Penn State to lecture on “climate ethics”

Donald A. Brown

I got this late, but this must be the most clueless thing I’ve ever seen, especially coming on the heels of the biggest ethics scandal ever in the history of Penn State. Maybe clueless doesn’t even describe it. I’m at a loss for representative adjectives.

An Ethical Critique of the Climate Science Disinformation Campaign

Dear Attendees of COP-17:

On Tuesday, November 29th, in a seminar organized by Penn State University and the University of Washington on the ethical dimensions of climate change join us to look at two issues.

One, an ethical analysis of the climate change disinformation campaign. We will examine whether this is a new kind of crime against humanity?

Second, we will look at the piratical significance for negotiations in Durban if climate change is understood to create human rights violations.
Tuesday, November 29th, 1PM – 5PM,The University of Kwazulu-Natal,Howard College Campus Howard College Lecture Theater

Donald A. Brown
Associate Professor Environmental Ethics, Science, and Law,
Director,Collaborative Program on Ethical Dimensions of Climate Change, Rock Ethics Institute,
Penn State University
126 Willard,
University Park, Pa, 16802
717-802-xxxx (cell); 814-865-xxxx (office)
dab57@psu.xxxx

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Reader may recall Brown is pretty much the whole department of the Penn State Rock Ethics Institute that previously tried to ethically link tornadoes to climate change.

FAIL

Source: NCDC - 2011 not added yet becuase it isn't a data point yet

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212 thoughts on “Penn State to lecture on “climate ethics”

  1. Its the Gulag for you Anthony.

    High crimes against humanity. I guess Climategate 2.0 has e’m pretty riled.

  2. One can only assume this is a reflection on the whole of Penn State. I was taking James Delingpole’s book with a huge grain of salt. Maybe I was mistaken ….

  3. one: “the climate change disinformation campaign” – discuss this: who is doing the disinformation and why.
    two: “the piratical significance for negotiations in Durban if climate change is understood to create human rights violations” – discuss how relieving the general public of its personal funds over a hoax is not a violation of human rights.

    ps. Shouldn’t it read “practical” not “piratical”?

  4. We must remember that Penn State is now the home of Michael Mann, arguably the most incompetent “scientist” on the planet and whose phony hockey stick helped launch the Great Global Warming Hoax. It has been said that Mann’s presence there has singlehandedly transformed Penn State into a 3rd rate science institution.

  5. @More Soylent Green

    Aka: One of the coolest years in the past decade (though November is looking to be another big drop in temperature).

    I don’t think it supports their position like they think it does.

  6. ‘piratical’ – really? That’s hilarious if so, as hilarious as the rest is sick and twisted. I hadn’t realised I and all of us here had the same standing as an SS trooper, because I disagree with mad people like this.

  7. How about this for ethics: The misery caused by handcuffing people over an unproven idea and the forcing of an agenda down the throat of a supposedly free people. If climate is proven to be cyclical, then who has been unethical here? The people perpetrating this situation, without allowing the simple test of natural cyclical reversal with an objective measuring device to actually prove what is right or wrong.
    So let me ask Brown this. If co2 increases 1.5 ppm a year, and man contributes 3% or 1 part per 20 million, and the US is 5% of the globes population with a contribution of 1 part per 100 million, HOW IS IT ETHICAL TO FORCE CHANGE ON PEOPLE TO SOMETHING THAT IS OBVIOUSLY SO SMALL, IT IS ALMOST INCONCEIVABLE IT CAN DO WHAT YOU SAY IT IS. In addition, the percentage increase is decreasing each year.. as co2 levels rise, the increase is less relative to the total of co2. Given you are now claiming natural variability as the culprit behind the leveling off of global temps, only an unreasonable person would assume that the earth can not adapt to such minute increases, even if man was contributing it all, which obviously man is not.

    When this is over and you are most certainly proven wrong, I hope you have the ethics to quit running to hidden heat and natural variability and face the facts, that you are not fit to judge the motives and ethics of people interested in the right answer, not just your answer

    I speak for many PSU meteo grads from my era on this matter, btw, for I know many
    Joe Bastardi PSU 1978

  8. Jer0me says:
    November 29, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    Penn State to lecture on “climate ethics”

    Is that an oxymoron I hear….?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    No you read it wrong it is the State Pen inmates lecture on ethics.

  9. I hope someone attends with copies of emails containing unethical behavior. They will make great hand-outs and lead to interesting questions… I’m sure. GK

  10. Penn State Answer Service

    Hello this is Pennsylvania State University. Please listen carefully because our menu has changed.

