Guest post by Alec Rawls
“Expert review” of the First Order Draft of AR5 closed on the 10th. Here is the first paragraph of my submitted critique:
My training is in economics where we are very familiar with what statisticians call “the omitted variable problem” (or when it is intentional, “omitted variable fraud”). Whenever an explanatory variable is omitted from a statistical analysis, its explanatory power gets misattributed to any correlated variables that are included. This problem is manifest at the very highest level of AR5, and is built into each step of its analysis.
Like everyone else who participated in this review, I agreed not to cite, quote or distribute the draft. The IPCC also made a further request, which reviewers were not required to agree to, that we “not discuss the contents of the FOD in public fora such as blogs.”
Given what I found—systematic fraud—it would not be moral to honor this un-agreed to request, and because my comments are about what is omitted, the fraud is easy enough to expose without quoting the draft. My entire review (4700 words) only contains a half dozen quotes, which can easily be replaced here with descriptions of the quoted material. Cited section numbers are also easy to replace with descriptions of the subjects addressed. And so with Anthony’s permission, here is the rest of my minimally altered review:
Introduction to the “omitted variable fraud” critique, continued
For the 1750-2010 period examined, two variables correlate strongly with the observed warming (and hence with each other). Solar magnetic activity and atmospheric CO2 were both trending upwards over the period, and both stepped up to much higher levels over the second half of the 20th century. These two correlations with temperature change give rise to the two main competing theories of 20th century warming. Was it driven by rapidly increasing human release of CO2, or by the 80 year “grand maximum” of solar activity that began in the early 1920’s? (“Grand minima and maxima of solar activity: new observational constraints,” Usoskin et al. 2007.)
The empirical evidence in favor of the solar explanation is overwhelming. Dozens of peer-reviewed studies have found a very high degree of correlation (.5 to .8) between solar-magnetic activity and global temperature going back many thousands of years (Bond 2001, Neff 2001, Shaviv 2003, Usoskin 2005, and many others listed below). In other words, solar activity “explains,” in the statistical sense, 50 to 80% of past temperature change.
Such a high degree of correlation over such long time periods implies causality, which can only go one way. Global temperature cannot be driving solar activity, so there must be some mechanism by which solar activity is driving or modulating global temperature change. The high degree of correlation also suggests that solar activity is the primary driver of global temperature on every time scale studied (which is pretty much every time scale but the Milankovitch cycle).
In contrast, records of CO2 and temperature reveal no discernable warming effect of CO2. There is a correlation between atmospheric CO2 and temperature, but with CO2 changes following temperature changes by an average of about 800 years (Caillon 2003), indicating that it is temperature change that is driving atmospheric CO2 change (as it should, since warming oceans are able to hold less CO2). This does not rule out the possibility that CO2 also drives temperature, and in theory a doubling of CO2 should cause about a 1 degree increase in temperature before any feedback effects are accounted, but feedbacks could be negative (dampening rather than amplifying temperature forcings), so there no reason, just from what we know about the greenhouse mechanism, that CO2 has to be a significant player. The one thing we can say is that whatever the warming effect of CO2, it is not detectable in the raw CO2 vs. temperature data.
This is in glaring contrast to solar activity, which lights up like a neon sign in the raw data. Literally dozens of studies finding .5 to .8 degrees of correlation with temperature. So how is it that the IPCC’s current generation of general circulation models start with the assumption that CO2 has done 40 times as much to warm the planet as solar activity since 1750? This is the ratio of AR5’s radiative forcing estimates for variation in CO2 and variation in total solar effects between 1750 and 2010, as listed in [the table of RF estimates in the chapter on human and natural temperature forcing factors]. RF for CO2 is entered as ___ W/m^2 while RF for total solar effects is entered as ___ W/m^2. [I’m not going to quote the actual numbers, but yeah, the ratio is an astounding 40 to 1, up from 14 to 1 in AR4, which listed total solar forcing as 0.12 W/m^2, vs. 1.66 for CO2.]
So the 50% driver of global temperature according to mountains of temperature correlation data is assumed to have 1/40th the warming effect of something whose warming effect is not even discernable in the temperature record. This is on the input side of the GCM’s. The models aren’t using gigaflops of computing power to find that CO2 has that much larger a warming effect. The warming ratio is fixed at the outset. Garbage in, garbage out.
The “how” is very simple. The 40 times greater warming effect of CO2 is achieved by blatant omitted variable fraud. As I will fully document, all of the evidence for a strong solar magnetic driver of climate is simply left out of AR5. Of the many careful empirical studies that show a high correlation between solar activity and climate, only three papers are obliquely referenced in a single sentence of the entire First Order Draft. On [page___, line ____ of the chapter on aerosols and clouds] there is a bare reference to three papers that found unspecified correlations to some climate variables, with no mention of the dramatic magnitude of the correlations, or the scope and repetition of the findings. And that’s it. Not a single other mention in the entire report. A person reading AR5 from cover to cover would come away with not even a hint that for more than ten years a veritable flood of studies have been finding solar activity to explain something on the order of half of all past temperature variation. The omission is virtually complete.
As a result, AR5 misattributes virtually all of the explanatory power of solar-magnetic activity to the correlated CO2 variable. This misattribution can be found both in AR5’s analytical discussions and in its statistical estimations and projections, and the error could not be more consequential. If it is solar-magnetic activity that drives climate then the sun’s recent descent into a state of profound quiescence portends imminent global cooling, possibly rapid and severe, and unlike warming, cooling is actually dangerous and really can feed back on itself in runaway fashion.
Nothing could be more perverse in such a circumstance than to unplug the modern world in a misbegotten jihad against CO2. The IPCC’s omitted variable fraud must stop. AR5’s misattribution of 20th century warming to CO2 must stop. The evidence overwhelmingly supports the solar-magnetic warming theory. The only support for the CO2 theory is the fact that models built on it can achieve a reasonable fit to the last couple centuries of temperature history, but that is only because CO2 is roughly correlated with solar activity over this period, while these models themselves are invalidated by their demonstrable omitted variable fraud. If warming is attributed to solar-magnetic effects at all in accordance with the evidence then the warming that is left to attribute to CO2 becomes utterly benign.
With natural temperature variation almost certainly both substantially larger than CO2 effects, and headed in the cooling direction, the expected external value of CO2 is unambiguously positive. If anything, we should subsidizing and promoting increases in atmospheric CO2, exactly the opposite of the draft report’s opening claim that developments since AR4 “… [summary conclusion about scientists supposedly being more sure than ever (thanks to the absence of any 21st century warming?) that the effects of human activity are the primary climate concern].”
As someone who recognizes the scientific errors in this disastrous report, I can at least make sure that the issue is put properly before the authors of AR5. Thus I am documenting as concisely as possible the solar-magnetic omission and the errors it leads to. The discussion is substantial but I have kept it well under the character limit for a single comment. This comment is being submitted as a top-level comment on AR5 as a whole, and it is being submitted unaltered as a comment on three different sub-chapter headings where the omitted solar-magnetic evidence ought to be taken into account: ____, ____, ____ [a subheading in the paleo-data chapter, a subheading in the chapter on clouds and aerosols, and a subheading in the radiative forcing chapter].
A sample of the omitted evidence
Listed below are a few of the most prominent and compelling studies that have found a strong correlations between solar activity and climate, together with a semi-random collection of similar findings, totaling two dozen citations all together. It would be easy to list two dozen more, but the purpose here is just to show a sample of the omitted evidence, in order to document up-front the existence and validity of it. Included are brief descriptions of the findings for about ten of the studies. None of the observed correlations are reported anywhere in AR5. The first four are the ones I mentioned above:
Bond et al. 2001, “Persistent Solar Influence on North Atlantic Climate During the Holocene,” Science.
Excerpt from Bond: “Over the last 12,000 years virtually every centennial time scale increase in drift ice documented in our North Atlantic records was tied to a distinct interval of variable and, overall, reduced solar output.”
