This statement was issued today from the IPCC, which appears to be inspired by the recent claims of Dr. Michael Mann in the lawsuit against NRO that we discussed here and here. The colored bold text in the paragraph below is my emphasis, otherwise it is presented as it was released. A source link to the original press release follows.
Reviewing what has transpired for Dr. Mann recently, this quote comes to mind:
A mann’s GOT to know his limitations – Harry Calahan, Magnum Force
– Anthony
2012/12/ST
IPCC STATEMENT
Statement about the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize
The IPCC was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007 for its work on climate change, together with former US Vice-‐President Al Gore.
In its citation, the Norwegian Nobel Committee said that the IPCC and Mr Gore shared the prize “for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-‐made climate change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change”. In its announcement the Norwegian Nobel Committee stated that through the scientific reports it had issued over the past two decades, the IPCC had created an ever-‐broader informed consensus about the connection between human activities and global warming, and that thousands of scientists and officials from over one hundred countries had collaborated to achieve greater certainty as to the scale of the warming.
The prize was awarded at the end of the year that saw the IPCC bring out its Fourth Assessment Report (AR4).
The prize was awarded to the IPCC as an organization, and not to any individual associated with the IPCC. Thus it is incorrect to refer to any IPCC official, or scientist who worked on IPCC reports, as a Nobel laureate or Nobel Prize winner. It would be correct to describe a scientist who was involved with AR4 or earlier IPCC reports in this way: “X contributed to the reports of the IPCC, which was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007.”
The IPCC leadership agreed to present personalized certificates “for contributing to the award of the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 to the IPCC” to scientists that had contributed substantially to the preparation of IPCC reports. Such certificates, which feature a copy of the Nobel Peace Prize diploma, were sent to coordinating lead authors, lead authors, review editors, Bureau members, staff of the technical support units and staff of the secretariat from the IPCC’s inception in 1988 until the award of the prize in 2007. The IPCC has not sent such certificates to contributing authors, expert reviewers and focal points.
For more information contact:
IPCC Press Office, Email: ipcc-‐media@wmo.int
Source: http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/nobel/Nobel_statement_final.pdf
h/t to Chris Horner
UPDATE: Dr. Mann posted on his Facebook page today this scan of a letter from the IPCC dated October 30th:
The press release from the IPCC was authored on October 29th according to the document properties in the PDF file. There is no hint in Dr. Mann’s Facebook page statement today of any apology or walkback for Dr. Mann claiming to have been “awarded the Nobel Peace Prize” and that on the NRO lawsuit complaint itself NRO was accused of the hitherto unknown crime of “defamation of a Nobel prize recipient.”
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Didn’t Mann share his Nobel Prize with John Christy: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2007/11/01/u-n-scientist-rejects-nobel-prize-share-denounces-alarmism?
@ttfn i didn’t make myself clear enough. I don’t think that it’s ‘everything’ in the sense that it will be a point the case hinges upon but rather in the face of a claim that it’s ‘nothing’, it will in fact be quite something because it is testimony to establishing reputation so it should play a part in the case rather than be dismissed as mere semantics which i suspect will be Mann’s direction.
reading Copner’s comments in full above I see that I’m in agreement with him as to the reason for this release but I was not aware of the comments in Mann’s book regarding Christopher Monkton.
Those very comments make it abundantly clear that Mann knew full well that it was wrong to make any claims regarding receiving a Nobel prize by any individual associated with the IPCC regarding the 2007 award.
What needs to be done is that all references and archives where Mann or organisations Mann is associated with made specific claims to Mann being a Nobel laureate or received a shared Nobel prize, are collected, screen-capped and made available to the NRO before they all disappear and are replaced with the new ‘contributed to the award of’ weasel-words.
This can be added to the statement in the particulars of claim which I expect will be attributed to some over-zealous intern no longer with the firm or some other such ruse but Mann will be distanced from those claims by his lawyers..
zootcadillac wrote:
Not so fast zoot.
