A link to where to download the new FOIA2011.zip file is posted below the fold – This will be a top post for a few days -NEW STORIES APPEAR BELOW THIS ONE -I’ve also reversed the order of the updates to be newest at top for better visibility – Anthony
UPDATE50: 1:15 PM PST 11/30 The genesis of RealClimate.org seems to have been found. Surprisingly, the BBC’s Roger Harrabin seems to have been involved in the genesis meeting.
UPDATE49: 10:00 AM PST 11/30 While not email related, just as Climategate breaks David Suzuki commits an egregious propaganda error second only to the 10:10 video where kids are blown up for not going along with carbon reduction schemes at school. He’s targeting kids and Santa Claus at Christmas – Santa’s home is melting.
UPDATE48: 9:20 AM PST 11/30 Dr. Phil Jones on the “lack of warming” -he may need a backup plan.
UPDATE47: 9AM PST 11/30 Fudge factor collection in the emails, or is climate modeling a social issue?
UPDATE46: A look at UEA/CRU’s email infrastructure and email systems in general suggests that the “deleted” emails to/from Phil Jones and others at CRU probably still exist and can be subject to FOIA.
UPDATE45: 1:30PM PST 11/29 If there was award for clueless timing, this would win it no contest: Penn State to lecture on “climate ethics”
UPDATE44: 9AM PST 11/29 Mike Mann reprises the role of Captain Queeg in The Cain Mutiny when seeing de Freitas being vindicated by the publisher of Climate Research (see the update in the article).
UPDATE43: 8AM PST 11/29 An Excel Spreadsheet with Climategate 1 and 2 emails ordered chronologically should be helpful in determining that supposedly missing”context”
UPDATE42: 7AM PST 11/29 The CRU crew says: “what we really meant was…”
UPDATE41: 4AM PST 11/29 James Padget schools Steve Zwick – Guide to Defending the Indefensible. Some people just can’t handle Climategate.
UPDATE40: 12AM PST 11/29 Penn State has the same “look the other way” problem with Climategate as they did with the Jerry Sandusky scandal.
UPDATE39: It seems “vexatious” is Dr. Phil Jones favorite new feeling word after summer 2009.
UPDATE38: Severinghaus says Mike Mann didn’t give a straight answer regarding why trees don’t work as thermometers after 1950
UPDATE37: Climate sensitivity can’t be quantified with the current data according to NCAR’s Wigley, with paleo data – even less so.
UPDATE36: Dr. Chris de Freitas responds to the ugly attempt by The Team at getting him fired.
UPDATE 35: “Stroppy” Dr Roger Pielke Sr. shows just how much a “old boys network” the peer review process is.
UPDATE34: More internal dissent of the hockey stick. Mann tries to beat down the concern over “hide the decline” while not letting the dissenting scientist know there was a decline.
UPDATE33: Gobsmacking! Rob Wilson proves McIntyre and McKittrick correct in an email to colleagues at CRU, showing that when random noise time series are fed into Mike Mann’s procedure, it makes “hockey sticks”. The confirmation that M&M is right never leaves the walls of CRU.
UPDATE32: 9:30PM PST 11/27 BREAKING – Canada to pull out of Kyoto protocol. Another Climategate fallout ?
UPDATE31: 4:30PM PST 11/27 BOMBSHELL An absolutely disgusting string of communications that shows the tribal attempt at getting an editor of a journal fired on made up issues – all because he allowed a publication that didn’t agree with “the Team”. This is ugly, disturbing, and wrong on every level.
UPDATE30: 9:45 AM PST 11/27 Newsbytes. Major crack in the warming wall at the UK prime minister’s office. BBC in collusion with Climategate scientists.
UPDATE29: 9AM PST 11/27 The saga of the missing station data at CRU and the “pants on fire” defense of it as told by Willis Eschenbach. Dr. Phil Jones is between a rock and a hard place, quite.
