Wow, it doesn’t get much uglier than this. In my opinion, this is hate speech. Steve Zwick writes in his Forbes column:
We know who the active denialists are – not the people who buy the lies, mind you, but the people who create the lies. Let’s start keeping track of them now, and when the famines come, let’s make them pay. Let’s let their houses burn. Let’s swap their safe land for submerged islands. Let’s force them to bear the cost of rising food prices.
They broke the climate. Why should the rest of us have to pay for it?
People who doubt the magnitude of CO2/AGW driven climate change broke the climate?
I suppose then that Mr. Zwick has never driven a car, never taken an airplane trip, never heated or cooled his home, never bought products produced overseas and shipped here, never grilled at a BBQ, or never used electricity to power his computer to write his litany of hate for Forbes. No, he’s apparently not used any CO2 producing modern convenience at all, which is why he bizarrely believes he has some sort of moral high ground.
His hypocrisy is beyond description. His full essay is here.
For those who wish to complain about his hate speech against fellow Americans, see the Forbes Contact page here.
As for his points about the Yale poll trying to make us all fear the weather as some human caused machination of climate, read this.
UPDATE: Warren Meyer offers a thoughtful rebuttal in Forbes here
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I totally agree. Lets start bombing China right away!!
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That guy needs to calm down and stop being such a hater. I mean, really, who would want to kill someone who didn’t agree with them? /sarc
This is the first widely published admission by the Cultists that their Cult is purely religious.
Previously, at least in public, they tried to pretend that they were arguing against ACTIONS. Zwick comes right out and says that heretical THOUGHTS are sinful and need to be wiped from the earth.
Forbes was once a serious publication.
“but the people who create the lies. Let’s start keeping track of them now, and when the famines come, let’s make them pay. Let’s let their houses burn. ”
Whilst Jones, Mann, Hansen, Briffa, et al have sold their integrity to the highest bidder, I certainly think this is going too far as an act of retribution
Pity this tool. He’s lost his soul.The indoctrination is complete. I want to ask him when his wife, daughters and or nieces have scheduled their sterilization procedures . Him and his sons and nephews will need vasectomies. Are these procedures in the works or is this man just a programmed hippocrat?
” Let’s swap their safe land for submerged islands. Let’s force them to bear the cost of rising food prices.”
OK, I can live with that so long as he is prepared to take on my part of the $100bn PER YEAR climate fund taxation and increasing food, fuel, energy (and everything) costs in the years while I’m waiting for a submerged island to come up for swaps.
Let the warmists “bear the cost” of their stupidity rather than the rest of us. That may sober up their thought processes a bit.
theowolfe says:
April 20, 2012 at 2:16 am
“As a regular visitor to this site I am surprised and disappointed to see you encouraging people to complain about Zwick in an effort to curtail free speech.”
As a regular visitor to this site I’d like to encourage all warmists to become as openly lunatic as Zwick. Zwick, Gleick, Franny Armstrong’s 10:10 campaign, all of that works in our favor. And I’d like to have more wacked-out ethicists like Liao. Priceless.
“I think that is more disgraceful than anything Zwick said.”
Oh, I think your sense of proportion is so damaged you might be the next one going on an apocalyptic tirade. Just go ahead.
“Environmentalism has become a global ideology that covers all of existence—not merely modes of production but ways of life as well. We rediscover in it the whole range of Marxist rhetoric, now applied to the environment: ubiquitous scientism, horrifying visions of reality, even admonitions to the guilty parties who misunderstand those who wish them well. Authors, journalists, politicians, and scientists compete in the portrayal of abomination and claim for themselves a hyper-lucidity: they alone see clearly while others vegetate in the darkness….One consequence of this certainty is that we begin to suspect that the numberless Cassandras who prophesy all around us do not intend to warn us so much as to condemn us. In classical Judaism, the prophet sought to give new life to God’s cause against kings and the powerful. In Christianity, millenarian movements embodied a hope for justice against a Church wallowing in luxury and vice. But in a secular society, a prophet has no function other than indignation. So it happens that he becomes intoxicated with his own words and claims a legitimacy with no basis, calling down the destruction that he pretends to warn against. You’ll get what you’ve got coming!—that is the death wish that our misanthropes address to us. These are not great souls who alert us to troubles but tiny minds who wish us suffering if we have the presumption to refuse to listen to them. Catastrophe is not their fear but their joy. It is a short distance from lucidity to bitterness, from prediction to anathema.”
Full article here: http://www.city-journal.org/2012/22_2_apocalyptic-daze.html
This article is written from a sociological perspective.
It opened my eyes.
Quote from Anthony:
“I suppose then that Mr. Zwick has never driven a car, never taken an airplane trip, never heated or cooled his home, never bought products produced overseas and shipped here, never grilled at a BBQ, or never used electricity to power his computer…”
Anthony you left out one other human activity that creates CO2… [SNIP: We are not going there. Leave that sort of fantasy to Zwick, et al. -REP]
Zweick is simply showing the irrational face of AGW extremists. And there are many, many extremists.
