Tamino Once Again Misleads His Followers

Guest post by Bob Tisdale

My blog post October to December 2011 NODC Ocean Heat Content Anomalies (0-700Meters) Update and Comments was cross posted by at WattsUpWithThat here. (As always, thanks, Anthony.) Starting at the January 27, 2012 at 8:44 am comment by J Bowers, I was informed of a critique of my ARGO-era model-data comparison graph by the Tamino titled Fake Predictions for Fake Skeptics. Oddly, Tamino does not provide a link to my post or the cross post at WattsUpWithThat, nor does Tamino’s post refer to me by name. But I believe it would be safe to say that Tamino was once again commenting on my graph that compares ARGO-era NODC Ocean Heat Content data to the climate model projection from Hansen et al (2005), “Earth’s energy imbalance: Confirmation and implications”. If he wasn’t, then Tamino fooled three persons who provided the initial comments about Tamino’s post on the WUWT thread and the few more who referred to Tamino’s post afterwards. The ARGO-era graph in question is shown again here as Figure 1. Thanks for the opportunity to post it once again up front in this post, Tamino.

Figure 1

Take a few seconds to read Tamino’s post, it’s not very long, and look at the graphs he presented in it.

My graph in Figure 1 is clearly labeled “ARGO-Era Global Ocean Heat Content Model-Data Comparison”. The title block lists the two datasets as NODC/Levitus et al (2009) and Hansen et al (2005) Model Mean Trend. It states that the Model Mean Trend and Observations had been Zeroed At Jan 2003. Last, the title block lists the time period of the monthly data as January 2003 to December 2011.

In other words, my graph in Figure 1 pertains to the ARGO-based OHC data and the GISS model projection starting in 2003. It does not represent the OHC data or the GISS model hindcast for the periods of 1993-2011 or 1955-2011, which are the periods Tamino chose to discuss.

Do any of the graphs in Tamino’s post list the same information in their title blocks? No. Do any of Tamino’s graphs compare the climate model projection from Hansen et al (2005) to the NODC OHC observations? No. Does Tamino refer to Hansen et al (2005) in his post? No. Do any of Tamino’s graphs present the NODC OHC data or the Hansen et al model projection during the ARGO-era, starting in January 2003 and ending in December 2011? No.

In other words, Tamino redirected the discussion from the ARGO-era period of 2003-2011 to other periods starting in 1955 and 1993. ARGO floats were not in use in 1955 and they were still not in use in 1993. He also redirected the discussion from the projection of the GISS model mean to the linear trend of the data itself. Yet Tamino’s followers fail to grasp the obvious differences between his post and my ARGO-era graph.

In my post, I explained quite clearly why I presented the ARGO-era model-data comparison with the data zeroed at 2003. Refer to the discussion under the heading of STANDARD DISCUSSION ABOUT ARGO-ERA MODEL-DATA COMPARISON. Basically, Hansen et al (2005) apparently zeroed their model mean and the NODC OHC data in 1993 to show how well their model matched the OHC data from 1993 to 2003. Hansen et al explained why they excluded the almost 40 years of OHC and hindcast data. The primary reason was their model could not reproduce the hump in the older version of the Levitus et al OHC data. Refer to Figure 2, which is a graph from a 2008 presentation by Gavin Schmidt of GISS. (See page 8 of GISS ModelE: MAP Objectives and Results.) I presented that same graph graph by Gavin in my post GISS OHC Model Trends: One Question Answered, Another Uncovered, which was linked in my OHC update from a few days ago.

Figure 2

I zeroed the data for my graph in 2003, which is the end year of the Hansen et al (2005) graph, to show how poorly the model projection matched the data during the ARGO-era, from 2003 to present. In other words, to show that the ARGO-era OHC data was diverging from the model projection. Hansen et al (2005), as the authors of their paper, chose the year they apparently zeroed the data for one reason; I, as the author of my post, chose another year for another reason. I’m not sure why that’s so hard for Tamino to understand.

And then there’s Tamino’s post, which does not present the same comparison. He did, however, present data the way he wanted to present it. It’s pretty simple when you think about it. We all presented data the way we wanted to present it.

