Claim: Offshore Wind Turbines for 'Taming Hurricanes'

From the University of Delaware a press release I just can’t stop laughing about. Of course, they have no real-world tests of this claim, only “their sophisticated climate-weather model”. No numbers were given on turbine “mortality”, so one wonders how many would survive.

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Normally invisible, wind wind wakes take shape in the turbulence induced clouds behind the Horns Rev offshore wind farm west of Denmark. Image: NOAA

Offshore wind turbines could weaken hurricanes, reduce storm surge

Wind turbines placed in the ocean to generate electricity may have another major benefit: weakening hurricanes before the storms make landfall.

New research by the University of Delaware and Stanford University shows that an army of offshore wind turbines could reduce hurricanes’ wind speeds, wave heights and flood-causing storm surge.

The findings, published online this week in Nature Climate Change, demonstrate for the first time that wind turbines can buffer damage to coastal cities during hurricanes.

“The little turbines can fight back the beast,” said study co-author Cristina Archer, associate professor in the University of Delaware’s College of Earth, Ocean, and Environment. 

Archer and Stanford’s Mark Jacobson previously calculated the global potential for wind power, taking into account that as turbines are generating electricity, they are also siphoning off some energy from the atmosphere. They found that there is more than enough wind to support worldwide energy demands with a negligible effect on the overall climate.

In the new study, the researchers took a closer look at how the turbines’ wind extraction might affect hurricanes. Unlike normal weather patterns that make up global climate over the long term, hurricanes are unusual, isolated events that behave very differently. Thus, the authors hypothesized that a hurricane might be more affected by wind turbines than are normal winds.

“Hurricanes are a different animal,” Archer said.

Using their sophisticated climate-weather model, the researchers simulated hurricanes Katrina, Isaac and Sandy to examine what would happen if large wind farms, with tens of thousands of turbines, had been in the storms’ paths.

They found that, as the hurricane approached, the wind farm would remove energy from the storm’s edge and slow down the fast-moving winds. The lower wind speeds at the hurricane’s perimeter would gradually trickle inwards toward the eye of the storm. “There is a feedback into the hurricane that is really fascinating to examine,” said Archer, an expert in both meteorology and engineering.

The highest reductions in wind speed were by up to 87 mph for Hurricane Sandy and 92 mph for Hurricane Katrina.

According to the computer model, the reduced winds would in turn lower the height of ocean waves, reducing the winds that push water toward the coast as storm surge. The wind farm decreased storm surge — a key cause of hurricane flooding — by up to 34 percent for Hurricane Sandy and 79 percent for Hurricane Katrina.

While the wind farms would not completely dissipate a hurricane, the milder winds would also prevent the turbines from being damaged. Turbines are designed to keep spinning up to a certain wind speed, above which the blades lock and feather into a protective position. The study showed that wind farms would slow wind speeds so that they would not reach that threshold.

The study suggests that offshore wind farms would serve two important purposes: prevent significant damage to cities during hurricanes and produce clean energy year-round in normal conditions as well as hurricane-like conditions. This makes offshore wind farms an alterative protective measure to seawalls, which only serve one purpose and do not generate energy.

Jacobson and study co-author Willett Kempton, professor in UD’s College of Earth, Ocean and Environment, weighed the costs and benefits of offshore wind farms as storm protection.

The net cost of offshore wind farms was found to be less than the net cost of generating electricity with fossil fuels. The calculations take into account savings from avoiding costs related to health issues, climate change and hurricane damage, and assume a mature offshore wind industry. In initial costs, it would be less expensive to build seawalls, but those would not reduce wind damage, would not produce electricity and would not avoid those other costs — thus the net cost of offshore wind would be less.

The study used very large wind farms, with tens of thousands of turbines, much larger than commercial wind farms today. However, sensitivity tests suggested benefits even for smaller numbers of turbines.

“This is a paradigm shift,” Kempton said. “We always think about hurricanes and wind turbines as incompatible. But we find that in large arrays, wind turbines have some ability to protect both themselves and coastal communities, from the strongest winds.”

“This is a totally different way to think about the interaction of the atmosphere and wind turbines,” Archer said. “We could actually take advantage of these interactions to protect coastal communities.”

The paper, titled “Taming Hurricanes with Arrays of Offshore Wind Turbines,” appears online on Feb. 26 in Nature Climate Change and will be published in print in March.

