“The Oceans will begin to boil…” – yes he actually said that, along with some other silly things. Watch this video:
One wonders, if Dr. Hansen realizes that no scientist has yet presented any credible evidence that the “oceans boiled” millions of years ago when atmospheric CO2 values far exceeded the 390 ppm we have now. Of course, given that this is a “Climate Progress World” production, such inconvenient facts don’t matter, as its all about the scare.
Hansen apparently has Venus on the brain. Even normally alarmist Wikipedia doesn’t embrace Hansen’s “runaway greenhouse effect” on Earth.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runaway_greenhouse_effect
The situation on Earth is very different from that which existed on Venus, as any terrestrial runaway effect is not irreversible on geological timescales. Potential runaway greenhouse effects on Earth may involve the carbon cycle, but unlike Venus will not involve boiling of the oceans. Earth’s climate has swung repeatedly between warm periods and ice ages during its history. In the current climate the gain of the positive feedback effect from evaporating water is well below that which is required to boil away the oceans. Climate scientist John Houghton has written that “[there] is no possibility of [Venus’s] runaway greenhouse conditions occurring on the Earth”.
h/t to WUWT reader “coldlynx”
At 00.29 in Hansen says “It’s in my book”.
What he really meant was “The profit is in my book, so my following comments will help you decide to buy it.”
What he didn’t mean to convey was “I have got to organise some cash flow now that my CAGW game is up.”
John-X says:
January 12, 2012 at 5:26 pm
Lewis Carroll could have written the script and there are overtones of both Looking Glass and Wonderland! (Hansen as Alice?) But I suspect The Hunting of the Snark fits even better. In this scenario Hansen plays the Bellman, whose “rule-of-three” is: “What I tell you three times is true”!
Surely his employer or immediate boss checks to see if Hanson’s work is, you know, rigorous? What does he do at work day to day? Obviously not look at actual data or do any calculations based on actual data. He’s so far removed from common sense its just not funny anymore.
How on earth can a guy like this make such stupid statements, attached to the name NASA, and not get hauled over the coals from his employer? There must be a serious disconnect within the halls of NASA to allow Hanson to continue his diatribe.
This is outrageous.
Remember he is still working at GISS and has the full support of the President and the head of the EPA Lisa Jackson.
Let’s introduce some science into our mocking of Hansen.
Remember the ice age? In order for the waters to form glaciers on the land, the oceans first must be vaporized. How much heat would it take you ask? A lot. Enough to melt the continents. When I first heard that I had to do the math myself.
What climatologists lack is any sort of explanation for any of the mechanisms involved. They can’t say why the oceans wouldn’t simply freeze in place if it was getting colder, where the heat came from to melt the oceans, why it didn’t fall as rain, or snow, but rather gathered at the poles to push South (except where they didn’t). They don’t offer any explanation for why it was getting colder with all this heat.
Try to find a rational explanation anywhere. I double dog dare you.
Velikovsky offered one a half century ago, but I don’t think his ideas would be too well received by the alarmist bunch. Regarding the basic mechanics of the ice age, climatologists have no idea. But they supposedly understand else enough for us to spend trillions of dollars.
“melt the oceans” should be “vaporize the oceans.”
Now you know what’s holding up my Nobel Prize.
Robert Brown says:
January 12, 2012 at 3:28 pm
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OMG, do not get drawn into such silliness, there may be no escape.
tokyoboy says:
January 12, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Looks like just a case of missing data to me. Check it next update.
Apocalypse Now, projections from ‘The Team’;
First the glacial retreat,
Then polar bears die of heat,
Next we run out of oil,
Soon the oceans will boil.
Finis.
Wow !!! Please tell me where he gets his coolaid from! It has got to be way better than LSD.
/ikh
wtf?
Did I miss something? Are there people out there seriously suggesting that we can relocate to another planet to escape “runaway” green house effect? Good thing somebody set us straight that it isn’t realistic.
Jimmie “Death Trains” has finally blown a gasket.
Ric Werme says: January 12, 2012 at 7:27 pm
“Looks like just a case of missing data to me. Check it next update.”
Thanks. I too suspected this was due to some trouble.
If not, and if Jan 2012 data is still low, this may not be a small issue.
R. Gates says:
January 12, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Of course, R. One unhinged wouldn’t recognized another unhinged.
• UNHINGED (adjective)
Sense 1 unhinged [BACK TO TOP]
Meaning:
Affected with madness or insanity
Synonyms:
brainsick; crazy; demented; distracted; unhinged; mad; unbalanced; sick; disturbed
Context example:
a man who had gone mad
Similar:
insane (afflicted with or characteristic of mental derangement)
http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/unhinged.htm
No more needs to be said.
“Greg Cavanagh says:
January 12, 2012 at 7:06 pm
How on earth can a guy like this make such stupid statements, attached to the name NASA, and not get hauled over the coals from his employer? There must be a serious disconnect within the halls of NASA to allow Hanson to continue his diatribe.
This is outrageous”.
There is no disconnect. Skeptics would have seen signs of it by now. No, No, totally connected. James is the point man for several & combined administrations concerns about America’s disconnect with fossil fuel supply chains.
Saying, “The East will ransom our future” was never going to wash politically, internationally or domestically, hence the beautiful correlation between NASA’s reputation, and few scientific activist stalwarts like Hansen, along with the IPCC and bingo, consensus for Policy.
It is a finite world, but they should have given some thought about the believability of their climate change hypothesis over time.
Outrage indeed.
Melt the ice sheets in a century?
I guess we can rest assured that the physics he uses in his other work is equally sound.
Thank goodness for that. Wow.
I’m afraid that the joke is on US. We, the taxpayers of the U.S.A., pay this guy’s six figure salary + benefits…
Barking mad? Perhaps, but let us not forget that Crazy Jim has been spouting the boiling oceans nonsense for a decade or more, and it (Jim’s insane prediction) is (still today) taken as gospel truth by the Thermogeddonistas (including our sitting President and his most likely challenger).
Time for a “Scenario C” t-shirt and mug to be sent to the “unhinged” Nostradamus, as a gentle reminder.
A bit drastic from our friend Jimmy Hansen. AR4 says:
IPCC-XXXI/INF. 3
Thresholds of type II might be those that are linked directly to the key intrinsic processes of the climate system itself (often non-linear) and might be related to maintaining stability of those processes or some of the elements of the climate system discussed earlier. Some thresholds that all would consider dangerous have no support in the literature as having a non-negligible chance of occurring. For instance, a “runaway greenhouse effect”—analogous to Venus–
appears to have virtually no chance of being induced by anthropogenic activities. So our focus will be on those events that the literature suggests have a non-negligible chance of being induced by anthropogenic activities.
Oh fine. An authorative source! We can now say that CAGW does mean that positive water vapor feedback will lead to boiling oceans ACCORDING TO A LEADING CAGW THEORIST. As this is now a prediction of the theory, I propose commencing with the experiments, to TEST the theory’s prediction; and should the HANSEN EFFECT be validated, the construction of a water vapor turbine driven by the CAGW runaway effect. Subsidies should not be necessary as this could finally be the limitless energy source humanity has been waiting for.
I like how he tries to use the “runaway global cooling effect” to scare people into (also) believing in a “runaway global warming effect”. Which one is it, dude?
I kinda like him, too.
From “Centuries”;
From the pine of yamal,
a stick shall be wrought,
and Hansler joined in,
the same hymn for all.
No apologies to Nostradamus. He should of seen it coming, ……