Frank Lansner on Foster and Rahmstorf 2011

This is a repost from Lansner’s website, since Tamino aka Grant Foster won’t allow it to be discussed on his own website, I thought I’d give a forum for discussion here. – Anthony

The real temperature trend given by Foster and Rahmstorf 2011?
Posted by Frank Lansner (frank) on 17th December, 2011

(whoops, I’m not allowed to link to this article at Taminos site… I’ve never written on Taminos site, but he seems to know not to let me write – Frank)

Fig1. Foster and Rahmstorf recently released a writing on ”The real global warming signal”.

http://tamino.wordpress.com/2011/12/06/the-real-global-warming-signal/ The point from F&R is, I believe, debating to counter the “sceptic” argument that temperatures has stagnated during the last decade or more. Since this is an essential issue in the climate debate I decided to investigate if F&R did a sensible calculation using relevant parameters.

Hadcrut global temperatures do have a rather flat trend these days:

Fig2. It is possible to go back to 1 may 1997 and still see flat trend for Hadcrut temperature data, so this data set will be subject for this writing:

Can F&R´s arguments and calculations actually induce a significant warm trend even to Hadcrut 1998-2011?

F&R use three parameters for their corrections, ENSO, AOD (volcanic atmospheric dimming) and TSI (Total Solar Irradiation).

“Objection”: TSI is hardly the essential parameter when it comes to Solar influence in Earth climate.

More appropriate it would be to use the level “Solar Activity”, “Sunspot number”, “Cloud cover” “Magnetism” or “Cosmic rays”. TSI is less relevant and should not be used as label.

Fig3. FF&R has chosen MEI to represent EL Nino and La Nina impacts on global temperatures. MEI is the “raw” Nina3,4 SST that directly represents the EL Nino and La Nina, but in the MEI index, also SOI is implemented. To chose the most suited parameter I have compared NOAA´s ONI which is only Nina3.4 index and MEI to temperature graphs to evaluate which to prefer.

Both Hadcrut and RSS has a slightly better match with the pure Nina 3,4 ONI index which will therefore be used in the following. (Both sets was moved 3mth to achieve best it with temperature variations).

Fig4.

After correcting for Nina3,4 index (El Nino + La Nina) there is still hardly any trend in Hadcrut data 1998-2011. (If MEI is chosen, this results in a slight warming trend of approx 0,07 K/decade for the corrected Hadcrut data 1998-2011).

Fig5. I then scaled to best fit for SATO volcano data set. For the years after 1998, there is not really any impact from volcanoes, and thus we can say:

There is no heat trend in Hadcrut data after 1998 even when corrected for EL Nino/La Nina and volcanoes.

However, this changes when inducing Solar activity, I chose Sun Spot Number, SSN, to represent the Solar activity:

Fig6.

To best estimate the scaling of SSN I detrended the Nino3,4 and volcano corrected Hadcrut data and scaled SSN to best fit. Unlike F&R, I get the variation of SSN to equal 0,2K, not 0,1 K as F&R shows.

Now see what happens:

Fig7.

F&R describes the Solar activity (“TSI” as they write…) to be of smallest importance in their calculations. However, it is only the Solar activity, SSN, that ends up making even the Hadcrut years after 1998 show a warm trend when corrected. On Fig7 I have plotted the yearly results by F&R for Hadcrut and they are nearly identical to my results.

So, a smaller warming from my using Nino 3,4 combined with the larger impact of Solar activity I find cancels out each other.

ISSUES

For now it has been evaluated what F&R has done, now lets consider issues:

1) F&R assume that temperature change from for exaple El Nino or period of raised Solar activity etc. will dissapear fully immidiately after such an event ends. F&R assumes that heat does not accumulate from one temperature event to the next.

2) Missing corrections for PDO

3) Missing corrections for human aerosols – (supposed to be important)

4) Missing corrections for AMO

5) F&R could have mentioned the effect of their adjustments before 1979

Issue 1: F&R assume that all effect from a shorter warming or cooling period is totally gone after the effect is gone.

Fundamentally, the F&R approach demands that all effects of the three parameters they use for corrections only have here-and-now effects.

Example:

Fig8.

In the above approaches, the Nino3,4 peaks are removed by assuming that all effects from for example a short intense heat effect can be removed by removing heat only when the heating effect occurs, but not removing any heat after the effect it self has ended.