The post-scrubbed Michael Mann
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Michael Mann’s bio at RealClimate now mentions this:
Whereas previous versions archived at the Wayback machine (the last being taken on 1 July 2010) make no mention of the prize.
http://web.archive.org/web/20110701200607/http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/michael-mann/
His personal page at Penn State has identical wording to that now on RealClimate
The page provides a link to his C.V. which contains similar:
As does the PDF copy
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/Mann/about/cv/cv_pdf.pdf
And the bits he missed
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I think that mention of the Nobel Prize on Mann’s RealClimate page and elsewhere has been added to lend credence to the idea that he only presented himself as a “contributor” to and not as a winner or recipient of the Nobel Prize.
But his scrubbing was incomplete. In a current link to an HTML version of his C.V. Mann describes himself as being “co-awarded” the Nobel Peace Prize.
That page is not yet archived but there are several archived copies of yet a third description (again with “co-awarded”).
When the craving began
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Even before the award ceremony (and long before the IPCC issued their ’employee of the month’ type slap-on-the backs) members of “the team” were trying to get their hands on copies of the Nobel certificate -presumably for the walls of their offices.
Email from Phil Jones to Michael Mann:
Anthony writes “There is no hint in Dr. Mann’s Facebook page statement today of any apology or walkback for Dr. Mann claiming to have been “awarded the Nobel Peace Prize” and that on the NRO lawsuit complaint itself NRO was accused of the hitherto unknown crime of “defamation of a Nobel prize recipient.””
And why would he? In Mann’s mind he was an important enough part of the award to claim it as his own and I’m sure he doesn’t think other important AR4 people also should think of it as theirs.too. The thing is though, this is Mann’s MO. Just a stretch of the truth as he sees it. No biggie.
Where he crosses the line is that he has no problem tailoring papers to more effectively show what he wants them to show and in doing so, he has no problem ignoring or even hiding results that dispute his desired result. Papers to Mann are less about unbiased science and more about convincing debate.
Does that mean that my BS, MS, and MA degrees are “shared” by those who contributed towards it? What about the honors stuff, like the Phi Beta Kappa? Logically, that should be “shared” by all my professors. Not to mention my parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc. Just trying to follow the new post-normal rules here.
re Pat:
quote ” It is estimated that one hundred to two hundred Australians received such Citations…”.
With mathematical addition skills like that, it’s no wonder all I can do is laugh at them.
Can’t count, can’t be bothered trying, I’ll just pull a figure out of here *ouch*….
Good work David Ross. That’s exactly the information that needs to be protected should the NRO defence need to rely upon it.
the definition if is is …………..LOOK A SQUIRREL
“I can’t help but wonder: Given this statement and the statements of the Nobel Committee, and given that Mann has claimed to be a Nobel Laureate in sworn legal documents, what is the likelihood of perjury charges being brought?”
I can’t help wondering how the world manages to get itself out of bed in the morning. Is it that we don’t use our God given brains, or is it that our brains just aren’t as good as we think they are. All a roundabout way of saying… this is just one big fat dumb question.
Why does it still claim on Kevin Trenberth’s cv he is a Nobel Laureate? Scroll down to awards section. “Nobel Laureate (shared) for Nobel Peace Prize 2007 (as part of IPCC) Oct 2007”
http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/Trenberth/trenberth-cv.html
has anyone posted this? what is “four generations”?
Stephen H. Schneider Biography
He along with four generations of IPCC authors received a collective Nobel Peace Prize for their joint efforts in 2007.
http://www.amazon.com/Stephen-H.-Schneider/e/B001K8IXWS/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_0
Hubris knows no bounds.
According to this IPCC letter, Michael Mann can honestly claim that he was awarded a copy of the Nobel Peace Prize… diploma.
Mann is convinced that he’s enough of a Nobel Peace Prize winner that it’s acceptable for him to continue to claim it – even in legal documents. This is an incredibly strange thing for a scientists – that are usually superlatively adept at grasping black and white technicalities such as this.
The same disconnect seems to be responsible for his refusal to understand the problems with his work.