Some of the readers might wonder why Tamino failed to provide a similar ARGO-era comparison in his post. Could it be because he was steering clear of the fact that it doesn’t make any difference where the model projection intersects with the data when the trends are compared for the ARGO-era period of 2003 to 2011? See Figure 3. The trend of the model projection is still 3.5 times higher than the ARGO-era OHC trend. Note that I provided a similar graph to Figure 3 in my first response to his complaints about that ARGO-era OHC model-data comparison. See Figure 8 in my May 13, 2011 post On Tamino’s Post “Favorite Denier Tricks Or How To Hide The Incline”.

Figure 3

Figure 3 shows the ARGO-era OHC data diverging from the model projection. But the visual effect of that divergence is not a clear as it is in Figure 1. I presented the data in Figure 1 so that it provided the clearest picture of what I wanted to show, the divergence. That really should be obvious to anyone who looks at Figure 1.

Some might think Figure 1 is misleading. The reality is, those illustrating data present it so that it provides the best visual expression of the statement they are trying to make. The climate model-based paper Hansen et al (2005) deleted almost 40 years of data and appear to have zeroed their data at 1993 so that they could present their models in the best possible light. Base years are also chosen for other visual effects. The IPCC’s Figure 9.5 from AR4 (presented here as Figure 4) is a prime example. Refer to the IPCC’s discussion of it here.

Figure 4

The Hadley Centre presents their anomalies with the base years of 1961-1990. Why did the IPCC use 1901-1950? The answer is obvious. The earlier years were cooler and using 1901-1950 instead of 1961-1990 shifts the HADCRUT3 data up more than 0.2 deg C. In other words, the early base years make the HADCRUT anomaly data APPEAR warmer. It also brings the first HADCRUT3 data point close to a zero deg C anomaly, and that provides another visual effect: the normalcy of the early data.

Base years for anomalies are the choice of the person or organization presenting the data. Climate modelers choose to present their models in the best light; I do not.

Those familiar with the history of Tamino’s complaints about my posts understand they are simply attempts by him to mislead or misdirect his readers. And sometimes he makes blatantly obvious errors like using the wrong sea surface temperature dataset in a comparison with GISS LOTI data. His post Fake Predictions for Fake Skepticsis just another failed critique to add to the list.

ABOUT: Bob Tisdale – Climate Observations

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The NODC OHC data used in this post is available through the KNMI Climate Explorer:

http://climexp.knmi.nl/selectfield_obs.cgi?someone@somewhere

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Camburn
January 28, 2012 12:02 pm

Mr. Tisdale:
I read Mr. Fosters “supposed” rebuttal to your post.
After reading his blog, I can’t see where there is even any similarity. He must be commenting on someone else’s presentation as there is nothing of validity presented in his blog to disagree with anything that you have written.
IF Tamino’s post was a response to yours, the poor lad really nees to increase his reading and statisistical skills as the commitment to clarity was not there.
I am sure he is a nice fellow, but if this was a response to you then he needs to get back to school and learn basic science and how to stay on topic.

David Rigby
January 28, 2012 12:03 pm

Tamino – he’s not as good as he thinks he is, and what good analysis he does is sullied by his seething anger so apparent in his spiteful posts and unwarranted attacks on others. He should be ashamed of his behaviour. I would say ungentlemanly but he’s obviously not one in the first place, and I will say unscientific.

Galvanize
January 28, 2012 12:10 pm

Anyone wishing to take this up with the “Open(?) Minded One” may as well post it here, as it will unlikely get past muster on any PR site for “the cause”.
If it does, will be adjusted accordingly for the full straw man effect. Good luck.

Steven Kopits
January 28, 2012 12:10 pm

I think Hansen is something of a strawman in this debate. Does anyone who reads WUWT take Hansen seriously? So I think using him as a proxy for a more thoughtful AGW perspective is probably not the most balanced view.
I also think Tamino has a point. If we use a longer period, then the 2003 period can be said to be above trend, to which the data later caught up. However, note the chart Tamino uses in his post, the one titled Ocean Heat 0-700 meters, with both fit and prediction. Since about 2008, the data is running below his own prediction line. If the temp anomaly does not increase (I would guess to a UAH equivalent of around 0.4 deg C), then his prediction was also come to look falsifiable around 2015.