Rob Roy, your classical reference is backward. Cassandra was a seeress whose prophecies were never believed but always turned out to be correct, to the ruin of the disbelievers. The global warmers are prophets whose prophecies are always believed and always wrong.
Dirk, there’s no need to encourage them. As a religious cause fails, its defenders always become more shrill and hysterical. It usually comes to a bad end. Look up Savonarola.
Politicians can’t even question climate science so we are a long way off from a meaningful debate on this issue. Leaving people like Zwick alone only helps the cause.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04/19/wildrose-leader-booed-during-alberta-leaders-debate-for-doubting-climate-change-science/
Poor, poor Zwick. Climate hysteria has apparently broken his brain. Perhaps he can sue those pushing the CAGW propaganda for the psychiatric treatment and drug therapy he will inevitably require.
I broke the climate? OH MY GOD!!! I BROKE THE CLIMATE!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH….
Thanks Anthony for tracking such abuses. I mean, really thanks. By using WUWT and your freedom in this way you’re making a major contribution to preserving it for all.
Ironic it’s “they” who broke the climate, not the man who’s own bio points out that he jets back and forth between homes in Germany and the US.
But then, we all knew without looking that Steve Zwick would be a world class hypocrite. They ALL are.
Thanks so much for info. And for the humor.
I’m not a scientist, but I like to read here, even when I don’t completely understand the technical data. A major problem, in my opinion, is what someone called Zwick–the “conduit.” Americans are getting some of the messaging from the realist camp, but frankly, when you write about climate change for a general news site, you learn a few things. Even if you write a balanced, non-polemic, it’s not likely news aggregators will pick up the story. The lid is so tight on the messaging that I’ve often wondered if some of the reporters and editors are (as in the 1970s when government placed individuals at certain mags, etc.) being paid to advocate.
The other thing you learn is that while Main Street may fume about the taxes and the “skyrocketing” electricity rates, Main Street has yet to fully connect the CAGW policies to the negative financial impact.
The other thing you learn is that we’ve come full circle.A sizable segment of the academic world (not just in physical science) is returning to animism based on consensus science. As a poet, I may infer the soul of the tree. As a realist who grew up in a rural area where people grew what we ate (in spite of an often wicked Mother Nature), I saw a wide range of fluctuations in weather. I think there’s a serious disconnect between many of these academics and the real natural world. best to all, KBD
Something smellsa. A fireman writing a column for Forbes Magazine? I don’t mean that in an elitist way – but it does seem a bit out of place… doesn’t it? But then no – what better role model in post- 911 America to build a sense of trust with his audience? For a propagandist wishing to push a “cause” – might be a very useful mouthpiece. It all seems just a little contrived. Thing is, if Steve Zwick is just the mouthpiece, who’s writing the script?
Hmmm. I thought that magazine was all about the people who create jobs. Apparently not anymore. This Forbes “journalist” wants all the jobs to go away. I’m sure advertisers will like that.
Severian says:
April 19, 2012 at 3:40 pm
Hmmmm…from looking at him and Mann and Hansen I had a revelation, baldness causes global warming.
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Whoa! Hold on there! Think this through! It’s like CO2 increases raising temperatures. One scientist here (on WUWT) commented about the last (slight) cooling phase of 1940 – 1975 as being “back when I had hair.”
I had hair back then, too. There’s your evidence! Global warming causes baldness—not the other way round.
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Clearly, shining craniums increase the Earth’s albedo. This may cause a negative feedback to CO2 forcings. This may have caused the temperature to remain constant over the last decade.This feedback was not included in the IPCC models. It’s absence explains why the IPCC temperature forecasts are consistently higher than reality.
(Man, has this website made me smart or what?)
Zwick is insane, he should bne arrested for inciting murder.
CSG, It’s a quote, can’t change it. I see your point though. “Would-be Cassandras” perhaps.
Do read the article . He nails down this ilk of doomsday prophesisors.
Last year, we had an election here in Ontario, Canada. Our Liberal premier (like a state govenor) has drank the green koolaid and pretty much everything out of his mouth is something to do with green: power, jobs, etc. He closed our coal-fired plants, and sure enough, our power rates are going up in May. Oh well.
One of the most craven political things he did during the election was cancel a gas-powered plant (see above re: closing coal) in a riding (i.e., electoral district) that he needed to win. He did pick up those seats, so it must have worked.
At the time, I asked one of his supporters: “should we just route the brown- and blackouts through these towns now? Seems fair, they should pay first…”. No response, obviously. There never is.
BTW, I grew up in Northern Ontario, and a company wants to put a new hydro-electric dam in a pretty, touristy area. I don’t have to tell you the opposition has been fierce. But, as with the Kennedys fighting wind turbines off Kennebunkport, the fight is being led by the same people who demand clean energy. Do they EVER smell the hypocrisy?
“If these hypocrites lived in sustainable mud huts and rode to work on horse driven carts and made their own clothes and used the services of the local witch doctor or the power of prayer when illness strikes, if they shunned all the luxuries of the industrial world then I might listen…”
If they lived like that they wouldn’t have prosperity and time in theirs lives to even thinking about anything other than survival. It is the prosperity, polution, industry, technology that makes possible for them to indulge in this fraudulent scheme.