Mythbusting Rahmstorf and Foster

Rahmstorf et al (2012) Insist on Prolonging a Myth about El Niño and La Niña

Guest post by Bob Tisdale

Anthony Watts of WattsUpWithThat forwarded a link to a newly published peer-reviewed paper by Stefan Rahmstorf, Grant Foster (aka Tamino of the blog OpenMind) and Anny Cazenave. Thanks, Anthony. The title of the paper is Comparing climate projections to observations up to 2011. My Figure 1 is Figure 1 from Rahmostorf et al (2012).

The authors of the paper have elected to prolong on the often-portrayed myth about El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO):

Global temperature data can be adjusted for solar variations, volcanic aerosols and ENSO using multivariate correlation analysis…

With respect to ENSO, that, of course, is nonsense.

Figure 1

The Rahmstorf et al (2012) text for Figure 1 reads:

Figure 1. Observed annual global temperature, unadjusted (pink) and adjusted for short-term variations due to solar variability, volcanoes and ENSO (red) as in Foster and Rahmstorf (2011). 12-months running averages are shown as well as linear trend lines, and compared to the scenarios of the IPCC (blue range and lines from the third assessment, green from the fourth assessment report). Projections are aligned in the graph so that they start (in 1990 and 2000, respectively) on the linear trend line of the (adjusted) observational data.

INITIAL NOTE

Under the heading of “2. Global temperature evolution”, in the first paragraph, Rahmstorf et al (2012) write:

To compare global temperature data to projections, we need to consider that IPCC projections do not attempt to predict the effect of solar variability, or specific sequences of either volcanic eruptions or El Niño events. Solar and volcanic forcing are routinely included only in ‘historic’ simulations for the past climate evolution but not for the future, while El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) is included as a stochastic process where the timing of specific warm or cool phases is random and averages out over the ensemble of projection models. Therefore, model-data comparisons either need to account for the short-term variability due to these natural factors as an added quasi-random uncertainty, or the specific short-term variability needs to be removed from the observational data before comparison. Since the latter approach allows a more stringent comparison it is adopted here.

In the first sentence in the above quote, Rahmstorf et al (2012) forgot to mention that the climate models used in the IPCC projections simulate ENSO so poorly that the authors of Guilyardi et al (2009) Understanding El Niño in Ocean-Atmosphere General Circulation Models: progress and challenges noted:

Because ENSO is the dominant mode of climate variability at interannual time scales, the lack of consistency in the model predictions of the response of ENSO to global warming currently limits our confidence in using these predictions to address adaptive societal concerns, such as regional impacts or extremes (Joseph and Nigam 2006; Power et al. 2006).

Refer to my post Guilyardi et al (2009) “Understanding El Niño in Ocean-Atmosphere General Circulation Models: progress and challenges”, which introduces that paper. That paper was discussed in much more detail in Chapter 5.8 Scientific Studies of the IPCC’s Climate Models Reveal How Poorly the Models Simulate ENSO Processes of my book Who Turned on the Heat?

THE MYTH CONTINUED

The second paragraph of Rahmstorf et al (2012) under that heading of “2. Global temperature evolution” reads:

Global temperature data can be adjusted for solar variations, volcanic aerosols and ENSO using multivariate correlation analysis (Foster and Rahmstorf 2011, Lean and Rind 2008, 2009, Schönwiese et al2010), since independent data series for these factors exist. We here use the data adjusted with the method exactly as described in Foster and Rahmstorf, but using data until the end of 2011. The contributions of all three factors to global temperature were estimated by linear correlation with the multivariate El Niño index for ENSO, aerosol optical thickness data for volcanic activity and total solar irradiance data for solar variability (optical thickness data for the year 2011 were not yet available, but since no major volcanic eruption occurred in 2011 we assumed zero volcanic forcing). These contributions were computed separately for each of the five available global (land and ocean) temperature data series (including both satellite and surface measurements) and subtracted. The five thus adjusted data sets were averaged in order to avoid any discussion of what is ‘the best’ data set; in any case the differences between the individual series are small (Foster and Rahmstorf 2011). We show this average as a 12-months running mean in figure 1, together with the unadjusted data (likewise as average over the five available data series). Comparing adjusted with unadjusted data shows how the adjustment largely removes e.g. the cold phase in 1992/1993 following the Pinatubo eruption, the exceptionally high 1998 temperature maximum related to the preceding extreme El Niño event, and La Niña-related cold in 2008 and 2011.

