Life After Energy: What if fossil fuels disappeared tomorrow?

There is an anti-human TV program on the History Channel called Life After People, which portrays the aftermath of the imaginary scenario where all people on Earth suddenly vanished in a rapture-like event tomorrow.

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I’ve often seen it flipping channels, and it has always been my impression that it represents the ultimate utopian vision of radical environmentalists, who see people as a scourge on the planet, sort of a Fear and self loathing in Las Vegas applied to Gaia.

I get word from Dr. David Deming, Geologist at the University of Oklahoma, of an essay he has composed asking about what would happen to people if fossil fuel based energy disappeared tomorrow. Deming asks this simple question: What would happen if we gave the environmentalists what they want?

It is an eye opener for those that really don’t think much about where the energy they use daily comes from. I’ve excerpted parts of it below, and I have a few observations of my own that follow. 

What If Atlas Shrugged?

by David Deming

Atlas Shrugged is the title of Ayn Rand’s 1957 novel in which the world grinds to a halt after the productive segment of society goes on strike. Tired of being demonized and exploited, the world’s innovators and entrepreneurs simply walk away.

What would happen to the US today if the fossil fuel industry went on a strike of indefinite duration? What would happen if we gave the environmentalists what they want?

Within 24 hours there would be long lines at service stations as people sought to purchase remaining stocks of gasoline. The same people who denounce oil companies would be desperately scrounging the last drops of available fuel for their SUVs. By the third day, all the gasoline would be gone.

With no diesel fuel, the trucking industry would grind to a halt. Almost all retail goods in the US are delivered by trucks. Grocery shelves would begin to empty. Food production at the most basic levels would also stop.

With no trains or trucks running there would be no way to deliver either raw materials or finished products. All industrial production and manufacturing would stop. Mass layoffs would ensue. At this point, it would hardly matter. With virtually all transportation systems out, the only people who could work would be those who owned horses or were capable of walking to their places of employment.

Owners of electric cars might smirk at first, but would soon be forced to the unpleasant reality that the vehicle they thought was “emission free” runs on coal. Forty-two percent of electric power in the US is produced by burning coal.

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With natural gas also out of the picture, we would lose another 25 percent. The environmentalist’s favorite power sources, wind and solar, could not fill the gap. Wind power currently generates about 3 percent of our electricity and solar power accounts for a scant 0.04 percent. The only reliable power sources left would be hydroelectric and nuclear. But together these two sources could only power the grid at 27 percent of its normal capacity. With two-thirds of the electric power gone, the grid would shut down entirely.

Read his full essay here. (note: this link does not imply endorsement of the website on which the essay resides – Anthony)

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Here are a few observations of my own about what would happen if fossil fuels disappeared tomorrow:

  • After elevated tanks of municipal water systems were depleted of drinking water in a few days, there would be no more water supply. This would force people to start looking for alternate sources, and we’d be back to a time when water treatment was unknown. Disease and death would follow for many as tainted water spreads disease. People with water wells would have to tear out electric pumps and install hand pumps or windmills to get water.
  • Related to the first point, toilets would be useless without water to flush them. Fecal matter disposal becomes an issue as gravity fed sewage systems eventually clog, and eventually fecal matter will end up in streams and rivers contributing to the spread of diseases much like the Great Stink in old London.
  • Garbage collection becomes a thing of the past. Garbage will be piled high in the streets.
  • People that have grid tied solar power systems would be no better off than their neighbors, because the DC to AC inverters require an AC power grid presence signal. Otherwise they shut off for safety. Some people with electrical skills might be able to rewire them, but then they’d only have electricity during daytime.
  • People who may have working solar energy might be targeted by the have-nots. They might wish they had paid attention to the Second Amendment to protect their home based energy source. People who still have gasoline in their cars trying to escape cities might find themselves victims of mob attacks as the have-nots look for the last remaining bits of energy. Mad-Max world ensues.
  • Windmill farms (that also need grid presence to operate) will stand as icons of folly, unusable, and cursed by the populace since they can’t make use of them. Eventually they’ll all look like these wind farms or fall down.
  • Radical climatologists like Mike Mann and James Hansen will no longer be able to communicate their apocalyptic visions of the future to us, since there will be no Internet or radio/TV networks or newspapers printed to disseminate their views.
  • Along the same lines, thankfully, we’d never see another episode of Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo.
  • Climate modelers like Kevin Trenberth would never be able to run another computer model telling us how hot our future apocalypse might be, since his NCAR computer is run by Wyoming coal. Likewise, NOAA’s Gaea supercomputer will be DOA since it can’t run on recycled vegetable oil.
  • Al Gore will no longer be able to jet around the world to tell us how the world will end soon if we don’t pay attention to his new book about The Future. He’ll be reduced to holing up in one of his many properties and hoping the Mad-Maxers don’t come for his solar panels.
  • Congress would be reduced to debating in hot, sweaty, non air-conditioned rooms, just like the founders of our country did at the first Continental Congress and as they did in the summer of 1988, when Dr. James Hansen and his sponsor, Senator Tim Wirth, turned off the A/C in the hearing room for effect while they sold the idea of global warming to the Senators.
  • Without air conditioning, city dwellers would truly experience the Urban Heat Island effect in the summer, that is when they weren’t scrounging for food and water, and fighting off the Mad-Maxer gangs who would take anything they could from them, including their life.
  • Wood burning to stay warm during the winter becomes all the rage again. Smoke pollution returns to cities, especially in winter.
  • Real climate refugees start streaming south from high latitude countries as people run out of fuel. Many towns in Alaska and Siberia that survive only because of regular supplies of heating oil and gasoline would be abandoned.
  • Global warming, environmentalism, politics;  all would be a thing of the past, since survival trumps everything.
  • Paul Ehrlich wanders the streets near Stanford, dressed in rags shouting at people “I was right! I was right!