UPDATE 28: 1:30PM PST 11/26 An email shows the UNFCCC considers activists an essential tool saying “…organized and deeply committed environmental activism has long been an important part of the UNFCCC process…”
UPDATE27: 7AM PST 11/26 Climategate 2 features prominently in WUWT’s newest feature “Hits and Misses”
UPDATE26: 2:50 PM 11/25 Two separate examples show obstruction and collusion by members of “The Team” to prevent any dissenting science from being properly considered by the NRC in 2007.
UPDATE25: 2PM 11/25 Keith Briffa asks another colleague to delete email to avoid FOIA
UPDATE24: 1:30PM 11/25 New Climategate 1/2 combined search engine here
UPDATE23: 9AM PST 11/25 via bishop-hill, strange infighting:
#4101 – Edward Cook tells Phil Jones that Mike Mann is “serious enemy” and “vindictive”. Mike Mann had criticized his work.
Apparently Mann went “a little crazy” over a paper showing the MWP exists.
Details here
UPDATE22: 11AM PST 11/24 Am unsurprising admission from a BBC environmental reporter to Dr. Phil Jones that they really have no impartiality at all (ho ho) when it comes to climate issues.
UPDATE21: 9:50AM PST 11/24 “FOIA2011″ and Climategate – A Chinese-POTUS connection?
UPDATE20: 9:30AM PST 11/24 World renowned climatologist Phil Jones can’t even plot a temperature trend line in Excel. I’ve offered a solution that WUWT readers can help with.
UPDATE19: 9AM PST 11/24 Gail Combs finds some disturbing connections between the Team and The World Bank
UPDATE18: 1:45PM Scott Mandia, aka “Supermandia” wins the award for the silliest climategate rebuttal, ever. It’s like stupid on steroids.
UPDATE17: 12:55PM PST 11/23 Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. has an excellent piece on “Gatekeeping” related to Trenberth and the Pielke-Landsea hurricane paper and the IPCC. You may recall Landsea resigned from the IPCC over this. Pielke says: “The gatekeeping of the IPCC process is abundantly clear, and the shadowy suggestion that they can find out who the reviewers are from another colleague is a bit unsettling as well.” Trenberth looks particularly bad here.
UPDATE16: 11:30AM PST 11/23 Insider scientist at CRU says our “reaction to Mike Mann’s errors was not particularly honest” – story here
UPDATE15: 7:50AM 11/23 Ric Werme found an email from the late John L. Daly to Mike Mann and the team – it is well worth a read here
UPDATE14: 2:45 AM PST 11/23 Willis Eschenbach offers a guest post here explaining how his FOIA requests went astray. Mr. David Palmer was the Freedom of Information Officer for the CRU at the time. In the newly released emails, he expresses his frustration with the whole procedure.
UPDATE13: 12:05AM 11/23 Craig Stone writes:
I have published a searchable database of the emails at http://foia2011.org
All email addresses and phone numbers are automatically redacted. It’s extremely rudimentary right now, but I’ll be refining the functionality and improving the search capabilities and navigation over the course of the next week.
UPDATE 12: 9:30 PM PST We’ve known for some time that Al Gore made up a bunch of claims in his AIT movie that simply weren’t true. Now this revelation in the new email batch shows that in the case of Kilimanjaro’s disappearing snows, even Phil Jones and Dr. Lonnie Thompson don’t believe global warming is the cause, even though Thompson put out a press release nearly a year ago saying just that. Told ya so. Pants on fire and all that. Anything for “the cause” right?
UPDATE11: 4:45PM PST Kevin Trenberth gets all misty eyed and sing-songy at Christmas here
UPDATE10: 4:30PM PST Some thoughts on cracking the big remaining all.7z file here
UPDATE9: 2:25PM PST Josh weighs in with the first satirical cartoon here
UPDATE8: 140PM PST Mike Mann shows his true colors:
email 1680.txt
date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:03:05 -0400
from: “Michael E. Mann”..
subject: Re: Something not to pass on
to: Phil Jones
Phil,
I would not respond to this. They will misrepresent and take out of context anything you give them. This is a set up. They will certainly publish this, and will ignore any evidence to the contrary that you provide. s They are going after Wei-Chyung because he’s U.S. and there is a higher threshold for establishing libel. Nonetheless, he should
consider filing a defamation lawsuit, perhaps you too.
