From the Washington Times, idiocy only bureaucrats could muster:
“Since man first rubbed a pair of sticks together to make a fire, we’ve gathered around a campfire to cook food, enjoy good company and bask in the warmth of the glowing embers. Now the green spoilsports in Southern California want to take that all way, sending beach ring fire pits the way of the caveman.The South Coast Air Quality Management District will decide this summer whether to order the removal of 850 bonfire pits from Los Angeles and Orange county beaches on the pretense that fire is bad for the environment. To support its position, the agency concocted a study concluding that an evening beach fire creates as much particulate matter pollution as a diesel truck driving 564 miles
Man’s taming of fire enabled him to cook his food, bring light to the darkness, make stronger tools and survive the harshest of winters. It’s the one discovery upon which all civilizations are built. The assault on bonfires, fireplaces and stoves undermines one of the cornerstones of society. It’s what happens when government gets big enough to snuff out man’s greatest achievement.”
EDITORIAL: California to ban fire – Washington Times
OMG, as much as one diesel truck driving 564 miles.
Lessee, its about 700 miles from the California-Oregon border on Interstate 5 to the beach in Orange County.
Why not simply turn back one Orange County bound diesel truck a day at the California border agricultural inspection station to achieve that goal?
Oh, wait, that would be stupid.
More here: http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_23274978/wood-fire-pits-could-pose-health-problems-beach
Thanks, OssQss. [%/]
Oh, and, thanks for sharing that revolting video (you are definitely a guy, aren’t you!). [:)] Well, if you can put up with my sentimentality, I can put up with your gross-factor stuff. Vive la difference.
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Hey, John Hultquist — how are your blueberry bushes doing? Another couple of months until berry season! Yum. Hope your crop is all you wished it to be.
Oh, brother! Well, Anna, as you can see, my English is not always that great. Grrr. Correction: (I’m skipping the grammar error in an earlier sentence) even people with wood heat as their primary heating source cannot have outdoor burn piles during a burn ban.
“Perhaps we need to start culling bureaucrats, their numbers seem to be getting out of control.”
Roast of bureaucrat prepared on an open fire on the beach sounds like what we need.
John F. – perhaps my comment about the movie industry was a bit condensed. My point was that while the staged entertainment industry was overwhelmingly concentrated in the east – principally in New York – LA offered cheap, unregulated land, minimal intervention by way of censorship, lots of free location sites nearby, no unions and plenty of sunshine for daytime shoots.
The only one of those comparative advantages that is left is the sunshine.
I vow that for the next year i won’t use a bonfire pit. That means I should be able to offset 205,860 truck miles in green credits. I further guarantee not to drive a truck 564 mile per day for the next year. That doubles my green credit. I’m feeling good, I’m feeling green so I can now turn up my central heating 1 deg without feeling any guilt because it’s still fracking freezing here in the UK as flaming June approaches.
To Zeke H.
Congrats on your engagement. Coming soon, the longest sentence in the English
language – “I DO”. lol
OK, this is totally off topic.. but sort of relevant to the climate stuff….
A daddy polar bear and a baby polar bear were walking across the ice and the baby polar bear said to the daddy polar bear, ”Dad am i a polar bear?,
”yes” said the daddy polar bear, “you are”.
After a while the baby polar bear asked again, “Dad am I really a polar bear?”
and the daddy polar bear said, “yes you really are a polar bear,why do you ask?”
and the baby polar bear said………..
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“because i’m b***dy freeezing.”
Sorry, but the thought of adding charcoal from fires to pristine white or yellow sands, does not appeal to me. ! 🙁
“Coming soon, the longest sentence in the English language ”
But fortunately, there are ways of putting a full stop on the end !!!
I remeber at Stockton beach, the guys have a pit dug near the surf house, (quite a few Islanders over there)
Long cooked meat in a buried pit.. YUMMY for the tummy ! 🙂
A truck traveling that far will emit six ounces of particulate matter according to government studies. 6 oz. spread over 500 plus miles! Campfires are safe!
Zeke,
Remember, ‘marriage’ is not just a word. It is also a sentence.☺
564 diesel truck miles? I’m confused. How many Hiroshima bombs does that amount to??
I learned from these bureaucrats that one need not be a “rocket scientist” to be a freedom killing, control mongering despot.
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Past time to leave Anthony. You would be welcome in Idaho. We need more sensible people to balance the nuts and flakes who have moved in already.
Hey, if fatcat rock stars on Silly Silly Island (aka Salt Spring Island) can rail against dioxins from the pulp mill at Crofton BC, California can ban campfires that spew dioxin from burning salt-laden wood.
/sarc
“Why not simply turn back one Orange County bound diesel truck a day at the California border agricultural inspection station to achieve that goal?”
Those California DOT DUDES at the port of entry already shut extra trucks down for 10 hours and fine them $600+ for any log book violation. The CHP raised the fines (taxations) for everything in 2011 because Cali is broke and they need the revenue. Watt-n-‘ell is the matter with you? Don’t give them any encouragement or ideers!!!
“Oh, wait, that would be stupid.”
As referred to, say, going through the immense trouble of finding a job in a different state, packing up, moving, finding a new location, and all the hassle and expense that goes along with it — and all because they don’t allow beach fires so it’s “Time to leave”, according to Mr. Watts.
Yeah, that makes sense.
REPLY: walk a mile in my shoes as an overregulated, overtaxed business and homeowner, and then you can judge what is best for me and for my business. -Anthony
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Perhaps the green dream-o-crats in California were “inspired” by the recent exhortations of activist-diplomat-activist, John Ashton, to the U.K. Met Office – a “jewel in the crown, of British science and global science” – in which he had thundered:
Dear Ms. Ostrov, you do such fine research!
Well, that particular “jewel in the crown” Elizabeth R would, no doubt, prefer to replace as it is rather DULL.
I thought British schoolboys at such schools as a JITC would attend were fairly familiar with Greek mythology. Apparently not. Humans did not steal fire from heaven, Prometheus “went up to heaven and lighted his torch at the chariot of the sun and brought down fire to man.” [Bulfinch’s Age of Fable or Beauties of Mythology, p. 20 in 1898 David McKay edition]
“With the gift of fire came man’s dominion over the earth. … fire enabled man to forge weapons … warm[] his dwelling, and thus become an inhabitant of every clime … introduced the arts, coined money, and brought about the possibilities of trade.” [Ibid. at 21]
Hm. Seems to be a parallel in there somewhere… . #[:)]
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A quote to encourage you, Hilary Ostrov, and ALL THE WUWT scholars (you ARE WINNING!):
“Therefore, great heart[s], bear up! You are but type
Of what all lofty spirits endure, that fain
Would win men back to strength and peace through love [of truth].”
[Lowell’s “Prometheus”]
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Janice Moore says:
May 24, 2013 at 9:49 pm
Thanks, OssQss. [%/]
Oh, and, thanks for sharing that revolting video (you are definitely a guy, aren’t you!). [:)] Well, if you can put up with my sentimentality, I can put up with your gross-factor stuff. Vive la difference.
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Your quite welcome.
Sorry, but this post provided a path for the “Land of the Lost” association with respect to California and those who suck the life out of,,,,,, well, life ……
After all, it is such there and in the end and we are not the Borg yet 🙂
Be well !
Rather than move can’t we all pitch in to create a new place for these ‘enlightened’ people (so enlightened they will catch fire). Then pay them to move there and leave the ‘ordinary folks alone. I mean those of us blessed with common sense!!!