I could go on and on, but you get the picture.

So which is the worse future, a slightly warmer one with fossil fuels or one without them?

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Bruckner8
February 7, 2013 1:36 pm

Wrong, the greens would merely say “Good deal, now we can focus on getting that renewable ratio up to 100%.”

u.k.(us)
February 7, 2013 1:38 pm

“(note: this link does not imply endorsement of the website on which the essay resides – Anthony)”
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It might be easier to put it in your blog policy, and be done with it.
(I know 🙂

February 7, 2013 1:43 pm

Some people I would label as secular Calvinists, the old God being supplanted by the new God Mother Nature, but the people are still the sinners. Different deity, same philosophical outlook.

Mark
February 7, 2013 1:53 pm

It’s a shame he had to add his vitriol and disdain for the pro climate change folks. Just simple facts of what we, as a collective nation, would expect would have sufficed. Instead he made it political which is a shame.

Jimbo
February 7, 2013 1:56 pm

What would happen if we gave the environmentalists what they want?

Many people on WUWT have pointed out that almost EVERYTHING we enjoy today is as a result of fossil fuels. Longer life, better healthcare, better food etc. You see it requires energy for example to stock supermarkets and run tractors on farms, cold storage etc, etc. The list is mind bogglingly endless. The eaier way to look at it is to find those things in life delivered to people by alternative energy (excluding hydro as enviros in the main are against that too).

Jimbo
February 7, 2013 1:57 pm

Typo
……The easier way to……

February 7, 2013 1:57 pm

majormike1 on February 7, 2013 at 12:54 pm
I can imagine it would be quite a nice adventure – no engine, no fuel, no electricity sailing. However, if it was a no food trip because the food you want to take with you couldn’t be produced (no power for canning) and you couldn’t get transportation for it to the dock, that could be a different matter. Canned foods need energy to produce. Water pumped and stored. Without fuel, I suppose you ate all cold meals. Or did you have a solar oven? Wood fires don’t go well with ship travel.

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majormike1,
I assume you are responding to my earlier comment about engineless, fuel-less and electricity-less transoceanic sailing, if so then thank you for your comment.
I think the death of most who are living today is certain on a very short timescale if there were a sudden loss of use of all fossil fuels.
My comments about what I would do in the no fossil fuel scenario and how I would do it are just that, not a desire to do it.
Certainly it is much more productive making a sailboat and provisioning it in a modern technological civilization fueled significantly with fossil fuels as compared with a medieval or Dark Ages type pre-industrial civilization.
However, the instantaneous loss of technological infrastructure does cause per se the loss of technical knowledge. So there reason to have some positive view of bootstrapping a new technical civilization fairly efficiently if the radical environmentalists who cause the destruction if the current technical civilization let you try to start another technical civilization . I assure you that they fight it no matter what the technology for the new civilization. I think the single fundamental premise of radical environmentalism is anti-technology per se, any technology.
John

MarkW
February 7, 2013 2:03 pm

Jon says:
February 7, 2013 at 12:55 pm
Tell that to the Taliban!

The Taliban hate religion?

EternalOptimist
February 7, 2013 2:06 pm

I am not a great fan of threads like this that indulge in all this counterfactual recursive fury, with the conspiracist ideation on Al Gore and cannibalism. et Al

MarkW
February 7, 2013 2:08 pm

Joel Upchurch says:
February 7, 2013 at 1:30 pm
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Peak oil nonsense has been well and thoroughly refuted. There was an excellent article on this subject on WattsUpWithThat just a week or so ago.
Oil discoveries in the last few years alone are sufficient to supply the world for over 100 years. That’s not including the massive new discoveries in natural gas. Then there are the new developments such as horizontal frakking for getting massive amounts of oil and natural gas out of fields once thought to be unproductive or already played out.
Even when all of that is gone, we have enough coal, which can be turned into both oil and nat gas to last for thousands of years beyond that.