    If you would like to press charges against someone in the athletic department, press “one”.
    If you would like to serve a subpoena to someone in the climate office, press “two”.
    If the environmental ethics committee has agreed to speak in your elementary or secondary school, press “three”.
    If you are somewhat ethically challenged yourself, and have signed up for our ethical team-building seminar series, press “four”.
    For prospective students worth a cool 50 k / year, please stay on the line, and a real person will take your call.

  11. “we will look at the piratical significance for negotiations in Durban” Is that a verbatim quote? Piratical? If so, it’s one of the funnier typos I’ve seen lately.

  12. This has got to be a spoof.

    Climate ethics by these guys? This is like having the host of the current Durban jamboree, South Africa’s President Zuma, lecture on the wisdom of monogamy.

  13. I can save you the time, here is what they will conclude: Its the same powers that tried to say that smoking was safe it’s nothing new. And all deniers are paid by big oil.

  14. This event illustrates the totalitarian impulse of the political left: dissent is criminalized. There is growing evidence of the wish-fantasy of dictatorship on the part of some leftists — e.g., the frequent laments that “our system no longer works.” Some people may joke about it, but it’s very dangerous, IMO.

  15. Rock Ethics – is that the ethics of a typical rock band? Or, the ethics of a hunk of quartz? In both cases it seems to pretty well mirror climate science.

  16. Brown is not interested in science or data. Every time I’ve written a post providing data that countered his claims he censored it. You can tell from his title ‘Associate Professor Environmental Ethics, Science, and Law, Director,Collaborative Program on Ethical Dimensions of Climate Change, Rock Ethics Institute’ the guy MUST be compensating for some shortcoming. :-)

  17. My God, these people truly have no shame. Is this behavior some sort of cognitive dissonance or disconnect from reality? Didn’t anyone at Penn State think it might be a good idea to cancel this particular lecture. Brown? Simply amazing.

  18. I speak for many PSU meteo grads from my era on this matter, btw, for I know many
    Joe Bastardi PSU 1978

    And this is how this must be taken up. The alumni of the schools must let these institutions know that they are tarnishing the image and reducing the stature of the institution. They are also doing a great disservice to science in general, not just climate “science” (of which I am not certain there really is such a thing).

    Scientists in many fields are apparently reluctant to speak their mind in a public fashion (and understandably so after seeing the behind the scenes intrigues going on) for fear of losing their jobs.

    I’ll take one small stand and say that until these people clean up their acts, I’m not going to recommend hiring anyone coming from UEA, PSU, CMU, Columbia, or Stanford as those schools have demonstrated that they can not be trusted. Until they begin to approach things with an open mind rather than from an approach of validating their belief, their work is useless.

  19. 121200992

    rom: Phil Jones
    To: Tom Wigley , Steven Sherwood
    Subject: Re: David Douglass
    Date: Wed May 28 17:25:27 2008
    Cc: REDACTED, “Thorne, Peter” , Leopold Haimberger , Karl Taylor , Tom Wigley , John Lanzante , REDACTED, Melissa Free , peter gleckler , Thomas R Karl , Steve Klein , carl mears , Doug Nychka , Gavin Schmidt , Frank Wentz

    Ben et al,
    Definitely the right response – so agree with Tom.
    I have been known to disagree with him, and he’s not
    always right.
    Submit asap !!
    Cheers
    Phil
    At 23:48 27/05/2008, Tom Wigley wrote:

    Steve et al.,
    Sorry, but I agree with quick submission, but not with giving
    anything to Douglass until the paper appears in print.
    I guess the reason John likes 1.2 is because it agrees best
    with UAH MSU — which, as we all know, has been inspired by
    and blessed by God, and so MUST be right.
    Tom.

    ……..in fact, before a final editorial decision on the paper has
    been reached. Dr. Douglass has written to me and to Peter, requesting a copy of our IJoC
    paper. In his letter to Peter, Dr. Douglass has claimed that failure to provide him
    (Douglass) with a copy of our IJoC paper would contravene the ethics policies of the
    journal “Nature”.
    As you can see from my reply to Dr. Douglass, I feel strongly that we should not give
    him an advance copy of our paper.

  20. RE: “It is a bit like getting Al Capone to lecture on, ‘Business Ethics”, isn’t it?”

    Al Capone was a proponent of ethical standards. He enforced them vigorously – sometimes with a baseball bat. (Why do “Chicago” and “ethics” seem so odd together in the same sentence. Like “Obama has brought the high ethical standards of Chicago to the Federal government.” Just asking.)

