Frank Lansner on Foster and Rahmstorf 2011

This is a repost from Lansner’s website, since Tamino aka Grant Foster won’t allow it to be discussed on his own website, I thought I’d give a forum for discussion here. – Anthony

The real temperature trend given by Foster and Rahmstorf 2011?
Posted by Frank Lansner (frank) on 17th December, 2011

(whoops, I’m not allowed to link to this article at Taminos site… I’ve never written on Taminos site, but he seems to know not to let me write – Frank)

Fig1. Foster and Rahmstorf recently released a writing on ”The real global warming signal”.

http://tamino.wordpress.com/2011/12/06/the-real-global-warming-signal/ The point from F&R is, I believe, debating to counter the “sceptic” argument that temperatures has stagnated during the last decade or more. Since this is an essential issue in the climate debate I decided to investigate if F&R did a sensible calculation using relevant parameters.

Hadcrut global temperatures do have a rather flat trend these days:

Fig2. It is possible to go back to 1 may 1997 and still see flat trend for Hadcrut temperature data, so this data set will be subject for this writing:

Can F&R´s arguments and calculations actually induce a significant warm trend even to Hadcrut 1998-2011?

F&R use three parameters for their corrections, ENSO, AOD (volcanic atmospheric dimming) and TSI (Total Solar Irradiation).

“Objection”: TSI is hardly the essential parameter when it comes to Solar influence in Earth climate.

More appropriate it would be to use the level “Solar Activity”, “Sunspot number”, “Cloud cover” “Magnetism” or “Cosmic rays”. TSI is less relevant and should not be used as label.

Fig3. FF&R has chosen MEI to represent EL Nino and La Nina impacts on global temperatures. MEI is the “raw” Nina3,4 SST that directly represents the EL Nino and La Nina, but in the MEI index, also SOI is implemented. To chose the most suited parameter I have compared NOAA´s ONI which is only Nina3.4 index and MEI to temperature graphs to evaluate which to prefer.

Both Hadcrut and RSS has a slightly better match with the pure Nina 3,4 ONI index which will therefore be used in the following. (Both sets was moved 3mth to achieve best it with temperature variations).

Fig4.

After correcting for Nina3,4 index (El Nino + La Nina) there is still hardly any trend in Hadcrut data 1998-2011. (If MEI is chosen, this results in a slight warming trend of approx 0,07 K/decade for the corrected Hadcrut data 1998-2011).

Fig5. I then scaled to best fit for SATO volcano data set. For the years after 1998, there is not really any impact from volcanoes, and thus we can say:

There is no heat trend in Hadcrut data after 1998 even when corrected for EL Nino/La Nina and volcanoes.

However, this changes when inducing Solar activity, I chose Sun Spot Number, SSN, to represent the Solar activity:

Fig6.

To best estimate the scaling of SSN I detrended the Nino3,4 and volcano corrected Hadcrut data and scaled SSN to best fit. Unlike F&R, I get the variation of SSN to equal 0,2K, not 0,1 K as F&R shows.

Now see what happens:

Fig7.

F&R describes the Solar activity (“TSI” as they write…) to be of smallest importance in their calculations. However, it is only the Solar activity, SSN, that ends up making even the Hadcrut years after 1998 show a warm trend when corrected. On Fig7 I have plotted the yearly results by F&R for Hadcrut and they are nearly identical to my results.

So, a smaller warming from my using Nino 3,4 combined with the larger impact of Solar activity I find cancels out each other.

ISSUES

For now it has been evaluated what F&R has done, now lets consider issues:

1) F&R assume that temperature change from for exaple El Nino or period of raised Solar activity etc. will dissapear fully immidiately after such an event ends. F&R assumes that heat does not accumulate from one temperature event to the next.

2) Missing corrections for PDO

3) Missing corrections for human aerosols – (supposed to be important)

4) Missing corrections for AMO

5) F&R could have mentioned the effect of their adjustments before 1979

Issue 1: F&R assume that all effect from a shorter warming or cooling period is totally gone after the effect is gone.

Fundamentally, the F&R approach demands that all effects of the three parameters they use for corrections only have here-and-now effects.

Example:

Fig8.

In the above approaches, the Nino3,4 peaks are removed by assuming that all effects from for example a short intense heat effect can be removed by removing heat only when the heating effect occurs, but not removing any heat after the effect it self has ended.

