The IPCC weighs in on the Mann Nobel dilemma, and throws him under the bus

This statement was issued today from the IPCC, which appears to be inspired by the recent claims of Dr. Michael Mann in the lawsuit against NRO that we discussed here and here. The colored bold text in the paragraph below is my emphasis, otherwise it is presented as it was released. A source link to the original press release follows.

Reviewing what has transpired for Dr. Mann recently, this quote comes to mind:

A mann’s GOT to know his limitations – Harry Calahan, Magnum Force

– Anthony

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2012/12/ST

IPCC STATEMENT

Statement about the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize

The IPCC was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007 for its work on climate change, together with  former  US  Vice-­‐President Al Gore.

In its citation, the Norwegian Nobel Committee said that the IPCC and Mr Gore shared the prize  “for their efforts to build up and disseminate greater knowledge about man-­‐made climate  change, and to lay the foundations for the measures that are needed to counteract such change”. In its announcement the Norwegian Nobel Committee stated that through the scientific reports it  had issued over the past two decades, the IPCC had created an ever-­‐broader informed consensus  about the connection between human activities and global warming, and that thousands of  scientists and officials from over one hundred countries had collaborated to achieve greater  certainty  as  to  the  scale  of  the  warming.

The prize was awarded at the end of the year that saw the IPCC bring out its Fourth Assessment Report  (AR4).

The prize was awarded to the IPCC as an organization, and not to any individual associated with the IPCC. Thus it is incorrect to refer to any IPCC official, or scientist who worked on IPCC reports, as a Nobel laureate or Nobel Prize winner. It would be correct to describe a scientist who was involved with AR4 or earlier IPCC reports in this way: “X contributed to the reports of  the  IPCC,  which  was  awarded  the  Nobel  Peace  Prize  in  2007.”

The IPCC leadership agreed to present personalized certificates “for contributing to the award of  the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 to the IPCC” to scientists that had contributed substantially to the  preparation of IPCC reports. Such certificates, which feature a copy of the Nobel Peace Prize  diploma, were sent to coordinating lead authors, lead authors, review editors, Bureau members,  staff of the technical support units and staff of the secretariat from the IPCC’s inception in 1988 until the award of the prize in 2007. The IPCC has not sent such certificates to contributing authors,  expert  reviewers  and  focal  points.

For  more  information  contact:

IPCC  Press  Office,  Email:  ipcc-­‐media@wmo.int

Source: http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/nobel/Nobel_statement_final.pdf

h/t to Chris Horner

UPDATE:  Dr. Mann posted on his Facebook page today this scan of a letter from the IPCC dated October 30th:

The press release from the IPCC was authored on October 29th according to the document properties in the PDF file. There is no hint in Dr. Mann’s Facebook page statement today of any apology or walkback for Dr. Mann claiming to have been “awarded the Nobel Peace Prize” and that on the NRO lawsuit complaint itself NRO was accused of the hitherto unknown crime of “defamation of a Nobel prize recipient.”

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GlynnMhor

In contrast to Dirty Harry’s boss, Mann is unlikely to be blown to bits…
REPLY: Nor would we want him to be. He’s the climate skeptic’s best weapon – Anthony

Jeremy

The entire IPCC team of fraudsters just got pwned

Kev-in-Uk

Didn’t Pachauri claim Nobel prize winning status?

Michael Mann tweeted at 1.30pm a link to a photo on his Facebook page
“On the IPCC’s Nobel Prize Guidance [facebookurl]”
Here is the page
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=441602745895933&set=a.221233134599563.54502.221222081267335&type=1
As you will see it is a letter from the IPCC, confirming that they really did issue a certificate to Dr Mann.
Here is the associated text written by Mann when posting the image to Facebook:
On the IPCC’s Nobel Prize Guidance
There has been some confusion with respect to the proper terminology to be used in connection with the contributions to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that resulted in the award of the Nobel Peace Prize to that organization. I am writing to try to clear up that confusion.
After the receipt of the award, the IPCC sent certificates to coordinatin
g lead authors, lead authors, review editors, and IPCC staff congratulating them for “contributing to the award of the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 to the IPCC.” A number of IPCC authors, including myself, understood from this commendation that it was appropriate to state that we either “shared” or were a “co-recipient” of the award.
To clarify the proper terminology to be used, IPCC has issued guidance regarding the matter (see letter above and also this statement by the IPCC: http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/nobel/Nobel_statement_final.pdf ). I also understand that the Norwegian Nobel Institute’s director, Geir Lundestad, has confirmed that the IPCC’s guidance is correct. Needless to say, I couldn’t be prouder of our contribution and the recognition that the IPCC received for its work.