Bob B
January 28, 2012 12:12 pm

Tamino blocks me since I caught him Cherry picking. He is nothing but a CAGW religious fanatic who will do anything for the “cause”

January 28, 2012 12:14 pm

The chilean Puyehue Cordon Caulle Volcano have been spitting a big plume since june 2011. I haven’t found any aerosol studies referencing its influence on present cooling. Does it have any influence at all? How long would it take to know? where should I look for good aerosol data?

Camburn
January 28, 2012 12:17 pm

Galvanize says:
January 28, 2012 at 12:10 pm
“Anyone wishing to take this up with the “Open(?) Minded One” may as well post it here, as it will unlikely get past muster on any PR site for “the cause”.
If it does, will be adjusted accordingly for the full straw man effect. Good luck.

Tamino uses the “dissent equates no comment” policy at his site. Is really too bad as a lot of time he is wrong and wouldn’t look so foolish if he allowed thinking folks to comment. Oh well.

Joseph Thoma
January 28, 2012 12:18 pm

Bob, It was nice of you to provide link to Tamino, but since 3 years ago, I do not visit Tamino’s blog, and I do not follow links to his blog. Thanks anyway.

KR
January 28, 2012 12:30 pm

Bob Tisdale – If you’re going to evaluate a linear trend prediction, you need to compare observations to the slope (which you did) and the offset (which you did not) of that prediction.
It’s also useful (although not always done) to show the uncertainty range of the prediction, to see if the observed evolution of the data falls within or outside of that range. Then you can evaluate whether a prediction is close or not.
Tamino was entirely correct in calling you out on your previous post – you misrepresented the ocean heat content prediction by giving an incorrect offset.

Alan Statham
January 28, 2012 12:31 pm

You miss the point completely and spectacularly. Yes, you explained why you chose to present the data in a certain way. The fact that you explained does not make you correct. Your reason was invalid. Adding an arbitrary offset to the predictions of a model could be simply misguided or it could be an attempt to deliberately mislead. Either way, it’s incorrect.

January 28, 2012 12:48 pm

Alan Statham,
Thanx for that content-free post. And KR does the same thing when he labels something he doesn’t happen to agree with as being “misrepresented”.
Why don’t one or both of you super intellects submit an article to WUWT for posting? I suspect the results would be amusing.

Theo Goodwin
January 28, 2012 12:52 pm

And, once again, Tamino is taken to the woodshed by a retiree who is seeking employment. You would think that funding from Big Green could produce better.
Employers, you could not do better than hire Mr. Tisdale. Though he would be greatly missed on WUWT.

Alan Statham
January 28, 2012 12:55 pm

Content free? No, I explained why he was wrong. Sure, I’ll submit an article. What do you want it to be on?

Alan Statham
January 28, 2012 12:58 pm

PS if you want to see what a content-free post actually looks like, scroll up to “Joseph Thoma”. Not sure what value there is in allowing such comments to be posted, except if the intention is to appear hostile to anyone who doesn’t share the peculiar viewpoints expressed here.

Mooloo
January 28, 2012 1:03 pm

I teach High School statistics. If we looked at Tamino’s graph, I would not award top grades to students who confidently predicted the temperature to increase at the trend line he shows. His graph clearly shows that the recent trend is lower than the historical one. You don’t need to be a genius to spot that: any smart High School student will see it.
That the predicted trend is not inconsistent with the most recent value is trivial, and statistically more of less meaningless. Especially when we consider that only in Bob’s time period have we been measuring effectively.
Time will be the winner. Tamino has given himself a few more years for ARGO to turn upwards. If it doesn’t then no amount of whining will stop his predictions being wrong. Nor will Bob’s analysis mean much if the rate were suddenly to start upwards (by some miracle).

Camburn
January 28, 2012 1:05 pm

KR says:
January 28, 2012 at 12:30 pm
The points are very clear and show the divergence very clear.
You may/may not find this link interesting to read.
I would like to see error ranges as standard policy in publishing……wouldn’t you?
The graphs etc presented on a lot of sites are terrible at presenting the true dynamics of the certainty of the data.
http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=5107

Camburn
January 28, 2012 1:06 pm

Why, when you look at the last publication of Church/White concerning OHC, and try to ascertain the errors…..the results become almost laughable……..ok…..past the almost criteria.

