Here's a chance for Michael Mann to get his own Nobel Prize medal


After being told by the IPCC in no uncertain terms that he can’t make claims like “Nobel Prize Winner”, now with enough cash, he could at least make the claim of Nobel Prize owner.

It seems that one is for sale. From IO9:

How much would you pay for a Nobel Prize medal?

Francis Crick, the guy who co-discovered the molecular structure of DNA back in 1953, died nine years ago. Along with James Watson, he won a Nobel Prize for the groundbreaking scientific discovery — but his family now wants to get rid of it. According to Heritage Auctions, bidding for the gold medal and diploma will start at, ahem, $250,000.

Nobody has tried to sell a Nobel medal in 70 years, so the final price will establish a new and interesting precedent as far as these things go.

Full story here:

ABC News reports on the motivations behind the sale.

Of course after the ribbing he must have taken after this full page ad appeared in the PSU student newspaper, he may no longer be interested.

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February 26, 2013 10:44 am

Well, I guess he can afford it with all his big oil money and all.

Big D in TX
February 26, 2013 10:47 am

Hmm. I’m kind of surprised one hasn’t been sold before, considering the amount of olympic gold medals, superbowl and other sports championship rings, etc. that float around.
It’s the title, the honor and respect, and not the physical medal, that dignifies a person.

Rob Dawg
February 26, 2013 10:49 am

Imagine crowd sourcing a couple bucks each to establish a foundation that uses the funds raised to buy the Nobel and then enshrine it in honor of all Mann kind.

February 26, 2013 11:14 am

Mann hasn’t the merit, but he’s likely got the money for a Nobel Prize. Of course, that would likely diminish the value of all other medals, but that’s the consequence of dealing with a “climate scientist” of his caliber.

Rhoda R
February 26, 2013 11:15 am

“…and then enshrine it in honor of all Mann kind.” Possibly the Peace Prize (it’s been pretty much debased anyway) but NOT any of the scientific prizes.

February 26, 2013 11:25 am

If he isn’t the high bidder, he’ll just have to be content being the proud owner – of a fasimile – of a certificate – of an award – made to a committee.

February 26, 2013 11:27 am

Yep. One of those prizes and a buck will buy you a cup of coffee at McDonald’s these days.

February 26, 2013 11:27 am

Still a bit dicey. Mann could purchase the medal and diploma. However the Nobel Prize comes with a hefty sum of cash (about $1.2 million). He wouldn’t be getting that, he’d be paying out. But in Mannian Statistics(TM) where up and down don’t make a difference, I guess it all would work out.

February 26, 2013 11:27 am

M. Mann (the AMO man) may be Nobel prize’winner’, but my Geo-Solar geomagnetic based AMO reconstruction appear to have higher correlation, despite protestations from some other quarters

February 26, 2013 11:32 am

Being allowed to own a Nobel Prize should have require an Ethics clause.
Wait- that would leave out quite a few of those who actually got one, let alone mann.

February 26, 2013 11:36 am

Nobel prizes aren’t what they used to be, before Obama got his:
Free prize1
Free prize2
Free prize3

February 26, 2013 11:37 am

Hi Michael
I could forward this personalised copy by email,
no payment required, no gold medal though.

February 26, 2013 11:40 am

But if Mann buys it, won’t he have to change his name to Crick?

February 26, 2013 11:49 am

Avoid “Big Oil” because it is evil, but “Big Dynamite” is to die for. That seems to be another consensus view of climate change scientists.

Luther Wu
February 26, 2013 11:51 am

February 26, 2013 12:01 pm

Mann’s a leftist.
A Berkeley grad and activist that can be seen hobnobbing with leftist Democrats all the time in his promotion of climate change. The hockey stick was a fabrication, consistent with the needs of a leftist ideology that wants to tone down the human footprint (in other words: de-industrialize).
“A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States… [we] must design a stable, low-consumption economy in which there is a much more equitable distribution of wealth.” -John Holdren, Obama’s Science Czar
“We’ve got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing …” -leftist Senator Tim Wirth, 1993
“I gave up on Judith Curry a while ago. I don’t know what she think’s she’s doing, but its not helping the cause.” -Michael Mann, Climategate Email
“We have to offer up [fabricated] scary scenarios… each of us has to decide the right balance between being effective [lying] and being honest [ineffective].” -Stephen Schneider, lead ipcc author, 1989
“It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” -Paul Watson, Greenpeace
“The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” -Daniel Botkin, ex Chair of Enironmental Studies, UCSB

Brian R
February 26, 2013 12:04 pm

How about we take up donations to purchase this for him. Of course if we were successful we would present it so someone else, maybe Anthony, to hold for Mr. Mann.

