This is the ninth in a series of 13 articles challenging climate change orthodoxy commissioned by Professor Gwythian Prins. We will be publishing the articles at a rate of one a week (read the first article here, the second here, the third here, the fourth here, the fifth here, the sixth here, the seventh here and the eighth here). The hope is that they can be collected into a book for Sixth Formers and university students.
When I entered politics roughly a quarter of a century ago, human-induced climate change was my primary reason for running in the 1999 European elections and, at that time, I considered it the greatest threat to humanity. I began my journey in the European Parliament Committee for Environment as an active climate legislator and attended most of the UN climate COP (Conference of the Parties) meetings as a member of the parliamentary delegation. I also served on a temporary Climate Change Committee in 2007, aiming to influence all possible climate and energy related issues.
My years as a lawmaker and a COP attendee have significantly shifted my perspective. Over this period, I’ve observed the environmental movement – and consequently the COPs, the Greens and the Commission – alter their stance on nearly all key climate policy instruments. I’ve witnessed numerous pendulum swings, with efforts to try to correct policies pursued with equal fervour as the original measures. Biofuels and the attitude towards biomass energy use are prime examples. The result has been a bipolar approach, swinging from one extreme to another, which has decisively weakened Europe’s investment environment.
After witnessing our grandiose, expensive, yet ineffective policies, I even feel compelled to ask: which endangers our security more, climate change or current climate policy? Naturally, I must justify such an audacious question. I owe an explanation for what happened during my career as a legislator. I’ve addressed this in my doctoral dissertation, ‘The Rise and Fall of the Kyoto Protocol – Climate Change as a Political Process’ (2014), where I detail the mistakes made in the name of climate policy – errors that have, unfortunately, often harmed the environment.
For many, the fight against climate change is synonymous with the Kyoto Protocol and its UN framework. In my thesis, I analysed its most relevant elements and ideological assumptions. The climate problem has been presumed to be more one-dimensional than it truly is, leading to excessive simplification. The protocol has constrained leaders with climate puritanism and a politics of limitation, ultimately resulting in a series of failures.
Firstly, it’s fair to say that the success of climate actions has been disturbed by massive and unpredictable globalisation. Between 1997 and 2002, nobody anticipated that China, India and parts of South America would absorb industrial production so forcefully from Europe and the US. The emission share of Kyoto-target countries was marginalised, falling from 63% at the protocol’s entry into force to just 13% under Kyoto II.
The Kyoto Protocol proved ineffective in positively influencing this development. In the case of industrialised nations, no significant differences in rates of CO2 decline can be traced between countries that had undertaken Kyoto obligations and those that had not. The Kyoto Protocol’s ratifiers fared no better than non-ratifiers.
We need to question if there’s something inherent in the structure of the Kyoto approach that hampered its efficiency. According to many climate policy researchers, numerous factors are at play, from the analysis of the problem’s nature to its basic assumptions, flawed tools and remedies.
Ideology and power dynamics
The foundation for the Kyoto Protocol was laid in the 1980s and 90s. That entire era was characterised by the rise of the environmental movement and its ideological mindset, which is reflected in the Kyoto agreement’s toolkit and the nature of the COP process. This is clearly seen in the case of nuclear power. While COP3 in Kyoto in 1997 indicated that nuclear power would gain more support, by COP4, critical factions were better organised, gathering new opponents. The harmful results of nuclear power were eagerly listed, an attitude that dominated the COP culture for years.
From the very beginning, phasing out nuclear power has been the number one priority for the environmental movement. Their argument often appeals to future generations, claiming nuclear energy ‘hands the problem over to them’. However, this prioritisation has, in practice, significantly increased the world’s environmental problems: air pollution, forest destruction, the expanded use of fossil energy and the numerous accidents caused by it. These problems, too, are delegated to future generations. It is therefore noteworthy that the only form of energy with historical evidence of significant emissions reductions is shunned by those who demand an urgent reduction in CO2 emissions.
Adaptation was a similar taboo. For a long time, environmental organisations opposed measures promoting adaptation to climate change. Al Gore was one of the most impressive opponents of adaptation. In 1992, he stated that it represents “a kind of laziness, an arrogant faith in our ability to react in time to save our skins”. Emission mitigation and adaptation to climate change were seen as mutually exclusive alternatives in climate conference culture. The first option was considered the right way to solve the climate change problem, while the latter was seen as an undesirable policy reflecting a reprehensible attitude. Adaptation was only gradually accepted onto the climate conferences’ official agenda after less-developed countries began to demand it. The 2010 Hartwell Paper was one of the most prominent high-level policy documents to argue for ‘no regrets’ adaptation in contexts of imperfect knowledge and it was castigated by Gore and his kind for doing so. Yet the passage of 15 years has shown the Hartwellians to have been right all along.
