I’ve been getting a lot of pressure to cover the story by warmspinner Richard Black over at the BBC about a supposed feedback between Arctic sea ice and colder, snowier, winters in the UK and the EU. For example, WUWT “elftone” says:
Richard Black of the BBC – despite getting his head handed to him on a platter twice recently – is spinning like crazy about snowy winters. The cause is shrinking arctic ice. No, really :). I’m amazed he’s able to stand:
I’ve been resisting covering this for a little bit, because I knew sooner or later some MSM media fool would mangle this story into something unrecognizable (they always do). I was right, and the result is the most hilarious global warming headline ever:
They really have lost the plot, haven’t they?
After a few hours, probably responding to people calling up the newsroom and laughing uncontrollably, some editor changed the headline to read “Melting Arctic causes snowier winters in Europe, the US “.
The Internet though, has a memory for such things. The original link was: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/global-warming-is-making-the-world-colder/story-e6frea8l-1226283672088?from=public_rss
But if you click on that you get the revised headline with revised URL.
It is still cached in some places, like this law blog: http://legalnews.findlaw.com/article/0dc48OwedZ44D?q=NASA
UPDATE: I’ve posted the Georgia Tech press release on the science here. While the idea posited isn’t totally implausible, I need to see more examples to be convinced. – Anthony
Standard doublethink.
Like that “climate change” doesn’t just mean variations over time in the weather (well, duh!,) but it also means political change using climate guilt as a hook.
I notice on the NSIDC website that all causes of sea ice loss are stated as fact, when it comes to atmosphere temps it says ‘likely’
to me “likely” is the Legal bods saying you can get away with writing this without being sued for making a false statement.
Carlsberg had to resort to “Probably” the finest lager, meaningless but gets across the right message for the gullible.
“Dr Len Shaffrey, University of Reading: “This is very early days for this research””
You would think that would prevent them from saying silly things until the money runs out.
Its was rerun here in Australia on the abc, from the skit, it take it they claimed, the ice melted, the air then cooled, which pushed the “jetstream” south, thus allowing siberian winds to head over England and make snow.
I believe they tried something similar not long ago, exept it was the “gulf stream” that would be stopped by the cold, fresh water moving south, thus the lower air would cool and cause mini ice age.
Oh and then there is the one that Europe is going to freeze all the way down to North Africa, whilst at the same time, Alaska is going to see a re-emergence of sub tropical rain forests. Oh and this will increase the tilt of the earth to push Antarctica firther north thus melting all the ice there and opening it up to being reforested again.
How am I going for a noobie? can I get a job as a climate alarmist scientist yet? How much in grants do you think I can get, 1 mill, 5 mill? or maybe I can get all of Bill Gates’ money, yeah, billionaire sounds good, I’m in, I wanna be rich and have a huge house that uses the same power as a small town to run. Anthony, can you give me a reference please? and a cash cheque for 1 million Australian dollars. (chuckle)
The second author of the PNAS paper that led to this story is Judith Curry.
The UK has had a mild winter so far, apart from a couple of weeks ago with a record low of -18C in Lincolnshire. The story claimed that the warming Arctic was causing the jet stream to change bringing colder air into the UK for colder winters. The winters of 09/10 were cold and snowy but as we all know Arctic ice is increasing not melting but this small fact escapes Black and his cohorts. Also missed, or not mentioned, was the record cold/snowy winter in central and eastern Europe. We in the UK are shielded from the worst of the cold by the Gulf Stream but this vital fact is ignored by the BBC/Black
Tabloid news based on tabloid science at its best!
I’ve heard Black three times today on BBC news giving out this nonsense. Now I’m confused as to who to believe, him or Dr David Viner, senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia: “within a few years winter snowfall will become a very rare and exciting event”
Bwahahahahahah!
Wait…they really believe that? Uhhhhh…
Nevermind. 🙂
PaulM says (February 28, 2012 at 7:25 am)
The second author of the PNAS paper that led to this story is Judith Curry.
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Good lord! So it is.
