Guest post by Steve Goreham
Originally published in The Washington Times
The United States must pay for its evil carbon-emitting ways. According to the United Nations Doha Climate Conference that ended on December 8, developing nations should be compensated for “associated loss and damage” from climate change by the wealthy nations. Developing nations will now pursue industrialized nations for compensation from sea level rise, extreme weather, and other events allegedly caused by past emissions of greenhouse gases. Since the US was the world’s leading emitter of greenhouse gases until 2007 when China assumed the lead, the US is the primary target of this conclusion.
At the 2010 Cancun Conference, delegates acknowledged that industrialized nations were responsible for global warming, stating “…the largest share of historical global emissions of greenhouse gases originated in developed countries…” The just concluded Doha Conference called for establishment of “institutional arrangements, such as an international mechanism” to “address loss and damage associated with the impacts of climate change in developing countries.” In other words, let’s form an international body to pursue money from nations responsible for historical global emissions of greenhouse gases, namely the US and other industrialized nations. Compensation could amount to hundreds of billions of dollars per year.
Why would US delegates agree to such a position? Unfortunately, our current administration accepts the doctrine of Climatism, the belief that man-made greenhouse gases are destroying Earth’s climate. As Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in 2009, “We acknowledge—now with President Obama—that we have made mistakes in the United States, and we along with other developed countries have contributed most significantly to the problem we face with climate change.”
A major voice at the conference in favor of associated loss and damage was the Alliance of Small Island States (AOSIS). AOSIS consists of 43 members, including the Bahamas, Cuba, Fiji, Maldives, Mauritius, and the Seychelles. These countries are rightly concerned about the threat that rising sea levels pose to their homelands. AOSIS members seek to sue in the International Court of Justice for damages from US-made climate change.
But is the rise of the oceans man-made or natural? Geological data shows that sea levels have risen about 390 feet as Earth has warmed from the last ice age 20,000 years ago. No one can tell how much, if any, of the 7‒8 inch rise over the last hundred years is man-made. Nor is there any empirical evidence that sea level change will accelerate to 20 feet per century as predicted by some climate doomsayers.
Those concerned about the climate also claim that weather events such as Hurricane Sandy and Typhoon Bopha, that hit the Philippines last week, were strengthened by man-made warming. But empirical evidence shows that, on a global basis, neither the strength nor the frequency of hurricanes and tropical storms has increased over the last 35 years.
The theory of man-made global warming is increasingly suspect. The 1990 First Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) predicted a rise in global surface temperatures of 0.3oC per decade. The report provided a “high estimate,” a “best estimate,” and a “low estimate” for global temperature rise. But 22 years later, global temperatures sit far below the IPCC’s 1990 low estimate. Recent data from the University of East Anglia do not show statistically significant warming in global surface temperatures for the last sixteen years.
Nevertheless, with the full support of the US government, your tax dollars are now in play to compensate developing nations for sea level rise, typhoon damage, droughts and floods. It’s all part of this mad, mad, mad world.
Steve Goreham is Executive Director of the Climate Science Coalition of America and author of the new book The Mad, Mad, Mad World of Climatism: Mankind and Climate Change Mania.
Since the US was the world’s leading emitter of greenhouse gases until 2007 when China assumed the lead, the US is the primary target of this conclusion….
Nonsense!
There are two reasons to target the US:
1 – it’s got a lot of money
2 – the UN have found that they can get it from the US quite easily.
Change any one of those things, and you will magically find that the US is no longer targeted. I see that, with your Fiscal Cliff, you are well on the way to changing the first of these..
John Peter says:
“Not being an American I may be wrong, but I thought that the US House of Representatives control the purse strings and that even pres. Obama cannot alone or with the help of the Senate provide these payments even if they wanted.”
So you would think. However, the recent U.S. budget has been subject to feats of legerdemain and prestidigitation unmatched in U.S. history. An actual budget has not been passed by both houses of Congress in three years. The last one passed included an additional, whopping $800 billion ($800,000,000,000) supposedly one-time stimulus. Because a new budget has not been passed and because the government has been operating under “continuing resolutions”, that $800 billion has become part of the baseline budget and is renewed every year. There is a lot you can do with an extra $800 billion.
As an extra note, the President is supposed to propose a new budget t be acted upon by Congress every year. The last one proposed by Obama was so laughable, it was rejected by a unanimous 99-0 vote in the Senate. Not even one member of Obama’s own party voted for it.