    Capone once referred to a Chicago judge. He said “He’s an honest judge. Once he’s bought he stays bought.”

  21. Unless this is a 3-day event of self-flagellation followed by banishment from civilization it must be a joke.

  22. When you have built your “castle in the air” on lies, the only way to keep it in the air is to keep lying.

    We can only hope that the “circle of wagons” of the academic/media mafias breaks, or at least can’t keep the volume of lies high enough.

    It is pretty clear by now that these folk are, by and large, willing to go their entire careers and retire maintaining lies *that they know are lies*.

  23. Nothing ironic or paradoxical at all. PSU exemplifies the ethics of climatology, just as Goldman Sachs exemplifies the ethics of bankers. If you want to know how to follow the ethical standards of climatologists, Penn State is the best adviser in the world.

  24. “Piratical”? Does this include MM in the role of “Captain Hook” who instead of endlessly searching for the crocodile who ate his hand, endlessly defends the crooked crock that built his career?

  25. Re: 10th hottest year on record. Lot’s of media reportage on this latest assertion. It’s be useful if there was a site that aggregated the official world temperatures from 4 main data collection points.

  26. In light of the recent excapades at Penn State, it is refreshing to see some people making an attempt to occupy the ethics high ground. Mr Brown is the first to take on Mt Mariana Trench.

  27. Coffee spew alert:

    National Climate Ethics Statement
    To Be Released November 30 On Capital Hill

    Senator Barbara Boxer and Rep. Henry Waxman Among List of Speakers

    This is our FINAL CALL for signatures. Please send out the message below.

    The National Climate Ethics Campaign is pleased to announce that the “Statement of Our Nation’s Moral Obligation to Address Climate Change” will be released Wednesday, November 30 from 1:00-2:30 p.m. in Room 406 of the Dirksen Senate Office Building (The Environment and Public Works Hearing Room).

    There are now over 1000 signers now on the climate ethics statement. Please send the message pasted below to organizations, listservs, and people that might endorse it.

    If you are in Washington D.C. or vicinity please attend the event. In addition, please urge others know you to attend! Let’s fill the room to tell Congress, the President, and the public that it is our nation’s moral and ethical responsibility to meaningfully address climate change.

    Speakers representing a wide range of constituencies will offer their views about our nation’s ethical and moral obligations to address climate change:

    Congressman Henry Waxman (D-California)
    Virginia State Senator Mary Margaret Whipple (state perspective)
    Gary Hirshberg, CEO of Stonyfield Farm (business)
    Tim Warman of The National Wildlife Federation (environment)
    Jim Ball, VP of The Evangelical Environmental Network (faith)
    Joe Uehlein, Labor Network for Sustainability (labor)
    Ann Goodman, WNSF (women)
    Luisa Saffiotti, Psychologists for Social Responsibility (mental health)
    Bobby Pestronk, NACCHO (health)
    Lili Molina, Energy Action Coalition (youth)
    A speaker representing the NAACP will also speak.

    http://climateethicscampaign.org/

  28. Exaggeration, intimidation, self-appointed gradeur, cognitve dissonance, projection

    It is pretty close but to fully qualify as a climate scientist, he also needs to be hiding data and we don’t have any evidence of that.

    So he is just a wanna-be climate scientist. In other words, he is in a “School of Environmental … whatever”, strictly wanna-bes.

  29. Not too far OT – (from theDailyReview.com)

    Increased bromide caused by lab error not drilling, researchers say

    A study by Penn State researchers is being revised after test results apparently linking increased bromide in some water wells to Marcellus Shale gas drilling were traced instead to a lab error.

    An error notice was published on Nov. 22 on the website of the Center for Rural Pennsylvania, which funded the study and released it in late October.

    According to the notice, an accredited laboratory contracted by the researchers incorrectly reported the bromide concentration data that was used in the original report. Updated data showed that increased bromide levels were recorded in one of 42 water wells, not seven wells as originally reported.

    The one affected water well also showed increased levels of chloride, hardness and other parameters days after a Marcellus well about a quarter-mile away was hydraulically fractured, but “nearly all” of the increased parameters, including bromide, “had nearly returned to pre-drilling concentrations” after 10 months, according to the notice and the original report.

    The study of 233 water wells in 20 Pennsylvania counties did not find any statistically significant increases in methane after drilling or evidence of contamination from the most prominent pollutants found in the wastewater that flows out of natural gas wells after hydraulic fracturing.