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REMOVE THE EFFECTS OF ENSO IN THAT FASHION

Rahmstorf et al (2012) assume the effects of La Niñas on global surface temperatures are the proportional to the effects of El Niño events. They are not. Anyone who is capable of reading a graph can see and understand this.

But first: For 33% of the surface area of the global oceans, the East Pacific Ocean (90S-90N, 180-80W), it may be possible to remove much of the linear effects of ENSO from the sea surface temperature record, because the East Pacific Ocean mimics the ENSO index (NINO3.4 sea surface temperature anomalies). See Figure 2. But note how the East Pacific Ocean has not warmed significantly in 30+ years.  A linear trend of 0.007 deg C/decade is basically flat.

Figure 2

However, for the other 67% of the surface area of the global oceans, the Atlantic, Indian and West Pacific Oceans (90S-90N, 80W-180), which we’ll call the Rest of the World, the sea surface temperature anomalies do not mimic the ENSO index. We can see this by detrending the Rest-of-the-World data. Refer to Figure 3. Note how the Rest-of-the-World sea surface temperature anomalies diverge from the ENSO index during four periods. The two divergences highlighted in green are caused by the volcanic eruptions of El Chichon in 1982 and Mount Pinatubo in 1991. Rahmstorf et al (2012) are likely successful at removing most of the effects of those volcanic eruptions, using an aerosol optical depth dataset. But they have not accounted for and cannot account for the divergences highlighted in brown.

Figure 3

Those two divergences are referred to in Trenberth et al (2002) Evolution of El Nino–Southern Oscillation and global atmospheric surface temperatures as ENSO residuals. Trenberth et al write:

Although it is possible to use regression to eliminate the linear portion of the global mean temperature signal associated with ENSO, the processes that contribute regionally to the global mean differ considerably, and the linear approach likely leaves an ENSO residual.

Again, the divergences in Figure 3 shown in brown are those ENSO residuals. They result because the naturally created warm water released from below the surface of the West Pacific Warm Pool by the El Niño events of 1986/87/88 and 1997/98 are not “consumed” by those El Niño events. In other words, there’s warm water left over from those El Niño events and that leftover warm water directly impacts the sea surface temperatures of the East Indian and West Pacific Oceans, preventing them from cooling during the trailing La Niñas. The leftover warm water, tending to initially accumulate in the South Pacific Convergence Zone (SPCZ) and in the Kuroshio-Oyashio Extension (KOE), also counteracts the indirect (teleconnection) impacts of the La Niña events on remote areas, like land surface temperatures and the sea surface temperatures of the North Atlantic. See the detrended sea surface temperature anomalies for the North Atlantic, Figure 4, which show the same ENSO-related divergences even though the North Atlantic data is isolated from the tropical Pacific Ocean and, therefore, not directly impacted by the ENSO events.

Figure 4

There’s something blatantly obvious in the graph of the detrended Rest-of-the-World sea surface temperature anomalies (Figure 3): If the Rest-of-the-World data responded proportionally during the 1988/89 and 1998-2001 La Niña events, the Rest-of-the-World data would appear similar to the East Pacific data (Figure 2) and would have no warming trend.

Because those divergences exist—that is, because the Rest-of-the-World data does not cool proportionally during those La Niña events—the Rest-of-the-World data acquires a warming trend, as shown in Figure 5. In other words, the warming trend, the appearance of upward shifts, is caused by the failure of the Rest-of-the-World sea surface temperature anomalies to cool proportionally during those La Niña events.

Figure 5

I find it difficult to believe that something so obvious is simply overlooked by climate scientists and those who peer review papers such as Rahmstorf (2012).  Some readers might think the authors are intentionally being misleading.

FURTHER INFORMATION

The natural processes that cause the global oceans to warm were described in the Part 1 of YouTube video series “The Natural Warming of the Global Oceans”. It also describes and illustrates the impacts of ENSO on Ocean Heat Content for the tropical Pacific and the tropics as a whole.