The overemphasis on mitigation at the expense of adaptation has been an error stemming from fundamentalism, an error that has been responsible for many deaths, especially in developing countries. The actual prevention of damages and actual adaptation to change in the real world have been viewed as a threat to the viability of mitigation (reduction) policy. Paradoxically, and from a political standpoint, this has significantly slowed down the process of making society more resilient to extreme weather events. In some sense, all societies have been poorly prepared for climate impacts. Therefore, it is necessary to develop technologies, institution, and practices to minimise risks, from weather-proof civil engineering to early warning systems. These are necessary in any case – ‘no regrets actions’, in the Hartwell phrase. It is immaterial whether the cause is human-induced or natural.
I also see unwelcome ramifications in the starting point of setting a ceiling for emissions. From my philosophical studies, I learned that it’s always useful to question things taken for granted. So I ask: why a ceiling? Why not a floor? Regarding greenhouse gas emission reductions, I no longer believe in a policy of restriction and emission ceilings.
Why? They produce results too slowly, and they mostly just pass problems back and forth in the planet’s atmosphere as they transfer emissions from one place to another. Moreover, by focusing mainly on carbon dioxide, other serious environmental problems have been neglected. It could be much more effective to pursue reasonable and necessary political measures: decarbonisation, pollution prevention, combating poverty and biodiversity loss, afforestation, energy savings, clean energy and adaptation. Merely fixating on binding ceilings can lead to self-delusion, interpreting emission reductions resulting from economic recession as a genuine achievement.
Another form of self-deception lies in the criteria of emission source. The basic problem of the Kyoto Protocol was that it did not pay attention to consumption, only to production. A country’s emissions cover all production that has taken place there; thus, the Protocol would punish countries with energy-intensive production, even if that production was generated with the lowest possible emissions. Instead, consumption, which should be decisive and could be a reasonable method for political steering, was practically not considered at all. We must remember that the consumer is the polluter, not the producer. It may come as a surprise to many that during our climate actions in Europe, we have actually increased our emissions.
COP meetings, the summaries of the IPCC’s reports and the media reporting brought a new kind of climate narrative based on catastrophe talk and the discourse of fear. This alarmist rhetoric cultivates words like ‘chaos’, ‘catastrophe’ and ‘destruction’, and its tone is often quite rushed. It exploits the quasi-religious vocabulary of doomsday. It also created a new kind of climate moralism with the measurement of carbon footprints; and as Mike Hulme has argued for many years, and in his article in this collection, it is both a pernicious distraction and subversive of trust.
Inciting climate panic and pursuing emergency policies is dangerous because it leads to short-sighted solutions and ill-considered actions – as we have seen in legislation that swings from one extreme to another. It has also resulted in power being handed over to environmental organisations in the hands of activists and constraining the authority of democratically elected governments. Climate emergencies created by green populism can threaten constitutional rights and justify the suspension of normal politics.
Paris agreement and geopolitics
After Kyoto I and II, we got the Paris Agreement 10 years ago. It was called a paradigm shift: a non-binding ambitious treaty. It was an oxymoron, to be honest.
It can be argued that the agreement does not impose any significant, binding substantive obligations on the parties. Yet, regarding the final goal, it sets the objective of limiting the global average temperature increase to well below 2°C or even 1.5°C in a context where we have no idea what coupling to global temperatures CO2 actually has. This means that, collectively, it obliges the ratifying states to the technically impossible, while the agreement does not bind them as individual countries at all.
Does this gap between ambition and obligation pose a problem? Will this paradoxical starting point produce results? And on what terms?
Many observers have called this combination of a tough target on the one hand and non-binding commitments on the other a form of self-deception. Is it any more binding than wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year? So, why did all the stakeholders celebrate? Especially, why did the environmental NGOs celebrate and even shed tears of joy? Normally, after COP meetings, they publish press releases criticising the lack of ambition.
The Kyoto framework, being a single, massive, binding and integrated deal, was simply too unrealistic for countries with very different interests and capabilities. This time, stakeholders wanted to avoid the US Senate becoming an obstacle to ratification: a binding treaty would have required that.
It has been very clear for a long time that the EU climate strategy, based on the Kyoto framework, did not attract the major emitters, who favour multiple strategies and different climate clubs.
I return to my question about environmental NGOs. Why did they celebrate after Paris? By failing to close the gap between ambition and obligation, the Paris Agreement created a serious problem for governments, leaving a void to be filled by non-governmental actors. Here I quote a Dutch professor of international environmental liability law, Dr Lucas Bergkamp:
The ambition-obligation disparity creates a large arena for climate activism at international and national levels, effectuating a transfer of power… that is inconsistent with the fundamental principles of constitutional government. If the collective efforts appear to fall short of achieving the Paris Agreement’s objectives, the judiciary is likely to be dragged into climate policymaking.