    In the initial report, the study’s authors used the now-discredited bromide finding to advocate tripling the distance around a natural gas well where drillers in Pennsylvania are currently presumed responsible for contamination from 1,000 to 3,000 feet.

    Efforts to reach project leader Bryan Swistock, a Penn State water resources extension specialist, were unsuccessful Monday.

    According to the error notice, all of the study’s research findings are being reviewed and a revised report will be issued “in the coming weeks.”

    The authors were preparing the report for submission to a peer-reviewed journal when it was released by the Center for Rural Pennsylvania in October.

  30. Dear Mr Brown.

    In logic classes, I learned that : When one argues from a philosophical perspective – there is no moral or ethical argument that can be associated to a philosophical stance.

    It is a fallacy in logic to attempt to convey that there is.

    It would take these [ at the minimum ] to change from a philosophical debate to an ethical debate.

    1 Causation evidence.
    2 Evidence that something can be done to change the outcome..
    3 Evidence that not taking the step [ s ] – is unethical.

    Surly, as a Lawyer….you understand “evidence”?

  31. Piratical? Nope, not a typo and not a joke. Nothing wrong with using the term when you are talking about negotiations at Durban.
    Nothing at all!
    @Joe Bastardi- Excellent sir! Good to hear from you!

  32. To attend the ethical forum, send details of your bank account to my Nigerian colleague who will complete your registration . . .

  33. How about the ethics of letting people starve to death while the US turns grain into alcohol to burn in cars, in order to reduce CO2 emissions? How many millions of lives could have been saved if the hundreds of billions wasted on this scam were put into medical research, or clean drinking water, or vacinations, or…

  34. @Anthony:
    Ethics is mob rule. Morality appeals to a divine will. Anyone trying to confuse the two is selling something. If you understand that ‘ethics’ is another word for rhetoric and mob rule, then this lecture makes perfect sense. They are rallying the troops.

  35. I haven’t been able to keep up with all the comments regarding this latest release of emails, but from what I’ve seen no one has mentioned this piece which discusses Andy Revkin’s role, as revealed in the emails, when he was still supposedly a “reporter at the NYT.

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/11/28/leaked-emails-nyt-climategate/

    My apologies if this has been raised before and I’ve just managed to miss it, but it does seem to be more evidence of the media collusion that has always been CAGW’s greatest strength.

  36. “Piratical”
    pertaining to Pirates, acting as if a Pirate,
    “Pirate”
    one who roams around a large area attacking normal people going about their normal work.
    History shows us that Pirates dont last too long before being overtaken by authority or rebellion
    yours sincerely
    Edward Teach (ex Royal Navy) (no, not really)

  37. polistra says:
    November 29, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Nothing ironic or paradoxical at all. PSU exemplifies the ethics of climatology, just as Goldman Sachs exemplifies the ethics of bankers.

    ..you mean, they are “a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money.” (?)

    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405#ixzz1f8hLrTii

  38. When these guys start costing universities money, their azzes will be out the door tenure or no tenure.

  39. To quote Robin Williams:

    Having George W. Bush giving a lecture on business ethics is like having a leper give you a facial, it just doesn’t work!

    I think this equally applies here…

  40. @ Dickens goes metro,

    Regarding:

    National Climate Ethics Statement
    To Be Released November 30 On Capital Hill

    Waxman should be VERY mindful of his past efforts… especially where e-mails are concerned.

    http://www.yuricareport.com/Energy/BushAdminContactsWithEnron_Waxman.pdf

    We all know that the democrats and Al Gore worked very closely with Ken Lay in establishing his carbon trading businesses. The enron e-mails have since vanished from the web, but much was redacted or omitted during Waxman’s investigation which most assuredly would have implicated certain democrats.

    Ethics? This need to be looked into.

  41. Lovely cartoon I was sent:

    young son to father, “Dad, I’m considering a career in organised crime.”
    Father, looking calmly past his newspaper, “Government or private sector?”

  42. “ethical analysis of the climate change disinformation campaign. ”
    This is right up there with people’s republic and socialist republic,
    as supreme self-parody. ‘Disinformation’ describes them to a tee.

    “We will examine whether this is a new kind of crime against humanity”
    Big Government has for centuries been THE crime against humanity,
    while capitalism and free markets made all the progress and growth,
    whereas government, when done properly, merely enables it.
    And yes, the Greens’ ruinous policies ARE a new kind of crime against humanity.