I have been talking w/ folks in the states about finding an investigative journalist to investigate and expose McIntyre, and his thusfar unexplored connections with fossil fuel interests.Perhaps the same needs to be done w/ this Keenan guy.
I believe that the only way to stop these people is by exposing them and discrediting them….
UPDATE7: 1:20 PM PST Phil Jones and Tom Wigley calls another scientist (The former state climatologist of California) a “jerk” for publishing his UHI results.
UPDATE6: 12:08PM PST Here’s an email that collaborates a radio interview I did in Seattle with Thomas Peterson in summer 2007, yes these are 100% real emails, no doubt whatsoever now. More here: Climategate 2.0 – NCDC: “Mr. Watts gave a well reasoned position”
UPDATE 5: 11:00AM PST In a statement, UEA doesn’t deny these emails, but posts about the whitewash investigations of the past, like they matter now.
UPDATE4: 9:45 AM PST I’ve changed the headline from Climategate 2.0 to Climategate 2.0 emails – They’re real and they’re spectacular! with a hat tip to Jerry Seinfeld. The relevance of that headline is particularly interesting in the context of where Dr. James Hansen of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) has his office in NYC.
UPDATE3: 9:25 AM PST – Having read a number of emails, and seeing this quote from Mike Mann in the Guardian:
When asked if they were genuine, he said: “Well, they look like mine but I hardly see anything that appears damning at all, despite them having been taken out of context. I guess they had very little left to work with, having culled in the first round the emails that could most easily be taken out of context to try to make me look bad.”
I’m going to conclude they are the real deal. I’ve posted a BitTorrent link to the file below. One big difference between Climategate 1 and 2 is that in 1, it took days for the MSM to catch on, now they are on top of it.
UPDATE2: 8:45AM PST The Guardian has a story up by Leo Hickman, and this excerpt suggests they may be the real deal:
Norfolk police have said the new set of emails is “of interest” to their investigation to find the perpetrator of the initial email release who has not yet been identified.
The emails appear to be genuine, but this has yet to be confirmed by the University of East Anglia. One of the emailers, the climate scientist Prof Michael Mann, has confirmed that he believes they are his messages.
UPDATE1: 8:20 AM PST These emails have not been verified yet, and this story was posted by one of my moderating staff while I was asleep. Until such time they are verified, tread lightly because without knowing what is behind the rest of the zip file, for all we know it’s a bunch of recipes and collection of lorem ipsum text files. I’m working to authenticate these now and will report when I know more – Anthony Watts
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Early this morning, history repeated itself. FOIA.org has produced an enormous zip file of 5,000 additional emails similar to those released two years ago in November 2009 and coined Climategate. There are almost 1/4 million additional emails locked behind a password, which the organization does not plan on releasing at this time.
The original link was dropped off in the Hurricane Kenneth thread at about 4 AM Eastern. It is still there.
Some initial snippets floating around the blogosphere:
<3373> Bradley: I’m sure you agree–the Mann/Jones GRL paper was truly pathetic and should never have been published. I don’t want to be associated with that 2000 year
“reconstruction”.
<3115> Mann: By the way, when is Tom C going to formally publish his roughly 1500 year
reconstruction??? It would help the cause to be able to refer to that
reconstruction as confirming Mann and Jones, etc.
<3940> Mann: They will (see below) allow us to provide some discussion of the synthetic
example, referring to the J. Cimate paper (which should be finally accepted
upon submission of the revised final draft), so that should help the cause a
bit.