Now, to examine this approach I compare 2 datasets. A) Hadcrut temperatures, “corrected” for Nina3,4 , volcanoes and SSN effects as shown in the above – detrended. B) The Nino3,4 index indicating El Ninos/La Ninas and thus the timing of adjustments. (We remember, that the Nino3,4 was moved 3 months to fit temperature data before adjusting):

Fig9.

After for example “removing” heat caused by El Ninas during the specific El Nino periods, you see heat peaks 1 – 2 years later in the “Nino3,4” corrected detrended temperature data.

That is: After red peaks you see black peaks..

This means that the approach of systematically only removing heat when heat effect is occurring is fundamentally wrong.

Wrong to what extent? Typically, the heat not removed by correcting for Nina3,4 shows 1-2 years later than the heat effect. Could this have impact on decadal temperature trends?

Maybe so: In most cases of El Nino peaks, first we have the Nino3,4 red peak, then 1-2 years after the remaining black peak in temperature data that then dives. But notice that normally the dives in remaining heat (black) normally occurs when dives in the red Nino3,4 index starts.

This suggests, that the remaining heat from an El Nino peak is not fast disappearing by itself, but rather, is removed when colder Nino3,4 conditions induces a cold effect.

In general, we are working with noisy volcano and SSN corrected data, so to any conclusion there will be some situations where the “normal” observations is not seen strongly.

Now, what happens is we focus on periods where the Nino3,4 index for longer periods than 2 years is more neutral – no major peaks?

Fig10.

Now, the detrended Hadcrut temperature “corrected” for Nina3,4, Volcanoes and SSN –  black graph – has been 2 years averaged:

The impact of El Ninos and La Ninas is still clearly visible in data supposed to be corrected for these impacts. Since this correction by F&R is their “most important” correction, and it fails, then we can conclude that F&R 2011 is fundamentally flawed and useless.

Reality is complex and F&R has mostly seen the tip of the iceberg, no more.

More: Notice the periods 1976-1981 and  2002-2007. In both cases, we a period of a few years with Nino3,4 index rather neutral. In these cases, the temperature level does not change radically.

In the 1976-81 period, the La Ninas up to 1977 leaves temperatures cold, and they stay cold for years while Nino3,4 remains rather neutral. After the 2002-3 El Nino, Nino3,4 index remains rather neutral, and temperatures simply stays warm.

Issue 2: Missing corrections for PDO

Quite related to the above issue of ignoring long term effects of temperature peaks, we see no mention of the PDO.

Fig11. Don Easterbrook suggests that a general warming occurs when PDO is warm, and a general cooling occurs when PDO is cold. (PDO = Pacific Decadal Oscillation). That is, even though PDO index remains constant but warm, the heat should accumulate over the years rather than be only short term dependent strictly related to the PDO index of a given year. This is in full compliance with the long term effects of temperature peaks shown under issue 1.

Don Easterbrook suggests 0,5K of heating 1979-2000 due the PDO long term heat effect.

I think the principle is correct, I cant know if the 0,5K is correct – it is obviously debated – but certainly, you need to consider the PDO long term effect on temperatures in connection with ANY attempt to correct temperature data. F&R fails to do so, although potentially, PDO heat is suggested to explain all heat trend after 1979.

I would like to analyse temperature data for PDO effect if possible.

Fig12. PDO data taken from http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/PDO.latest

To analyse PDO-effect we have to realise that PDO and Nino3,4 (not surprisingly) have a lot in common. This means, that I cant analyse PDO effects in a dataset “corrected” for Nino3,4 as it would to some degree also be “corrected” for PDO…

More, this strong resemblance between Nino3,4 and PDO has this consequence:

When Don Easterbrook says that PDO has long term effect, he’s also saying that Nino3,4 has long term effects – just as concluded in issue 1.

Fig13. Thus, I am working with PDO signal compared to Hadcrut temperatures corrected for volcanoes and SSN only. The general idea that heat can be accumulated from one period to the next (long term effects) is clearly supported in this compare. If PDO heat (like any heat!) can be expected to be accumulated, then we can se for each larger PDO-heat-peak temperatures on Earth rises to a steady higher level.