MarkW
February 7, 2013 2:10 pm

BTW, energy used is already considered, it’s part of the “cost of extraction” equation.
New inventions allow us to lower the cost of extraction, including energy costs.

Jimbo
February 7, 2013 2:11 pm

You see Anthony, I, as well as many others around the world, have experienced a week with around 5 hours of daytime electricity. It’s not funny and very frustrating. And that’s just electricity! In the past, petrol stations would run out of gas for a week (countrywide) while we waited for the next delayed shipment. Not funny as you were largely grounded. This is why I get sooooooo angry when I hear these well fed, well fueled green eco-hypocrites telling us what’s good for us (the planet they mean). If you haven’t been through energy deprivation for prolonged periods, then you don’t know what you are missing. 🙁
Al Gore and Pachauri use their fair share of energy then some. But they want the world to use less, while they use more. Bullshit!

February 7, 2013 2:14 pm

Gail Combs on February 7, 2013 at 12:30 pm
Do you really think any of the bureaucrats would actually survive? [ . . . ]

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Gail Combs,
In a sudden fossil fuel loss Apocalypse scenario, the bureaucrats are going to initially still control enforcement parts of the various level of government including the military. In the chaos likely resulting from the scenario those controlling the guys with disciplined and organized use of guns are going to have the ultimate advantage in the staying alive game. At least in mid-length timescale but probably not in the long term.
John

MattS
February 7, 2013 2:28 pm

MarkW,
Throw in Nuclear energy and CO2 + H2O + energy + catalysts > any liquid hydrocarbon you can imagine and we can last almost indefinitely.

Gail Combs
February 7, 2013 2:29 pm

Bryan A says:
February 7, 2013 at 12:44 pm
…. It wouldn’t take much in the way of taxation to cause Fossil Fuels to become effectively unuseable.
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As I said it is already happening (see comment )
We are looking at closing 10% of our coal powered energy resources Graph and that is just those plants that have announced closures. In October 2011 it was 28.3 GW of generating capacity would close and by June 2012 it had increased to 34 gigawatts (GW) of capacity retiring because of the EPA’s Mercury and Air Toxics Rule. The EPA modeling predicted the regulations would only shut down 9.5 GW of electricity generation capacity. The reality is that over 35 GW of power generating capacity will likely close. graph of closures.
Those plants will be replaced with energy capacity costing eight times or more the current price. That means the price of energy for households will eventually go from ~$110/month to ~ $500/month as the rest of the coal power plants are retired, however blue collar wages are decreasing because of the competition from China and India. (this is a graph of the projected increase by the DOT and we already know the EPA just blew their estimate of plant closing by a whopping amount)

Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill
The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357 per megawatt…. These are not computer models or projections or estimates. These are the actual prices that electric distributors have agreed to pay for new capacity. The costs will be passed on to consumers at the retail level….

More info in my comment HERE

Don K
February 7, 2013 2:29 pm

DirkH says:
February 7, 2013 at 12:22 pm
Don K says:
February 7, 2013 at 11:40 am
“So how long does the human race have for a civilization based on burning fossil fuels? I make it a century. Maybe not too much more than that.
A little too pessimistic. More like 1,500 years.
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Y’know, when the Erie Canal opened and people started to move into the United States’ NorthWest Territory, logging came to Michigan. The loggers looked at the 30 million acres of hardwood forest and claimed they had trees to last a thousand years. They started to run out in ten. Like Yogi Berra said, “It’s tough to make predictions especially about the future”
You are, of course free to believe anything you wish. But I doubt those numbers have any relation to reality. On top of which you are assuming that the citizens of China, India, Paraguay, Somolia, et al are not going to use energy at more or less the per capita usage of Switzerland today. I don’t think they are going to behave as you expect. And that’s assuming that energy will be sufficiently expensive that they’ll be mildly discouraged from using more than 300,000 BTU per person per day. If fossil fuels are really as common as you believe, there will be two SUVs parked in front of every yurt, hut and shack on the planet — next to a heated swimming pool.
I’ll be surprised if fossil fuels don’t last a century, two wouldn’t surprise me, but I’d be prepared for them running out sooner.
A millenium? not very likely IMHO.

Bryan A
February 7, 2013 2:30 pm

It’s an Amish World, a world free of the trappings of anything that isn’t Hand Made, a place where Johnny has to be hand dug and occasionally relocated. A society that is Agrarian by force and Hunter Gatherer by necessity

Jimbo
February 7, 2013 2:30 pm

With no diesel fuel, the trucking industry would grind to a halt. Almost all retail goods in the US are delivered by trucks. Grocery shelves would begin to empty.