Part 2 provides further explanation of the natural warming of the Ocean Heat Content and details the problems associated with Ocean Heat Content data in general. Part 2 should be viewed after Part 1.

And, of course, the natural processes that cause the oceans to warm were detailed with numerous datasets in my recently published ebook. It’s titled Who Turned on the Heat? with the subtitle The Unsuspected Global Warming Culprit, El Niño Southern Oscillation. It is intended for persons (with or without technical backgrounds) interested in learning about El Niño and La Niña events and in understanding the natural causes of the warming of our global oceans for the past 30 years. Because land surface air temperatures simply exaggerate the natural warming of the global oceans over annual and multidecadal time periods, the vast majority of the warming taking place on land is natural as well. The book is the product of years of research of the satellite-era sea surface temperature data that’s available to the public via the internet. It presents how the data accounts for its warming—and there are no indications the warming was caused by manmade greenhouse gases. None at all.

Who Turned on the Heat? was introduced in the blog post Everything You Every Wanted to Know about El Niño and La Niña… …Well Just about Everything. The Updated Free Preview includes the Table of Contents; the Introduction; the beginning of Section 1, with the cartoon-like illustrations; the discussion About the Cover; and the Closing. The book was updated recently to correct a few typos.

Please buy a copy. (Credit/Debit Card through PayPal. You do NOT need to open a PayPal account.). It’s only US$8.00.

CLOSING

Rahmstorf et al (2012) begin their Conclusions with:

In conclusion, the rise in CO2 concentration and global temperature has continued to closely match the projections over the past five years…

As discussed and illustrated above, ENSO is a process that cannot be removed simply from the global surface temperature record as Rahmstorf et al (2012) have attempted to do. The sea surface temperature records contradict the findings of Rahmstorf et al (2012). There is no evidence of a CO2-driven anthropogenic global warming component in the satellite-era sea surface temperature records. Each time climate scientists (and statisticians) attempt to continue this myth, they lose more and more…and more…credibility. Of course, that’s a choice they’ve clearly made.

And as long as papers such as Rahmstorf et al (2012) continue to pass through peer review and find publication, I will be more than happy to repeat my message about their blatantly obvious failings.

SOURCE

The Sea Surface Temperature anomaly data used in this post is available through the NOAA NOMADS website:

http://nomad1.ncep.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/pdisp_sst.sh

or:

http://nomad3.ncep.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/pdisp_sst.sh?lite=

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Richard Tol is not impressed:

#Doha: Sea levels to rise by more than 1m by 2100 http://t.co/h2cNEMo7 Rahmstorff strikes again with his subpar statistics

http://twitter.com/RichardTol/status/273691430101323776

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trafamadore
November 29, 2012 9:32 pm

trafamadore says: “Data only matters when it’s published.”
and to that D Böehm says,”What?? You prissy, testosterone-deficient academic. Data is data! Clearly, you do not understand that fact. Go back to your tenure-protected ivory tower, jamoke. This here is the real world.”
Like really? In the real tenure-protected ivory tower world we publish. I can read stuff published hundreds of years ago…
And tenure-protected ivory tower academics…and your descendants…will be able to read my testosterone-deficient stuff hundreds of years from now, if AGW hasnt upset things too much.
Stuff not published? Vaporization. Especially with the heat expected…

Mughal
November 29, 2012 9:37 pm

D Böehm: So you agree the sea continues to rise.
Why? Where is this oceanic warming coming from (my original question)?

John F. Hultquist
November 29, 2012 9:49 pm

Many years ago people working on science, especially math, problems did not publish. Rather they would challenge others to public contests, each submitting problems for the other. Knowing something others did not could lead to embarrassment for your rivals. To try to keep that from happening to the CAGW-Team they invented a “pal review”, “editor intimidation”, and “never debate” protocol. The internet and blogs have made a shambles of that strategy. It has famously been said when your hypothesis does not agree with the data, you are wrong. CAGW is wrong.