Kev-in-Uk

re: Pachauri – here’s an example – though to be fair, its possibly the media that get it wrong some of the time!
http://www.wec.org/news/nobel-laureate-r-k-pachauri-discussed-key-climate-change-issues-at-wec-forum

J Martin

“…were sent to coordinating lead authors, lead authors, review editors, Bureau members, staff of the technical support units and staff of the secretariat from the IPCC’s inception in 1988 until the award of the prize in 2007. The IPCC has not sent such certificates to contributing authors, expert reviewers and focal points.”
Which of the above categories does Mann come under.?

TonyG

I can’t help but wonder: Given this statement and the statements of the Nobel Committee, and given that Mann has claimed to be a Nobel Laureate in sworn legal documents, what is the likelihood of perjury charges being brought?

Don M

As a karate expert…

Kev: here’s Yale Environment360 claiming the untrue: http://e360.yale.edu/feature/a_conversation_with_nobel_prize_winner_rajendra_pachauri/2006/
Google has 68,000 mentions of Pachauri as Nobel Prize Winner. I guess once the Untrue takes hold, it’s hard not to be swamped by it.

Disko Troop

I don’t suppose Mann has gained many friends over this little debacle. Quite a few of his team mates are going to have to change their CV’s and drop some of their more outlandish claims to sainthood. Even Trenberth might have to drop from distinquished senior climate scientist back down to a mere climate journeyman.
Ivor Ward

A. Scott

Dang, that’s gonna leave a mark … 😉

WOW !!
Just the fact that the IPCC would even concern themselves with this says a lot !!

John West

Mann’s not the only one:
“He was a lead author of the 1995, 2001 and 2007 Scientific Assessment of Climate Change reports from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), and shared the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize which went to the IPCC.”
http://www.cgd.ucar.edu/cas/trenbert.html

Who wrote this??? “Monckton’s assertions aren’t confined to science; he has even claimed, falsely, to have won the Nobel Prize.”
Did anybody guess Michael E. Mann (Chapter 5 of his book)???

Mpaul

The important question is — did the IPCC advise Mann not to call himself a Nobel Prize winner prior to Mann filing the false claim with the court? Does anyone have evidence of this?

Actually, about Pachauri at least, there might be a case of misleading advertising: http://www.apbspeakers.com/speaker/rajendra-pachauri

“…were sent to coordinating lead authors, lead authors, review editors, Bureau members, staff of the technical support units and staff of the secretariat from the IPCC’s inception in 1988 until the award of the prize in 2007. The IPCC has not sent such certificates to contributing authors, expert reviewers and focal points.”
This is most likely a carefully walked line aimed at supporting Mann, well sort of, while still condemning Monckton.
The points are:
1. Mann’s defense, is “my certificate is genuine, really from the IPCC”. Of course this was never the issue, but it plays on the fact that some people initially thought Mann had made his own certificate as well as claiming to be a Nobel prize winner. So this statement from the IPCC, and the other statement on Mann’s website from the IPCC, support this defense – “look Mann’s certificate is genuine!”.
2. In Mann’s book (chapter 5), Mann condemns Monckton’s joke (without mentioning it was a joke) claim to a share of the Nobel prize. Again these statements support Mann’s condemnation, sort of, because Mann was a lead author (therefore got a certificate), whereas Monckton was a reviewer (therefore did not get a certificate).

Finally, Pachauri’s TERI’s website has at least three pages where he is described as the winner of the Nobel Peace Prize.
REPLY: Well, he did stand on the stage and accept the medal alongside Gore…so in his mind he surely believes it to be true for him. – Anthony

Mpaul

I can see Mike’s point, it’s just simple confusion over the exact terminology to use. For instance on my resume, I could claim that I am a former astronaut. I could also claim: “I once met an astronaut”. These things are just nuances of terminology and in the absence of guidance, how’s a guy to know how to properly state it?

The wheels on the bus go thump thump thump…

Lance Wallace

Would have been nice if the IPCC had documented the number of certificates awarded. Were Mann and Trenberth within a group of 100 or perhaps 1000 others?