February 26, 2013 12:14 pm

Perhaps Josh could draw Mann a special medal to go with his calendar?

February 26, 2013 12:14 pm

Oh this is capital indeed!!!!
I am far out of my league here, to be fair. I am a scientist, though not a climate scientist. Still, those with which I am acquainted do find Mr. Mann’s Maniacal Machinations quite … um… mirthful.

Tom J
February 26, 2013 12:15 pm

See, this is exactly why the congress should’ve negotiated with Obama and given him additional tax increases (after all, it’s not our money anyway) so the US could avoid the upcoming sequester. Now, where will that public servant (ok, it’s just a term, it doesn’t really mean anything) in Washington find the money to purchase a Nobel Prize (under the auspices of research funding) for our Dr. Michael Mann. Sure, Mikey will not have actually ‘won’ it, but this is not the world of reality. The world of reality is a fantasy. The world of fantasy is the world of reality. And with a surreal Nobel Prize under Mikey’s generously proportioned belt the Obama administration could at least only semi-falsely claim (you know: the old argument; is the cup half true, or the cup half false?) that they spent taxpayer money only semi-wastefully on semi-useful research into fantasy (the new reality) global climate… warming… change… whatever, and with the authority of that illusionary, yet real, Nobel Prize winning research proceed to enact destructive climate mitigating policies that actually will destroy our pay checks, crash the economy, and so on. Now, Michael Mann won’t get a virtual Nobel Prize, Obama can’t claim to be virtual savior of the planet and will, instead, have to destroy our pay checks, crash the economy, and so on, with illusionary budget cuts in a sequester. Not quite so high falutin’ noble (sorry about the pun) a means to acquire his transformative (a surreal word if there ever was one – and nasty too) change. Life’s tough for Michael Mann and Barack Obama.
BTW: Does someone make a golf club that looks like a hockey stick?

February 26, 2013 12:17 pm

Why spend all that money when you can just do cocktails with the biased Nobel committee members for a new one. A few side gifts from WWF and others might need to be leveraged also, but that is a technicality.

February 26, 2013 12:17 pm

A quarter of a million dollars?
So, if I sell my share of the EU’s Peace Prize (about one five-hundred-milionth part) – unless I’ve missed a zero or two [Mann and Auto both have ‘a’s, so it may be possible] – then I will raise one two-thousandth of a greenback – one twentieth part of a cent.
Hey Michael – yours for fifty bucks, cash!
Then you [like my cats] will be a partial recipient – no mere contributor with photocopied A4 certificate – to a Nobel Peace Prize.
OK – Sarc off. [I hope you didn’t think the above comments were too serious . . . . ]
I think it a pity that Crick’s family are, seemingly, having to sell.
I’ll not ride my hobby-horse about the state of the West [and the UK certainly not excepted!].

February 26, 2013 12:32 pm

I think we could avoid a lot if expense if we just fabricate the Nobel medal on a 3d printer, give it to Mike and tell him it’s a real Nobel Prize. Remember, his standard if evidence is really, really low for things he wants to believe.

Mike Bromley the Canucklehead in Cowburg
February 26, 2013 12:43 pm

Dignifies? Apparently not!

February 26, 2013 12:47 pm

As a U.S. taxpayer, I also contributed to the award given the IPCC:
Where’s my plaque, er, plack, er, whatever that was a picture of?

Jim Ryan
February 26, 2013 12:52 pm

I have correctly predicted that Michael Mann will bring peace to the earth by raising the alarm about global warming, which he has correctly predicted will continue due to manmade greenhouse gases.

February 26, 2013 12:52 pm

I wonder how much Crick would have paid for Manns certificate

February 26, 2013 1:40 pm

250 grand? Spend a fraction of that on Cracker Jacks, and he’s bound to get four five Nobel Peace Prizes.

Peter Miller
February 26, 2013 1:50 pm

We should not forget there are two types of Nobel prize, the one for real scientific achievement and the other one for ‘peace’, traditionally awarded to all sorts of dubious individuals.
I think we should wait until someone wants to put up a Nobel Peace Prize for sale before we organise a whip round on behalf of Michael. The one on offer is for real scientific achievement and there is little doubt Michael would never be so brash as to claim he ever had anything to do with anything like that.
Winning the Nobel Peace Prize is kind of like winning today’s Iranian prize for human rights, or the old Soviet Union’s peace prize – it has become so demeaned as to have absolutely no value whatsoever. Doubtless his Goreness would disagree, but that just goes to prove my point.

February 26, 2013 1:54 pm

The high shticker buys the Nobel Prize, not to mention a genuine one awarded to a real scientist for real science. Fully documented science that is a true boon to civilization.
I sure hope not!? After all, what would happen to the prize if he buys it? Most likely it would get rubbed in the face of everyone Manniacal could get to stand long enough or even tweet him.
Then, then; the poor award would get taped to the glass window of his cell.
Say it isn’t so…!?