Werner Brozek
November 29, 2012 9:56 pm

Mughal says:
November 29, 2012 at 7:56 pm
mpainter says:
“The last warming trend ended before this century began.”
Really? Then please explain the measured ocean warming:
http://sealevel.colorado.edu/content/world-ocean-heat-content-and-thermosteric-sea-level-change-0-2000-1955-2010

There has been no change in sea surface temperatures since March 1997 or 15 years, 8 months (goes to October). See the graph below to prove it. Note that this graph has not been peer reviewed. It is merely plotted data with a best fit line. I also realize that you talked about deeper levels of the ocean warming. My response is that even if this were true, why should that concern us? We can burn fossil fuels for a long time if the deeper ocean took all the heat and warmed from 3.0 C to 3.2 C.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1997.1/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1997.1/trend

trafamadore
November 29, 2012 10:09 pm

mpainter says: “Many in the warmist camp refer to the process of peer review as you do, as a sort of imprimature or certification of validity,and that papers that lack such a certification are unworthy of consideration. This assumption is gross error, as peer review is no certification of the validity of the study. Furthermore, many worthy papers are given at science colloquiums and conferences.”
Maybe. There are bad papers out there, and we do often wonder how some papers got through review. But in my experience, those are the minority and they end up being poorly cited papers, so they get justice in the end. (You can go to “web of science” to look at the citation index for individual papers, but I think you need a subscription.)
First you are right many worthy papers (Mine for example!!) are given at science colloquiums and conferences. But they dont get attention in Nature until they are published normally. But you should know, many many shoddy papers are given at science colloquiums and conferences. (Not mine for sure!!) By the time they see print, they are certainly less shoddy.
Peer review = quality control. It’s not perfect, even Honda and Toyotas have defects. But peer review, its pretty good. And it’s all we got. No one has better idea how to do it at the moment, but you can put your ideas in the little suggestion box at your workplace.

Werner Brozek
November 29, 2012 10:17 pm

trafamadore says:
November 29, 2012 at 7:01 pm
Just some friendly advice:
You would do well to read the list of names of people who signed the “An open letter to the U.N from climate skeptic”s

Nick Kermode
November 29, 2012 10:22 pm

Hi Bob, I read your link and have read other recent papers on those lines. As far as I can tell all the processes there are transfers of energy between ocean currents and atmosphere as would be expected given thermodynamic laws. It does explain how ENSO exists and how the energy in the system is shifted, localised/concentrated etc during the events. Winds, currents etc etc do not explain the OHC increases and they certainly dont create heat. Transfer yes.
The key here is the quote you choose to support your idea. It says “build up” of heat which IS NOT the same as creating it. Wind heating the ocean is not creating energy, it is transferring it or containing it. If put a heater on in a room and put a fan facing into the room near the doorway heat will build up in that room. Conversely if I put the fan near the heater facing out the doorway the heat will be distributed throughout the house. The wind from the fan is not creating energy but can cause it to build up. To create an upwards trend in the temperature of the room for both fan positions you have to add more heat. So the energy that has raised the SSTs must come from outside the system. Your link, and quote do not disprove the second law. Thanks for your reply.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
November 29, 2012 10:35 pm

Dear Moderators, can you please check something?
This is regards to trafamadore on November 29, 2012 at 8:37 pm.
After several days and many comments on several threads, after trying to boost his flagging credibility by claiming he’s a scientist teaching undergrads, now suddenly, between just this comment and his 8:16PM comment, he has miraculously discovered apostrophes and their use in contractions.
I cannot believe this is the same person. It must be at least two who have switched places for their haranguing duties.
Can you check ISP’s and whatever else you do, and see if it is more than one person?
Note: Those who will not use apostrophes, had best not be wont to look smart as they won’t.

mpainter
November 29, 2012 11:36 pm

Trafamadore
What fun you are! Please allow me to doctor you for confusion.
Concerning temperatures in Texas for the past century,there has been no trend- a flat curve. If you compensate for the UHE, you get a slight cooling trend. How about that!
Concerning snow in Buffalo, surely you don’t expect to ever run out of that. A warmer Lake Erie will mean more snow, if I am not mistaken about the lake effect. So relax, ski away, and try not to get angry because a warmer world is a better world.
And believe me, if you hang around the wrong publications, you can get misled. Proof is in the pudding- as when you say that the globe is still warming.
Because I show awareness that the world food requirements will be dire in the future, do you suggest that I have my head in the sand? Tsk, tsk, poor fellow, such confusion.
And of course the oceans are alkaline with no possibility of becoming acid. You are not so confused that you tried to rebut that. So there is hope for you. But you must stay away from those peer reviewed climate articles if you wish to improve.

mpainter
November 30, 2012 12:01 am

Well, Mughal, where are you? Off somewhere, ignoring data that you don’t like?