Now, to examine this approach I compare 2 datasets. A) Hadcrut temperatures, “corrected” for Nina3,4 , volcanoes and SSN effects as shown in the above – detrended. B) The Nino3,4 index indicating El Ninos/La Ninas and thus the timing of adjustments. (We remember, that the Nino3,4 was moved 3 months to fit temperature data before adjusting):

Fig9.

After for example “removing” heat caused by El Ninas during the specific El Nino periods, you see heat peaks 1 – 2 years later in the “Nino3,4” corrected detrended temperature data.

That is: After red peaks you see black peaks..

This means that the approach of systematically only removing heat when heat effect is occurring is fundamentally wrong.

Wrong to what extent? Typically, the heat not removed by correcting for Nina3,4 shows 1-2 years later than the heat effect. Could this have impact on decadal temperature trends?

Maybe so: In most cases of El Nino peaks, first we have the Nino3,4 red peak, then 1-2 years after the remaining black peak in temperature data that then dives. But notice that normally the dives in remaining heat (black) normally occurs when dives in the red Nino3,4 index starts.

This suggests, that the remaining heat from an El Nino peak is not fast disappearing by itself, but rather, is removed when colder Nino3,4 conditions induces a cold effect.

In general, we are working with noisy volcano and SSN corrected data, so to any conclusion there will be some situations where the “normal” observations is not seen strongly.

Now, what happens is we focus on periods where the Nino3,4 index for longer periods than 2 years is more neutral – no major peaks?

Fig10.

Now, the detrended Hadcrut temperature “corrected” for Nina3,4, Volcanoes and SSN –  black graph – has been 2 years averaged:

The impact of El Ninos and La Ninas is still clearly visible in data supposed to be corrected for these impacts. Since this correction by F&R is their “most important” correction, and it fails, then we can conclude that F&R 2011 is fundamentally flawed and useless.

Reality is complex and F&R has mostly seen the tip of the iceberg, no more.

More: Notice the periods 1976-1981 and  2002-2007. In both cases, we a period of a few years with Nino3,4 index rather neutral. In these cases, the temperature level does not change radically.

In the 1976-81 period, the La Ninas up to 1977 leaves temperatures cold, and they stay cold for years while Nino3,4 remains rather neutral. After the 2002-3 El Nino, Nino3,4 index remains rather neutral, and temperatures simply stays warm.

Issue 2: Missing corrections for PDO

Quite related to the above issue of ignoring long term effects of temperature peaks, we see no mention of the PDO.

Fig11. Don Easterbrook suggests that a general warming occurs when PDO is warm, and a general cooling occurs when PDO is cold. (PDO = Pacific Decadal Oscillation). That is, even though PDO index remains constant but warm, the heat should accumulate over the years rather than be only short term dependent strictly related to the PDO index of a given year. This is in full compliance with the long term effects of temperature peaks shown under issue 1.

Don Easterbrook suggests 0,5K of heating 1979-2000 due the PDO long term heat effect.

I think the principle is correct, I cant know if the 0,5K is correct – it is obviously debated – but certainly, you need to consider the PDO long term effect on temperatures in connection with ANY attempt to correct temperature data. F&R fails to do so, although potentially, PDO heat is suggested to explain all heat trend after 1979.

I would like to analyse temperature data for PDO effect if possible.

Fig12. PDO data taken from http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/PDO.latest

To analyse PDO-effect we have to realise that PDO and Nino3,4 (not surprisingly) have a lot in common. This means, that I cant analyse PDO effects in a dataset “corrected” for Nino3,4 as it would to some degree also be “corrected” for PDO…

More, this strong resemblance between Nino3,4 and PDO has this consequence:

When Don Easterbrook says that PDO has long term effect, he’s also saying that Nino3,4 has long term effects – just as concluded in issue 1.

Fig13. Thus, I am working with PDO signal compared to Hadcrut temperatures corrected for volcanoes and SSN only. The general idea that heat can be accumulated from one period to the next (long term effects) is clearly supported in this compare. If PDO heat (like any heat!) can be expected to be accumulated, then we can se for each larger PDO-heat-peak temperatures on Earth rises to a steady higher level.