Neff et al. 2001, “Strong coherence between solar variability and the monsoon in Oman between 9 and 6 kyr ago,” Nature.
Finding from Neff: Correlation coefficients of .55 and .60.
Usoskin et. al. 2005, “Solar Activity Over the Last 1150 years: does it Correlate with Climate?” Proc. 13th Cool Stars Workshop.
Excerpt from Usoskin: “The long term trends in solar data and in northern hemisphere temperatures have a correlation coefficient of about 0.7 — .8 at a 94% — 98% confidence level.”
Shaviv and Veizer, 2003, “Celestial driver of Phanerozoic climate?” GSA Today.
Excerpt from Shaviv: “We find that at least 66% of the variance in the paleotemperature trend could be attributed to CRF [Cosmic Ray Flux] variations likely due to solar system passages through the spiral arms of the galaxy.” [Not strictly due to solar activity, but implicating the GCR, or CRF, that solar activity modulates.]
Plenty of anti-CO2 alarmists know about this stuff. Mike Lockwood and Claus Fröhlich, for instance, in their 2007 paper: “Recent oppositely directed trends in solar climate forcings and the global mean surface air temperature” (Proc. R. Soc. A), began by documenting how “[a] number of studies have indicated that solar variations had an effect on preindustrial climate throughout the Holocene.” In support, they cited 17 papers: the Bond and Neff articles from above, plus:
Davis & Shafer 1992; Jirikowic et al. 1993; Davis 1994; vanGeel et al. 1998; Yu&Ito 1999; Hu et al. 2003; Sarnthein et al. 2003; Christla et al. 2004; Prasad et al. 2004; Wei & Wang 2004; Maasch et al. 2005; Mayewski et al. 2005; Wang et al. 2005a; Bard & Frank 2006; and Polissar et al. 2006.
The correlations in most of these papers are not directly to temperature. They are to temperature proxies, some of which have a complex relationship with temperature, like Neff 2001, which found a correlation between solar activity and rainfall. Even so, the correlations tend to be strong, as if the whole gyre is somehow moving in broad synchrony with solar activity.
Some studies do examine correlations between solar activity proxies and direct temperature proxies, like the ratio of Oxygen18 to Oxygen16 in geologic samples. One such study (highlighted in Kirkby 2007) is Mangini et. al. 2005, “Reconstruction of temperature in the Central Alps during the past 2000 yr from a δ18O stalagmite record.”
Excerpt from Mangini: “… a high correlation between δ18O in SPA 12 and D14C (r =0.61). The maxima of δ18O coincide with solar minima (Dalton, Maunder, Sporer, Wolf, as well as with minima at around AD 700, 500 and 300). This correlation indicates that the variability of δ18O is driven by solar changes, in agreement with previous results on Holocene stalagmites from Oman, and from Central Germany.”
And that’s just old stuff. Here are four random recent papers.
Ogurtsov et al, 2010, “Variations in tree ring stable isotope records from northern Finland and their possible connection to solar activity,” JASTP.
Excerpt from Ogurtsov: “Statistical analysis of the carbon and oxygen stable isotope records reveals variations in the periods around 100, 11 and 3 years. A century scale connection between the 13C/12C record and solar activity is most evident.”
Di Rita, 2011, “A possible solar pacemaker for Holocene fluctuations of a salt-marsh in southern Italy,” Quaternary International.
Excerpt from Di Rita: “The chronological correspondence between the ages of saltmarsh vegetation reductions and the minimum concentration values of 10Be in the GISP2 ice core supports the hypothesis that important fluctuations in the extent of the salt-marsh in the coastal Tavoliere plain are related to variations of solar activity.”
Raspopov et al, 2011, “Variations in climate parameters at time intervals from hundreds to tens of millions of years in the past and its relation to solar activity,” JASTP.
Excerpt from Raspopov: “Our analysis of 200-year climatic oscillations in modern times and also data of other researchers referred to above suggest that these climatic oscillations can be attributed to solar forcing. The results obtained in our study for climatic variations millions of years ago indicate, in our opinion, that the 200- year solar cycle exerted a strong influence on climate parameters at those time intervals as well.”
Tan et al, 2011, “Climate patterns in north central China during the last 1800 yr and their possible driving force,” Clim. Past.
Excerpt from Tan: “Solar activity may be the dominant force that drove the same-phase variations of the temperature and precipitation in north central China.”
Saltmarshes, precipitation, “oscillations.” It’s all so science-fair. How about something just plain scary?
Solheim et al. 2011, “The long sunspot cycle 23 predicts a significant temperature decrease in cycle 24,” submitted astro-ph.
Excerpt from Solheim: “We find that for the Norwegian local stations investigated that 30-90% of the temperature increase in this period may be attributed to the Sun. For the average of 60 European stations we find ≈ 60% and globally (HadCRUT3) ≈ 50%. The same relations predict a temperature decrease of ≈ 0.9°C globally and 1.1−1.7°C for the Norwegian stations investigated from solar cycle 23 to 24.”
First paleo chapter error: omitting all solar variables besides TSI
The paleo-observations chapter is the right place for the evidence for a solar-magnetic climate driver to be introduced because most of this evidence is obtained from the deposition of cosmogenic isotopes in various paleologic strata: ice cores, geologic cores and tree rings. When solar activity is strong, less galactic cosmic radiation (GCR) is able to penetrate the solar wind and reach earth, making variation in cosmogenic isotopes found in time-indexed strata a proxy for solar activity. But when this chapter does get around to looking at cosmogenic records, it only looks at how they can be used to reconstruct total solar irradiance (TSI). It never even hints at the flood of studies that show a high degree of correlation between solar activity and various paleo proxies for climate and temperature!
This takes place [in the addendum that asks whether the sun is a major climate driver]. This addendum mentions the long-period changes in TSI that go with orbital variation (Milankovitch cycles), a factor which hasn’t changed enough since 1750 to account for any significant amount of the warming since that date. Neither can TSI changes from changes in the sun’s output of electromagnetic radiation be responsible for significant recent warming because, as solar activity jumps dramatically up and down over the roughly 11 year solar cycle, solar output is known to remain remarkably stable, varying only .1 to .2%.
Thus, concludes the addendum, the sun cannot be responsible for any significant amount of the warming since 1750. But it is only able to reach this conclusion by completely omitting any consideration those solar variables other than TSI that could be affecting global temperature. Unlike TSI, solar wind speed and pressure vary considerably over the solar cycle and between solar cycles. So do the Ap index and the F10.7cm radio flux progression, while the GCR that the solar wind modulates (measured by neutron counts at Climax, Oulu and other locations) can vary by a full order of magnitude over the solar cycle. In contrast, TSI varies so little that it is called “the solar constant.” If there is a mechanism by which solar variation is driving global temperature, it is most likely to work through those solar variables that actually vary significantly with solar activity. Yet the discussion in the addendum pretends that these other solar variables do not even exist.
So that’s the first error in the paleo-chapter addendum: pretending to have addressed the range of possible solar effects while studiously neglecting to mention that there are a bunch of solar variables that, unlike TSI, vary tremendously over the solar cycle and might affect our climate in ways that we do not yet understand. We in-effect live inside of the sun’s “atmosphere,” the extended corona created by the sun’s magnetic field and the solar wind. AR5 simply assumes that this solar environment has no effect on global climate, and they do it by rank omission of the relevant variables. The omitted variable problems that result are not an accident. They are omitted variable fraud.