Editor
November 30, 2012 2:09 am

Nick Kermode says: “Hi Bob, I read your link and have read other recent papers on those lines. As far as I can tell all the processes there are transfers of energy between ocean currents and atmosphere as would be expected given thermodynamic laws. It does explain how ENSO exists and how the energy in the system is shifted, localised/concentrated etc during the events. Winds, currents etc etc do not explain the OHC increases and they certainly dont create heat.”
In my last reply to you, did you somehow miss the discussion about trade winds, cloud cover, downward shortwave radiation, and ocean heat content? During a La Nina, trade winds are stronger than normal. The stronger trade winds reduce cloud cover, which, in turn, allows more downward shortwave radiation to enter and warm the tropical Pacific.
You continue to express your lack of understandings of ENSO basics. Let me guess, you must be a climate modeler. They also don’t understand ENSO basics.
If you’re having trouble comprehending my explanation because it’s so simple, Nick, refer to Pavlakis et al (2008) paper “ENSO Surface Shortwave Radiation Forcing over the Tropical Pacific.”
http://www.atmos-chem-phys-discuss.net/8/6697/2008/acpd-8-6697-2008-print.pdf
Note the inverse relationship between downward shortwave radiation and the sea surface temperature anomalies of the NINO3.4 region in their Figure 6.
To complement that, here’s a graph to show the interrelationship between the sea surface temperature anomalies of the NINO3.4 region and cloud cover for the regions presented by Pavlakis et al:
http://i47.tinypic.com/35jfs7a.jpg
With your newfound knowledge of ENSO, maybe you’ll now understand why the long-term warming of the Ocean Heat Content for the tropical Pacific was caused by the 3-year La Nina events and the unusual 1995/96 La Nina:
http://i47.tinypic.com/2uianx2.jpg
During the multidecadal periods between the three 3-year La Nina events, tropical Pacific Ocean Heat Content actually cools, Nick:
http://i49.tinypic.com/dcd7k0.jpg
Where’s the effect of CO2 between the 3-year La Nina events, Nick?
For years, oceanographers and physicists have been saying that infrared radiation from CO2 only causes the oceans to evaporate a little more water, Nick. Sure does look like they’re correct. There is nothing in the satellite-era sea surface temperature data or the ocean heat content data that indicates manmade CO2 was responsible for the warming.
Have a nice day.

Editor
November 30, 2012 2:24 am

trafamadore says: “Data only matters when it’s published.”
The data is published, trafamadore. In fact, the general public can have access to NOAA’s Reynolds OI.v2 sea surface temperature data at the NOAA NOMADS website here:
http://nomad1.ncep.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/pdisp_sst.sh
The general public has access to the NODC ocean heat content through the KNMI Climate Explorer here:
http://climexp.knmi.nl/selectfield_obs.cgi?someone@somewhere
If, trafamadore, in that quote you’re saying data only matters when it’s presented in peer-reviewed papers, then your comments have reached laughable level.

phlogiston
November 30, 2012 2:54 am

There is enough heat capacity in the ocean for changes in upwelling, downwelling and currents to cause, in principle, both warming and cooling of climate WITHOUT ANY CHANGE IN TOTAL HEAT. Thus the repeatedly asked question “where is the heat coming or going” is a deeply ignorant one.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
November 30, 2012 3:24 am

mpainter asked on November 30, 2012 at 12:01 am:
Well, Mughal, where are you? Off somewhere, ignoring data that you don’t like?
He was last sighted getting in a “last word” at the old Heartland Institute thread, ostensibly asking DirkH a question two weeks after the thread was otherwise forgotten.
I saw it pop up in “Recent Comments”, went to look, haven’t re-closed that tab yet.

richardscourtney
November 30, 2012 4:16 am

trafamadore:
At November 29, 2012 at 3:32 pm I asked you – and I boldened the question so you could not miss it – this question

Do you have anything to say in defence of the nonsense by Rahmstorf and Foster or is your snowstorm of strawmen – notably your unjustified attack on Bob Tisdale – the only response you can muster to the criticisms of that paper?

