There was so much quotable material flying around this week due to Hurricane Sandy, I could probably have a QOTW every day. But I thought this one was particularly well done:
It is true that Sandy was a human-caused disaster. We build cities on the coast. We don’t adequately protect them. We don’t heed evacuation warnings. That is where the blame lies for this one, not climate change.
See Eric Berger’s SciGuy column in the Houston Chronicle:
There will probably be fewer Sandy-like storms in the future
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Did anyone read the ridiculous post he linked to at the bottom? The one by someone called David Roberts? This guy is decrying when sensible people tell the alarmists not to get their panties in a wad and say that everything is caused by global warming. He calls them “scolds.”
Are not all these things dishonest? So basically he’s saying that you should allow people to spew dishonest alarmism without calling them on it, because there’s a war on, dammit!
I’m from Houston and Eric Berger is a fervent CAGW believer. He’s just a somewhat honest one. You can get that if you read the whole post. At one point he says that strong storms WILL increase, just not till the end of the century. So, basically, global warming isn’t causing stronger storms YET.
You should see the ridiculousness he posted after climategate….
Almost all of the power outages affecting millions of people most fundamentally came from one simple fact: not burying power lines underground unlike what is already done anyway for pipes. IIRC, there were 100000+ downed power lines reportedly, such as trees falling over and bringing them down. Changing pre-existing infrastructure could be far more expensive than worthwhile, but this kind of power disruption is avoidable in principle if any localities ever really strongly desired to prevent it.
i live very near to the LA River, which is totally canalized, but which could still theoretically flood out.
fortunately, i live on the uphill side, so all the rest of The Valley would have to flood, like totally, for me to be in it, for sure. %-)
Not exactly:
@Red Seewun: Thanks for the morning chuckle. That was good. Like, for sure.
Roger Knights: In a bit of pro-active CYA, he or TPTB commissioned the following 2011 study, which frowns on preventative measures, because they provide “a false sense of security” (because they can’t protect against the worstest case) and thus amount to “disaster by design.” Instead, low-lying New York should pick up and move, reverting their spaces back to parkland. Dig it:
By that logic, we shouldn’t require cars to have seatbelts, buildings to have fire extinguishers or fire escapes, etc., etc.—Roger Knights
”Abound” is a giveaway that the authors’ hearts are imbued with warmist alrmism. This report’s recommendations (mostly “move”) are largely based on accepting warmist projections of a 1-meter sea level rise by 2100. Further, based on nature of the the paragraph that sneeringly rejected “Regional Mega-Engineering,” I suspect that this report’s recommendations reflect current environmentalism’s knee-jerk rejection of man’s large-scale defiance of nature in the form of levees, surge barriers, etc.—i.e., a belief that such a stance is never justified and amounts to an affront to Gaia. The Dutch have told “mother nature” where to get off, and we should too, in this instance. (“This I know—Mother Nature is a maniac.”—Laurence Janifer, epigraph to You Sane Men.)—Roger Knights
Isn’t it backwards to say “climate change causes a change in the weather”? Surely it’s a consistent, systematic change in one’s weather that shows your climate is changing. It’s like claiming a full glass of water caused your faucet to turn on.
If one’s climate already includes things like nor’easters and hurricanes, does a change in frequency or intensity really qualify as climate change? I’d think we’d reserve that nomenclature for say, if the Northeast US went from four seasons to a seasonal monsoon, or to a desert arid climate. Is a bit more rain and wind really “climate change”?
@Bertram Felden says: November 4, 2012 at 1:44 am
Be careful with rationality or hyper-rationality, after all cAGW is perfectly rational but it’s not proven by science. The theory of relativity was very irrational when it was postulated yet it was true. Only a closed mind judges the unknown as irrational.
Tewkesbury in England has been flooded recently in 2007 and 2012. The Abbey which is probably more than 500 years old can be seen to be located on a small mound which is not flooded. Obviously the builders of the Abbey realised the dangers of flooding and built on safe ground.
http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/pictures/Aerials-Tewkesbury-flooding/pictures-15960348-detail/pictures.html