February 26, 2013 2:18 pm

Too bad Crick’s last name wasn’t Cricket. It would be perfect.

george e. smith
February 26, 2013 2:43 pm

Well it is a bit too late to give it to the lady scientist who actually did the X-ray crystallography, that led to the discovery of the DNA structure. She unfortunately died too soon to be recognised for her part in unravelling DNA.
Well if I had that medal, I would melt it down for the gold content. There’s a lot of medals running around with asterisks after them.

February 26, 2013 2:54 pm

George, thanks for that tip. Would you believe that I’d never heard of Rosalind Franklin until you prompted me to look that up? I honestly do not recall her being mentioned in any of my texts books in college or high school.
(And there’s a reason I keep coming back to WUWT… and reading the comments.)

Amr Marzouk
February 26, 2013 3:49 pm

He can buy it when he wins his case against Mark Steyn!!

February 26, 2013 3:56 pm

Maybe Al Gore will buy it for him with all that Arab oil money. The only problem is Al Gore won’t want get that close to something associated with real science.

February 26, 2013 4:30 pm

>>We should not forget there are two types of Nobel prize, the one for real scientific achievement and the other one for ‘peace’, traditionally awarded to all sorts of dubious individuals.<<
Sorry. If they are going to put the name "Nobel" on the price, and lend it their prestige, then I am unwilling to make any distinction between the "peace" prize and any other. Whether you are a scientist or not, whether you have done something momentous or not, you should turn down the prize as a matter of principle, IMHO. If enough people turn it down, they'll get the message.

Big D in TX
February 26, 2013 4:41 pm

After some thought, I really hope a reputable museum ponies up the cash for this, and displays it alongside some of the work that merited the award. Perhaps it could find a place in or near this:

February 26, 2013 5:11 pm

I’m willing to chip in and buy this medal for Mann, providing he promises to quit climate porn. The man is going to go blind otherwise.

lurker passing through, laughing
February 26, 2013 5:13 pm

I think skeptics should buy it and gift it to Dr. Mann. ;^)

Tom O
February 26, 2013 5:15 pm

Actually it is SO much cheaper just to go ahead and buy a copy of PrintMaster or a program like that, design and print your OWN award – maybe call it the Noball Prize, as an example, and just have some notary emboss it with their stamp and not point out the difference to people when you “say this is my Nobel certificate.”

John Trigge (in Oz)
February 26, 2013 5:46 pm

If M. Mann were to buy this then he would be correct in stating “I have a Nobel Medal”. Not the same as having been awarded the Nobel Prize but obfuscation is the order of the day with many in this area.

February 26, 2013 6:02 pm

Tom J says:
February 26, 2013 at 12:15 pm

BTW: Does someone make a golf club that looks like a hockey stick?

Happy Gilmore?

Ron McDonald
February 26, 2013 6:25 pm

If Mann was smarter, but no less shifty, he would emulate economists and use some of his grant money to endow a “Prize in Climate Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel”, then just wait a few years for the lazy media and populace to refer to it incorrectly as a true Nobel prize.

February 26, 2013 6:59 pm

I’m still amused by the fact that they won the Nobel Peace Prize and not the one in physics or any other actual science.

February 26, 2013 9:35 pm

Hey … the IPCC is part of the U.N.. I belong to a member nation of the U.N., so I should have an equal claim on that prize. So should you.
Let’s have everyone claim to be a Nobel Peace Prize winner. We can make the asterix small enough that most people won’t see it.

February 26, 2013 11:09 pm

There seems to be some confusion about the Nobel prize that Michael Mann won.
It was the Nobel Piece Prize.

February 26, 2013 11:51 pm

Reminds me of;
“Tom Lehrer: I’ve said that political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Prize.”

February 27, 2013 4:33 am

If I buy it, does that mean I can say “I have a Nobel Prize”.

February 27, 2013 7:13 am

“I’m still amused by the fact that they won the Nobel Peace Prize and not the one in physics”
Yes, and remember that the Peace Prize is chosen by the parliament in Oslo Norway, not the Nobel Committee in Sweden. The questionable choices for the peace prize including Obama and Arafat, have come about more from political considerations rather than any evidence that the recipients have enhanced world peace.

February 27, 2013 9:16 am

On the other hand, should Mann get a Piltdown Man award for lifetime achievement in time series prestidigitation?

February 27, 2013 10:39 am
A bit of work using photoshop and we can all have a nobel certifiate.
Just insert name

Pamela Gray
February 27, 2013 8:12 pm

Maybe they ought to think about giving it to the relatives of Rosalind Franklin. Let justice be done at last I say.

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