In other words, here comes more ‘lawfare’; as indeed it has, usually riding on the spurious concept of superordinate an ‘international law’ of ‘human rights’. Great Britain is a world leader in such ‘lawfare’ under its present government of human rights lawyers, as witness the bizarre surrender of sovereignty over the Chagos Islands.
Thus, the Paris Agreement paves the way for the new international ‘climate governance’ movement. Its implicit reliance on political activism by the climate movement and the related non-hierarchical governance by courts constitute a threat to constitutional government, the rule of law and representative democracy. It risks an unconstitutional usurpation of power by activist groups and unelected and unaccountable judges that could undermine legislative power and the role of positive law in deciding legal disputes. This risk of subversion is not well understood by politicians and governments.
Europe’s position
What about Europe? We are still largely alone in our climate efforts. We never achieved a global deal. Our unilateral and expensive climate measures cannot truly be considered ‘climate’ politics. They can be described as the decarbonisation of production or the outsourcing of jobs or emissions, but despite the best intentions, the EU strategy has so far not tackled the global problem on a global scale.
The EU commits to a Net Zero target by 2050, while countries like Russia and China are bound by practically nothing. Compare and contrast: last year, China built a record amount of coal power while, according to European Commission estimates, the Net Zero target costs the EU €1.5 trillion annually.
I find this situation surrealistically insane. Only a special kind of stubborn orthodoxy prevents many from seeing and saying it aloud. We are starting to reinvest in deterrence and defence across Europe. At the same time, we are undergoing a drastic unilateral disarmament in the economic sphere in the name of ‘climate leadership’. This happens in two ways. First, China gains an economic competitive advantage for its products in the global market. Second, because of our energy policy, we in the EU have become increasingly dependent specifically on Chinese technology, much like Germany became dependent on Russian energy with its Energiewende. What is the sense in that, please?
Dr Eija-Riitta Korhola was an MEP from 1999-2014. She served as Chairman of the European Parliament Environment Committee, in which capacity she attended most of the COPs. She was also a member of the Hartwell Group.
The lightbulb flickers on, which is good. Now, if she could just crank up the wattage…
Any wattage she cranks up will be in the direction of more effective legislation to tackle climate Change.
She says:
After witnessing our grandiose, expensive, yet ineffective policies, I even feel compelled to ask: which endangers our security more, climate change or current climate policy? Naturally, I must justify such an audacious question.
She whines about ineffective policies. She wants policies that reduce CO2 emissions without a negative effect on our security. Yeah right, and people in Hell want ice water.
She is convinced carbon dioxide is a problem and she’s not going to change her mind on that point.
I don’t think she is convinced as you say.
“where we have no idea what coupling to global temperatures CO2 actually has”
Right. She negotiated the ruination of entire countries without knowing whether there was a problem.
She recognized that the path forward led in the wrong direction and changed course.
FYI, I was responding to the specific comment of:
“She is convinced carbon dioxide is a problem and she’s not going to change her mind on that point.”
Note the comment was phrased in present tense.
My comment wasn’t meant to criticize you, SN, but her.
And let’s face it – her wrong path forward was the political shilly-shallying. It wasn’t wrong because the claims about GHG emissions are completely unfounded. I.e., the whole project is misconceived and of negative benefit.
We are in agreement.
My point is the present tense of the sentence as I read that she has presently changed her position on that.
A nit, perhaps.
Eija-Riitta Korhola may have changed her mind about various aspects of climate legislation, but it’s pretty obvious she still thinks CO2 emissions are causing a climate problem that needs to be addressed.
There isn’t any climate problem. People like Eija-Riitta Korhola are a problem.
Bingo
Always reassuring to see that reason / rationality can supplant ideology.
But why do so many presumably intelligent people fall into the “go-along-to-get-along” meek position before they allow the rationality our species reached through natural evolution to shine through?
Riddle me that, Batman!
Prestige. Money. Power. Control. Re-election (aka job security).
That is the short list.
I love that word, presumably … so, stop presuming, they are not smart. They’re politicians, so they are smarmy and sneaky, but not smart.
It is the Midwit Crisis!
All the additional students that were pushed to enter college over the last 30-40 years as a means of ensuring equity are now coming to the realization that, for many, their degree ain’t worth spit! Underwater Basketweaving and Lesbian Palestinian Interpretive Dance degrees don’t enjoy a particularly high level of financial reward despite countless professorial assurances of their value, and tens of thousands in college loan debt!