Fig14. Note: in the early 1960´ies, the correction of volcano Agung is highly questionably because different sources of data concerning the effect of Agung are not at all in agreement. Most likely I have over-adjusted for cooling effect of Agung. On the above graph from Mauna Loa it appears that hardly any adjustment should be done…

Scientists often claim that we HAVE to induce CO2 in models to explain the heat trend. Here we have heat trends corrected for volcanoes and SSN, now watch how much math it takes to explain temperature rise after 1980 using PDO:

Fig15. “Math” to explain temperature trend using PDO. Due to the uncertainty on data around 1960 (Agung + mismatch with RUTI world index/unadjusted GHCN) I have made a curve beginning before and after 1960. For each month I add a fraction of the PDO signal to the temperature of last month, that is, I assume that heat created last month “wont go away” by itself, but is regulated by impacts of present month. This approach is likely not perfect either but it shows how easy temperature trends can be explained if you accept PDO influence globally.

(In addition I made some other scenarios where temperatures would seek zero to some degree, and also where I used square root on PDO input which may work slightly better, square root to boost smaller changes near zero PDO).

Now, how can PDO all by itself impact a long steady heat on Earth?? Does heat come from deep ocean or??

Fig16. It goes without saying that SSN and PDO (and thus Nina3,4 as shown) are related.

Is it likely that PDO affects Sun Spot Numbers? No, so we can conclude that Solar activity drives temperatures PDO which again can explain temperature changes on Earth.

Suddenly this analysis has become more interesting than F&R-evaluation, but this graph also shows that F&R was wrong on yet another point: Notice on the graph that we work the temperatures “CORRECTED” for Solar activity… But AFTER each peak of SSN we see accumulation of heat on earth still there after “correcting” for solar activity. Thus, again, it is fundamentally wrong to assume no long term affects of temperature changes. This time, temperature effect can be seen in many years after the “corrected” Solar activity occurred.

Conclusion: PDO appears Solar driven and can easily explain temperature developments analysed.

Thus perhaps the most important factors to be corrected for – if you want to know about potential Co2 effects – was not corrected for by F&R 2011.

Issue 3: Missing corrections for human aerosols – that are supposed to be important

It is repeatedly claimed by the AGW side in the climate debate that human sulphates / aerosols should explain significant changes in temperatures on earth.

When you read F&R I cant stop wonder: Why don’t they speak about Human aerosols now?

http://www.manicore.com/anglais/documentation_a/greenhouse/greenhouse_gas.html

Fig17. In basically all sources of sulphur emissions it appears that around 1980-90 these started to decline.

If truly these aerosols explains significant cooling, well, then a reduced cooling agent after 1980 should be accounted for when adjusting temperature data to find “the real” temperature signal.

F&R fails to do so.

Issue 4: Missing corrections for AMO

AMO appears to affect temperatures in the Arctic and also on large land areas of the NH.

Fig18. In fact, the temperatures of the AMO-affected Arctic is supposed to be an important parameter for global temperature trends, and thus correcting for AMO may be relevant.

The AMO appears to boost temperatures for years 2000-2010 , so any correction of temperatures using AMO would reduce temperature trend after 1980.

F&R do not mention AMO.

Issue 5: F&R could have mentioned the effect of their adjustments before 1979

F&R only shows impacts after 1979, possibly due to the limitations of satellite data.

Fig19. “Correcting” Hadcrut data for nino3,4 + volcanoes it turns out that the heat trend from 1950 is reduced around 0,16K or around 25%. Why not show this?

I chose 1950 as staring point because both Nina3,4 and SATO volcano index begins in 1950.

Conclusion

F&R appear seems to assume that temperature impacts on Earth only has impact while occurring, not after. If you heat up a glass of water, the heat wont go away instantly after removing the heat source, so to assume this for this Earth would need some documentation.

Only “correcting” for the instant fraction of a temperature impact and not impacts after ended impact gives a rather complex dataset with significant random appearing errors and thus, the resulting F&R “adjusted data” for temperatures appears useless. At least until the long term effect of temperature changes has been established in a robust manner.

Further, it seems that the PDO, Nin3,4 and Solar activities are related, and just by using the simplest mathematics (done to PDO) these can explain recent development in temperatures on Earth. The argument that “CO2 is needed to explain recent temperature trends” appears to be flat wrong.

Thus “correcting” for PDO/Nina3,4 long term effect might remove heat trend of temperature data all together.

Solar activity is shown to be an important driver PDO/Nino3,4 and thus climate.

Finally, can we then use temperature data without the above adjustment types?

Given the complexities involved with such adjustments, it is definitely better to accept the actual data than a datasets that appears to be fundamentally flawed.

Should one adjust just for Nino3,4 this lacks long time effects of Nina3,4 and more it does not remove flat trend from the recent decade of Hadcrut temperature data.