Second paleo-chapter error: the highly irrational assumption that temperature would be driven by the trend in solar activity rather than the level
Perhaps in an effort to justify ignoring all solar variables other than TSI, the paleo-chapter addendum ends with what it presents as a general reason to dismiss the possibility that solar variation made any significant contribution to late 20th century warming by ANY mechanism:
[The statement here it the familiar claim that, because solar activity was not rising over the second half of the 20th century, it cannot possibly be responsible for late 20th century warming. I wrote a series of posts last year documenting the number of anti-CO2 alarmists who make this amazing claim, that it is not the level of forcing that creates warming, but the rate of change in the forcing. See for example, “Solar warming and ocean equilibrium Part 3: Solanki and Schuessler respond.”]
TSI peaks at the high point of the solar cycle just as the other solar variables do, so no matter what solar variable is looked at, it can’t have been the cause of recent warming, because none of these variables showed any upward trend over this period, right? Wrong. That’s like saying you can’t heat a pot of water by turning the flame to maximum and leaving it there, that you have to turn up the flame sloooooowly if you want the water to heat. It is incredible to see something so completely unscientific in AR5, passing as highly vetted science.
And the “flame” did stay on maximum. Again, there was an 80 year “grand maximum” of solar activity starting in the early 1920’s (Usoskin 2007).
[WUWT interjection for Leif and others who deny that there was a 20the century grand maximum of solar activity: if 20th century solar activity was merely “high instead of exceptional” (Muscheler 2007), it makes no difference to the argument here, as I explain in a postscript at the bottom.]
By claiming that solar activity would have had to keep rising in order to cause late 20th century warming, AR5 is in-effect assuming that by the late 70’s the oceans had already equilibrated to whatever temperature forcing effect the 20th century’s high level of solar activity might have. Otherwise the continued high level of solar activity would have caused continued warming.
Claims of rapid ocean equilibration have been made (Schwartz 2007), but they don’t stand up to scrutiny. In order to get his result, Schwartz used an energy balance model with the oceans represented by a single heat sink. That is, he assumed that the whole ocean changed temperature at once! Once you move to a 2 heat sink model where it takes time for heat to transfer from one ocean layer to another (Kirk-Davidoff 2009), rapid temperature adjustment of the upper ocean layer tells us next to nothing about how long it takes for the ocean to equilibrate to a long term forcing. [For an in-depth comparison of one heat-sink and the two heat-sink energy balance models see Part 2 of my ocean equilibration series.]
The paleo-temperature record is typified by multi-century warming and cooling phases, suggesting that equilibration can easily take centuries, making it ludicrous to assume that the warming effect of a grand maximum that began in the 1920’s must have been spent by 1970 or 1980 or by any particular date.
So no, there is no way to save the utterly incompetent argument in the paleo-chapter addendum that a solar driver of temperature can only cause warming when it is on the increase. If solar wind pressure or GCR does in some way drive global temperature, there is every reason to believe that it would have continued to warm the planet for as long as solar activity remained at grand maximum levels. There is no excuse for the IPCC to be omitting these variables, which are much more likely than TSI to be responsible for the high observed degree of correlation between solar activity and climate. For the paleo chapter to be tenable, all of the now massive evidence that there is some mechanism by which solar activity is driving most temperature change must be laid out in full.
Technical note: misattribution is assigned manually in AR5, but the concept is the same as for purely statistical omitted variable fraud
If TSI and the other solar variables all move roughly together, won’t omitting the solar variables other than TSI cause their explanatory power to be attributed to TSI rather than CO2, since they are more closely correlated with TSI than with CO2?
In a purely statistical estimation scheme yes, but the IPCC uses a combination of parameterized elements and estimated elements, and amongst the parameterized elements are the radiative forcings of CO2 and TSI, meaning that their relative warming effects are parameterized as well, with CO2 being assigned 40 times the warming effect of TSI over the 1750 to 2010 period.
This parameterization means that the explanatory power of the omitted solar magnetic variables gets attributed forty parts to CO2 for every one part to TSI. This structure forces the misattribution onto CO2. You can think of it as a manual assignment of the misattribution.
The general concept of the omitted variable remains the same. There is only so much attribution for warming to go around (100%). If attribution is given to the solar-magnetic variables in accordance with the evidence from the historic and paleo records, meaning at least 50%, then there less than 50% that can possibly be attributable to other causes.
Which again brings the scientific competence of IPCC into question. If CO2 has 40 times the warming effect of the 50% driver of global temperature (total solar effects), that makes it what? The 2000% driver of global temperature?
The chapter on aerosols and clouds inverts the scientific method, using theory to dismiss evidence
Where the paleo chapter simply pretends that no solar variable other than TSI exists, the chapter on aerosols and clouds doesn’t have that option. It is tasked to address directly the possibility that variables like the solar wind and GCR could be affecting climate. But this chapter still comes up with a way to avoid mentioning any of the massive evidence that there must be some mechanism by which solar activity is driving climate. Just as it starts to touch on the subject, it jumps instead to examining the tenability of particular theories about the mechanism by which solar activity might drive climate.
This happens right at the beginning of [the section that discusses the possible interplay between cosmic radiation, aerosols and clouds]:
[The quote here is the first two sentences under this sub-chapter heading. The first lists three papers as finding non-specific correlations between cosmogenic isotopes and various climate variables. The second sentence executes an immediate transition to a discussion of the evidence for particular mechanisms by which solar activity might drive global temperature.]
The first sentence of this quote is as close as AR5 comes to making any mention of overwhelming evidence that there is SOME mechanism by which solar activity drives global temperature. The citations suggest some correlations between solar activity and climate, but the strength of the correlations and how well established they are is completely obscured, and that’s it. Bare reference to three papers (author and year) with virtually nothing about what they found. The second sentence effects the transition into looking at the evidence for particular theories of possible mechanisms by which solar activity might effect climate. A short discussion later the evidence for these particular mechanisms is asserted (quite tendentiously) to be “[not strong enough]” for the mechanisms to “[have a significant effect on climate]” (page __, line __). This proclaimed weakness in turn becomes the rationale for omitting the proposed mechanisms from the IPCC’s general circulation models, and hence from the projections that are made with those models.
What do the AR5 draft authors do with the overwhelming evidence that there is SOME mechanism at work that makes solar magnetic the primary driver of global temperature? They don’t like the particular theories offered, but they have to still acknowledge that SOME such mechanism must be at work, don’t they? But readers don’t know about that evidence. It was skipped over via that one sentence of oblique references to a few papers that made unidentified findings, allowing AR5 to continue as if the evidence doesn’t exist. They never mention it again. They never account it in any way. It is GONE from AR5. The authors declare their dissatisfaction with the available theories for how solar activity might drive climate, and use this as an excuse to completely ignore the massive evidence that there is some such mechanism at work.
This is an exact inversion of the scientific method, which says that evidence always trumps theory. The IPCC is throwing away the evidence for a solar-magnetic driver of climate because it isn’t satisfied with the theories that have been proposed to account for it. This is the definition of anti-science: putting theory (or ideology, or anything) over evidence. Evidence has to be the trump card, or its not science. The IPCC is engaged in pure, definitional, anti-science, precisely inverting the scientific method.
It is as if a pre-Newtonian “scientist” were to predict that a rock released into the air will waft away on the breeze because we understand the force that the breeze imparts on the rock but we have no good theory of the mechanism by which heavy objects are pulled to the ground. We should therefore ignore the overwhelming evidence that there is some mechanism that pulls heavy objects to the ground, and until such time as we can identify the mechanism, proceed as if no such mechanism exists. This is what the IPCC is actually doing with the solar-climate evidence. Y’all aren’t scientists. You are actual, definitional, anti-scientists.
More anti-science: the aerosols and clouds chapter repeats the second paleo-chapter error
You know what I’m talking about: that bit about thinking that a climate driver can only cause continued warming if its own level continues to increase. The clouds and aerosols chapter says again that just leaving a proposed climate driver on maximum can’t possibly cause warming (page___, lines ___):
“_____ _____ _____ _____ ____”
And that’s the end of the section, AR5’s punctuation mark on why solar activity and GCR should be dismissed as an explanation for late 20th century warming.