Even worse, many of these occupiers of the middle of the IQ bell curve have been told for years how smart they are for agreeing with their teachers and parroting the corporate line! With little in the way of logic or critical thinking skills, they are ripe for being plucked by the Manic Marxists and Sociopathic Socialists! Useful; yep! Idiot; pretty much!
It’s like someone in power decided that Dunning-Kruger should be celebrated, not avoided! Right, Eldrosian!?
It’s because our evolutionary history of tribal survival has produced people who go along to get along, thus maintaining group coherence.
Anyone capable of critical thought and who has engaged against a corrosive social frenzy (AGW; covid spike mRNA shots) will have discovered that the pushers are few, but moralizing bullies, while moral cowardice in response is widespread.
I think it’s that most people are incapable of seeing second order effects, nor are they able to detect the authoritarian nature of nut zero. Even if we knew for sure that there was a climate crisis windmills, solar panels and EVs wouldn’t fix it, to say nothing of the even wackier schemes like green hydrogen and carbon capture. That should be obvious but apparently not
Eija Riitta Korhola refers to: “… reasonable and necessary political measures: decarbonisation …”.
I am not impressed.
Me neither (-:
You missed the overarching context.
“Moreover, by focusing mainly on carbon dioxide, other serious environmental problems have been neglected.”
“It could be much more effective to pursue reasonable and necessary political measures: decarbonisation, pollution prevention, combating poverty and biodiversity loss, afforestation, energy savings, clean energy and adaptation.”
I read this as a position statement that what is ongoing is unreasonable.
For example, a reasonable measure (re decarbonisation) could resolve to do nothing.
Yep, I was taught in early career business management training that the first consideration of approaches when confronted with a problem was –
“do nothing”.
Then follow that approach through to probable outcomes / consequences, and see if the ‘fight’ is worth the effort.
My engineering career is not acceptance or avoidance of a problem.
When faced with a problem, think it through. Is the problem a trigger, a root cause, or a symptom/result. The idea is to address the root cause. So, identify all possible root causes however improbable. Then do the leg work. Analyze each. Rank by assessment. Then test the most likely ones first.
In the field of work, unresolved problems can result in death, not merely loss of money.
Your training, as I learned along the way, is the cost-risk-benefit analysis that engineers apply to new designs or design features.
Either way, the idea is to apply critical thinking to what one is facing.
Yes, one can only wonder if the efficacy / cost / outcomes / benefits of “renewables” were rationally thought through before politicians & bureaucrats committed $trillions of “other peoples’ money” to their implemantation.
I’m gonna say – NO!
I’m gonna joint the chorus and chime in with my own NO!
Only a special kind of stubborn orthodoxy prevents many from seeing and saying it aloud.
Look no further than Government, Parliament, Civil Service, [compliant] Media, and crucially state regulated education. The orthodoxy is very deeply dug in and it is very stubborn.
This only serves to encourage the truly lunatic, geo-engineering fringe of grifters.
UK experiments to reflect sunlight one step closer
The Advanced Research and Innovation Agency (ARIA) – a government backed body – is funding nearly £60m that could allow real-world experiments, including in the UK. – BBC
As far as Miliband et al. are concerned it’s [RCP8.5 scenario] business as usual. He is not going to have a moment on the road to Damascus. Far from it, he would put a congestion charge on it.
Addendum – Only a special kind of stubborn orthodoxy prevents many from seeing and saying it aloud.
A family has told of the moment they watched as their newbuild home went up in flames in a suspected solar panel fire, just weeks after a similar fire. Homes on the estate have now been told to switch off their panels. – DS
Environmentalism isn’t helping with the housing crisis…
With respect, I think you have it completely backwards. In environmental activist ideology, humans ARE the problem the earth needs a great depopulation. In this sense Environmentalism is helping with the housing crisis (too many people, too many houses). It’s a feature, not a bug.
I think it’s a mistake to believe all greens have exactly the same agenda, they too have their differences…
Those who lead have the agenda. The passionate rest are useful idiots.
The Club of Rome.
The Population Bomb.
People who write the words “key climate policy instruments” walk amongst us.
How did humanity get here?
People who speak [left wing approved] newspeak. The new art of the word salad has surpassed the cut and thrust of the rhetorical and oratory arts
True, and to think that in harsher times, we just accused them of escaping from the looneybin. Everyone has, not only the right to type “key climate policy instruments”, but they also have the right to believe it too.
People have no “right” to be comfortably stupid!
Think 1984. Orwell wrote it as a warning. Liberals are using it as an instruction manual.
in 1937 Orwell (The Road to Wigan Pier) described the left…
“One sometimes gets the impression that the mere words ‘Socialism’ and ‘Communism’ draw towards them with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, ‘Nature Cure’ quack, pacifist, and feminist in England.”