Dave
January 28, 2012 1:13 pm

I read the post at Tamino’s BLOG… first time I’ve been there and the last. Good grief! The responses from his followers reminded me of a scene from the movie ” The Mummy”. It’s the scene where the streets are filled with people chanting “Imhotep, Imhotep, Imhotep…”
Tamino, Tamino, Tamino…

kim
January 28, 2012 1:15 pm

Congratulations, you’ve now reached the fabled ‘He who must not be named’ status.
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Berényi Péter
January 28, 2012 1:24 pm

KR says:
January 28, 2012 at 12:30 pm
you misrepresented the ocean heat content prediction by giving an incorrect offset

It’s truly pathetic from you, KR, you can do better than that. Offset of ocean heat content, being arbitrary, can neither be correct nor incorrect. It’s like insisting the zero point of the Celsius scale is the “correct” one as opposed to that of the Fahrenheit scale (or vice versa). Idle pastime, no more.

Fred from Canuckistan
January 28, 2012 1:31 pm

Poor Tamino. All those years and the thousands of postings to promote catastrophic global warming and it is all coming unglued right before his eyes,
The Great Grift, the con that funded so many years of pension eligibility and trips to Bali for The Team is over and they all know it . . .
Back to being nobodies is going to be very unpleasant for all them.

IAmDigitap
January 28, 2012 1:36 pm

That Tamino character’s obvious lack of grasp of what he thinks is proven by the fact he thought Mike Mann’s math, was real.
DO I N.E.E.D. T.O. S.A.Y. ANYTHING M.O.R.E. about that HICK?
Do I need to REMIND you people, that HE THINKS a TREE: is a TREEMOMETER?
Gentlemen, – and here I’m actually speaking to the mods: just because I point out this clown tried to do such torturous lying through mathematics that I no longer even bother looking for any sense to his WILLFUL FRAUDULENCE
that doesn’t mean, what I’m saying’s irrelevant. THERE ARE PEOPLE COMING HERE WHO HAVE NEVER HEARD of the LOON-SPEAK these F.R.A.U.D.S. have BARKED to FLEECE the PEOPLE of the world.
These people are c.r.i.m.i.n.a.l.s.
They are CRIMINALS.
Look: I myself went into the two way telecommunications equipment troubleshooting, calibration/repair maintenance etc business: that’s the electronic engineering associated with transmitting electromagnetic energy through the atmosphere: capturing it, and analyizing it for quality, etc.
But my father – who just died a few months ago God bless ‘im – was first, a Chief of Police for a number of years; THEN, he worked for the I.R.S. as an enforcement agent.
Bullshitters don’t get far with me.
Not if it has to do with the part of the universe mankind’s detected so far.
And this Tamino _ _ _wipe is nothing more, than an ASSISTANT in a FUNDING FRAUD SCAM.
Every single one of us who has worked with instrumentation and mathematics KNOWS; that if WE BROUGHT THAT (TAMINO/MANN/HANSEN/BRIFFA) kind of MATH to OUR BOSS
WE WOULD BE FIRED, and OUR BOSS would TELL OTHERS IN (whatever industry we worked in) THAT THEY SUSPECTED YOU/ME OF B.E.I.N.G. A. F.R.A.U.D.
It’s past unconscionable, it’s CRIMINAL.
And we need to see to it that people are fired and/or hung from yard arms.
Period.
Sorry for the scathing ad hominum but LOOK AT THAT SO-CALLED ‘ANALYSIS’.
It’s OBVIOUSLY – knowing the OTHER things he SAID HE THINKS IS REAL when it’s OBVIOUS he SHOULD KNOW BETTER:
nothing but SCAM
scam
SCAM.

IAmDigitap
January 28, 2012 1:37 pm

Tamino thinks Mannian Statistics is real math.
Do we need to do anything here except put up a list of people who’ve endorsed Mann’s fake math and ‘treemometers?’

KR
January 28, 2012 1:38 pm

Berényi Péter – A linear trend prediction includes both the slope and offset.
Tisdale misrepresented the offset of that prediction, which included the data through 1993 – not at all arbitrary if what you are doing is evaluating that prediction. And somehow you don’t think that’s misrepresentation?
Methinks thou dost protest too much…

January 28, 2012 1:38 pm

Not surprisingly two posts I attempted to place on his site were censored and not “approved” presumably because he could make no valid response.
Anyway, I kept a screen capture of this one here: http://climate-change-theory.com/tricks.jpg

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