<0810> Mann: I gave up on Judith Curry a while ago. I don’t know what she think’s she’s
doing, but its not helping the cause
<2440> Jones: I’ve been told that IPCC is above national FOI Acts. One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the
process
<2094> Briffa: UEA does not hold the very vast majority of mine [potentially FOIable emails] anyway which I copied onto private storage after the completion of the IPCC
task.
JeffId has some initial reaction
From the ReadMe file:
/// FOIA 2011 — Background and Context ///
“Over 2.5 billion people live on less than $2 a day.”
“Every day nearly 16.000 children die from hunger and related causes.”
“One dollar can save a life” — the opposite must also be true.
“Poverty is a death sentence.”
“Nations must invest $37 trillion in energy technologies by 2030 to stabilize
greenhouse gas emissions at sustainable levels.”
Today’s decisions should be based on all the information we can get, not on
hiding the decline.
This archive contains some 5.000 emails picked from keyword searches. A few
remarks and redactions are marked with triple brackets.
The rest, some 220.000, are encrypted for various reasons. We are not planning
to publicly release the passphrase.
We could not read every one, but tried to cover the most relevant topics such
as…
==============================================================
Here’s one about UHI that is convincing:
cc: liqx@cma.xxx
date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:16:37 +0800
from: =?gb2312?B?JUQ1JUM1JUMwJUYyJUMzJUY0IA==?= <limmy@xxx>
subject: Re:Re: thank you
to: p.jones@xxx
Dear Phil,
Again I find that the emails from my CMA mail boxes can not get to you.
From attaches please find the data of 42 urban stations and 42 rural stations (by your
list) and a reference of homogenization of the data. we have tested and adjusted the abrupt
discontinuities of the data during 1951-2001, but the following years (2002-2004) has only
been quality controled and added to the end of the series, but we found the relocation
during these 3 years have minor effects on the whole series in most of the stations.
I partly agree with what Prof. Ren said. and we have done some analysis on the urban heat
island effect in China during past years. The results are differnt with Ren’s. But I think
different methods, data, and selection of the urban and rural stations would be the most
important causes of this. So I think it is high time to give some new studies and graw some
conclusion in this topic. I hope we can make some new achives on this both on global scale
and in China.
Best
Qingxiang
—– Original Message —–
From: “Phil Jones” < p.jones@xxxx >
To: “Rean Guoyoo” < guoyoo@xxxx >
Cc: “%D5%C5%C0%F2%C3%F4” < limmy@xxx>, < liqx@cma.xxx >
Sent: 2007-09-24 16:25:59 +0800
Subject: Re: thank you
Dear Guoyu,
I think I emailed you from America last week. I am away again next week,
but here this week.
I do think that understanding urban influences are important. I will
wait for Dr Li Qingxiang to send some data, but there is no rush, as I am
quite busy the next few weeks.
Best Regards
Phil
At 00:59 20/09/2007, you wrote:
The following message was returned back when I sent via cma site. I send it again via
this site. I also forwarded this message to Dr, Li Qingxiang.
Regards,
Guoyu
Dear Phil,
Thank you for your message of Sept 11, 2007. I have just been back from the US. Sorry
for the delayed response.
I noted the discussion on blog sites. This is indeed a big issue in the studies of
climate change.
In the past years, we did some analyses of the urban warming effect on surface air
temperature trends in China, and we found the effect is pretty big in the areas we
analyzed. This is a little different from the result you obtained in 1990. I think there
might be at least three reasons for the difference: (1) the areas chosen in the analyses
are different; (2) the time periods analyzed are obviously varied, and the aft-1990
period is seeing a more rapid warming in most areas of China; (3) the rural stations
used for the analyses are different, and we used some stations which we think could be
more representative for the baseline change.
We have published a few of papers on this topic in Chinese. Unfortunately, when we sent
our comments to the IPCC AR4, they were mostly rejected.
It is my opinion that we need to re-assess the urbanization effect on surface air
temperature records for at least some regions of the continents. I am glad that you are
going to redo it using the updated dataset. I expect you to obtain the new outcome.