Heard this myself this morning on the Today program from the Biased Bull***t Corporation and my personal BS detector overloaded.
The problem is that the great unwashed believe this hook line and stinker more strongly now than ever before; the sceptical argument is lost in the noise and most people don’t want to hear it.
Indeed, if anyone is delusional enough to think that we are winning the argument and the warmistas are losing you really don’t understand. Alarmism is alive and very well; it is rampant in the MSM but especially the Beeb where virtually every program has a reference to man made climate change whether it fits the program’s raison d’etre or not.
I’ll keep saying this ’til it happens: we need a breakthrough and that will only happen when a prominent MSM preacher is convinced that the alarmist junk science is just that – junk. Until then look for more & more garbage scientific studies, more grants to The Team, more politicains calling for more green/CO2 policies, more government intervention and the ruination of our economies.
Well the ‘cold’ has to go somewhere, doesn’t it?
This is an climategate e-mail from 2008 (the reply is worth reading too)
The purpose is to lay suspension bridge cable between some
Arctic Ocean islands in order to prevent sea ice moving south.
We plan to construct it such a way that the cable allows ice
to move northwards but cuts its passage when sea ice turns
moving southwards. The problem is that ice can melt
completely, and in fact this is our expectation before the end
of this decade, say by 2009.
http://www.ecowho.com/foia.php?file=1079.txt&search=arctic
So if global warming is causing colder N. Hemisphere winters, why is Joe Romm complaining that the MSM is not attributing the mild winter in the lower 48 states to, er, global warming. 🙂
Ps: That sentence could have ended after Romm.
Almost as bad as Australias’ Tim Flannery’s radical climate change ‘solution’, I am confident I can do better than this idiot for AU$180k part-time.
http://www.news.com.au/top-stories/climate-plan-could-change-sky-colour/story-e6frfkp9-1111116384553
If open arctic seas are releasing heat from the oceans then that is a cooling effect as energy unlocked from the ocean soon dashes off to space. A knock-on effect is it is raising the albedo in the UK by creating snowfall. That is also a cooling effect as incoming energy is reflected back to space. Something someone is sure of is wrong.
Next up, global warming causing Antarctica to thaw and release its cold will end the interglacial and lead to continental mile-thick glaciations and iced-over oceans.
On the upside, the ice on the oceans and land will finally break the anthropogenic trends of dramatically more frequent and immensely more powerful hurricanes and tornadoes.
Sounds like it should have been cold in Europe during the MWP. Since we know Greenland was warmer and that means a lot less ice in the Arctic, the same scenario should have existed.
But wait, according to the same dolts, the MWP was local to the NH most specifically Europe. I wonder if there are any better examples of cognitive dissonance in existence?
Doublethink: a person can hold two opposing ideas in his or her mind at the same time, fully believing in both ideas. “Newspeak” is the official language used to express the ideas of doublethink.
“We had to publish this nonsense before the funding year ends….”
Richrd Black (presumably with a straight face) states that Arctic sea ice ‘has not recovered’ from the 2007 minimum.
Well – if he’d care to look properly at the sea ice graphs produced by the Danish Met Office, and NANSEN – he might notice that it has recovered CONSIDERABLY – but hey – don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story…
It’s about time WUWT has brought to the limelight the brilliant science and groundbreaking global warming studies being reported by Richard Black over at the BBC, it’s freaking hilarious…
The subtlety was missed on this one…..
“…interfering with atmospheric currents…”
This phrasing is clever in that it would suggest a problem rather than a benefit, which in fact it is (if you consider a negative feedback a plus, OR, you’re happy with nature doing what it does), and the manipulation of the logic to the benefit of that camp.
How is it “interfering”? I can see that it is effecting, or impacting, or influencing, reacting to or with, but interfering? The usage here is suggestive of an intention, however subliminal, and it typical of the CAGW presentation. THIS is PR spin in its most clever camouflage.
That headline would be a great addition to the climate fail files.
“Melting Arctic causes snowier winters in Europe, the US “.
Does that vapor somehow skip right over Canada?