This is anti-scientific in its own way. Scientists are supposed to be smart. They aren’t supposed to think that you have to slowly turn up the flame under a pot of water in order to heat it. You could collect every imbecile in the world together and not a one of them would ever come up with the idea that they have to turn the heat up slowly. It’s beyond stupid. It’s like, insanely stupid. And multiple chapter-writing teams are proclaiming the same nonsense? Fruitcakes.
Okay, I guess that means I’m ready to wrap up. Y’all have taken all these tens of billions in research money and used it perpetrate a fraud. As I have documented above, you have perpetrated the grandest and most blatant example of omitted variable fraud in history, but so far only the skeptic half the world knows it. You still have a shot, before global cooling is an established fact, to make a rapid turn around and save some shred of your reputations. But if AR5 comes out insisting that CO2 is a dominant warming influence just as global cooling is proving that the dominant climate driver is our now-quiet sun, then you all are finished on the spot. You’ll still have your filthy lucre, but the tap is going to turn off, and your reputations will be destroyed forever.
Can you imagine a worse juxtaposition? Still waging war on CO2 as the sun is already proving that CO2 is entirely beneficial? And this is what the evidence says is going to happen, all of that evidence that you have been so studiously omitting. I’m eager for your embarrassment, but I would much rather see you save yourselves, so that the needed policy reversals can some that much sooner. The anti-CO2 policies that your fraudulent “science” has supported are right now destroying the world economy. You idiots are killing our future. Please wake up and try to save your own reputations before your lunatic anti-science ruins us all.
End of review
“Omitted variable fraud” is the more fundamental critique
It is common for those who are swayed by the evidence for solar-climate driver to frame their protest against the IPCC’s dismissal of the evidence by protesting the short shrift the IPCC gives to the theories of how those effects might work. Here, for instance, is Tim Ball’s 2008 critique of AR4:
…they studiously avoided any discussion of the clear relationship between sunspot activity and temperature. They claimed there was no mechanism to explain the correlation so it could not be included, but that is incorrect. A very valid mechanism known as the Cosmic Theory (Svensmark and Calder, “The Chilling Stars”) has been in the literature with increasing detail since 1991. The date is important because IPCC claimed it was excluded because it was not published in time to meet their cut off date for consideration.
In other words, AR4 did exactly the same thing that AR5 is doing. They used the supposed lack of a sufficient theory for how a solar magnetic driver worked as an excuse not to present the overwhelming evidence that some such mechanism is a potent driver of global climate (a ruse that I documented in submitted comments on the Second Order draft of AR4, and TAR pulled the same trick as well.)
Ball’s response—that there actually is a pretty good theory—is perfectly correct, but it skips past the deeper point: that there can never be any excuse for “studiously [avoiding] any discussion of the clear relationship between sunspot activity and temperature.” The “omitted variable fraud” critique directly exposes and attacks this excuse making. Empirical evidence, the raw data, is supposed to be the ultimate arbiter. If any excuse is used to shunt the evidence aside, it’s no longer science.
We also know the consequences of this fraudulent anti-science. Omission of any variable with known explanatory power (regardless of whether the mechanism is understood) creates misattribution of the same magnitude. It’s a first order mistake.
In contrast, giving short shrift to the GCR-cloud theory is a lesser problem. So long as the IPCC’s predictive scheme attributes recent warming to solar activity in accordance with past patterns it isn’t a big deal whether a particular solar-temperature mechanism is modeled or not. At least the known explanatory variables are not being omitted and we are down to second order errors instead of first order errors.
Note that it is not necessary to invoke any theory. Predictions of future solar activity, for instance, are not based on physical models, but are purely a projection of past patterns, and this is sufficient to avoid first order error. Avoid the omitted variable fraud, account the known explanatory power of the solar-magnetic variables in any reasonable way, and big mistakes are avoided.
For the fraudsters, big mistakes are the whole point. Only with big mistakes can our eco-leftist “scientists” wage their war against industrial capitalism. Only big mistakes can give mainstream-left politicians the vast energy taxes that they eye as a treasure trove and allow them to channel hundreds of billions of dollars in wind and solar subsidies to their friends and backers.
But it’s an easy fraud to expose. Pretty much everyone who has ever taken a first course in statistics is familiar with the omitted variable problem. That is every undergraduate economics major, every business major, every science major, and most other social science majors. Right now, most of these people believe it when they are told that they can’t check the facts for themselves, that they just have to trust (or not trust) the credentialed climate scientists. But it is not true. Not only can they check the facts for themselves, but it is trivially easy.
All they need to do is scan a selection of the many empirical findings that solar-magnetic activity “explains” in the statistical sense something like half of past temperature change, then observe that all solar magnetic variables are in fact omitted from the IPCC models. It’s right there the RF table for each area report, where total solar effects are parameterized as having some tiny fraction of the warming effect of CO2. Then bingo. They know that powerful solar-warming effects are being misattributed to the coincidentally correlated CO2. They have checked the facts for themselves, at which point the voices of authority insisting that they cannot check the facts for themselves instantly become the Wizard of Oz, ordering them to ignore the man behind the curtain. Not even trusting little Dorothy fell for that.
Fundamental and accessible. That’s why I have trying to push the “omitted variable fraud” critique for many years. Anthony has a bigger bullhorn than I have had access to in the past, so maybe it will get out there this time!
If Leif is right that sunspot counts since 1945 should be reduced 20%, it does not alter the above analysis in any significant way
My review cites Usoskin’s claim that solar activity was at “grand maximum” levels from about 1920-2000. Frequent WUWT contributor Leif Svalsgaard denies that the recent peak in solar activity was a “grand maximum,” arguing that Max Waldmeier’s post-1945 sunspot counting scheme yields numbers that are about 20% too high.
If solar activity from 1945 to 2000 was merely “high instead of exceptional” (Muscheler 2007, whose cosmogenic proxies for solar activity extend through 2001), the narrative here is not significantly altered. As my review reiterates, you don’t have to keep turning the flame up under a pot of water to cause warming. Coming out of the Maunder Minimum/ Little Ice Age, if what the paleo-data says is the primary driver of global temperature remained at a high setting for most of a couple of centuries, that should cause continued warming. To actually argue that solar forcing has to continue rising in order to cause continued warming (the IPCC just asserts it) you’d have to argue that oceans had already equilibrated to the forcing, but there is no evidence for that, while the history of planetary temperature suggests that equilibration can take several centuries.
It is true that some of the strongest correlations between solar activity and temperature have short lags, on the order of ten years, but rapid responses to short term changes in solar-magnetic activity do not militate against longer term responses to longer term forcings. On the contrary, short term responsiveness implies longer term responsiveness, just as the rapid response of daytime temperatures to the rising sun implies that the longer term increase in insolation as the seasons change towards summer should cause seasonal temperature change (which of course it does).
For present purposes, it doesn’t matter whether solar activity quickly jumped up to high levels after Maunder and stayed mostly at those levels until the end of the 20th century (with the notable exceptions of the Dalton Minimum and the turn of the 19th century lull), or whether solar activity over the second half of the 20th century really did ascend to the highest levels seen since 9000 BC (Usoskin). As far as we know, either scenario could easily account for the modest amount of warming in question.
That’s an unexceptional .7° C from 1600 to the 1961-90 average according to Moberg 2005 , or .5° between 1750 to 1961-90. That 1961-90 temperature average is the HadCRUT3 zero point. HadCRUT3 reached a peak of .548 in 1998 and has fallen a couple of tenths since, so altogether there was a peak of about a 1° increase over the IPCC’s 260 year study period (now down to about .8°) which is nothing unusual in the ups and downs of global temperature.
There is no reason to think that the sun could only be responsible for this unexceptional temperature increase if there had been 50 years of the highest solar activity since 9000 BC. Of course the IPCC thinks that any steady level of solar activity over the second half of the 20th century rules out a solar explanation for the small amount of warming over that period on grounds that the level of solar activity didn’t keep going up to even more extreme levels, but they’re just a bunch of fruitcake anti-scientists.