As for the dataset, I believe that Dr. Li Qingxiang could give you a hand. He and his
group conducted a lot work of detection and adjustment of the inhomogeneities in the
past years, and the adjusted and the raw datasets are all stored and managed in his
center. The datasets we used are also from his center.
I’d be happy to discuss some issues with you late, but I would not necessarily be as a
co-author because my contribution would be rather minor.
Best regards,
Guoyu
NCC, Beijing
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Here’s a bit torrent link to the FOIA2011.zip file
You’ll need a bit torrent client
BETTER LINK:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ROCGBR37
Documentation Of A Cozy Interaction Between An AMS BAMS Editor And Phil Jones
[SNIP: you can post when you’ve learned to stay on topic and not repeat yourself. Hijacking threads will not be permitted. -REP]
A physicist says:N ovember 23, 2011 at 2:03 pm
Stephen Wilde says: Nothing yet observed is outside the normal range of natural variability.
Stephen, I’m sure you didn’t mean to say that! Gee, the levels of greenhouse gases that we’ve already injected are hugely outside the normal range of natural variability.
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Sir, you are the one doing the cherry picking here. That data set doesn’t go back far enough in time to show the complete non-dependence of temperature and CO2. Here’s a longer term reference: http://earthguide.ucsd.edu/virtualmuseum/climatechange2/07_1.shtml Note there was no tipping point when CO2 was twice as high as today, and no tipping point when it was three times as high. That information is widely available,but I chose a reference from the University of California, an organization that nobody accuses of being conservative or right-wing.
Happy Turkey Day to all at WUWT.
Thanks Anthony & mods & all contributors.
You’re an island of rationality in a sea of postnormal stupid.
Tenuc says:
November 24, 2011 at 6:01 am Link to article here…
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/285743/Climategate-Leaked-emails-show-scientists-manipulated-data-on-global-warming
Thanks! A quote from this:
The University of East Anglia said: “This appears to be a carefully-timed attempt to reignite controversy over the science behind climate change when that science has been vindicated by three separate independent inquiries.”
How does this agree with the following quote:
Lord Oxburgh wrote,
Dear Dr Mcintyre, Thank you for your message. What you report may or may not be the case. But as I have pointed out to you previously the science was not the subject of our study. Yours sincerely, Ron Oxburgh
Willis Eschenbach says: November 23, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Marc Malone has some interesting comments on “A Physicist” here, from their interaction in the thread here.
It appears WUWT is not the only site he is infesting.
Best advice? DFTT, Don’t Feed The Trolls. “A Physicist” is beyond the reach of any life preserver of assistance or suasion that even the best intentioned might throw him, there’s nothing we can do to stop him from drowning in his monomania.
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Willis, I enjoy all your posts and mostly agree with them. But here I disagree. Of course, arguing with a troll is like wrestling with a pig. You’re going to lose and the pig enjoys it. But I respond to trolls because they set up strawmen to be knocked down. If the strawman is an oft-stated AGW talking point, then I feel it useful to point out the rebuttal. It’s not for the troll’s benefit, it’s for this excellent blog’s other readers that might be pondering the strawman.
WTF????
Email 4659.txt
date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 05:49:11 -0700
from: Spiritual Leader of the Global Community
subject: Planetary biodiversity zone under the protection of the GPA
Investigative Report
by
Germain Dufour
Spiritual Leader of the Global Community
President
Earth Government
Global Law[3] [cid:part2.48F5E6C7.8560D0F5@telus.net]
The Global Community has established a planetary biodiversity zone now under the protection
of the Global Protection Agency (GPA). We have declared a moratorium on all development in
the zone, including all drilling, military testing, and any other destructive uses of the
ecosystems.