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Rob
December 18, 2011 2:44 am

The biggest threat to biased scientists and junk science are not skeptics, it is time.

December 18, 2011 2:52 am

By ‘corrected’ they mean ‘fiddled to fit the theory’.

Henri Masson
December 18, 2011 3:15 am

One additional point: the “climate (dynamical” system is highly non linear: you cannot just add or substract effects and palying with moving averages is deadly mislaeading.
In such a complex “dynamical” system, there are no longer “partial” causes neither effects, due to multiple, direct and indirect, posiitve and negative feedbacks. The only cause that can be detected without ambiguity is the movement of planets and “alien vistors” (meteottes, etc) in the solar system, that can hardly be considered as resulting from anthropogenic CO2, volcanoes, ocean fluctuations, solar spots, etc. But the symmetric can be true, if one considers basic rules of astrophysics and geophysics. And no scientific evidence is able to contredict this, so far.
This is an easy simple lesson of logic and modesty to teach to the carbo-centrists alarmists, I guess. It is indeed a total lack of modesty to think, as is done in primitve religions, that making offrands (understand penalizing our development and welfare by carbon taxes and other market mechanisms), to mother GAIA (the Earth) will make her more “conciliant” with the irresponsible human polluters and destructors of the Planet some are claiming we are.

Roger Knights
December 18, 2011 3:17 am

crosspatch says:
December 17, 2011 at 9:30 pm
sheesh, you’re correct, I forgot October!
Facepalm.

Time slip? Missing time? (Cue in spooky music.)

December 18, 2011 3:23 am

I believe that the sun is the dominant determinant of our climate, followed by local factors, e.g. volcanism.
However tonight I am swayed by the ice age predictions of Robert W Felix, who seems to account quite well for current weather and climate phenomenae.
Are not the major evolutionary epochs but a scrambling of life between ice ages ?
Whilst humanity will survive and adapt to whatever happens to it, it behoves us to prepare for untoward circumstances.
Looking at the ‘big picture’, i.e no detailed analytical skills required, the next ice age is a matter of time away.
Where are we more likely to live than die ? I’m thinking Australia.

Dave A
December 18, 2011 3:25 am

Nice work over at “Open” Mind Bomber_the_Cat
There’s no concept that they may be in error. Hey for all I know 0.03902% of the atmosphere that is CO2 rising by 0.0002% per year may have the consequences they are claiming in it’s name.
It’s just that I doubt it and I am taking the time and effort to find out the truth.
What they are not understanding is that surrounded by the inputs of a myriad of other variables Climate Science is not as clear cut as 2+2=4
Now if they could entertain that thought for just one second without resorting to hurling personal abuse then maybe just maybe
In the meantime I won’t be going back
Take Care
Dave

Editor
December 18, 2011 3:31 am

M.A.Vukcevic says: “Only ‘good thing’ that came out of it was that secretive Tamino is Grant Foster himself .”
This was evident after the first round of Climategate emails.

December 18, 2011 3:35 am

There’s no such thing as an average temperature across locations. It’s a logical fallacy. You can validly derive an average across time … monthly mean, yearly mean, etc … for one location, but the mere act of finding a spatial average assumes that all locations are responding to the same influences. Using that average to find global influences is circular reasoning.
The global-influence assumption needs to be proven first, by separately examining long-term trends at several long-term well-calibrated stations. But we already have those long-term trends, and they are completely inconsistent. Some go up over the last 100 years, some go down, some are about flat. Even neighboring areas are inconsistent. There is no global trend, so you can’t begin by assuming any global influence.
Just try a few of these:
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/temp-and-precip/time-series/index.php?parameter=tmp&month=9&year=2011&filter=12&state=45&div=10

Blade
December 18, 2011 3:37 am

Dennis Nikols [December 17, 2011 at 9:53 pm] says:
“Masturbation is to sex what adjusted data is to science.”

ROTFL! Funny, sad, and true at the same time.

Bomber_the_Cat [December 18, 2011 at 2:23 am] says:
“I tried commenting on the Tamino site which, in a parody of Orwell’s novel ‘1984’, is called ‘Open Mind’.
I was immediately struck by the fact that none of the comments there were controversial. They always agreed with whatever brilliant article Tamino had written, beginning with such phrases as “Brilliant analysis’, ‘Super exposisition’, ‘Well done’ etc. Now, being a cat, I easily vomit, and there is only such much of that twaddle that I can stomach..
I quickly found out why this is so. Any controversial or critical comments are of course censored. But it is worse than that! – if that is possible. Tamino actually edits your comments to make them say what HE wants, and then replies to the bits he thinks he might have a clever answer to!
Personally, I can’t see the point of a site like that. A site where sycophantic sheep just chant “Four legs good, two legs bad”. Nothing can be learned there. The only surprising thing is that some people, presumably of very low self-esteem, still bother to go there.”