Submitted review contains one inaccuracy that is corrected in the review posted above
My submitted review claimed that the only reference in the First Order Draft to the vast evidence for a solar-climate driver comes in a single sentence that makes an oblique reference to a single research paper. In the corrected review above, that becomes a single sentence making oblique reference to three research papers.
Two of the papers only look at solar-climate correlations over the second half of the 20th century and hence are inherently unable to draw strong conclusions. I guess I was thinking that the only “real” citation was to the survey paper that actually addresses the paleo-data. But those details are irrelevant to the point I was trying to make—that a reader of AR5 is given no hint of what is in any these papers—and no clue that numerous studies point to solar activity as the primary driver of global temperature. The submitted review quotes the full sentence, so it isn’t hiding anything, but it isn’t fully accurate.
So that’s the price of procrastination. It was just before the submission deadline and I had a reunion dinner to rush off to so I was not able to vet as thoroughly as I would have liked. Still, this is the only actual screw-up in my submitted review: it isn’t one oblique reference to a single paper, but one sentence obliquely referencing three papers. With the draft report unavailable to WUWT readers I don’t want to put forward any mischaracterizations, so I made the correction and am footnoting it here.
The posting here also fixes some typos, adds links to some of the cited papers, adds some formatting that was unavailable on our Excel submission form, and touches up the presentation in a few spots.
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William M. Connolley (February 22, 2012 at 7:21 am) wrote:
“> Courtillot…
has a poor name, but the abstract says nothing terribly interesting, let alone seminal. Perhaps there is something mroe exciting hidden inside?”
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Recognition of nature’s beauty isn’t a function of author names.
Landmark findings often go unrecognized for decades.
(Perhaps with the internet we can reduce such delays by orders of magnitude.)
Neither mainstream nor eccentric conception of solar-terrestrial-climate relations is presently consistent with seminal, robust, empirical findings:
1. Le Mouël, J.-L.; Blanter, E.; Shnirman, M.; & Courtillot, V. (2010). Solar forcing of the semi-annual variation of length-of-day. Geophysical Research Letters 37, L15307. doi:10.1029/2010GL043185.
2. http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/vaughn_lod_fig1b.png
3. http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/image10.png
4. ftp://ftp.iers.org/products/eop/long-term/c04_08/iau2000/eopc04_08_IAU2000.62-now
5. ftp://ftp.iers.org/products/geofluids/atmosphere/aam/GGFC2010/AER/
The mainstream’s “uniform 0.1K” solar-terrestrial-climate narrative is strictly inadmissible under the data.
Since no one’s conception of solar-terrestrial-climate relations was correct, the landmark finding forces not only conceptual correction but whole paradigm shift.
This hard line is a peace sign formerly mistaken as disordered blur. Aim to be a sound mind when the riots stir…
“If they take my hand,
will it be to burn me or to say amen?” — Lights
EOP (Earth Orientation Parameters, not to be confused with earth orbital parameters) are key arbiters of climate disputes. Background reading for those aiming to efficiently become fair judges:
1. Solar, Terrestrial, & Lunisolar Components of Rate of Change of Length of Day
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/10/solar-terrestrial-lunisolar-components-of-rate-of-change-of-length-of-day/
2. Semi-Annual Solar-Terrestrial Power
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/23/confirmation-of-solar-forcing-of-the-semi-annual-variation-of-length-of-day/
“If I were to hide out on the sea,
you’d be whispering from the westerlies.” — Lights
Tim Folkerts (& Wikipedia) says:
Well I can falsify that easily with the following info about CO2:
1% can cause drowsiness with prolonged exposure.[7]
At 2% it is mildly narcotic and causes increased blood pressure and pulse rate, and causes reduced hearing.[74]
At about 5% it causes stimulation of the respiratory center, dizziness, confusion and difficulty in breathing accompanied by headache and shortness of breath.[74] Panic attacks may also occur at this concentration.[76][77]
At about 8% it causes headache, sweating, dim vision, tremor and loss of consciousness after exposure for between five and ten minutes.[74]
from wikipedia
Tim, this information is incorrect.
I am quoting from Roempps chemie lexicon, look it up under Kohlendioksied
They did labtests with animals where they varied the CO2 content and they found that if they took it to as high as 65% (they did not go further) but they left oxygen content at normal 21%, the animals would not die.
The description you and wikipedia give is in fact typical of a lack of oxygen:
i.e. if you take the CO2 content from its current 0.04% up to 10%
then oxygen drops by 10%, or more, because CO2 is heavier, and it might not be that quickly distributed evenly in the area where you are.
Anyway, it is as if you went up a mountain at a very fast speed.
This is in fact the 2nd time in this thread that I found fault with information on wikipedia.
Start reading about the first one here:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/22/omitted-variable-fraud-vast-evidence-for-solar-climate-driver-rates-one-oblique-sentence-in-ar5/#comment-900555
HenryP says:
Huh? Assuming, as quoted above, that people die with 8% CO2.
Atmospheric pressure at sea level – 1013 mb
0.92 * 1013 = 931 mb which would be found at an altitude of about 0.7 km
Mt Everest is about 8,848 m high, and people climb that without oxygen
At that altitude, the expected pressure is about 314 mb
314 / 1013 = 31% of sea level
Therefore, this disproves your assertion that people die at 8% CO2 because of “a lack of oxygen”. In fact, this is the reason that CO2 scrubbers work, they just have to remove the CO2 because there is plenty of oxygen.
Leif Svalgaard says: (February 22, 2012 at 2:26 am) “You may wish to consult the paper by Schrijver et al” 2011. Leif is right; it is well worth a read.
Schrijver, C. J., W. C. Livingston, T. N. Woods, and R. A. Mewaldt. “The Minimal Solar Activity in 2008–2009 and Its Implications for Long-term Climate Modeling.” Geophysical Research Letters 38 (March 16, 2011): 6 PP. http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2011/2011GL046658.shtml
I remain curious, however, about the variability of the solar wind and magnetic influence. In respect to the solar wind/magnetic field, however, would not its effects extend to the heliopause (albeit more diffuse)? Would this introduce consideration of some sort of lag in any time-series data comparison?
HenryP says:
“I hear what you say but you are still assuming that (more) CO2 still does something to our temps.
I think you will find yourself in VERY rare company if you say rising CO2 levels have NO effect on temperature. The AMOUNT of warming is debatable: I have seen numbers from as low as ~ 0.5 C (eg from the noted skeptic Lindzen). This is well below the ~ 3 C that IPCC thinks is correct. But I have seen no serious estimates that say the answer is zero. Do you have serious calculations that support absolutely zero effect?
“CO2 is a natural gas, like oxygen, and life itself depends on it. It does nothing to temps.”
This is a non sequitur. Yes, it is natural. Yes, life depends on it. Neither of those two facts have anything to do with its affect on climate.
The warming of the past 4 decades was due to natural causes as explained to conman Connally earlier in this thread.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/22/omitted-variable-fraud-vast-evidence-for-solar-climate-driver-rates-one-oblique-sentence-in-ar5/#comment-901366
I think you are being a little too confident to state categorically it was “due to natural causes”. You would have to rule out conclusively that people did not affect warming.
I can address at least some of what you said there.
“… and also how much cooling is caused by the CO2 by taking part in photo synthesis.”
Almost zero. Photosynthesis does indeed absorb some energy to build plants. But that energy is released when the plant decays/gets eaten. The only NET effect would be a NET sequestration of organic matter. For the most part, plants that are growing now are simply replacing plants that had recently died. To the extent that forests (high mass) are replaced by crops (low mass), we are releasing energy, not storing it — we are warming the planet by “undoing” the photosynthesis that had built the trees. To the extent the earth is “greening” and plants as a whole are growing better, then there would be some cooling.