The difference today is they have blue and pink hair.
… and a multicolored trans flag…
You can Google “gibberish generator” “word salad” and “bullshit” and get pretty much the same definition for all three. Snake oil salesmen and politicians have always been among us.
Academia isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.
It’s social engineering
What a long, boring, self-justifying article.
Until the author understands that the whole thing is a gigantic SCAM based on a lie, there is little point in taking her seriously.
Here’s a suggestion, pet: why not simply get out of the entire CC business altogether and let market mechanisms work their magic to lower prices and improve the availability of energy?
Eija-Riitta Korhola CV check: BA, Philosophy.
While I welcome the sceptical reappraisal of the political actions on climate change, I wonder what the heck ever made her so confident climate change ls a great threat unless she also believed it is man-made and therefore likely to get ever worse. And how, as an innumerate non-scientist, could she properly be confident of that?
She has come a long way and deserves credit for being able to re-think, but it would be nice to also see some recognition she exceeded her competence (and should now remain vigilant).
Apparently in 2014 she gained a doctorate in environmental science…
It all falls into place now.
This admission about the Paris agreement surprised me:
“Yet, regarding the final goal, it sets the objective of limiting the global average temperature increase to well below 2°C or even 1.5°C in a context where we have no idea what coupling to global temperatures CO2 actually has.”
No kidding. We have been trying to tell you all that simple blunt-force fact for decades now.
And for that matter, there has never been a good physical reason to expect a harmful “warming” trend down here to be driven by the slightly improved IR activity of the atmosphere as the compressible working fluid of its own circulation.
That is all for now.
What’s your thought, David, on whether James Hanson – trained in astrophysics and solar atmospheres – knew your point about the impact of sl. increased IR activity, etc., when he testified on CO2 warming before the Senate Committee in 1988.
A good question to ask were he to be under oath.
Thanks for your reply, Pat. Hard to say about Hanson. My working assumption is that he must have had discussions with colleagues who knew better. But he seems to have seriously believed the “heat trapping” misconception all along. Tunnel vision. Whatever the case, it sure would be enlightening to ask him under oath! I must note that the 1979 NAS “Charney Report” accelerated the bandwagon before Hanson came to prominence. Why the sudden change from the 1978 “Ice Age Cometh” narrative to the “warming” myth in 1979? Psyop?
1979 was the Jimmy Carter presidency. Apparently he was an AGW believer.
The sudden shift may well have come from some back-room discussions about the sort of science that would attract generous Carter-government grants.
Thanks for that link. It rings true to my recollections during that time about the energy situation, but I was not hearing much, or maybe not paying much attention, to the emerging “warming” scare. A personal factoid is that in 1979 I was working for Exxon at their huge refinery in Baytown TX. My main processing unit was a catalytic reformer that turned out more than 50,000 barrels per day of high-octane gasoline blend stock. Then on the way home I had to sit in line at the Exxon station to get gas like everyone else. 🙂
You’re too honest man. I would’ve found a reason to have to manually test about 15 gallons and make sure the catalyst was “environmentally” up to spec. About once a week.
It’s spelled Hansen actually, although it would be nice if he could be erased from history completely, either spelling. The scientific fraud had a Powerpoint presentation on the internet that had slides with the oceans boiling from CO2 back radiation. Quite possibly the most mathematically incorrect calculation in the histories of both real and fake science.
Not surprisingly, it was disappeared from the internet years ago. I thought I had a copy, but I think my computer must have refused (slyly without telling me) to download such excrement. Maybe Anthony or CTM have computers with a stronger constitution.
Thanks for the spelling correction. I’ve written that name so often, one would think I could do it asleep. But no. 🙂
I have trouble thinking he didn’t know what he was doing – knowing that his position was scientifically unjustified.
Early on, I thought perhaps he’d decided by intuition that AGW was true and was betting on the come to later vindicate his bet and his artful pseudoscience. Feted as a prophet in his later years.
These days, I’m at a loss.
If he was betting on the next coming card being a good card, then he certainly didn’t play much poker.
Not withstanding other reactions in the comments, this seems like one of the best summaries of the failures in climate policies over the last 30 years. She hit the high points of the green campaigners push to get rid of nuclear, then coal, then all fossil fuels then a sudden realization that biofuels won’t save the planet back to we have to reconsider nuclear and maybe we need natural gas as a bridge fuel. It’s completely nuts and the governments that buy into the nonsense wreck much of their economy in the process.
She’s made a good point about the Paris agreement becoming the basis of climate litigation but I think this may become the undoing of the green movement. The pain inflicted on western nations that bought into climate mitigation have left a lot of workers livelihoods in jeopardy. They’ve led to the establishment of new political parties filled by people who don’t want to be cannon fodder in the climate wars when it’s clear that global greenhouse gas emissions have continued to increase.