Another satisfied customer at Tamino’s ‘Closed Mind’. Well stated.

Kelvin Vaughan
December 18, 2011 3:50 am

Have most scients been on mind bending drugs at university?

December 18, 2011 3:55 am

Fine detail: a useful review of some shoddy data adjustments in the posted paper
Big picture: a succinct and informative summary in the comments by davidmhoffer on December 17, 2011 at 7:24 pm

Roger Knights
December 18, 2011 3:57 am

Rob says:
December 18, 2011 at 2:44 am
The biggest threat to biased scientists and junk science are not skeptics, it is time.

Spoken like General Kutuzov.

Fitzcarraldo
December 18, 2011 4:10 am

I dont know why you bother to discuss anything written by Mr Ramstorf, Hansen et al etc…,and give him ANY scientific respectability as none of these guys deserve any. idem for AW desire to be part of IPCC *apologies to AW but thats how I feel about this(

Editor
December 18, 2011 4:14 am

Frank Lansner, you wrote in the post, “F&R use three parameters for their corrections, ENSO, AOD (volcanic atmospheric dimming) and TSI (Total Solar Irradiation). ‘Objection’: TSI is hardly the essential parameter when it comes to Solar influence in Earth climate.More appropriate it would be to use the level ‘Solar Activity’, ‘Sunspot number’, ‘Cloud cover’ ‘Magnetism’ or ‘Cosmic rays’. TSI is less relevant and should not be used as label.”
That’s nonsense. TSI, which you object to, and sunspot numbers, which you used, vary in synch. All you have to do is convert them to anomalies and standardize them to see the relationship.
http://i39.tinypic.com/15n9a8k.jpg
The correlation coefficient is 0.96.
And how is cloud cover a measure of the influence of solar variability on earth’s climate? Cloud cover is obviously a measure of cloud amount, not solar variability. Your grasp of reality is lacking.

Bill Illis
December 18, 2011 4:35 am

Nice analysis Frank.
Not using the AMO is the most important problem in the Foster and Rahmstorf paper, among others.
The paper was about removing “the impact of known factors of short-term variability on temperatures” (quote) from 1979 to 2010, so that we could see how much global warming that was forced by GHGs actually happened.
The AMO is another important “known factor of short-term variability” and Tamino knows that full well. He has written enough about it and worked with the data enough.
The AMO cycle is responsible for at least half of the residual warming (from GHGs) that Tamino found. (And Tamino knows that and that is why he left it out of the paper). It is actually statistically independent of the other forcings so it is its own source of natural variability.

cui bono
December 18, 2011 4:35 am

The AR5 ZOD states (chap 10 All Attributions, p18):
“In summary, while the trend in global mean temperature over the past decade is not
significantly different from zero”, folllowed by a long list of the usual suspect explanations as to why this shouldn’t have any effect on the belief in AGW.
If the IPCC at this stage can accept the lack of warming and yet carry on with the Cause, why is it so important for Foster and Rahmstorf to deny it?

DirkH
December 18, 2011 4:36 am

The way I see it Tamino has constructed a non-physical model that delivers a near-linear trend. There’s nothing principally wrong with doing that; if the result informs us in some useful fashion, we can still later go and find out why it works. Now, the purpose of a trend is to inform us about the future, so the key question is, does his model have predictive skill? In other words, obviously the time series from 1979 to now give a beautiful quasilinear trend because he made it so, but that doesn’t say anything about the future.
So, what I want to say is his computations are devoid of a physical basis, and they are a posteriori numerology; and he didn’t even validate his model by separating the available data into a training set and a validation set, so he didn’t even run a hindcasting test.
If his model worked out in the future, there would be this ominous “hidden” quasi-linear rise in temperatures, with some “natural variation” added that masks it… obviously, the moment the “natural variation” dropped to zero, temperatures would then magically return to the previously hidden quasilinear trend. But there’s no physical mechanism that could explain that – where would the energy for this come from (or go to), and more importantly, why.
One would have thought that the involvement of a high-ranking IPCC scientist like Rahmstorf would have served as a quality control; Rahmstorf should be an expert in modeling.