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techgm
February 27, 2014 8:31 am

NoAstronomer
February 27, 2014 8:41 am

“The net cost of offshore wind farms was found to be ….” “The calculations take into account savings… and assume a ….”
Ah yes, financial estimate and assumptions – love ’em.
One part of my job is to provide a cost justification for the software projects I work on. Quite why I have to do it as a software developer and not the business area, who are in fact paying the bills, I don’t know but there it is. Fortunately, using fairly trivial ‘assumptions’ on revenue growth (2-3%) and cost savings (1-2%), I’ve found it quite easy to justify just about any project the department could conceivably accommodate.
Of course the best thing about financial estimates is that even when a winged pig does a barrel roll through a frozen hell and you do get called out for being wrong then you can always say that they were just estimates.
Mike.

Crispin in Waterloo
February 27, 2014 8:44 am

Well, if they are willing to build a wind farm with tens of thousands of mills having giant blades, a great deal more effect could be provided by feeding nuclear-generated electricity into the generators and pushing the winds back. Imaging the combined force of tens of thousands of windmills opposing the incoming hurricane! It could (according to my mental model) drive the hurricane out to sea where it would eventually wither away like a federal solar subsidy.
This idea of generating power is for the ‘good times’ when there is no hurricane. Around the hurricane there are substantial winds that could be harvested to generate power that could fed into the windmills doing the heavy work of keeping the storm at bay, especially out of the bay. All we need to do this is build tens of thousands more of them. Sea wall, schmee wall. Think of all the jobs for your children!

Fabi
February 27, 2014 8:46 am

This wind turbine scheme will work very well in reducing the impact of hurricanes. I’m 97% certain…

MAC
February 27, 2014 8:46 am

Just a minimal Category 1 hurricane type wind destroyed these three wind turbines.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083149/Wind-turbines-cope-UK-weather-3-blown-pieces.html
Last I remember we get Category 1, 2 3, 4 and even 5 hurricanes in these parts of the US.

Tim Clark
February 27, 2014 8:55 am

It’s all about elitetist ecoloonies and money. From their website:
” 3:30 p.m., Feb. 25, 2014–The University of Delaware will steer the way toward making offshore wind turbines a reality in the United States through a new initiative announced today at a major industry conference.
The Special Initiative on Offshore Wind, housed at the University’s College of Earth, Ocean, and Environment, will serve as an independent catalyst for offshore wind development and add momentum to a promising industry that is at a critical juncture. ”
Yeah, I’d say the juncture is critical, at best.

Tom J
February 27, 2014 9:01 am

If those wind turbines run for governor we can call them turbinators.
I know it’s a stupid joke. But, what the heck, it’s a stupid idea.

February 27, 2014 9:05 am

“The little turbines can fight back the beast”, said study co-author Cristina Archer.
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Sounds like a children’s story: the staunch windmills linked arms and bent into the wind. Valiantly they strove to hold back the evil carbon beast who huffed and puffed and blew his hurricanes against the brave little turbines.
Tune in tomorrow for the next exciting episode!

jorgekafkazar
February 27, 2014 9:08 am

Well, of course, the proposal is utterly barmy in the crumpet. Turbines are far too complex and fragile for this service, and, as has been pointed out above numerous times, don’t work in hurricanes. But the latter fact is irrelevant if, instead of installing windmills, we simply install large structures with even higher wind-resistance. The bases could be widened, providing more support, and long, static arms could be attached firmly higher up.
For aesthetic reasons, I’d suggest we make these structures statues. Can’t you see it now: a million statues of King Canute, arms raised against the fury of the storm? Oh, joy.
/guesswhat

February 27, 2014 9:17 am

onlyme at 5:06 am
From the study, array size is minimum 300 GW. The turbines specified are 7.58 MW. Simple division shows a minimum of 39578 turbines are needed in the path of a hurricane. The list price of one unit is $14 million plus install costs. (found on wiki)
$2 Million/MW (nameplate) is for onshore turbines.
Offshore, in 100 ft of water, rated to survive 150 mph winds, I don’t think you get under $5 Million/MW. $38 million per 7.6 MW turbine. A cool $1,600 Billion, $1.6 Trillion, for a 40,000 turbine wind farm.
Offshore wind farms worth some €8.5 billion ($11.4 billion) were under construction in European waters in 2011. Once completed, they will represent an additional installed capacity of 2844 MW.[28] (wikipedia)
That reference run at about $4 million / MW offshore Europe which doesn’t have to survive Cat 4 and 5 storms. It is only 1/100 the size of the proposed hurricane damping 300 GW farm.