Very expensive policies, particularly painful to the working class, have started a backlash that western leaders have to admit have been a complete failure. The green elites are just beginning to face class warfare inspired by their climate Puritanism.
What you’ve said is all very well but someone needs to make her realise that non of this crap was necessary in the first place. There is and never was a problem to solve. If she doesn’t understand that she should keep her mouth shut.
It is possible she does understand, but being in politics, she feels it more important to address the larger issues. Or, it could be as you said.
And ….”The harmful results of nuclear power were eagerly listed, an attitude that dominated the COP culture for years.”
What harmful results ?
Works too well ??
Climate policy and socialism have a lot in common. They’re both going to work once they’re done right the next time.
Like fusion, they are purported to be just 20 years from finally solving the inherent problems! Since socialism and climate policy are contrary to human nature and the scientific method, I place my hopes on at least fusion technology being feasible eventually; the others, not much!
“The climate problem has been presumed to be more one-dimensional than it truly is, leading to excessive simplification. “
This is certainly a significant understatement. Climate Science is one of the most complex scientific fields ever considered by humans. It involves such obscure fields as solar orbit dynamics, global air flow , global water flow, temperature measurement and recording technology, statistical analysis, thunderstorm formation and dynamics, cloud formation and reflectivity, computer modeling, numerous thermodynamic fields, radiation physics, solid state [physics, atmospheric physics, satellite dynamics, etc., to name but a few. One can certainly argue that there are no technical experts in ALL of the important fields. There are likely but a handful that are experts in enough of these fields to make informed judgements about climate science and who can follow enough of the experts in other fields to have good judgements on what from them can be trusted.
The biggest problem, in my view, is that uninformed politicians have have made serious policies, regulations, and laws that are contrary to the best proper actions in most of these fields. To convince most of the world that CO2 is the most significant controller of global temperatures is certainly wrong.
One minor disagreement.
There is no such thing as climate science.
What is being researched is a highly complex, multi-coupled, often random ENERGY system.
Your list of disciplines needs to include electromagnetic fields and waves which goes beyond radiation physics.
Climate is a (nova definition) 30 year average of weather. How is that science?
Control the language, control the ideas.
The biggest problem is that climate modelers falsely styled themselves as scientists, claimed they knew the effect of GHG emission, and actively pushed the politics of mitigation, while every single scientific society stood by and played along – most criminally, the APS and the National Academy.
Politicians may have seen the advantages, but the authority of the scientific societies drove the movement.
Before Trump leaves office an investigation into Federal decisions about funding “climate science” fairly needs to be done. How an implausible scenario can receive so much funding is criminal. It is difficult to believe that monied interests in renewables and their transmission did not have an outsized influence. The silencing of dissenting views is contemptible if not criminal.
This whole thing is just too Orwellian to believe that silent conspiracies were not in effect.
All the political hoopla these days is restricted to the Enlightenment-civilized countries. AGW, facilitated migration, protection of Islam. All in Western Europe, the US, Australia and New Zealand. Virtually nowhere else.
My view is that we’re seeing the end-stage of the Romantic counter-Enlightenment. The attack on science, reason, and individualism, launched in the late 18th century in response to the re-ordering of societies along the lines of science and Humanism.
The Romantics are Rousseauian-type humans for whom feelings and impulse are the highest good. They yearn for a slave-state, where one need only react in the judgment of a joint morality. The comfort of social mindlessness.
Individualistic societies remove that certainty, making them feel unsafe. They once had religion to give them the mindless peace of obedience. But only Islam has that slave-state power these days. So, they invent slave-state ideologies (Communism, Fascism, Greenism) and invent reasons to justify detesting the free (racism, sexism, denierism, unvaccinatedism).
Call it an emergent conspiracy, growing from a widespread human cohort sharing a slave psychology. They target a feared individualistic freedom and form associations to that end.
Well said. One can imagine the reaction of a pioneer to a bureaucrat arriving telling him that he built his log cabin incorrectly. Or telling a plains sod buster that he mistreated the moles, voles, and worms (thanks Yellowstone) when he plowed the prairie. Freedom DOES encompass individualism. It is anathema to government bureaucrats. The slave-state mentality lets Congress pass laws that basically say “regulate this” and leave it to bureaucrats to fill in the blanks so that Congress doesn’t need to assume the responsibility or accountability.
Planetary climatology is the field. Multiple sciences are the tools available to analyse and theorise about the subject matter – properties of planets orbiting our sun.
If you want some examples of equally complex fields have a look at the simple phenomenon – blood clotting. Another one would be immunology.