Fig14. Note: in the early 1960´ies, the correction of volcano Agung is highly questionably because different sources of data concerning the effect of Agung are not at all in agreement. Most likely I have over-adjusted for cooling effect of Agung. On the above graph from Mauna Loa it appears that hardly any adjustment should be done…

Scientists often claim that we HAVE to induce CO2 in models to explain the heat trend. Here we have heat trends corrected for volcanoes and SSN, now watch how much math it takes to explain temperature rise after 1980 using PDO:

Fig15. “Math” to explain temperature trend using PDO. Due to the uncertainty on data around 1960 (Agung + mismatch with RUTI world index/unadjusted GHCN) I have made a curve beginning before and after 1960. For each month I add a fraction of the PDO signal to the temperature of last month, that is, I assume that heat created last month “wont go away” by itself, but is regulated by impacts of present month. This approach is likely not perfect either but it shows how easy temperature trends can be explained if you accept PDO influence globally.

(In addition I made some other scenarios where temperatures would seek zero to some degree, and also where I used square root on PDO input which may work slightly better, square root to boost smaller changes near zero PDO).

Now, how can PDO all by itself impact a long steady heat on Earth?? Does heat come from deep ocean or??

Fig16. It goes without saying that SSN and PDO (and thus Nina3,4 as shown) are related.

Is it likely that PDO affects Sun Spot Numbers? No, so we can conclude that Solar activity drives temperatures PDO which again can explain temperature changes on Earth.

Suddenly this analysis has become more interesting than F&R-evaluation, but this graph also shows that F&R was wrong on yet another point: Notice on the graph that we work the temperatures “CORRECTED” for Solar activity… But AFTER each peak of SSN we see accumulation of heat on earth still there after “correcting” for solar activity. Thus, again, it is fundamentally wrong to assume no long term affects of temperature changes. This time, temperature effect can be seen in many years after the “corrected” Solar activity occurred.

Conclusion: PDO appears Solar driven and can easily explain temperature developments analysed.

Thus perhaps the most important factors to be corrected for – if you want to know about potential Co2 effects – was not corrected for by F&R 2011.

Issue 3: Missing corrections for human aerosols – that are supposed to be important

It is repeatedly claimed by the AGW side in the climate debate that human sulphates / aerosols should explain significant changes in temperatures on earth.

When you read F&R I cant stop wonder: Why don’t they speak about Human aerosols now?

http://www.manicore.com/anglais/documentation_a/greenhouse/greenhouse_gas.html

Fig17. In basically all sources of sulphur emissions it appears that around 1980-90 these started to decline.

If truly these aerosols explains significant cooling, well, then a reduced cooling agent after 1980 should be accounted for when adjusting temperature data to find “the real” temperature signal.

F&R fails to do so.

Issue 4: Missing corrections for AMO

AMO appears to affect temperatures in the Arctic and also on large land areas of the NH.

Fig18. In fact, the temperatures of the AMO-affected Arctic is supposed to be an important parameter for global temperature trends, and thus correcting for AMO may be relevant.

The AMO appears to boost temperatures for years 2000-2010 , so any correction of temperatures using AMO would reduce temperature trend after 1980.

F&R do not mention AMO.

Issue 5: F&R could have mentioned the effect of their adjustments before 1979

F&R only shows impacts after 1979, possibly due to the limitations of satellite data.

Fig19. “Correcting” Hadcrut data for nino3,4 + volcanoes it turns out that the heat trend from 1950 is reduced around 0,16K or around 25%. Why not show this?

I chose 1950 as staring point because both Nina3,4 and SATO volcano index begins in 1950.

Conclusion

F&R appear seems to assume that temperature impacts on Earth only has impact while occurring, not after. If you heat up a glass of water, the heat wont go away instantly after removing the heat source, so to assume this for this Earth would need some documentation.

Only “correcting” for the instant fraction of a temperature impact and not impacts after ended impact gives a rather complex dataset with significant random appearing errors and thus, the resulting F&R “adjusted data” for temperatures appears useless. At least until the long term effect of temperature changes has been established in a robust manner.

Further, it seems that the PDO, Nin3,4 and Solar activities are related, and just by using the simplest mathematics (done to PDO) these can explain recent development in temperatures on Earth. The argument that “CO2 is needed to explain recent temperature trends” appears to be flat wrong.

Thus “correcting” for PDO/Nina3,4 long term effect might remove heat trend of temperature data all together.

Solar activity is shown to be an important driver PDO/Nino3,4 and thus climate.

Finally, can we then use temperature data without the above adjustment types?

Given the complexities involved with such adjustments, it is definitely better to accept the actual data than a datasets that appears to be fundamentally flawed.