Since then you have continued to snow the thread with irrelevant and untrue nonsense but
you have failed to reply to the question.
This is a clear demonstration by you that you have no answer to Tisdale’s fundamental and valid criticisms of the paper by Rahmstorf and Foster.

You are now completely lacking any credibility and the only way you could recover some is for you – for the first time – to address the subject of this thread instead of deflecting from that subject with your bafflegab.
Richard

trafamadore
November 30, 2012 4:42 am

Bob Tisdale says: “The data is published, trafamadore. In fact, the general public can have access to NOAA’s Reynolds OI.v2 sea surface temperature data at the NOAA NOMADS website”
Yeah, I was wondering when someone would mention that, and also when I would accidentally say “data”. It’s the same in the biology world, with the all the genomes in various stages of disrepair. In biology, they are usually accompanied by a published article that no one reads in Nature that has hundreds of names on it.
While you are correct the data is on the web in unreviewed form for many years and peer reviewed articles are published with that data, I think we can say the data are not a hypotheses (but not always, gene homology for example). Usually when papers are based on web data, at least one reviewer is familiar with the web data, and we get through it. In the long run, bad web data is probably no worse than experiments with other less than prefect tools.
Inanycase, your stuff is not data and I didnt mean to call it that, it is an unreviewed manuscript containing unreviewed hypotheses, like any unreviewed manuscript.
kadaka (KD Knoebel) says: “Dear Moderators, can you please check something?”
Very funny. Dont you have something else to do? be warned sometimes i dont even cap or anything

richardscourtney
November 30, 2012 4:55 am

trafamadore:
At November 29, 2012 at 10:09 pm you assert

Peer review = quality control. It’s not perfect, even Honda and Toyotas have defects. But peer review, its pretty good. And it’s all we got. No one has better idea how to do it at the moment, but you can put your ideas in the little suggestion box at your workplace.

NO!
Peer review does NOT equal quality control except of the most basic kind.
Peer review is a protection for journal Editors.
Reviewers assess a paper for logical inconsistencies, erroneous citations and methodological errors. Hence, an Editor gains some protection from publishing a paper which is so wrong as to be risible.
Importantly, an Editor may choose to not put a paper to peer review if he/she perceives that its contents will be blocked by the vested interests of a powerful consensus group. For example, knowing there was such a prejudice of all potential reviewers, the then Editor of Nature published two papers by an incompetent patents clerk without putting the papers to peer review. Those papers on relativity by Albert Einstein initiated a revolution in physics.
Publishing those papers without peer review gave Nature a degree of credibility as a scientific journal on which it relies to this day.
And peer review prior to publication does not – and cannot – provide a published paper with credibility. Only subsequent detailed consideration and replication of the work can do that.
This is demonstrated by a paper which was not put to peer review, was authored by two bicycle salesman, and was published in a magazine about bee-keeping. It was the seminal work on aeronautics by Orville & Wilbur Wright.
The value of that paper is demonstrated by the existence of the aviation industry and not by who wrote it, where they published it, and its lack of peer review.
Reading your posts in this thread, I am caused to wonder if you understand anything about epistemology and the scientific method.
Richard

Kristian
November 30, 2012 5:13 am

Nick Kermode says:
November 29, 2012 at 10:22 pm
– – –
Wow! Just … wow.

