That headline is from this article in The Atlantic. Below is from Globalwarming.org
What EPA Transparency Looks Like in Most Open, Honest Administration Ever
This time, we got actual emails … that revealed a lot … about the fine art of redaction. Remember, this is the production of the most powerful regulatory agency of the most transparent administration in history. “We have nothing to hide,” the EPA has told us. Sure doesn’t seem that way to us:
BTW, note the date.
The date of 8/15/2009 is pre-climategate. I had thought that this need by the EPA administrator Lisa Jackson’s secondhand email account was a response to the leaked emails Climategate and the FOIA attempts.
Apparently they just planned this deception from the get-go.
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This is real Hitchhikker’s Guide to the Galaxy stuff i.e. if you read them in a sealed room with no windows and no lights at the bottom of a broken set of stairs on the other side of a door marked “beware of the tiger” these e-mails are completely transparent.
Congress (The House of Representatives) must take all deliberate speed to defund this reckless and out of control agency. An agency like this cannot survive without finding. Defund the EPA now!
Sure would like to get a ‘cite’ on that one, brad!
(I must have missed the special by Pat Maddow with his show on MSNBC on this one …)
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Lawrence Todd says:
February 22, 2013 at 3:22 pm
“oops before the bar — however appropriate barf is to the EPA”
Gotta be one of the best digital Freudian slips so far this year 🙂
The crooked Obama administration is mocking the public with their lies about transparency. They all belong behind bars.
The American press demands that Republicans be transparent but don’t seem to care at all when Democrats aren’t (unless it has to do with Obama secretly playing golf with Tiger Woods). Hansen had a hissy fit about being muzzled by the Bush administration even though it turns out he gave hundreds of interviews and outside speeches during the Bush years. Mike Fayette, an engineer at the New York State Transportation Department, gives one interview without prior permission and he is forced to retire under threat of being fired. Apparently, free speech only applies to certain special government employees like Hansen.
The funny thing is, when a news article was published about what happened to Mr. Fayette, the Cuomo administration took to the airwaves and read aloud Mr. Fayette’s disciplinary history. They described him as a troubled employee who had previously been penalized for having an improper relationship with a subordinate, misusing his work e-mail to send sexually explicit messages and using his state-assigned vehicle for personal errands. So they not only punished Mr. Fayette for exercising his free speech rights, they violated his right to privacy. Can you imagine what would have happened if George Bush or any other Republican had done the exact same thing to a government worker?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/22/nyregion/top-aide-to-cuomo-rebukes-state-worker-who-talked-to-the-press.html?_r=0
They shouldn’t be allowed to redact “private” emails
For some, ‘transparent’ means ‘invisible’. And for one in particular, his records have even been sealed from view.
These people work for us.
We do not need to get on bended knee to request full disclosure of the “secret” EPA documents. The issue is specifically what is the EPA trying to hide?
If there is nothing to hide there were be do no need to black out documents. The EPA is blacking out documents.
The EPA is not the CIA.
What is the EPA hiding?
Stay thirsty my friends. We have made some progress.
(1) EPA has owned up to the fact that Richard Windsor = Lisa Jackson — a fact that they were trying to deny just a few short weeks ago.
(2) It now appears that the entire executive leadership team at EPA not only knew about the unlawful email account, but actively participated in the scheme. For the first time in US History, the entire leadership team of a Federal Agency is going to get wiped out by a scandal.
As to the exemptions — they only apply to lawful communication. Because this would appear to be unlawful communication, I think EPA is going to have a very hard time claiming exemptions.
And finally, will need to be a confirmation hearing for the new EPA administrator. This will give congress the opening to probe every aspect of the scandal. I suspect that the Administration with avoid nominating a new EPA administrator to avoid this.
_Jim says:
February 22, 2013 at 3:49 pm
>brad says February 22, 2013 at 2:45 pm
>This is another broad problem in gov, on both sides of the >aisle. Bush used private email accounts broadly which are less >secure and easily deleted. …
Sure would like to get a ‘cite’ on that one, brad!”