Should one adjust just for Nino3,4 this lacks long time effects of Nina3,4 and more it does not remove flat trend from the recent decade of Hadcrut temperature data.

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Bob L
December 18, 2011 7:10 am

Old joke but it applies here. An FBI agent, a CIA agent, and an LAPD officer are arguing about which agency is the most competent. They see a rabbit and decide to find out who is the fastest at catching the animal. The FBI man goes after it first. He returns with the rabbit ten minutes later. They let the rabbit go. It’s now the CIA man’s turn. He comes back with the rabbit in only five minutes. Finally, the LAPD officer goes on his hunt. Time passes. Five, ten, fifteen, thirty, forty minutes… The first two agents begin to look. Deep inside the woods, in a clearing, they come upon the LAPD officer. He has a bear tied to a tree and is beating on it. He keeps yelling, “Admit you’re the rabbit! Admit you’re the rabbit.”
They can torture this data all they want, but it won’t turn a flat temperature trend into a rabbit.

NetDr
December 18, 2011 7:21 am

The temperature consists of a 1/2 ° C warming superimposed on a 60 year sine wave caused by ocean cycles like the PDO.
Ant on sine wave
#Least squares trend line; slope = 0.267218 per year
http://tiny.cc/r7g2c
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/sine:10/from:1950/to/plot/sine:10/from:1988/to:1992/trend
By choosing the year 1978 as the start year they only include the warming cycle of the sine wave and not the cooling portion. They are like the ant.
To eliminate the effect of the sine wave you must take one integer cycle.
If you do this the warming is 1/2 ° C per century and is of interest only to climatologists.
.

Mike M
December 18, 2011 7:26 am

Thank you Anthony for going to the trouble of wading through what most of us wish we had the time and patience to do when we realize that such nonsense doesn’t pass our ‘smell test’.

Ferdinand Engelbeen
December 18, 2011 7:50 am

Bob Tisdale says:
December 18, 2011 at 2:40 am
Please identify which cloud cover dataset you’re referring to. I know of no cloud clover dataset that “varies 10% synchronously with variations on the sun.” That sounds like a fabrication.
It looks like around +/- 1-2% change in cloud cover inversely correlated with the 0.1% change in TSI over a solar cycle… See Fig, 1 in http://folk.uio.no/jegill/papers/2002GL015646.pdf
Not bad what a small change in direct solar energy can do (or indirect via…). Anyway, a change of +/- 1% in average low cloud cover at the right place on earth represents several W/m2.

Editor
December 18, 2011 8:07 am

weibel says: “Bob Tisdale: Ad nauseAm”
Thanks. Spelling error acknowledged.

DirkH
December 18, 2011 8:10 am

Oh, BTW, recently I stumbled across this Spiegel page showing regional temperature increases in Germany over the last decades… and a decrease in cloudiness! (relative increase in sun hours: second last line)… Funnily, arch-warmist Spiegel is waffling on in the text about CAGW without noticing the consequences of the data they themselves show…
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/0,1518,700267-14,00.html
Here’s a global map showing decrease in cloud cover from 1984 to 2004… source seems to be GISS so I’d treat that data with caution.
http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2006/01/11/jumping-to-conclusions-frogs-global-warming-and-nature/

Editor
December 18, 2011 8:11 am

Ferdinand Engelbeen: Thanks for the link. The low level cloud amount data ends in 1999. If memory serves, low cloud cover no longer follows.

richcar1225
December 18, 2011 8:33 am

It is curious that F & R would ignore literature that clearly shows a 10 to 20 year delay between group sunspot number and temperature reconstructions from ice cores However it is only recently that solar scientists like Lockwood have now recognized the importance of top down solar forcing on a change in jet stream patterns as the NAO changes phases. The return of negative winter NAO two ywars ago along with the slowing of the Atlantic conveyer belt, decline in AMO and the buildup in arctic ice volume are likely the result of a solar decline that began after 1990. Can not these slowly changing patterns of atmospheric and ocean circulation phases not simply be treated as positive feedbacks to the small decline in TSI?

Spen
December 18, 2011 8:39 am

Sorry Frank but literacy counts. if you can’t spell or use Spellcheckm your work loses credibilty.

Editor
December 18, 2011 8:47 am

Ferdinand Engelbeen: Yup. Memory had served me well. With a more recent update, the ISCCP low cloud amount data is no longer inversely related to Solar:
http://i42.tinypic.com/2hfq5fp.jpg

Andrew Krause
December 18, 2011 8:52 am

Sorry Frank but literacy counts. if you can’t spell or use Spellcheckm your work loses credibilty. I think you mean credibility, Spen.