Kristian
November 30, 2012 5:17 am

Bob Tisdale says:
November 30, 2012 at 2:09 am
– – –
You’re being too kind. This is a person who’s clearly not here to ‘get your point’.

trafamadore
November 30, 2012 5:20 am

Werner Brozek says: “There has been no change in sea surface temperatures since March 1997 or 15 years, 8 months (goes to October)”
Wasn’t there an blog post here on cherry picking time intervals for an Escalator or something?
But I hadn’t seen that wood for trees web site, it’s cool. Thanks. Look at my plot:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1970/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1970/trend
thanks for the paper Mughal.

mpainter
November 30, 2012 6:05 am

Kermode, Trafamadore, whomever else
The peer review process regarding climate studies is somewhat discredited. Time and again climate studies are shown to be in error, after publication. Peer review among “climate scientists” is faulty because the reviewer all too often shares an ideological commitment with the authors. Such a commitment stymies objective critique. This is lack of objective critique from peers has hurt the field of climate study. For example, for decades many paleo-climate studies were based on tree rings,which proxy has been thoroughly discredited and is being abandoned. For confirmation of this, see Jim Bouldin of RealClimate. The net result is that decades of studies and hundreds of works now have to be discarded. And for decades progress in understanding climate processes has been held back because of this polluting science. It is all due to faulty, uncritical peer review. This faulty peer review is insidious and works in other ways. Worthy climate studies sometimes have difficuly getting getting published. Such eminent scientists as Roger Pielke, Sr. and Roy Spencer have encountered what amounts to prejudice in this regard. It is all due to the displacement of science by ideology. You two bloggers are good examples of this.
Bob Tisdale is justified in publishing his paper himself. His intention not to advance an ideology but to inform and instruct. His work does so commendably, but some choose not to understand the charts. Or maybe they can’t.

richardscourtney
November 30, 2012 6:06 am

trafamadore:
This thread is about the clear failings of the ludicrous paper by Rahmstorf and Foster.
At November 29, 2012 at 3:32 pm I asked you a question – and I boldened it so you could not miss it – and I repeated the question at November 30, 2012 at 4:16 am.
I again remind that the question is

Do you have anything to say in defence of the nonsense by Rahmstorf and Foster or is your snowstorm of strawmen – notably your unjustified attack on Bob Tisdale – the only response you can muster to the criticisms of that paper?

If you persist in your trolling of this thread then I will persist in posting the question so onlookers are reminded that you are unable to answer the criticisms of the paper by Rahmstorf and Foster.
Stop disrupting the thread: answer the question or go away.
Richard

richardscourtney
November 30, 2012 6:27 am

trafamadore:
I read your post at November 30, 2012 at 5:20 am which replies to Werner Brozek saying

There has been no change in sea surface temperatures since March 1997 or 15 years, 8 months (goes to October)

He provided this plot which shows the fact
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1997.1/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1997.1/trend
Your reply says

Wasn’t there an blog post here on cherry picking time intervals for an Escalator or something?
But I hadn’t seen that wood for trees web site, it’s cool. Thanks. Look at my plot:
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1970/plot/hadsst2gl/from:1970/trend

Your plot shows that Werner Brozek is right, and your cherry-picking does not change that.
Werner Brozek shows sea surface temperatures have a slightly negative trend for nearly 16 years and NOAA says 15 years provides a statistically significant trend.
Your plot runs from 1970 and you are suggesting Werner Brozek is being misleading. LOL.
A person aged 30 stopped growing at age 18 but your plot is like claiming he is still growing because the trend of his height from age one is positive.
Your post is merely another example of your trolling this thread because you don’t like it being pointed out that the paper by Rahmstorf and Foster is rubbish.
I yet again ask you to answer the question

Do you have anything to say in defence of the nonsense by Rahmstorf and Foster or is your snowstorm of strawmen – notably your unjustified attack on Bob Tisdale – the only response you can muster to the criticisms of that paper?

Richard

mpainter
November 30, 2012 8:34 am

Trafamadore, I copy you
“Does peer-reviewed literature tell your doctor that a new drug has come out that might save someone close to you? Tsk, tsk, poor, misled fellow. Dont do it! Quickly, stick your head in the sand because the death of someone close to you is natural.”
Now, I know that you meant nothing by this, but a friendly word of advice: people have been known to turn something like this into a death threat. You really can’t be too careful about this sort of thing. Recall the notorious incident in Australia wherein a death threat was fabricated on a pretext less than this and taken up by the media, all for the purpose of smearing a skeptic. Now skeptics do not resort to such tactics, so you are safe on this blog. But be careful when you are dealing with the global warmers, especially Australians, who are an especially virulent type.