From the Congressional committee report:
“White House officials made extensive use of their RNC e-mail accounts.
The RNC has preserved 140,216 e-mails sent or received by Karl Rove. Over half of these e-mails (75,374) were sent to or received from individuals using official “.gov” e-mail accounts. Other heavy users of RNC e-mail accounts include former White House Director of Political Affairs Sara Taylor (66,018 e-mails) and Deputy Director of Political Affairs Scott Jennings (35,198 e-mails).
There has been extensive destruction of the e-mails of White House officials by the RNC.
Of the 88 White House officials who received RNC e-mail accounts, the RNC has preserved no e-mails for 51 officials. In a deposition, Susan Ralston, Mr. Rove’s former executive assistant, testified that many of the White House officials for whom the RNC has no e-mail records were regular users of their RNC e-mail accounts.
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Nick Stokes,
May I translate your comment? Thank you:
Look over there! A squirrel!
See, this is about a current FOI request, not the Bush boogeyman.
Someone asked for a citation. Nick provided one, without further comment. I think in the circumstances that is hardly worthy of scorn.
There are, after all, rather a lot of visitors to this site who are so anti-Democrat that they fall into the trap of believing the Republicans would do things differently. History says otherwise.
“Most Open, Honest Administration Ever”
HAHAHA that is funny!
“Most Morally Bankrupt Administration Ever” is more like it
Charlie A,
What is it about this that is so hard to understand? Universal alarmist predictions were regularly made saying that global warming was increasing. But every prediction turned out to be flat wrong. Every last one of them.
So answer this question, if you can: what would it take, exactly, to falsify the AGW conjecture? Provide specific numbers, please. At what point would you finally admit that your AGW belief is wrong?
DBS,
“See, this is about a current FOI request, not the Bush boogeyman.”
Well, the headline says it’s about presidential standards of transparency.
But a cite was requested – I provided.
Go after the e-mail recipients with a FOI request.
Nick, MooLoo(?): You can’t see the difference?. When executive branch people use private e-mails to discuss personal or policy subjects, it is far, far different for regulatory agencies to do so when it involves regulating – i.e. controlling us through the force of law. Think about it.
There a difference of intent between karl.rove@whitehouse.gov | karl.rove@rnc.com and lisa.jackson@epa.gov | richard.windsor@epa.gov
eck says: February 22, 2013 at 7:18 pm
“Nick, MooLoo(?): You can’t see the difference?. When executive branch people use private e-mails to discuss personal or policy subjects, it is far, far different for regulatory agencies to do so when it involves regulating – i.e. controlling us through the force of law. Think about it.”
Well, the controversy cited was about the dismissal of US Attorneys. The email trail got lost in the RNC. That sounds pretty much related to controlling through force of law.
The first Christmas this administration was in the White House, there was a decorative ball on one of the trees with Mao Zedong’s image on it.
Do we really need to ask any further questions?
Most of the people in this administration are academics and socialists.
Socialists always appeal to the lower classes as long as it serves their need.
Nuff said.
Has anyone tried copying the redacted text to a different document file?
If they havn’t done it properly, this can reveal the redacted text.
This happenned in NZ recently revealing sensitive information.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8331505/Police-blunder-unmasks-secret-files
“Read my lips: I did not have an alternative private secret email address!”,
Richard Winds … err… Lisa Jackson.
As I recall, a touchstone is used to check the quality/purity of precious metals. Drawing the metal across the stone leaves a trace line, the color of which tells you how pure the metal is.
Richard “Dick” Windsor’s lines are wall to wall black.
I guess if we want the unredacted version, we’ll have to ask the Chinese Army hackers. They seem to have better access to govt computers than we taxpayers do.
The Purchased Product Congress Critters and Purchased Presidents of the USA serve only one master.