Ferdinand Engelbeen
December 18, 2011 9:11 am

Bob Tisdale says:
December 18, 2011 at 8:11 am
Ferdinand Engelbeen: Thanks for the link. The low level cloud amount data ends in 1999. If memory serves, low cloud cover no longer follows.
From memory, there were different data series from different satellites, some (a military satellite) still following the correlation, others not. But I did find a few interesting articles by Nigel Calder:
http://calderup.wordpress.com/category/3c-falsification-tests/ about the different datasets and
http://calderup.wordpress.com/2010/05/03/do-clouds-disappear/ where he describes the effect of Forbush events and
http://www.dsri.dk/getfile.php3?id=290 a reaction of Svensmark on the allegations of Peter Laut on data manipulation in Svensmark’s articles…
I have no idea who is right here, but I have the impression that the Svensmark hypothesis must be killed with all means…

RockyRoad
December 18, 2011 9:11 am

Volker Doormann says:
December 18, 2011 at 6:51 am


Yes. But the relevant point in climate science is not a linear fit of 0.01372 °C per year in the time interval of 1979 to 2010; the relevant point is to explain with scientific methods and physics all relevant effects which are written in these temperature spectra. It has absolutely no scientific value to create a linear fit, if there is no scientific base for linearity. Morover it is a crime to make such linear fit, because it destroys the truth of reconstructed global temperature data for other objects.

You must be joking. A linear fit is just as valid as any other fit. You’re not part of the IPCC that refuses to be subject to FOIA yet says using a linear fit is a crime, are you? That’s about as hypocritical as it comes, sir. And please, what is this “truth of reconstructed global temperature dta for other objects”?
There are so many “relevant effects” that contribute to climate that if the overall impact can be determined for a reasonable time period to be represented with a linear fit, that really carries more information than resolving all “relevant effects” into their own special “fits” as “climate scientists” are wont to do. Look, people live in a world that’s the sum total of all your “relevant effects”, they don’t really care what the various components are doing. These components of which you speak don’t individually impact their crops, their snowpack, their vacation scheduling or anything else they do. They don’t individually impact ice at the poles, either.
But it does appear that these “relevant effects” are what “climate scientists” have been using to make all sorts of interesting adjustments to the temperature (for example, “can’t find my data and I won’t show you my methodology” Phil Jones, or “won’t (even under threat of law) show you my data and can’t find my methodology” Michael Mann) that have most likely foisted some sort of self-serving scam on the global population in the guise of science and in servitude to the UN to thrust a global government on an unsuspecting and trusting Earth. (These two aren’t “scientists”; they are “climate scientists”; “scientists” are open about their data and methodology; “climate scientists” are not–they have a lot to hide, and if you don’t believe me, reference CG1 and CG2 resource materials.)
So shame, shame, shame on these charlatans. If they have valid concerns regarding the climate, let Michael Mann open up all his data, emails, methodologs, etc., and let Phil Jones do the same. I’m suspecting they’d be tossed into prison as a consequence and charged with this real crime of which you speak.

JJ
December 18, 2011 9:12 am

Sorry Frank but literacy counts. if you can’t spell or use Spellcheckm your work loses credibilty.
Only amongst those who have such low understanding of the content that their only possible interface with the subject is via the spelling of the words used to communicate it.
And who cares about them? Most of them can’t even spell “credibility” even with WordPress’s built in spell checker, let alone know how to interpret that concept correctly.
Three “i”s, BTW.

Carlo Napolitano
December 18, 2011 9:28 am

The visual inspection of the F&R figure depicting the rate (C/decade) of the analyzed datasets one thing appears absolutely clear (independently from any judgment on the methods used). This relates to the huge error bars (no mention whether it is SD or SEM) particularly after 1998. The uncertainty level is so high that I bet the trends will be no longer significant. Another possibility is that the data in their last portion may not be normally distributed. Thus it would be interesting to understand which kind of statistics was used.
I am missing something?
Carlo

DirkH
December 18, 2011 9:28 am

Nigel Calder warns of possible issues with ISCCP cloud cover data sets.
http://calderup.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/further-attempt-to-falsify-the-svensmark-hypothesis/

December 18, 2011 9:46 am

Bob Tisdale, not even at christmas time you can write politely.
I wrote in a comment that variations in cloud cover was 10% and that this corresponded to an area of 3% of the Earth.
You call this a “fabrication” ?
Even if I remembered wrong, such an accusation is realy unfair, nothing new.
Now, take a look at the coud cover variation:
http://www.climate4you.com/images/CloudCoverAllLevel%20AndWaterColumnSince1983.gif
Taken from Climate4you.
I may be wrong, but I think not. And either way: There is no need for such bad tone.