The planetary biodiversity zone includes : [4] [cid:part2.48F5E6C7.8560D0F5@telus.net]
* North Pole region [5] [cid:part2.48F5E6C7.8560D0F5@telus.net]
* South Pole region
* all oceans
* all forests
* all lakes
* all rivers and connecting streams
* all wetlands and grasslands
* living organisms and ecosystems in all of the above
The people of all nations are required to respect the moratorium until global law has been
completed to include regulations to be enforced by the GPA.[6]
[cid:part2.48F5E6C7.8560D0F5@telus.net]
……ok…….. ????????
I found this reference to “Mikes Nature trick” in #3451
REPLY: That’s from from Climategate 1 – Anthony
@A physicist says:
November 24, 2011 at 6:07 am
[snip. O/T, trolling and threadjacking. -REP]
Thanks, REP!!!
Nice,
I see that [they’re] retracting their kot on the models at RC.
http://foia2011.org/index.php?id=724
Mann, murder and Vampire analogies. LOL
13:28:03 -0400
from: Edward Cook
subject: Re: Fwd: revised NH comparison manuscript
to: Keith Briffa
Yeah, “moot” is the proper term. I will try to be mute on the issue
for a while now.
I just got out of jury duty. I almost got on a jury for a murder
trial with possible sequestering. My scheduled trip with Nic for his
Uni orientation the end of this month saved the day.
Cheers,
Ed
>take your point re that’s enough – but I have to point out your
>Freudian slip re “moot point” or as you would have it when associted
>with Mike Mann – hopefully “Mute point” !
>love to Michelle
>Keith
>
>
>At 09:32 AM 7/15/REDACTEDyou wrote:
>>Hi Keith,
>>
>>Thanks for the paper and help in toning down Mike’s efforts to put
>>a stake in the Esper heart. I quickly read the paragraph you
>>mention. Undoubtedly part of what is said is true, but it doesn’t
>>explain it all of the differences between the original MBH
>>reconstruction and any of the other NH recons. Now that Mike has
>>moved on to a totally new NH recon, I suppose all of this is a mute
>>point. However, your Blowing Hot and Cold piece clearly showed that
>>the MBH estimates were undoubtedly deficient in low-frequency
>>variability compared to ANY other recon. Enough said. I need to
>>enjoy myself.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Ed
>>
Kind of off topic:
I posted a comment regarding these new developments at SkepticalScience. My comment centered around the fact that climate science is corrupt and there’s no room for dissent. Furthermore, I mentioned that the CRU emails showed how corrupt and messed up the peer review process is. My comment was deleted.
Case settled.
#4894 Looks like vindication of the climate sceptic view, of a lack of BBC impartiality on climate change, from a senior BBC environment correspondent of all people… Oops!
These emails showed me the link between the University of East Anglia and the US Department of Energy as a funding source. I am now writing my first-ever letter to my US Congressman. The point of the letter is: Why is the US DOE using my tax money to fund climate science, and how is that relevant to DOE’s mission? Furthermore, why is my money going to foreign scientists who refuse to divulge their raw data? I urge you to cut DOE’s funding so they can get back to their mandate that is relevant to their mission.
PS, as I sit here composing this letter, I can look out my living room window and see hundreds of windmills that are not turning.
Gail Combs says:
November 24, 2011 at 8:01 am
At http://foia2011.org I searched for worldbank.org and found 32 e-mails going back as far as 1998. I have only looked at three so far. Looks like the good old World Bank may be something of a puppet master.
Tell me again why we can’t use the term “conspiracy”?
I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but wouldn’t it be logical to have the password protected file contain further password protected archives?
This would allow FOIA to release bite-sized chunks over a longer period of time.
Have you noticed that the Richard Black BBC story on Climategate 2.0 has been buried? Yesterday it was the prime article on their “Sci / Enviro” section, but now it’s really really hard to find.
Interestingly the esteemed RB was getting comprehensively flamed for his overtly biased reporting at the comments section at the foot of his own article. Funnily enough beeb has stopped taking comments – assuming you can now find the article on the site in a “Nothing to see here, move along…” kind of fashion.