“…delegates acknowledged that industrialized nations were responsible for global warming…”
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Bwaaaa haaaa haaaa!!!!!
@Snake Oil Baron
“When are all nations going to demonstrate their sincere belief in rising sea levels by reprinting books, replacing signs, and altering web pages to show altitudes for their mountains and monuments based on the “new” sea levels?”
Already happening.
Here in Queensland Oz (with a government that mostly regards all this stuff as bunk) we now have an interim State Planning Policy that has 0.8m SLR and more extreme weather “at 2100”.
Now maybe the “at 2100” is being deliberately vague, eg a wait and see measure? It won’t necessarily be interpreted that way of course.
At least they haven’t started messing with the signs. Engineers need those to calculate wind speeds above about 150km/hr. Anemometers won’t do the job.
Oh, okay, they can plug into those solar panels or windmills if they really want to (they might learn something about solar panels and windmills – especially if they have to brush the snow off them every day).
Also, apologies for typos “What clothes would they BE left with?” was what I meant.
By the way, I’m no Right Wing anything either. In fact, I’m not “into” politics at all. I don’t like the subject. I’m here because a bunch of Greenie-Alarmist-Idiots keep insisting Humans are Bad and should be Punished and we all ought to lay down and DIE for the sake of Gaia. And I’m supposed to be the extremist???
What is fair is fair. We in the United States and England should be compensated for the increased life spans, better healthcare, and technology that we brought forth through the industrial revolution.
Otherwise you would mostly still be eating food cooked on dung fires and dying at 35.
You Americans need to take care here.
The IPCC could send a gunboat to enforce their will.
OT?
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2012/12/10/terence-corcoran-obamas-fisker-cliff/
This is good news. Any claim of extreme weather of one country against another would require proof that such an event was actually caused by CO2, of which there is none. That would open the floodgates disproving AGW.
I think we should sue Egypt and Russia for repairs of the US during the worst hurricane seasons from 1996 to present. They finished the Aswad Dam in 1997, which stopped cooling fresh water to the Med Sea, which increase the flow of the hotter waters of the Med into the Atlantic and causing the worst chain of hurricanes known in the History of the United States to this day.
I hope the USA is not missing a trick here. As we are now entering into a planetary cooling phase (slightly exacerbated by cooling GHGs which radiate lots of energy into space and without which the planet would be much warmer) surely the developing nations including certain island states should be paying off the USAs national debt?
Maybe Obama isn’t as stupid as he sounds? Maybe he has got this all planned and the whole Climate Change scam is in fact a sting operation?
Currently here in the US, 1% of the people pay 40% of the taxes, while 2% pay 60%. At that rate, it should require just 3% to pay 80% and 4% to pay 100%. That means the rest of the population, or 96% of us, should be working tax free!
No?
Makes far more sense than what the UN proposes.
Okay but the free lunch line is over on the other side of the ocean.
I think ‘we’ should compensate ‘them’ but as part of the deal ‘they’ will need to give back all all the products that ‘they’ have been benefiting from ‘us’ from say the past 150 years. After all if ‘they’ didn’t then in all fairness ‘they’ would be just as much to blame as consumers as ‘we’ the producers.
This would include all transport, cars, ships aeroplanes etc and all the fuels and lubricants ‘they’ have ever used. All building materials, concrete, steel, gyproc, glass, wiring etc…
All man made clothing and household products including electical and electronic devices, cleaning products and utilities technology sourced from ‘us’…
All food, food preparation equipment and transportation costs of such food (including costs of refrigeration).
All pharmaceuticals, medical equipment and compensation for medical training undertaken with ‘us’…
Then there’s the compensation for protection from domination by foreign powers ( ie Japan and Germany during WW2 and later China and Russian expansionism during the Cold War).
There are probably many other things that ‘they’ have benefitted from as consumers and in some cases producers, such as free markets, access to global finance, entertainment and education that ‘they’ would have to compensate ‘us’ for but I’m sure ‘we’ could factor all of that in some how.
I’m also sure that ‘we’ could work out a way that ‘they’ could compensate ‘us’ for any artefacts that they could not hand back and all the oil, gas, coal, and chemicals that ‘they’ sourced from ‘us’ over that time.
Once all that’s done ‘we’ and ‘they’ would be balanced in terms of carbon blame and we could then work out any future issues from there…
It’s kind of ironic that in order for the US to pay this extortion they would have to borrow the funds from China!