The cascades of feedback loops and branchings revealed by research up to the present day into how clots form, how they do not spread to the whole blood system and how they are safely dissolved is incredibly complicated.
Another field in medicine is Allergy, even more complex and currently incomprehensible.
To me, the mechanism of energy dissipation being matched to the energy being introduced to the surface of the planet is of the same complexity.
Instead of enzymes and receptors, a biochemical issue, the earth system is a thermodynamic complex where conduction, convection and radiation interact dynamically and a vital component of the system is water in gas, liquid and solid states – Goldilock’s ideal breakfast porridge.
Spot on.
Looks at both sides.
Assesses and reexamines her position.
Makes a shift and starts questioning the politics, etc.
Turncoat…or better said “from Saulus to pseudo Paulus”…honestly get lost.
There is little to learn from an author, particularly a female one, who selects the environment as a topic for a PhD. This is a clear sign that her mind was invaded by green dogma. The effort if a PhD was for selfish her, not for a better society. She will never recover. It is like the ingrown toenail on my left foot that gets worse now and then, responds to treatment by deep cutting, but never goes away.
Suggestion to author. Go back to school, study and become good at an endeavour that produces new wealth, like a new form of farming, ways to improve poor land for better use, better nuclear reactors for electricity, mineral exploration, that type of choice. Nothing arty farty. Green thoughts banned forever.
Geoff S
(Hard scientist.)
I agree Geoff. A year of chemistry and geology would really help.
Geoff – you’re ever a source of deep life-lived wisdom. 🙂
Thank you, Pat.
Your words have taught me a lot.
Your published work on the accumulation of errors in modelling is at the forefront of better understanding of how numbers work when ideology is not a driver. I have only been able to bleat about the poor science in climate research, with a symptom being little to no treatment of gross uncertainty estimates.
The US has laws about gold standard work and uncertainty estimates, but my laggard Australia has government scientific bodies like our CSIRO being losers on that topic, yet still the darlings of government. The CSIRO I used to work for in the 1960-70 era was a much tighter ship.
Your work is helping keep the rules visible in the US. Excellent.
Geoff S
She will never recover … but…. Go back to school… and what? Recover?
Never, as you well know, is an absolute.
FYI, there are environmentalists who actually study the environment, not to push politics or green idiolatry but because they find nature fascinating or are working to improve poor land for better use, etc.
It is activists who are the “enemies of the earth.”
FYI, a podiatrist (originally wrote pedologist, too funny in context) corrected my ingrown toenail. Removed a sliver and killed the cells that produce that portion. Minor in-office surgery.
(Rocket Scientist/Engineer)
Sparta,
Yes, I have met people who call themselves “environmental scientists” or “climate scientists”. If I have to add a descriptor, I am a “hard scientist”.
I find it amusing that some researchers delve into environmental improvement. I have forever regarded tasks like that as a part of grown-up Life, the sort of thing that is always in mind when doing science. I take it for granted not to harm the environment, like having a podiatrist cut my toe nails, not something one needs to write papers about.
Here is a thought. Are authors of “environmental science” guilty of some transgressions of their own that did harm the environment ( whatever that can mean, short of “anything”)?
Are they doing penance for their own bad past acts? It has always seemed strange to me that people have to cut out “care for the environment” as a cause, like a drover cutting out sick cattle from the herd. In so many cases, nature is strong and in control compared to the puny acts of common people. There is a type of saintly smell about expressing concern for the environment, when for some of us it is as natural as breathing.
Geoff S
I learned environmental science growing up with farming. The original settlers didn’t cut trees for fun, neither do current farmers. No one eradicates simple wildlife for fun, only in the cases where it is detrimental, like with squirrels. You learn to leave strips around a field for quail and pheasant. You let plum thickets grow in water ways to stop topsoil loss and provide cover for small animals.
Lot’s of little things like bugs and their predators. Risks of planting too soon. Crop rotation. When to cut hay.
As more and more people have no clue about farms and agriculture, they are vulnerable to activists telling them untruths about the environment. One of those things is that harvesting is killing for no good reason!
My friend, I can add nothing to your comments.
Cheers!
She is finally realizing the extreme cost of Europe’s folly and the impact that Europe’s actions have not reduced global emissions, but merely shifted them from Europe to China and Russia.
Sometimes it takes years to deprogram a brainwashed individual.
That she accomplished this by herself gives a spark of hope for the future.
I think one of the tragedies of the whole emphasis on CO2 is how it diverts attention from actual threats and issues. This article sort of skirts near one of them in the section on adaption: I speak of a simple math problem: the world cannot forever expand energy use by 2% a year. This is double in a half century and 7 times in a century, and fairly quickly to absurd levels. I don’t propose any centralized “solution”. What I am talking about is that the strange belief that we can “control” the climate, for the better even, by some central political control diverts resources such as academic thinkers, entrepreneurs, philosophers, scientists etc. etc. from thinking about “how to live well on less energy”. My phrase “live well on less energy” is my attempt to state the hope in as open a manner as possible without implying any particular “solution.”