DEEBEE
December 18, 2011 9:53 am

Have two fundamental problems with the paper and usually most climatology papers.
1) No clear indication other than “trust me” the other things I tested are pretty similar”. Either present them so we can judge or STFU (sorry)
QUOTE:
We characterize the ENSO by the multivariate el Ni˜no index, or MEI (Wolter and Timlin 1993, 1998).8 For volcanic influence we use the aerosol optical thickness data from Sato
et al (1993), or AOD.9 To characterize the solar influence on temperature we use the total solar irradiance (TSI) data from Fr¨ohlich (2006). To test whether the results might be sensitive
to these choices, we also did experiments characterizing el Ni˜no by the southern oscillation index (SOI) rather than MEI, characterizing volcanic aerosols by the volcanic forcing
estimate of Ammann et al (2003) rather than the AOD data from Sato et al, and using monthly sunspot numbers as a proxy for solar activity rather than TSI. None of these substitutions affected the results in a significant way, establishing that this analysis is robust to the choice of data to represent exogenous factors.
=======================
2) The parameters calculated typically have a range of 100% if not more and some even pass across 0. Traditionally (science and engineering not sociology) the latter should be dropped or a better model engaged. The former (the range) says to me that when we apply the parameters back into the independent variable the calculated values would have such a broad haze around observed values to be totally meaningless for any further analysis. The best conclusion to draw is that these are interesting juvenile efforts or they are only being published because they further the story line. Science it is not.

December 18, 2011 9:54 am

Frank “TSI is less relevant and should not be used as label.”
Bob Tisdale: That’s nonsense. TSI, which you object to, and sunspot numbers, which you used, vary in synch.”
Yes, Bob we ALL know that…!
But why use TSI as label when oscillations here are themselves are certainly not the best explanation for Solar effect on Earth climate?

December 18, 2011 9:57 am

Both approaches, Lansner’s and Foster and Rahmstorf’s, suffer from the same weakness: they mix ‘forcing’ indices such as solar (TSI, sun spots, cosmic radiation) and volcanoes which are clearly independent of the dependent variable (temperature) with others (MEI and other oscillation indices) which are dependant, to an unknown degree, on the same ‘forcing’ indices and on the dependent variable itself.
As both pairs of authors have shown, by a judicious choice of indices and analysis you can prove whatever you want. I’m sure that some people using the PDO, which goes back to 1900, could even produce a hockey stick.

December 18, 2011 10:02 am

“Frank Lansner’s second issue was,” 2) Missing corrections for PDO.”
Bob: “There is no correction for the PDO.”
Do global temperature warm in preiods of warm PDO´s?
I´d say yes.
So is it bulletproof science from F&R not to consider that the present heating trend occurs during warm PDO?
I think not.
And Yes, I MENTIONED Don Easterbrook. No more. Is that a crime?

December 18, 2011 10:02 am

Off topic, but with the death today of Vaclav Havel the Czech President, the world has lost one of the few statesman to keep an open mind on climate change.

December 18, 2011 10:05 am

To Ron Maley:
You write: “As both pairs of authors [Lansner and F&R] have shown, by a judicious choice of indices and analysis you can prove whatever you want. ”
What did I “proove”:
I just concluded the obvoius: THINGS ARE COMPLICATED! 🙂
They are not?
K.R. Frank

Steve M. from TN
December 18, 2011 10:19 am

Spen says:
December 18, 2011 at 8:39 am
“Sorry Frank but literacy counts. if you can’t spell or use Spellcheckm your work loses credibilty.”
Frank is Danish, and English is not his first language. What is your excuse?

December 18, 2011 10:26 am

Bob, T.
Here it appears more clearly, Cloud cover – surprisingly – varies synchronous with cosmic rays:
http://www.theresilientearth.com/files/images/Cosmic_rays_and_cloud_cover-marsh.jpg
On the above graph, variations are 2,5% and the point is (!), that this magnitude of variation is not found ind TSI data.