    “Second, we will look at the piratical significance for negotiations in Durban if climate change is understood to create human rights violations. ”
    Gee, wouldn’t King Canute love the sheer megalomania of CAGW,
    and like any Viking king (Viking = Scandanavian pirate)
    he knew all about total arrogance:
    Vikings were the world’s #1 slavers for three centuries .

    As for ‘human rights’ violations’, that accurately describes
    the results of their policies of fuel poverty and biofueled starvation.

    What about the animal rights of all those bird-slicer victims?

  43. Dave Wendt says:
    November 29, 2011 at 3:14 pm
    “I haven’t been able to keep up with all the comments regarding this latest release of emails, but from what I’ve seen no one has mentioned this piece which discusses Andy Revkin’s role, as revealed in the emails, when he was still supposedly a “reporter at the NYT.”

    Revkin is all over Climate Depot.

  44. Donald A. Brown is a hoot. He has a blog, and it seems that he’ll unquestioningly believe any alarmist claim about the climate no matter how incredible it may be..

  45. Dickens Goes Metro says: November 29, 2011 at 2:58 pm…………… Thanks for the heads up!

    As an fyi the ethical campaign is laid out here- http://climateethicscampaign.org/storage/CEC%20Handbook%20final%2011-9.pdf
    “Campaigning for a Moral and Ethical Response to Climate Change- An Introductory Handbook for Community and Organization Activists”
    “Table of Contents

    Why Start a Climate Ethics Campaign?…………………………………………………………….. 1

    The Ethical & Moral Implications of Climate Change…………………………………………… 2

    How Human Activities Affect the Climate ………………………………………………………….. 5

    The Consequences of Climate Change…………………………………………………………….. 6

    Connecting Climate Change to Issues in Your Community or Organization …………… 7

    A ‘10 Step’ Process for Launching a Climate Ethics Campaign ……………………………. 9

    Conclusion ………………………………………………………………………………………………….. 14

    Selected Resources……………………………………………………………………………………… 15

    ” The debate about climate change has produced deep divisions in America that prevent

    many people from grasping the reality and urgency of the issue. This is because, at the

    most fundamental level, climate change is not a scientific, political, or even an energy

    problem. It is a moral and ethical crisis.”

    “Ethical and cultural divides like this cannot be overcome with more scientific facts or

    technical arguments. From women’s suffrage to the civil rights movement, history has

    shown that harmful beliefs, practices, and policies can only be overcome when they are

    declared to be morally wrong and decidedly unjust. Only then are people motivated to right

    that wrong by working for a higher moral purpose.”

  46. Well, I suspect the est-steamed professor Donald A. Brown,
    is absolutely correct:
    1) how many million kids, women, etc have died in third world countries due to the criminal policies of 1st world countries to withhold food and convert it into fuel for their splendiferous automobiles?
    2) how much public monies have various universities, bureaucrats, public officials, special focus corporations received as a result of “less than honorable” actions targeted at continuing the flow of public monies at the expense of education for kids and robust public infrastructure?
    3) How many kids in 1st world countries are denied adequate education to proceed in the world by the action of a cadre to withhold monies for their special purposes?
    4) Which evangelical folk have preached a “belief” and indoctrinated kids into the “correct thinking” and also insured that they, and only they, retain ever more enriching jobs in schools?
    5) How many people will die as energy supply becomes less robust and more expensive due to the policies forced by beneficiaries of public monies?

    So the Prof. does indeed have a point… and likely a concern for himself and his job .
    but then, now that N. Korea and Iran know that you *must* have nukes given what happened to Gaddafi (and likely in Syra), there will be “fish to fry” before the end of the decade (just like predicted in “Fourth Turning”). As Tom Lehr say: “…we’ll split a candy bar and watch WW III…”.

    LOL in Oregon

  47. Fred Allen says:
    November 29, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    In light of the recent excapades at Penn State, it is refreshing to see some people making an attempt to occupy the ethics high ground. Mr Brown is the first to take on Mt Mariana Trench.

    No fair, you didn’t put the /coffeespew tag on that!

    You’re right, they’re dealing with negative topography enhanced by subduction. Once Brown attains it, he’ll be digested. Not pretty.

  48. Will climate science ever change course and said “oops, we made a few physics mistakes and there will be little global warming after all”.

    No, they cannot make this admission because the consequences for them personally would be very severe.

    Only sceptics or new people in the field can fix this science.