Have those small island states no shame? What they are participating in amounts to extortion.
Steve Goreham posted in part, 12/12/12:
“Recent data from the University of East Anglia do not show statistically
significant warming in global surface temperatures for the last sixteen years”
The graph in the article linked shortly afterwards begins with a century-class
El Nino spike.
To see the picture better, have a look at smoothed HadCRUT3, which is
the blue curve in the 1st graph at:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcrut3/diagnostics/global/nh+sh/
It looks to me more like essentially no warming in the 11 years since 2011.
I’m with A.D. Everard on this one, I did not set out to destroy, steal and bind anyone. But these UN, Useless Nut-jobs did and now they are fully exposed.
North Korea is in the news and the lifestyle of the average citizen of North Korea is what these bandits would have wished on us.
I propose we cut a deal with Dear Leader, we trade.
North Korea gets the green weenies from our countries, we take all the North Koreans that want out and we will throw in some more shiny weapons as long as Dear Leader gives these people what they have been insisting we must accept.
Now thats what I call a WIN WIN..The greens get what they claim they want. The North Koreans get out if they want.
Of course when the hysteria claiming warming stops, the claimants(topic of post) will have to pay the USA for enriching the atmosphere with plant food benefiting agricultural the most.
The US has a clever plan. Now into its second term, the idea is to drive the country so hopelessly into debt that it will be borrowing from Bangladesh. Hard to pay back when your lending nations are the Maldives, China and Greece.
…. And yet we are the only one complying with Kyoto. Today’s headline :
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-ticker/fracking-good-economy-environment-155325507.html
You can almost hear the green heads exploding. Like Kermit the frog said, It’s not easy being green – more true now than ever.
Donald L. Klipstein says:
December 12, 2012 at 4:55 pm
It looks to me more like essentially no warming in the 11 years since 2011.
See my post at the following that shows the longest time when the slope is 0 on several data sets:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/12/12/uah-global-temperature-down-slightly-for-november-2012/#comment-1171492
Then there is also the time when the warming is NOT significant at the 95% level. For Hadcrut4, that is since 1995 as shown below.
Taking the Hadcrut4 dataset, here are the trend values in degrees C/decade over five closely-related time periods.
1995-2012 +0.109 +/- 0.129
1996-2012 +0.107 +/- 0.129
1997-2012 +0.058 +/- 0.142
1998-2012 +0.052 +/- 0.153
1999-2012 +0.095 +/- 0.162
You can also sort of tell this from the site you mentioned. Note that the top of the grey error bar for 1995 is above the bottom of the grey error bar for 2012.
I have a feeling that with cash on the line, there is going to be some real climate science research taking place in the US and Europe and valuation of the benefits of the miniscule warming and the CO2, and about time, too.
Why settle for a measly 11 years (since 2011??)? How about no warming since the Holocene Optimum?
Steve from Rockwood says:
“The US has a clever plan. Now into its second term, the idea is to drive the country so hopelessly into debt that it will be borrowing from Bangladesh. Hard to pay back when your lending nations are the Maldives, China and Greece.”
Doha is just a distraction. Obama intends to make the U.S. a subservient country subject to a vote of the 196 countries in the UN. How will they vote? Doha makes it clear that they will vote America’s wealth into their pockets, based on any fabricated pretext.
We have passed the point of no return. From now on it is only a mopping up operation. America has been sold out, and it will get worse, and worse, until it is ruled by a totalitarian dictatorship.
The following is an excerpt from American Digest, and only the most naive optimist would dispute this analysis:
And just in case you don’t think they’re making lists….
They’ve already had the GooHooBingBook hipsters set them up with a data mining operation. Once it’s up and running, it doesn’t take much to re-purpose. They have lots of money left over. Now they are trying to get their supporters to call up other targeted people and put pressure on the Republican Congresscritters. And so it begins.
Which means they have a list of their reliable people, their potential supporters, and a list of Others. Data mining merges their own data with anything found on the Web. Now that they aren’t running a campaign but they still have a war chest, they can grab or buy surreptitiously anything out there, and “there’s no controlling legal authority”. And Google will be glad to help, Eric Schmidt will personally see to it, he’ll sell them the rope.
And when these unemployed hipsters with massive college debt call you up, and you start cussing at the mention of the Usurper and being “uncooperative”, well, then you go on the “Other” list. And they data mine you and find out everything about you, and how you can be hurt.