I’m out of time for now — but we could also work backwards. How much wood would you need to account for even 0.01 W/m^2 of absorbed energy for 1 year? I suspect the number is staggering; it should be easy to get a ball-park estimate.
Robert Clemenzi
Sorry but your conclusion is flawed. The pressure on Everest is far lower than at sea level, but that doesn’t reduce the percentage of oxygen in the air. You cannot make the conclusion you drew. (And while it doesn’t necessarily prove anything, I suspect I’m one of the few in this discussion who have been on an 8K meter peak, so I have more than passing interest in the action of oxygen at altitude.)
Googling the MSDS for CO2 gives:
Clearly it is not SIMPLY the lack of O2 that is at issue.
Werner Brozek says:
February 24, 2012 at 8:39 am
Well, it’s not what I was looking for which is the satellite based temperature data with global coverage which is available back to only 1979.
Terrestrial based measurements, such as HadCrut3, are an another entire can of worms.
I myself said: “How much wood would you need to account for even 0.01 W/m^2 of absorbed energy for 1 year? I suspect the number is staggering; it should be easy to get a ball-park estimate.”
Actually, the number is NOT so staggering.
* 0.01 W/m^2 => 0.3 MW J in 1 year.
* 1 kg of wood is ~ 15 MW.
** 0.3 MJ/m^2/year / 15 MW/kg = 0.02 kg/m^2/year.
If we go to 1 W/m^2, which would be significant for global energy balance, then we are up to ~ 2 extra kilograms of plant matter for every square meter of the world. And this needs to be continuously accumulated without decaying or getting eaten.
On the other hand, the total mass of biological matter is about 2E15 kg (http://energy.saving.nu/biomass/basics.shtml) and the total surface area is 5e14, so there is currently about 4 kg/m^2
of biomass on earth (and this is very close to balanced, with new plants & animals replacing old plants and animals). There is NO WAY that “greening” of the earth is suddenly throwing this out of balance by 50% every year.
Robert Clemenzi says:
February 24, 2012 at 12:02 pm
HenryP says:
People that die of too much CO2 died because of a lack of oxygen.
Huh? Assuming, as quoted above, that people die with 8% CO2.
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Carbon dioxide is heavier than air, it displaces oxygen, how much oxygen is available isn’t the point here – it’s how much can get into the lungs.
Some facts about carbon dioxide (carbon dioxide isn’t a toxic, it suffocates if in large enough quantity to displace oxygen. And no stupid responses from anyone please, carbon dioxide is not a poison which is what toxic means, by AGW fisics someone suffocated by a pillow would have been poisoned..)
From:
http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/11Phl/Sci/CO2&Health.html
“It’s common knowledge that when we breathe we take in oxygen and give off carbon dioxide but what is not generally known is that we are greatly affected by the level of carbon dioxide in the air we breathe as well as the way we breathe. Because many people with a wide range of health problems find relief when given enhanced levels of carbon dioxide, it follows that these people would benefit from any rise in the level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. The importance of CO2 and proper breathing is nicely covered in the following audio lecture and followed with scientific references.
Audio lecture: http://www.aetherin.com/audio/03_carbondioxide.mp3
What are safe levels of Carbon Dioxide?
Source: http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/pns/faq_othr.html Levels of carbon dioxide (CO2), a colorless, odorless gas, have been known to reach 3,000 parts per million (ppm) in homes, schools, and offices with no ill effects. The maximum recommended by the National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) for an 8-hour occupation is 5,000 ppm (13 times the current level of 380 ppm). The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) also use 5,000 ppm as their threshold for occupational safety.
But 5,000 ppm appears to be a very conservative estimate of safe levels because other sources claim we can tolerate up to 1.5% of it in air, 15,000 parts per million.
Consider: people with respiratory problems are given medical gas typically consisting of 95 percent oxygen and 50,000 ppm (5 percent) carbon dioxide. This gas can also be obtained with CO2 ranging from 1% to as high as 10% for treating people who have been asphyxiated.
Also consider: we would die if we did not breathe in such a way as to retain very close to 65,000 ppm (6.5%) of CO2 in the alveoli (tiny air sacs) of our lungs.”
“Consider: people with respiratory problems are given medical gas typically consisting of 95 percent oxygen and 50,000 ppm (5 percent) carbon dioxide. This gas can also be obtained with CO2 ranging from 1% to as high as 10% for treating people who have been asphyxiated.” [Myrrh: because without enough carbon dioxide in our lungs we can’t utilise oxygen.]
“Altitude sickness is caused by hyperventilation, which results in increased oxygen (O2) in the blood but decreased CO2. (Note: oxygen (O) occurs as a molecule in nature, hence the symbol O2) The lowered CO2 will not allow the increased O2 to be utilized. Adjusting to this condition is called “ventilatory acclimatization”. While it is not completely understood all that happens during this process, it has been observed by experimentation that supplementing CO2 prevents this acclimatization as well as preventing the sickness. It appears that respiratory distress due to lower levels of O2 (requiring ventilatory acclimatization) can be relieved or eliminated by the application of a higher level of CO2.”
“This might be a good time to ask: since we exhale CO2, why do we need it to be present in the air we inhale? Good question, but apparently, we do as demonstrated by the above experiment. Other experiments found that simply circulating CO2 up one nostril and out the other while the subject held their breath cured migraine headaches as well as allergic symptoms. Other researchers propose administering CO2 to people who suffer from epilepsy, Parkinson’s, and autism as well. Clearly, we are affected by low levels of CO2 in the air we breathe and need to acclimatize to these low levels, if we can, but not everyone can. Consider:
ı People who experience periodic breathing as well as apnea (cessation of breathing) during sleep benefit from higher levels of CO2. These conditions affect a lot of older people.
ı Increased levels of CO2 can improve the sleep of young people as well. One study found that healthy young men on a submarine slept well when CO2 levels rose but not as well when the levels dropped.
ı Furthermore it’s administered in the form of medical gas (1% to 10%) for many medical conditions to stimulate respiration. For example, people with asthma require from 3% to 5% for therapeutic effect.
Studies suggest that a lower level than this but somewhat higher than present atmospheric levels would prevent the attacks in the first place and prevent subclinical symptoms associated with asthma such as anxiety, insomnia, immune dysfunction and excessive sensitivity to pain. CO2 levels higher than 5 per cent are used for extreme cases such as for treating victims of asphyxiation and to stimulate breathing of newborn infants as well as speeding recovery of patients who have been anesthetized.”
[Myrrh. hyperventilation for whatever reason results in too much carbon dioxide being breathed out and falling to danger levels, around 4%. What happens, as in an asthma attack, is the body’s natural defences kick in to stop expelling carbon dioxide, and this is what appears to be that the person can’t breath in enough air – the body is trying to retain carbon dioxide so the more than sufficient oxygen it has in the lungs can be utilised.Paper bag remedy.. ]
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Myrrh says:
February 24, 2012 at 3:29 am
David says:
February 23, 2012 at 7:09 pm
A further two cent suggestions for the moderators. Poster with “one trick pony” agendas, such as the non heating ability of SWR, or those who insist that there is no GHE, should not be allowed to turn every post into a dialogue and debate over their pet peeve. Perhaps a Side Bar link could be set on the side, and such repetive debates, which distract from the subject of the article, could be redirected to that location with all further interactions similarly placed there..
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Oh right, so those who insist there is no GHE should be sidelined according to those who haven’t proved any such thing exists and moreover say it exists because of some imaginative belief that, contrary to all empirical proven physics knowledge, SWR heats land and oceans?
I was adding to the opening post’s very strong condemnation of the IPCC’s fraud in taking out the Sun – the fraud goes further than that is my point, it has taken out the Sun because it has introduced a completely different fisics about it.