  49. take this, Zwick:

    (2 pages) 29 Nov: Forbes: Larry Bell: Climategate II: More Smoking Guns From The Global Warming Establishment
    As if the first round of e-mails purloined from the U.K.’s East Anglia University Climate Research Unit (CRU) network weren’t damning enough, the new batch of about 5,000 more obtained through an anonymous source identified as “FOIA” are truly stunning. Many clearly confirm that top IPCC scientists consciously misrepresented and actively withheld important information…then attempted to prevent discovery…

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/11/29/climategate-ii-more-smoking-guns-from-the-global-warming-establishment/

  50. Essex (pronounced ‘ethics’) is a county in the east of England. There are a lot of jokes on the internet about Essex and none of them are very polite. I live in Essex and I would prefer any joke, however rude, about my home county over that of this extraordinary lecture being delivered in Durban.

  51. One, an ethical analysis of the climate change disinformation campaign. We will examine whether this is a new kind of crime against humanity?
    ===

    This is the ugly face of ecofascism…

  52. These people have a god given right to be wrong, to say that wrongness and to hold any seminars they choose. We must remember and so should they that science and ethics are separated by a philosophical and logical gulf. See my philosophy of science blog for numerous essays on this topic. That gulf is not bridgeable, in that, what flows from one discipline is not directly applicable to the other. The gulf can be transcended but the bridge is logic. Ethics, also known as moral philosophy, addresses questions about morality—that is, concepts such as good and evil, right and wrong, virtue and vice, justice and crime, etc.

    Science can inform, that is provide information, that is the limit of what science can do. Notice, should or aught are not part of this. Science through its attendant philosophy and logic (deductive) is only capable of addressing priori questions. It is not capable of addressing a priori questions or using inductive logic as ethical philosophy or the pseudosciences do.

    Therefore the question here must be: is disinformation or misinformation or incorrect information, unethical behavior, untruthfulness, conclusive or practitioners of the “end justifying the means”, unethical and if so under what conditions. To dispute someone’s interpretation of empirical data and information is call disagreement. To call out another on some point of law, logic, fact or what ever has no ethical implications except and unless it can be demonstrated that the failure to do so will result in harm to others. Unreliable numeric models are hardly demonstration of anything. Let the facts fall where they may.

    This is simply some kind of publicity stunt and we should not spend any more time on it.

  53. BTW in Canada, the Environmental Law Center of University of British Columbia funded by Tides is not far from this kind of crazyness with their Global Warming Solutions Act from January 30, 2007.

  54. I’m wondering who’s going to attend?
    Certainly no one at PS believes they might have some sort of ethics problem so they must think they need to teach the “d”‘s the ethics of climate science. Huh?
    PS must have missed climategate part II email release.

  55. From 2563 Barrie Pittock of CSIRO
    “To my mind that is not as good as getting the offending editors removed and
    proper processes in place. Pressure or ultimatums to the publishers might
    work, or concerted lobbying by other co-editors or leading authors.”

    Nice people at the CSIRO

  56. Prof. Brown is going around the country with this show. He was recently at the University of Kansas speaking on the same topic. Unfortunately I could not attend. But maybe I really did not want to, either. Wonder where else the show is going?

  57. “One, an ethical analysis of the climate change disinformation campaign. We will examine whether this is a new kind of crime against humanity?”
    Yeah, like a ban on DDT or starving people by selling corn for fuel.
    Then we’ll examine young boys in the shower, as an ethical issue of when to report your seniors to the proper authority and how to avoid FOIA requests.

  58. People like me are either in the pay of by big oil or we must be insane.
    Just as in the old Soviet Union. Dissidents who didn’t believe they lived in workers paradise must have been in the pay of the west or they must have been insane.
    The mad house next or more likely, the world has gone insane.

  59. Second, we will look at the piratical significance for negotiations in Durban if climate change is understood to create human rights violations.

    That’s a Freudian slip if I ever saw one.

  60. “One, an ethical analysis of the climate change disinformation campaign. We will examine whether this is a new kind of crime against humanity?

    Now where have I heard that before?? Oh yeah!


    NASA Scientist: Put CEOs On Trial for Global-Warming Lies

    Published June 24, 2008

    FOXNews

    The heads of major fossil-fuel companies who spread disinformation about global warming should be “tried for high crimes against humanity and nature,” according to a leading climate scientist.

    Dr. James Hansen, director of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, sounded the alarm about global warming in testimony before a Senate subcommittee exactly 20 years ago.

  61. Sabastian says:
    November 29, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    RE: “It is a bit like getting Al Capone to lecture on, ‘Business Ethics”, isn’t it?”