Overall, I don’t think he has the aptitude to be a scientist.
tallbloke says:
November 2, 2012 at 4:43 pm
Don M says:
November 2, 2012 at 3:06 pm
As a karate expert…
Careful, Mann’s got a black belt in Origami, and an Olympic medal to prove it.
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Careful, that was the Olympic Peace Committee – it’s a different organization than…
Pokerguy writes: “I can’t help wondering how the world manages to get itself out of bed in the morning.”
How does Mann even deal with his ego-driven ‘morning wood’ that must surely be stimulated by dreaming of himself all night long?
For R Christ, Your unprecedented IPCC letter of 2012/12/ST headed ‘Statement about the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize’ is in clear contradiction of my robust understanding of the intent of those awarding the Nobel peace price and I demand its immediate retraction. If you let the statement stand as written, it will cause argument and financial loss, which are inversely related to the objectives of a ‘Peace’ prize.
I will draft a statement for you that properly reflects my understanding of the intentions of the Nobel committee. You should print the corrected version within 5 days and ensure that it is sent to all IPCC coordinating lead authors, lead authors, review editors, Bureau members, staff of the technical support units and staff of the secretariat from the IPCC’s inception in 1988 until the award of the prize in 2007.
I shall need at least 500 free personal copies so I can autograph and sell them on eBay. MM
Mann is no Dr. Fautus. Marlowe’s tragic hero image do not work in the mythos that Mann self-created.
John
Like John West above, I see that Dr Andrew Weaver likes to be ambiguous with who won the prize also.
When he speaks at Universities they often call him a Nobel Laureate and news media calls him that. He might say it’s not his fault they make the mistake but he should make them correct that.
From one of his book covers from Amazon:
“Dr. Andrew J. Weaver, Canada’s top climate scientist, is professor and Research Chair in climate modeling and analysis at the University of Victoria. He was a lead author in the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, co-recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007.”
I see he is going to run for the Green party in British Columbia. I do give him credit for running. If these highly political scientists act like politicians then they should put up and run for office. (but I would never vote for him)
Feb 2011: ABC: Climate expert says more extreme weather likely
Nobel prize-winning scientist David Karoly says Australia’s current extreme weather is strong evidence of climate change…
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-12-31/climate-expert-says-more-extreme-weather-likely/1891882
cute, tho to be fair, Flannery does not make this claim himself, not for a Nobel Prize nor a Nobel Peace Prize:
Wiki Answers: Did Tim flannery win the nobel prize?
Answer: Yes
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_Tim_flannery_win_the_nobel_prize
Mike IS the IPCC, even if he has to redefine what a Nobel Prize Laureate is.
It was the IPCC wot done it
In Michael Mann’s latest Facebook entry he claims that it was a letter from the IPCC that led him astray.
Apart from portraying the IPCC authors as sheep who blindly follow each others lead, the statement is false. The letter from the IPCC is dated 30 Oct 2012. Yet at least as far back as May 11 2011 Mann’s C.V. claimed that he had been “co-awarded” the prize.
Another version of his C.V., which is impossible to date, inflates his part even more.
http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/Mann/about/cv/cv_hyper.htm
It is impossible to date not just because it has not been archived -it also appears to contain an element of prophecy.
Re:
The proper terminology to describe Michael Mann is confused and mendacious.
David Ross… don’t think MM can touch webarchive.org, but may be mistaken.
We’ve made copies, just in case.
Luther Wu wrote:
Thanks Luther. People can ask for entries that infringe copyright to be removed from Wayback but (as so often happens) the system is often abused.
But there are other archives and Webcite.
Mann’s “Co-awarded (with other IPCC report authors)” C.V. webcited (before it gets scrubbed.
http://www.webcitation.org/6Bt8XtGxQ
And Trenberth’s “Nobel Laureate (shared) for Nobel Peace Prize 2007 (as part of IPCC)” C.V. webcited
http://www.webcitation.org/6Bt9VLo0N
h/t julianbre