Now, you can take your unproven GHE effect and stuff it, or prove that it exists, but as long as Anthony allows free and open discussion on the science of this then the view that this too is a science fraud is fair to bring into such relevant discussions,….”
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Myrrh, you were adding nothing to the opening post’s condemnation of the IPCC. You were in fact distracting from it on this post, and many others. Further, seeing that your perspective is not respected by many sceptical scientists, your continuing to turn every post into Myrrh’s debate, is providing fodder for the Connelly’s of the world to further pull attention away from the opening post. All of the above has nothing to do with the veracity of your thoughts. Any decent General picks and chooses his battlefield. Only a reckless, doomed to defeat, General fights on every field.
Typhoon says:
February 24, 2012 at 2:27 pm
Well, it’s not what I was looking for which is the satellite based temperature data with global coverage which is available back to only 1979.
I wish I could help more. But I played around with the data and graphs and found that if I plotted both UAH and RSS and then offset the UAH by + 0.09, the trend lines virtually match over the complete time. However individual spikes vary a huge amount! I know this does not totally answer your question, but look at the graphs and perhaps you or someone else can figure out how to get more useful information out of them.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/uah/from:1978/offset:0.09/trend/plot/rss/from:1978/trend/plot/uah/from:1978/offset:0.09/plot/rss/from:1978/to
Henry@ur momisuglyTim &@ur momisugly all (toxicity of CO2)
David, I find Myrrh’s contributions mostly amusing and the blog would not be the same without him.
Anyway, his contribution about the non-toxicity of CO2 was thoughtfull and well researched.
I am not saying that this discussion about the toxocity of CO2 was on topic, but it flowed naturally from a challenge made by Tim, to tell us how much CO2 would be ideal.
Tim still believes CO2 is toxic, now with a quote from Google. To quote from that quote he made:
“Asphyxiation (=lack of oxygen) is likely to occur before the effects of carbon dioxide overexposure.”
Tim, that sentence means exactly what I have been trying to tell you: you will die of a lack of oxygen before you will note the other (real) effects by too much CO2. That is what the animal tests show. But now I found, on the internet that they have hidden those test results on the animals again. Anyway, you can look it up for yourself in Roempps Chemie Lexicon.
Obviously, with any substance, even if it is non-toxic, like sugar or salt, you might still die or get very sick if you take it in extreme concentration levels. I think that is common sense. The main point was to show that CO2 is non-toxic; to translate from the German: “inhaling large amounts of CO2 is harmful because it dilutes the required oxygen content. SWL=9000mg/m3. Mammals exposed to air containing 20% CO2 become drowsy, at 30% they die (due to asphyxiation!, do you understand that now?) . Nevertheless, rabbits have been shown to live in an atmosphere of 65% CO2 when at the same time enough oxygen was provided. ….& .the conclusion is : dass CO2 als solches kaum ernsthaft giftig sein kann”. The CO2 is not a poisonous, in moderate quantities. In fact, we even drink CO2 everyday, in our cool drinks. I rest my case here (on this subject).
Anyway, if we go from the current 0.04% of CO2 to 8 or 10% we are looking at the problem (of chosing an ideal CO2 content) unrealisticly. That will never happen.
The SWL of 9000 mg/m3 works out to 0.75%.
Note that they are already adding 0.8% (the maximum) in green houses to stimulate growth
I therefore think we can safely allow it to go up from 0.04% to 0.4%.?
I think that if we did this that more benefit will come to the biosphere.
Who agrees with me?
Tim Folkerts says:
I think you are being a little too confident to state categorically it was “due to natural causes”. You would have to rule out conclusively that people did not affect warming.
Tim, my advice to you is to forget about everyone who want to prove things with “calculations”.
Only trust your own tests and measurements
If you want to prove me wrong, bring me the test results of how much radiative warming and how much radiative cooling is caused by the CO2 and how much cooling is caused by CO2by the increase in photosynthesis over the past 40 years,
I need that all in the right dimensions, and tested in the proper concentration range.
My finding is that no one has tested it, in fact no one even knows what the correrct dimenions are of the test results that I am after.
Anywaym, Tim, I did address this issue in this thread.
My (null) hypothesis is that the effect of more CO2 and more GHG’s is zero. I also believe the influence of earth (volcanic activity, etc) is more or less constant (zero) and I also believe that any direct warming of earth by man is more or less zero.
At least, for the past 3-4 decades.
How do I know?
I studied the pattern of warming over the past 4 decades.
namely, in any of the 3 cases above, if they were not zero, the natural pattern you expect to observe, is that minimum temperatures (that happen during the night) must push up the average temperature.
That is not happening.
In fact, the opposite is happening.
I started this blog with this argument,
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/22/omitted-variable-fraud-vast-evidence-for-solar-climate-driver-rates-one-oblique-sentence-in-ar5/#comment-900337
It is the maxima (that happen during the day) that has been pushing up average temperatures. And even the graphs quoted to me by Connally have confirmed that trend (follow the red lines in fig. 3.38 of the AR4 report: the frequency of colder nights is increasing and the frequency of warmer nights are decreasing).
Posiible causes for the observed warming are:
1) more intense sunshine
and/or
2) less clouds
and/or
3) less ozone shielding, allowing more (UV) light in
There might be more causes.
In addition, my finding is that some of that extra heat coming in is trapped by the increasing greenery of earth. Parodoxically, I found the proof of that where they hacked a lot of trees:
http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/de-forestation-causes-cooling
It seems to me if you want earth to be greener, the natural consequence is that it will also get a bit warmer, e.g. compare my results of Grootfonten, Namibia “Kgalagadi Basin”— near the Kalahari desert of southern Africa where there has been extraordinary greening, with those of Tandil, Argentine
http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/henrys-pool-table-on-global-warming
The other Phil says:
February 24, 2012 at 1:32 pm
I agree, the percentage does not change with altitude.
However, the partial pressure does. Think of it as “the number of molecules per breath”. When you use an oxygen tank at altitude, it is the “the number of molecules per breath” that increases – the partial pressure, not the actual pressure.
To further increase the partial pressure, it has been suggested that climbers use rebreathers with CO2 scrubbers.
That said, I agree that the data I presented does not really support my conclusions. I have done some additional computations. Assuming that atmospheric O2 is 20.9%,
if you burn enough to get 8% CO2
20.9 – 8 = 12.9 %
If you simply diluted the amount of oxygen by adding CO2, then
20.9 * 0.92 = 19.2%
The equivalent amount on Everest (314 mb)
20.9 * 0.31 = 6.48 % at sea level (the actual ratio is still 20.9%)
Thus, if 8% CO2 is fatal (yes, I know other posts have questioned that), then the mechanism is not from a lack of oxygen. The reason I mentioned rebreathers above is that that technology demonstrates that it is too much CO2 that is the problem, not the lack of oxygen.
To all the warmists here….I again ask the following:
What is the ideal average global temperature of the earth and why?
What is the ideal CO2 level and why?
Come on now….it’s your game….lets play!
David says:
February 24, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Myrrh, you were adding nothing to the opening post’s condemnation of the IPCC. You were in fact distracting from it on this post, and many others. Further, seeing that your perspective is not respected by many sceptical scientists, your continuing to turn every post into Myrrh’s debate, is providing fodder for the Connelly’s of the world to further pull attention away from the opening post. All of the above has nothing to do with the veracity of your thoughts. Any decent General picks and chooses his battlefield. Only a reckless, doomed to defeat, General fights on every field.
Running scared? I must be winning.
Taken up my challenge yet? Let us know what these companies say to you when you tell them that by making their windows 30% (one example) more efficient at bringing through visible light while blocking thermal infrared that they are making the rooms hotter not colder as they claim, because your greenhouse cartoon proves that visible light heats matter….
Idiotic fisics is one thing, that there are those believe idiotic fisics is another, but here the subject of the piece is the deliberate FRAUD, of those creating the idiotic fisics.