This effect was felt in the UK some years back when the road haulage industry went on strike over the high cost of fuel. Very soon things started to look very bad.

Owners of electric cars might smirk at first, but would soon be forced to the unpleasant reality that the vehicle they thought was “emission free” runs on coal.

I always laugh when people talk of their new, clean electric car. Unless it’s recharged by solar, wind or hydro then it ain’t so clean.

The only reliable power sources left would be hydroelectric and nuclear.

But I thought the environmentalists are on the whole against nuclear and hydro.

Garbage collection becomes a thing of the past. Garbage will be piled high in the streets.

I disagree Anthony. You can only have a lot of garbage if you can first get the goods. ;O)

Wood burning to stay warm during the winter becomes all the rage again. Smoke pollution returns to cities, especially in winter.

It’s happened this winter in Germany due to the high cost of fuel. You would also see this effect get worse in the third world as forest vanish fast. It’s already happening but would accelerate. These predictions and Anthony’s you can take to the bank.

MattS
February 7, 2013 2:32 pm

John Whitman,
“those controlling the guys with disciplined and organized use of guns are going to have the ultimate advantage in the staying alive game.”
You are assuming that the “guys with disciplined and organized use of guns” are going to keep listening to the bureaucrats under the postulated conditions. While this is not impossible it is unjustified as an assumption.

Jimbo
February 7, 2013 2:38 pm

The only people that would feel the pain less are, for example, the poor, living on subsistence levels in warm tropical climes. They would soon be joined by bands of climate refugees from the far north. Oh, the irony. 😉
Cold kills.

F. Ross
February 7, 2013 2:48 pm

My favorite novel which deals with the scenarios under discussion [although initiated by nuclear war] is A Canticle for Leibowitz
I have read it multiple times over the years and always find something new in it each time. It is probably out of print, but many used book stores may have a copy if anyone is interested.
“Eat, eat!”

Jon
February 7, 2013 2:49 pm

MarkW says:
February 7, 2013 at 2:03 pm
Jon says:
February 7, 2013 at 12:55 pm
Tell that to the Taliban!

The Taliban hate religion?
No, they epitomize the evils committed in the name of religion!

Nik
February 7, 2013 2:50 pm

No need to imagine any scenarios. Go live in a subsistence economy for a few days to get a taste of life with no energy. The simplest needs take soooo much time and effort to meet. Carrying water, growing food, building shelters or anti erosion terraces are a hard slog. Anyone who wants to can experience it by taking a few days in such a place, there are plenty of them about. Then we talk about it.

Gail Combs
February 7, 2013 2:51 pm

majormike1 says:
February 7, 2013 at 12:54 pm
I can imagine it would be quite a nice adventure – no engine, no fuel, no electricity sailing. However, if it was a no food trip because the food you want to take with you couldn’t be produced (no power for canning) and you couldn’t get transportation for it to the dock, that could be a different matter. Canned foods need energy to produce. Water pumped and stored. Without fuel, I suppose you ate all cold meals. Or did you have a solar oven? Wood fires don’t go well with ship travel.
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Non perishable food can be produced. I know a guy who still does potato storage with the same method used during colonial times for sailing ships. You boil the potatoes in a big iron kettle of pine sap and then fish them out. They are sterilized and sealed and ready to eat on board ship. Just peel (They are good!)
For old fashioned food preparation (Putting food by) see a North Carolina “neighbor” of mine’s book “Granny’s Home Cookin” Grannywarriors
Just in case you are wondering I am not a “survivalist” I just do an incredible amount of reading and talking to lots of different people. I also do children’s entertainment which is where I run into vendor’s like the guy who does the potatoes, homemade soap, horse drawn equipment demos….
This is one of the places I have been – The Southeast Old Thresher’s Reunion, a great place to take kids to see living history that is more ‘hands on’ than you get in a museum. NC has quite a few of these type events so we do have the equipment and know how in small pockets.

Reply to  Gail Combs
February 7, 2013 3:50 pm

I used to do a lot of backpacking as a Scout and Scout leader, so I know there are a lot of things you can do to prepare and store food. But the food doesn’t grow and transport itself, and it usually takes energy to prepare for storage, then energy to cook it to make it palatable. Little Jimmy Dickens remembered how “taters never did taste good, with chicken on the plate, but my mommy would make me take an old cold tater and wait” when they had company and didn’t know if they would have enough chicken to go around.
And life on a 21st Century boat will be tough when you have to get by with 19th Century cooking and storage methods. From one Combs to another.

February 7, 2013 2:53 pm

Douglas Proctor says our civilisation is not built to last. Why would you build it to last? People have finite lifespans and that’s about as long as infrastructure needs to last. There is also technological progress making existing things obsolete. Building to last just makes these things more difficult to tear down.

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