They’ll keep track of how often you help them. The compliant ones, who respond to their pleas, will soon start getting bennies. And who the heck is paying for all this? Shoot, no one had the courage to sue them when they were laundering millions in illegal foreign money during both elections. The Courts and the constitutional lawyers mewled that “nobody has standing to sue”. Now that they are beyond the reach of election law, the money just magically appears. None dare call it treason.
Like a pusher or a pimp, they’ll next try to get you to graduate to the “hard stuff”: direct action. Please, they’ll say, we really need your help, show up at this time and place to help the Usurper. They’ll loan you a t-shirt to wear (and ask you to buy it). The leaders will have special shirts, and campaign-style buttons, and perhaps cute little hats. And you’ll go where you’re told, and do what you’re asked to. They’ll bus you there and give you a stipend. You’re One of Them now.
And if you keep answering their call, you go higher on the “One of Us” list, and qualify for more bennies. Free phones, debt forgiveness, extra ration cards. Chevy Volts at an unheard of discount.
Watch for it.
The turning point is when the purple T-shirts disappear, and it becomes button-down shirts with epaulets. Uniforms. Insignia. The hats aren’t so cute anymore. You’ll be part of the team now, the core of the Usurper’s civilian national security force. And you’ll go where you’re told, and you’ll do what you’re told, because the bennies keep coming, and you’re in for a penny, in for a pound.
And the people you’re contesting against? Well, they’re the Other, they’re just wrong, they’re the 1% that’s keeping you down and pissing on you all the time. And now it’s your turn, your time to rise. Time for revenge, to punch back twice as hard. And when some of your folks start feeling queasy about the hurt you’re putting on all those Others, somebody with hard dead eyes will say “You can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs.”
You won’t have to worry about the police. They’ll be on your side. Their loyalty is to their union and police brothers, not our Constitution. They’ll look the other way, and slow-walk complaints. Unless you’re on the “Other” list, in which case they’ll come on like a ton of bricks. They’ll be told who’s on which list, and they’ll do what they’re told. LAPD has shown us the truth of it.
When a sitting President encourages people to vote for revenge, that is a declaration of civil war! Statements like that should not be made, because they take on a life of their own. We the People granted limited powers to our governments to secure some of our Rights, and the Blessings of Liberty for everyone. The Usurper intends to use those powers for revenge of one faction upon another. No rational, moral, civilized, peaceful person would say such a thing. Ever.
The Usurper and his minions have told you all this. He decides how much money you’re allowed to make. You don’t own what you create. If need be they’ll send you to re-education camps. We need a personally-loyal civilian army. Why don’t you believe him? Do you believe that he can’t possibly want civil war? Of course he doesn’t, he wants to so demoralize you, and make you think you are alone, that you won’t stand your ground, but give up and give in to the inevitable. But he will not shy from a civil war. He intends to push you to the limit, that you will start it, and he will then crush you before you have time to organize an effective opposition.
Right now the Usurper doesn’t give a crap about fiscal cliffs. He doesn’t care what any of that will do to the country. His three objectives are to demoralize and destroy the conservative opposition, co-opt and corrupt the Republicans (so easy!), and then break free of the Constitution.
It seems like a dream, a mirage of unbreakable normality.
Like the spring of 1914 or 1939, like the crisp fall morning eleven years ago. Like our exceptional, beautiful country, the rarest gem in all of history, is so big and strong, nothing can happen to it, everything will go on peacefully as before, we are still the shining city on the hill, and our best days are before us. Every day we make plans for next year and the years after, and can’t possibly imagine or consider that any set of events will break our idyll of peace and turn all our plans to dust. I fly across the country, and see the vast strength of it and Our People, and think my fears are childish and foolish vapors. And then I remember that all civilizations crumble.
We must make new plans. We must be prepared. We must resist the Usurper and his minions. Now and every day. They have lost their faith in God, and seek to secure their lives by taking ours.
We must remain true to the faiths of our fathers and mothers. The United States of America, the new nation that put its Trust in God, that brought the Blessings of Liberty to the world, must not perish. Today is not that day.
Tolkein is my guide.
Frodo: “I wish the Ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened.”
Gandalf: “So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
Lincoln is my guide:
“Sir, my concern is not whether God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God’s side, for God is always right”
John A. Fleming, at americandigest.org
Canada simply takes the funds from current foreign aid and will re-label it (at no extra cost to her tax payers).
By the way, I notice that Doug Cotton managed to slip in some Sky Dragon into this thread.
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