How did you miss that being stressed in the opening post? Blocked it from mind, somehow? Scared to face to implications that, besides anything else, you’ve been conned into believing the Earth is flat? The GHE meme is a deliberate FRAUD.
Do read the piece again, it excellently deconstructs the IPCC fraud on the missing variable the Sun – here’s some snippets you appear to have missed to get you in the mood, my bold:
“Omitted variable fraud: vast evidence for solar climate driver rates one oblique sentence in AR5”
“My training is in economics where we are very familiar with what statisticians call “the omitted variable problem” (or when it is intentional, “omitted variable fraud”). Whenever an explanatory variable is omitted from a statistical analysis, its explanatory power gets misattributed to any correlated variables that are included. This problem is manifest at the very highest level of AR5, and is built into each step of its analysis.”
“Given what I found—systematic fraud—it would not be moral to honor this un-agreed to request, and because my comments are about what is omitted, the fraud is easy enough to expose without quoting the draft.”
“Introduction to the “omitted variable fraud” critique, continued”
“Okay, I guess that means I’m ready to wrap up. Y’all have taken all these tens of billions in research money and used it perpetrate a fraud. As I have documented above, you have perpetrated the grandest and most blatant example of omitted variable fraud in history, but so far only the skeptic half the world knows it. You still have a shot, before global cooling is an established fact, to make a rapid turn around and save some shred of your reputations. But if AR5 comes out insisting that CO2 is a dominant warming influence just as global cooling is proving that the dominant climate driver is our now-quiet sun, then you all are finished on the spot. You’ll still have your filthy lucre, but the tap is going to turn off, and your reputations will be destroyed forever.”
“Can you imagine a worse juxtaposition? Still waging war on CO2 as the sun is already proving that CO2 is entirely beneficial? And this is what the evidence says is going to happen, all of that evidence that you have been so studiously omitting. I’m eager for your embarrassment, but I would much rather see you save yourselves, so that the needed policy reversals can some [come] that much sooner. The anti-CO2 policies that your fraudulent “science” has supported are right now destroying the world economy. You idiots are killing our future. Please wake up and try to save your own reputations before your lunatic anti-science ruins us all.”
How did you miss that being stressed in the opening post? Blocked it from mind, somehow? Scared to face to implications that, besides anything else, you’ve been conned into believing the Earth is flat?
I would like to see this deconstruction circulated to every single participant in the IPCC process, to every newspaper and tv station, to every teacher in every school.., but especially to every member of those science bodies that have now nailed their flag to the mast of this fraud.
I have shown that this FRAUD is deliberate throughout its fictional physics masquerading as real world, it begins with the very basics that are claimed to be real world science, I have shown that these are fictional fisics. This FRAUD is systematic and has been introduced into the education system so that a whole generation believes in an Alice through the looking glass fantasy impossible physics world, a cartoon world with a different Sun.
The opening post puts the REAL Sun back into the picture – it’s conclusion is unavoidable, this is SYSTEMATIC FRAUD.
“The anti-CO2 policies that your fraudulent “science” has supported are right now destroying the world economy. You idiots are killing our future. Please wake up and try to save your own reputations before your lunatic anti-science ruins us all.”
Lunatic anti-science.
Time you woke up?
I therefore think we can safely allow it to go up from 0.04% to 0.4%?
I think that if we did this that more benefit will come to the biosphere.
To put this in perspective, it should be remembered that it took us from 1956 to 2012 (56 years) to get us from 0.03 to 0.04% and not all of that increase is due to man made CO2. A large portion of that increase is due to the natural warming that we experienced over the past 4 decades, if you agree with me that it was natural. Namely, more heat in the oceans, releases more CO2 from the oceans that is dissolved there in the colder waters, from previous times, i.e.
heat + HCO3 =>H20 + CO2
which actually raises the pH
which is (also) better for sea life.
Anyone with ideas how we will ever get to 0.4% CO2 in the atmosphere that we agreed on?
(I am actually amazed if one day we are planning on terra formation, making a planet like Mars habitable, if we don’t teach our kids the truth about global warming / climate change)
AGW sceptic
What is the ideal average global temperature of the earth and why?
Henry says
we cannot influence that….
As my own investigations continued, I came to a cross road where I realized that global warming is really only possible up to a certain point. I believe God gave me that revelation, other people might call it an Eureka moment. Fact is that 70% of earth is covered with water. Natural global warming (more sunshine) must cause the temperature of the water in the oceans to rise. As a result, there must be more evaporation, and that causes more cloudcover. In its turn, this translates into cooling, due to more rain and the extra cloudcover deflecting more light from the sun. Especially here in Africa, I noticed a difference of up to 14 degrees C (cooler) on a day when the clouds move in. ( I measured this in Pretoria on 23/03/10 – this result can be taken as an average for here because of the position of the sun). Now when I considered this, I first stood in amazement again. I remember thinking of the words in Isaiah 40:12-26. I also thought my idea of seeing earth like a giant heat engine and water cooling plant, keeping earth’s temperature more or less constant (within certain limits), must be pretty original. But it was only soon after that I stumbled on a paper from someone who had also been there, done …. (well, God bless him for)…that, in a lot more detail …..look here:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/07/24/willis-publishes-his-thermostat-hypothesis-paper/
Is it not wonderful to realize that what we call “the weather” is really God’s way of keeping the temperature on earth more or less constant?
Without this, we would all be melting or boiling in the heat or freezing in the cold….
I don’t know how to influence temperature, other than by creating a solar sytem with a planet with exactly this much water in it and everything on exactly the same scale as what it is…..
> Natural global warming (more sunshine) must cause the temperature of the water in the oceans to rise. As a result, there must be more evaporation, and that causes more cloudcover
This is wrong. On the off chance that you’re thinking: in a warmer world, to first order relative humidity stays the same, even while absolute humidity increases. Thus, no increase in cloud cover. Or, if you prefer, we have a natural experiment: the earth, from pole to equator. There is no correlation of cloud cover with temperature variation. Or consider interannual or interseasonal variation.
WilliamMC says
There is no correlation of cloud cover with temperature variation.
Henry says (in the same post)
Especially here in Africa, I noticed a difference of up to 14 degrees C (cooler) on a day when the clouds move in. ( I measured this in Pretoria on 23/03/10 – this result can be taken as an average for here because of the position of the sun)
read my post here, earlier in this thread to Beng:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/02/22/omitted-variable-fraud-vast-evidence-for-solar-climate-driver-rates-one-oblique-sentence-in-ar5/#comment-902584
You have no idea. Come and vist a place where it really gets hot, so hot you cannot stand in the sun.
I burnt my ears today and I was only 10 minutes on the roof.
[snip. Still on timeout. ~dbs, mod.]]
Sorry about all my typo’s in my posts.. I found out today it is my keyboard. I have to buy a new one.
From William M. Connolley on February 25, 2012 at 6:11 am:
Fascinating.
As was recently reported here:
So to first order, in a warmer world relative humidity stays the same. Yet relative humidity has been dropping. Again, fascinating.
BTW, per the Wikipedia Humidity entry, “absolute humidity” is defined in chemical engineering as specific humidity is elsewhere. Therefore: Because of the potential confusion, British Standard BS 1339 (revised 2002) suggests avoiding the term “absolute humidity”.
HenryP says: February 24, 2012 at 9:29 pm. “I am not saying that this discussion about the toxocity of CO2 was on topic, but it flowed naturally from a challenge made by Tim, to tell us how much CO2 would be ideal.”
No, someone else made the challenge about the ideal levels of CO2 & temperature.
And I was actually responding to Smokey’s challenge to refute his broad hypothesis that “more CO2 is better”. While some CO2 is better for some things (like many plants), I was showing that — when taken to extremes, more CO2 is definitely not better for other things (like people). The point was that we need to be careful about hypotheses, stating in what ways more CO2 is better for what organisms in what concentrations.