Auto

Rule One of Holes – for the kind attenton of Dr. M. Mann:
When you find yourself in a hole – stop digging.

J Martin

copner said on November 2, 2012 at 3:03 pm
“Michael Mann tweeted at 1.30pm a link to a photo on his Facebook page
As you will see it is a letter from the IPCC, confirming that they really did issue a certificate to Dr Mann.
Here is the associated text written by Mann when posting the image to Facebook: I also understand that the Norwegian Nobel Institute’s director, Geir Lundestad, has confirmed that the IPCC’s guidance is correct. Needless to say, I couldn’t be prouder of our contribution and the recognition that the IPCC received for its work.”
———————————————————
A clever bit of spin by Mann, but transparent nonetheless. Mann is really going for broke. I can’t see any Judge agreeing with Mann’s view of this. Lundestad clearly said something quite different to what Mann implies he said.
Didn’t Mann have a similar dispute with a newspaper a while ago, claiming the newspaper had said one thing when in fact the newspaper had said the opposite. Anyone remember where that was and got a link to it ?

John West

The gift that keeps on giving:
“Nobel Peace Prize-sharing climate scientist Andrew Weaver”
http://metronews.ca/news/vancouver/377266/nobel-winning-climate-scientist-andrew-weaver-to-run-for-b-c-greens/

Jenn Oates

This, my friends, is a prime example of how to double down on stupid. He’s gonna ride that horse all the way to perdition, isn’t he?

John West

LOL
“Nobel Prize-winning climate scientist Andrew Weaver

Gunga Din

First Briffa, now the IPCC. How many buses can one guy take?

Njorway

I think he is going to sue them…

son of mulder

It’s all just so post normal!

Chuck

If it wasn’t already clear, this episode should make it clear that Mann’s tremendous ego makes it impossible for him to admit that he’s wrong about anything. We should not ever expect to see such an admission.

Kaboom

For anyone wondering about the ‘perjury” issue, it is categorically not perjury to knowingly or inadvertently make a mis-statement of fact in a Statement of Claim. It may be professional misconduct for the lawyer endorsing the claim (particularly where the lawyer was aware of the deliberate false statement), but for the claimant himself it cannot be perjury, because in most jurisdictions, the Statement of Claim is not sworn evidence on oath, it merely constitutes allegations of fact.
I am in fact quite free to commence a law suit alleging that One Direction gang-raped my Labrador, and impregrated her with doggy hybrids.
Likely to cost me a bit, though….

So Mann has a certificate for “contributing to the award of the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 to the IPCC.” Since the Nobel Committee made that award, is the IPCC saying that recipients of their little piece of paper contributed to the work of that committee?

J Broadbent

The “Certificate” was awarded by Christ.
– Renate Christ
Does this trump a Nobel Prize awarded by the same committee who awarded Arafat and Obama?

R. Shearer

I attended a talk by Susan Solomon in which she was introduced as a Nobel Prize winner.
http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/susan-solomon/Content?oid=2610340

John West

It’s not limited to the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize, the 1985 Peace Prize was also awarded to an organization, yet:
“Nobel Laureate Explores Links Between Climate Change, Biodiversity

” Medical doctor Eric Chivian who shared the 1985 Nobel Peace Prize for spotlighting the effects of a nuclear war on global health.”
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/environment/july-dec09/biodiversity_12-18.html?print
The Nobel Peace Prize 1985
International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/1985/physicians.html

I personally can see this as being a clarification that Mann or his lawyers have asked for. Now that he has airbrushed from the internet all previous claims that he personally made or were made by someone on his behalf, of being awarded the nobel prize or having been awarded a share of the prize I think that will be his defence when it’s brought up.
“see judge? It’s quite simple. This is what I meant and the IPCC have clearly explained that I’m quite right to say that I contributed. Nothing to see, let’s move on.”
It will be a travesty if the missing references can’t be found. It’s the act of disingenuously claiming to be a prize winner for years even after it being made clear that this was not the case. ( they were discussing it on his wiki talk page over a year ago and there is the supposed advice from Pachauri that no member could make this claim ).
It is this deception that must be exposed in court because it speaks to the integrity of the man, the hubris and willingness to embellish his credentials so as to present a reputation that simply did not exist in the real world.
I don’t see this as Mann going under the bus I see it as the IPCC going as far as they dare to provide him with support.
Mann’s people will say it’s nothing. I still think that it’s everything.