    Al Capone was a proponent of ethical standards. He enforced them vigorously – sometimes with a baseball bat. (Why do “Chicago” and “ethics” seem so odd together in the same sentence. Like “Obama has brought the high ethical standards of Chicago to the Federal government.” Just asking.)

    Capone once referred to a Chicago judge. He said “He’s an honest judge. Once he’s bought he stays bought.”
    ____________________________________
    I rather deal with the mob. At least they are not trying to crash our civilization, starve babies and burn children alive like Al Gore.

  62. “piratical” ?

    The Dread Pirate Roberts still out there causing global climate change with that deadly 2stroke outboard engine on his dreaded pirate ship, eh ?

    regarDS

  63. “Penn State to lecture on “climate ethics”

    “Penn State to lecture on “shower ethics”

    Just different departments on the same campus, both equally disconnected from reality.

  64. For Penn State to lecture on ethics would be as convincing as a pedophile to lecture on healthy child development.

  65. Perhaps something Heartland could look into for their next get together:

    An Ethical Critique of the Climate Science Disinformation Campaign
    A Case Study: UEA and Penn State

  66. One, an ethical analysis of the climate change disinformation campaign. We will examine whether this is a new kind of crime against humanity?
    Yes, y’all are involved in a massive disinformation campaign. Yes, it’s a massive crime against humanity. Economies dragged down, people out of work, higher energy and tax bills, Third World people prevented from having modern energy, the same starving because we burn food in our gas tanks. I’d say quite the crime!

  67. Carl Chapman says:
    November 29, 2011 at 3:07 pm

    How about the ethics of letting people starve to death while the US turns grain into alcohol to burn in cars, in order to reduce CO2 emissions? How many millions of lives could have been saved if the hundreds of billions wasted on this scam were put into medical research, or clean drinking water, or vacinations, or…
    ___________________________________
    And to add insult to injury Goldman Sachs was playing games and driving the prices even higher!!!
    How Goldman Sachs Created the Food Crisis -

    http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/04/27/how_goldman_sachs_created_the_food_crisis?page=0,1

    And now we have the Farmland Grab:
    George Soros, Al Gore, World Bank, Rothschild, UNIVERSITY ENDOWMENT FUNDS are all buying farmland in Africa, South America and the USA.

    http://farmlandgrab.org/

  68. Actually the title of the lecture should be: Reinstating Witch Trials for Dissenters

    It would be a heck of a lot more accurate.

  69. don’t miss this, it is not the kind of ‘record’ that CAGW alarmists want to discuss:

    A New US Hurricane Record

    http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/

    On December 4, 2011 it will have been 2,232 days since Hurricane Wilma made landfall along the Gulf coast as a category 3 storm back in 2005. That number of days will break the existing record of days between major US hurricane landfalls, which previously was between 8 Sept 1900 (the great Galveston Hurricane) and 19 Oct 1906. Since there won’t be any intense hurricanes before next summer, the record will be shattered, with the days between intense hurricane landfalls likely to exceed 2,500 days.

    If you are in the insurance or reinsurance business and want to stir up a little constructive mischief, you should ask your favorite catastrophe modeling firm or ratings agency to show you the mathematics behind their estimate of the probability of zero intense hurricane landfalls from 2006 to present (both made at the time and what they’d say today). (Hint: Zero. Zip. Nada.).

    This remarkable streak has to end sometime, and likely won’t be repeated anytime soon.
    Posted by Roger Pielke, Jr. at 11/28/2011 07:52:00 AM

  70. One, an ethical analysis of the climate change disinformation campaign. We will examine whether this is a new kind of crime against humanity?

    Second, we will look at the piratical significance for negotiations in Durban if climate change is understood to create human rights violations.

    The titles are brilliant imho. Fit for the true situation.

    Yes, the disinformers are committing a new crime against humanity.

    And yes, climate science has been pirated thereby creating human rights violations.

  71. At 1:49 PM on 29 November, Bloke down the pub had asked:

    Would any of them recognise climate ethics if it bit them on the nose?

    Of course they would. They can’t maintain criminal mens rea without understanding the difference between moral behavior and violation of the law.

    I know that the statute of limitations in the U.K. for criminal violation of the FOI statute is only eighteen months (?!!), but what’s the statute of limitations over there for criminal conspiracy to violate the FOI statute, to subborn malfeasance on the part of a government officer charged with enforcement of the FOI law, and to destroy information sought under lawful FOI requests?

    Criminal conspiracy is a whole separate offense, isn’t it?