RB is at it again too:- Now fluffing for Chris Huhne MP, our comedic minister for climate change and driving offence scapegoating. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15874995
Sometimes you have to admire the thinking of Guy Fawkes a few centuries too early !
if you compare the results in my updated tables
http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/henrys-pool-table-on-global-warming
with that of the leaf area index shown in the world chart here:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/03/24/the-earths-biosphere-is-booming-data-suggests-that-co2-is-the-cause-part-2/
you will pick up a correlation
In the red areas, where we find earth is blooming, and more greening, you will note from the results in the tables that the increase in maxima is picked up and trapped by the increasing vegetation. In the blue areas, where substantial de-forestation has been going on, you will find mean temperatures and minima declining or staying unchanged, even though maxima are rising.
Now if we could get all these “scientific researchers” – I call them fraudsters – from universities actually doing some real research they would have found what an amateur climate scientist like me already figured
if you want a greener earth, it will get a little bit warmer.
REPLY: That’s from from Climategate 1 – Anthony
It is in the climategate 2 release. I have not seen any other duplicates. Could this be some sort of clue Anthony?? It is rather a “key” memo. GK
Viewing the benefits of this latest Thanksgiving “drop” i couldn’t help but be reminded of another memorable “drop” from sitcom history.
The late Gordon Jump has a bit more hair and is infinitely more likable, but his pure befuddlement sure brings our boy MM to mind.
For those not old enough to have seen the original a longer version is available here
http://www.kewego.com/video/iLyROoafYtDe.html
Re: Spiritual Leader of the Global Community
I was thinking that this was just spam from a raving lunatic (well, it still is), but from 4966:
date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:11:REDACTEDGMT Standard Time)
from: Janice Darch
subject: World Congress Call for Papers: the Preliminary Program is now
to: REDACTED
Dear All, Anyone interested?
janice
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:43:52 -0500
From: vdufour
Subject: World Congress Call for Papers: the Preliminary
Program is now ready
Sender: vdufour
To: “REDACTED”
I mean, SERIOUSLY?!? They don’t have time to answer an FOI, but can deal with these loons?
Henry P
Interesting observations. I’ll give them some thought.
Thanks.
Alix James says:
November 24, 2011 at 11:12 am
I mean, SERIOUSLY?!? They don’t have time to answer an FOI, but can deal with these loons?
____________________
Alix, I really think you need to read this: (loons yes, but they are here… here now….)
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/24/world-bank-global-warming-journals-and-cru/#comment-807262
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Donna Laframboise, journalist and author of The Delinquent Teenager who was mistaken for the world‘s top climate expert – an in depth investigation into the IPCC.
See Donna here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TYPwPXNazOs
“The Climate Change Act Reconsidered” is of great relevance today in light of scientific scandals and the public’s loss of trust in costly green climate and energy policies.
The Climate Change Act is having huge social and economic consequences, which MPs can no longer ignore. The EU’s and UK’s climate and energy policies are too expensive, too ambitious, too complex – and ineffective. The government’s blind faith in drastically reducing CO2 emissions and liberalising energy markets will profit only a select group of companies and officials at the expense of everyone else. MPs would do well to rethink these policies – before the public rises up in anger.
I look forward to meeting you there.
Pete says:
November 24, 2011 at 3:05 am
It’s always OK to laugh at the trolls, which is what I did. I didn’t feed him. I invite folks to laugh at him, it’s the sovereign cure.
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Perhaps the reason that the whole discipline of Climate Science appears to have gone off the deep end of carbon phobia is that those young students who have been radicalized by Green Earth propagandists are more likely than not to seek environment-related careers.
Thus, they may be represented in these professions out of all proportion to their numbers in the general population and believing themselves to be heroic defenders of the planet; (c.f. Supermandia) they insist that their view is correct, ruthlessly suppressing all dissent and thus they can impose their dogma on the whole profession.