pat

this says it is estimated between one and two hundred aussies and 28 new zealanders received the citation!
JewishHistoryAustralia: Australian Jewish Nobel Prize Winners and New Zealand Jewish Nobel Laureates
The Citation which the IPCC presented to Dr (Tom) Beer to mark his participation in the award is below…
The International Panelon Climate Change, the IPCC, presented like Citations to all who contributed to preparation of the studies for which the IPCC gained the Nobel Peace Price 2007, whether they be lead authors, referees, or served as panelists. It is estimated that one hundred to two hundred Australians received such Citations, a number of whom would be Jewish…
However, with the award of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), a further 28 New Zealanders achieved the status of Nobel Laureates as recipients of a “shared” Nobel Prize…
The IPCC acknowledged the outstanding contribution to the Award of the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize of the New Zealand climate scientist Dr Jim Salinger…
http://jewishhistoryaustralia.net/jha/Nobel.php

JJ

Mpaul says:
The important question is — did the IPCC advise Mann not to call himself a Nobel Prize winner prior to Mann filing the false claim with the court?

No, that is not an important question at all.
IPCC does not award Nobel Prizes. Their guidance is irrelevant. The Noble Committee awards Nobel Prizes. It is the Nobel Committe’s guidance that matters here, and they have been telling people who weren’t awarded a Nobel Prize to not claim they were awarded a Nobel Prize long before Michael Mann was not awarded one.
The distribution of certificates by IPCC is hilarious. The criterion for receiving a certificate is given as: “for contributing to the award of the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 to the IPCC”.
Explicitly denied such certificates are: “contributing authors”.
Apparently, a contribution is certified as contributory, except when it is contributed by a contributor.

Don M says:
November 2, 2012 at 3:06 pm
As a karate expert…

Careful, Mann’s got a black belt in Origami, and an Olympic medal to prove it.

ttfn

zootcadillac says:
November 2, 2012 at 4:22 pm
“Mann’s people will say it’s nothing. I still think that it’s everything.”
I don’t think it’s everything. This isn’t Perry Mason or My Cousin Vinny. Most cases are decided by a thousand small cuts. Mann suffered his first small cut before the ink was dry on the complaint. Not a good sign. The high bar he has to get over just got a little bit higher. I’m sure he’ll do better once he gets on the stand and has less time to think.

theduke

JeanS over at CA says Mann attacked Monckton in his book for falsely claiming to be a Nobel recipient:
http://climateaudit.org/2012/11/01/olympic-mann-2/#comment-368749

Dr Burns

Kev-in-UK,
Yes.
“25 Jun 2011,20:40 IST
RK Pachauri, the Nobel laureate was present in the city today. ”
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/topic/Rajendra-Pachauri

Luther Wu

“…It seems Ive spent too long
Only thinking about myself – oh…”
lyrics from: Genesis- In Too Deep

A triple travesty: a fake scientists makes a fake claim to have received a fake prize.
Any honorable, decent human being would have rejected the Nobel Peace Prize.
Being remembered in Arafat’s company? Unthinkable. Unless you are the Piltdown Mann.

Mpaul

JJ, Mann’s lawyers are facing a potential misconduct charge. It would appear that they simply accepted Mann’s claim at face value and failed to check its factual basis.
So I’m curious to know whether Mann knowingly misrepresented his status to his lawyers, or can he claim to be a victim of confusing communication by the IPCC (which is his current defense).
There’s a assertion out there that the IPCC sent a notice to contributors awhile back (long before the lawsuit) that they should not claim to be prize winners. I’d like to know if this is true.

Slabadang

Thrown under the bus!
That makes Mann a road kill?

John Whitman says:
November 2, 2012 at 4:32 pm
. . . Here is Clint saying it
[bad link?]

– – – – – – – –
Well that link was odd.
Let’s try Clint’s famous ‘limitations’ quote in this link:

John

Athelstan.

Yeah and something else, he ain’t never gonna get one of them darn awards from Norwegian cowboys not now, not ever and ain’t it the truth.
Still, there’s always Mike’s statistical method to fall back on and peer review – can have its own rewards.
When are Penn State going to rumble this guy? More importantly, just when are the US government going to say, “enough is enough” and cease forthwith; all and any state funding to this climatological dream works?

DaveA

It’s gonna be awkward when Mann and Al Gore next meet up.