In the long term planning, those kinds of issue need to be addressed.
In the short term, no radical changes are needed and most have severe negative consequences.
I am surprised no one has pushed forward a plan to move the entire population underground and turn the entire planet into a park. 🙂
Or perhaps –
“live well on less expensive & unreliable energy”
Nuclear
In other words, moving pollution from Western nations to China and India.
How much have we read on site about the environmentalists wanting other to sacrifice but not themselves! It isn’t the oil producers and those that use it to make products, it is the end user that controls what products are made and used. Yet the politicians know that if they were to push stopping clothing from synthetic fibers, making boats from fiberglass, glasses with plastic frames, etc. they would never be elected. So instead of making non-voters (businesses) pay the price they limit the damage.
A refocusing on consumption enables/rationalizes far more totalitarian control of all aspects of society . I see her proposal as strategic correction irrespective of any possible sincerity .
But people could also see the totalitarian power structure needed to control consumption. At least those in countries where votes are meaningful would be able to control how much totalitarian edicts would survive. I think some EU countries are beginning to reach that point and not just on climate.
What global problem?
There seem to be a number of critical misconceptions apparent by the author.
Some are somewhat trivial like writing about
environmentalism when really climate alarmism was discussed and
talking about climate changes, when the topic in question really is about the antropogenic contribution to global warming.
The later seems something which confuses several writers here continuously.
The attempt to “distract that there was very limited success narrowing the uncertainties about antropogenic global warming by changing the name and don’t talk about it” should not be tolerated.
We can have a discussion about uncertainties of climate changes once the human contribution to global warming is known otherwise we end up with a unsolvable complex problem and anyone promising easy answers is a charlatan.
Which leaves me to discuss the biggest problem of these writings.
Since CMIP6 models we know for sure without any doubt that older models were lacking in science and resolution and both matters.
So any past claim of a measure to address some atmospheric CO2 effect needs to reflect that (and I am not saying CMIP6 are valid models.. it seems that even the upcoming CMIP7 models fail to address the fact that the earth is oblate and model solids like dusg or ice in the atmosphere with required precision.)
In truth some politicians made some demands and decisions with huge implications on local and global economics without any scientific base!
+100
The entire essay is a litany of rational insanity.
Serious people dressed in business suits engaged in grave conversations about the politics of nothing.
Dr Eija-Riitta Korhola: “Yet, regarding the final goal, it sets the objective of limiting the global average temperature increase to well below 2°C or even 1.5°C in a context where we have no idea what coupling to global temperatures CO2 actually has.”
They didn’t even know whether there was a problem. They knew they didn’t know. And yet, they entered grave negotiations that caused governments to impose policies that took lives, ruined livelihoods, despoiled landscapes, and literally wrecked entire economies (all the while lining the pockets of the already rich).
Dr Eija-Riitta Korhola appears upset only about the confusions caused by the chaos of green NGO villains.
She doesn’t seem to have grasped that the entire basis of her motivations is a conscious fraud, Timothy Wirth-style. One meant only to produce a cudgel for use against civilization itself.
Each journey begins with a first step.
One can hope her next step may lead her to see the light.
It’s a half-full/half-empty kind of day.
Well, the coupling idea is clear from a the single paper which showed that the atmospheric carbon dioxide level followed the oceanic temperature with a significant time lag.
First, global warming then rising CO2, global cooling then falling CO2
That is a very clear idea based upon data.
This is a realistic assessment of the whole climate narrative since no one is going to force the really big emitters to take any emissions-reduction actions that will impede their economies.
“Which endangers our security more, climate change or
currentany climate policy?”The most important question. Global climate is changing so little and so slowly that adaptation to that modest change has always been the best policy, as humans have demonstrated over the last few thousand years through warm periods (Roman Warm Period, Medieval Warm Period) and cool periods (Little Ice Age). They didn’t need government to tax them and try to appease the climate gods by wasting money on the governing elites’ favored parasites.
One climate policy that augments securing is get the “F” out of trying to micromanage the climate.
The basic issue with politicians/UN committees thinking they can run the World:
“nobody anticipated”
bites them in the a$$ every after every World-changing decision
All policy makers should be made to swear aloud everyday that all policies must be titled and referred to in exact and correct language. In this case every gathering should be reminded every time that the issue is CO2 being added to the atmosphere and whether that can cause catastrophic runaway global warming. That is the issue not climate change or climate disruption or global warming or any of the other nonsense being thrown around for the last three decades.