DirkH
December 18, 2011 4:37 am

Fitzcarraldo says:
December 18, 2011 at 4:10 am
“I dont know why you bother to discuss anything written by Mr Ramstorf, Hansen et al etc”
It’s fun.

Rhys Jaggar
December 18, 2011 4:58 am

Seems to me like science is doing its job.
I saw this sort of thing to a lesser degree doing medical research years ago. I made a terrible error once by pointing out a fairly fundamental control not done in a published Nature paper by a senior Professor, which would completely alter the conclusions if the result were not as hoped. My career wasn’t helped by doing so. That’s life……
This looks like a usual situation of ‘need a paper published, where can I get it published?’
This paper does what perhaps the referees should have been doing first time around. Namely raising a large number of issues for the author to address prior to publication.
I hope the scientists continue to probe qualitative and quasi-quantitative relationships between solar output and oceanic parameters, as that will, in my judgement, be key to future understanding of climate cycles.
One thing which appears to be absolutely clear: even those who believe in major solar impacts on climate can’t agree whether it will get warmer or cooler the next 50 years. Which does kind of imply that putting our political eggs in one basket isn’t the way to go…….

Steve In S.C.
December 18, 2011 5:06 am

If El Tamino is to be believed, then Trombe walls do not work.
Clearly, that is not the case. Mine works wonderfully.

Editor
December 18, 2011 5:10 am

Well done, Frank.
It is clear that we need a much longer period than a few decades before we will see any real trends

weibel
December 18, 2011 6:00 am

Bob Tisdale: Ad nauseAm

michel
December 18, 2011 6:01 am

This is a classic problem in the falsification of hypotheses. You always have to choose between whether the experimental observation really does falsify, or whether to invoke ad hoc explanations, which is what Foster does. Its ‘really’ warming, and the only reason we get these odd measurements is that other things are happening to distort them.
The classic case was the motion of the planets. They ‘really’ were circular and the earth ‘really’ was the center of the universe round which everything rotated, its just you needed a few extra circular epicycles to make it all fit.
In the end, what destroys this stuff is overall credibility.

Editor
December 18, 2011 6:33 am

Code and data are available through http://tamino.wordpress.com/2011/12/15/data-and-code-for-foster-rahmstorf-2011/ – there’s no direct mention of that in the comments of the main post.

December 18, 2011 6:51 am

Frank Lansner on Foster and Rahmstorf 2011
Posted on December 17, 2011 by Anthony Watts
The point from F&R is, I believe, debating to counter the “sceptic” argument that temperatures has stagnated during the last decade or more.
I think they still have done a linear fit for the temperatures for the time interval from 1979 to 2010. For the headcrut3 data this results to y = +0.01372 * year – 27.38
Since this is an essential issue in the climate debate I decided to investigate if F&R did a sensible calculation using relevant parameters.
Hadcrut global temperatures do have a rather flat trend these days:

Yes, but that is irrelevant because it is a different time interval.
Finally, can we then use temperature data without the above adjustment types?
Yes. But the relevant point in climate science is not a linear fit of 0.01372 °C per year in the time interval of 1979 to 2010; the relevant point is to explain with scientific methods and physics all relevant effects which are written in these temperature spectra. It has absolutely no scientific value to create a linear fit, if there is no scientific base for linearity. Morover it is a crime to make such linear fit, because it destroys the truth of reconstructed global temperature data for other objects.
We can use temperature data in comparison with other data. Sea level and/or solar tide spectra:
http://www.volker-doormann.org/images/sealevel_vs_abc.gif
An Excel command to calculate a linear fit is not really an scientific analysis; an analysis may be as example a frequency analysis of the temperature spectra in respect to the non sinus functions of the synodic couples in the solar system.
If this comparison shows that relevant solar tide effects appear time coherent as well in the terrestrial temperatures (over two millennia or in the 60s of the last century) and in the global sea level oscillation, then there is no doubt, that there IS a strong relation between the Sun and the terrestrial climate.
Straw man
The straw man fallacy is when you misrepresent someone else’s position so that it can be attacked more easily, knock down that misrepresented position, then conclude that the original position has been demolished. It’s a fallacy because it fails to deal with the actual arguments that have been made.
All arguments presenting a ‘linear fit’ are straw man fallacies, which should lead to the increasing CO2 idol.
V.