February 27, 2014 9:28 am

Wouldn’t the construction of Wind Farms to “Tame Hurricanes” be classified as Geoengineering?
WUWT just had something on that subject on Feb. 25, 2014
GEOMAR researchers show limitations and side effects of large-scale climate intervention

lemiere jacques
February 27, 2014 9:34 am

so wind turbines cause climate change.

Tamara
February 27, 2014 9:35 am

John M says:
February 27, 2014 at 1:54 am
So, by this logic wind farms change the environment by reducing wind and wave heights. I wonder what negative environmental impact this has ?
Oh, it’s OK. Hurricanes are “unusual.” “Hurricanes are a different animal,”
The normal, acceptable, conformist weather will be left alone. It’s just these unusual, inconsiderate, inconvenient, non-conformist weather phenomena that we’re allowed to alter at will.

Jim G
February 27, 2014 9:36 am

jdseanjd says:
February 27, 2014 at 1:48 am
“Sometimes, Anthony, you just got to burst out laughing.
Not long ago, I ran across the story of a PPE (Politics, philosophy & economics) graduate from Oxford, no less, who thought the solution for our present economic woes was simply for the BOE (Bank of England) to print more money.
Our universities now are no more than factories of fear & fantasy.
JD. :)”
That is just exactly what the Federal Reserve is effectively doing in the USA to the tune of $75 billion per month or so. Must, therefore, be the right thing to do. No?
As far as this windfarm concept the men in the white jackets should be after these “researchers” with nets and straight jackets as they are certifiable.

February 27, 2014 9:49 am

OMG!…look at all the GHG emissions coming off those turbines.
[we assume you forgot the /sarc tag – mod]

Steve
February 27, 2014 9:51 am

Are you sure this wasn’t published in the Onion? I’m in tears I’m laughing so hard….

clarity2016
February 27, 2014 9:55 am

I was gonna leave a lengthy reply but the rest of you beat me to it. This is insanity. The cost would be simply astronomical to build and maintain these in the middle of the ocean. The estimates cited are a joke.

Steve
February 27, 2014 9:56 am

I am deeply saddened, and embarrassed to know, that in some way, shape, or form, I have paid for this study. Had I any input at all to the funding decision, I certainly would not have approved this preposterous research. This fad of modeling equals science needs to end soon. I need to watch a rerun of Steve Squires analysis of the rover science to remind me of what real science is….bring back the data gatherers, and throw out the guys with the pretty pictures.

Tim Obrien
February 27, 2014 10:02 am

Let me get this straight…. They want to disrupt a NATURAL process that may well be a necessary part of the ecosphere? With no idea of the consequences? These econuts are the real danger…

February 27, 2014 10:10 am

My study is far more convincing.
I say living in Britain that stringing tens of thousands of wind turbines south to north across the country to harness our dominant westerly’s would cause far more power consumption than less. The reason? Well by the time the wind hit the turbines and had its energy drained then the eastern side of the turbines would be always windless thus being unable to dry washing in theirs gardens would be forced to use tumble dryers and thus defeat the whole object of the enterprise

Roger
February 27, 2014 10:19 am

You have not only paid for the “study” but for the travelling dog-and-pony show that the authors engage in presenting this “ground breaking” research at conventions and climate change conferences around the world…
BTW the turbines:
“Simulations were run for each case: one with no wind turbines
and a second with 7.58-MW Enercon E-126 spaced one every
0.45 km2 within 100 km of the coast in specified areas.”
Do the math at $14 million list price time 100,000 = $1.4 trillion per installation….what a fantasy…sad, really

Bruce Cobb
February 27, 2014 10:19 am

OR, they could build walls 1,000 feet high to stop tornadoes
At a cost of only $62 billion per 100 miles.

Neo
February 27, 2014 10:23 am

I’m surprised that they didn’t determine that these wind turbines were slowing down the rotation of the Earth

Neo
February 27, 2014 10:32 am

Bob
February 27, 2014 10:40 am

And… The Denmark turbines are causing massive tornados, typhoons, and hurricanes in other parts of the world. Unintended consequences.