  72. On those tornado graphs at the end of the article, look at the years.
    In the deaths/million, 2011 data is shown as a big spike on a noisy trend. It will be over 550 this year. But the number of tornadoes this year (hence the spike in deaths) was higher due to several large outbreaks. That graph stops at 2010 data.
    It will be interesting to see the 2011 F3-F5 data plotted.

  73. an ethical analysis of the climate change disinformation campaign

    We don’t need an ethical analysis of Michael Mann. Fire him.

  74. Brown’s background: “During the Clinton Administration, he was program manager for United Nations organizations at the United States Environmental Protection Agency (USEPA) Office of International Environmental Policy”

    Having listened to his public presentation, the phrase propaganda-driven zealot seemed to apply. His public presentation was steeped in emotionalism rather than science. He led off with an anti-scientific method basis for his views, that being the false consensus, which has been debunked and which is irrelevant to science. He offered comments that were based upon disinformation via careful phrasing that was focused on misleading his audience.

    His powerpoint presentation included emotion-driven appeals, such as pictures of polar bears. His claims about weather extremes and CAGW have been addressed in WUWT many times as unsupportable by science. But, if propaganda and misleading people are the goals, the facts don’t appear to matter.

    He refused to address comments from the audience regarding published science research that rebutted the basis for his claims. His goal appeared to be to indoctrinate those who are swayed by emotionalism and to promote his one-sided political agenda. Unfortunately, his kind of misleading and misrepresenting comments looked to be part of a canned presentation that was likely shown to by others across the country, as part of a larger propaganda campaign effort.

  75. One, an ethical analysis of the climate change disinformation campaign. We will examine whether this is a new kind of crime against humanity?

    One, clearly these people have been utterly converted to “post normal science” which is utter anathema to actual science, along with Orwellian Doublespeak, and Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.

    Second, we will look at the piratical significance for negotiations in Durban if climate change is understood to create human rights violations.

    Who knew the great and powerful Flying Spagetti Monster was right, and Pirates really DO cause global warming!! http://www.venganza.org/2008/04/pirates-temperature/ It’s confirmed by climate scientists as seen in the press release title, and therefore it must be true!!! Pastafarianism, here I come!!

  76. On point number two, perhaps I should send them a link to a critically important graphic to describe this piratical relationship:

    (temp vs. pirates)

  77. Gail Combs: “And now we have the Farmland Grab:
    George Soros, Al Gore, World Bank, Rothschild, UNIVERSITY ENDOWMENT FUNDS are all buying farmland in Africa, South America and the USA.”

    http://farmlandgrab.org/

    Uh, exactly where in the link can I find Al Gore?

  78. Thought a definition of thIs, to date, underused but highly apt “climate science” adjective might be in order:

    pi·rate (prt)
    n.
    1.
    a. One who robs at sea or plunders the land from the sea without commission from a sovereign nation.
    b. A ship used for this purpose.
    2. One who preys on others; a plunderer.
    3. One who makes use of or reproduces the work of another without authorization.
    4. One that operates an unlicensed, illegal television or radio station.
    v. pi·rat·ed, pi·rat·ing, pi·rates
    v.tr.
    1. To attack and rob (a ship at sea).
    2. To take (something) by piracy.
    3. To make use of or reproduce (another’s work) without authorization.
    v.intr.
    To act as a pirate; practice piracy.
    [Middle English, from Old French, from Latin prta, from Greek peirts, from peirn, to attempt, from peira, trial; see per-3 in Indo-European roots.]
    pi·ratic (p-rtk), pi·rati·cal (–kl) adj.
    pi·rati·cal·ly adv.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/piratical

  79. Note: I found this using the keyword ‘god’.

    110902131

    From: Phil Jones
    To: REDACTED
    Subject: Fwd: CCNet: PRESSURE GROWING ON CONTROVERSIAL RESEARCHER TO DISCLOSE SECRET DATA
    Date: Mon Feb 21 16:28:32 2005
    Cc: “raymond s. bradley” , “Malcolm Hughes”

    Mike, Ray and Malcolm,
    The skeptics seem to be building up a head of steam here ! Maybe we can use
    this to our advantage to get the series updated !
    Odd idea to update the proxies with satellite estimates of the lower troposphere
    rather than surface data !. Odder still that they don’t realise that Moberg et al used the
    Jones and Moberg updated series !
    Francis Zwiers is till onside. He said that PC1s produce hockey sticks. He stressed
    that the late 20th century is the warmest of the millennium, but Regaldo didn’t bother
    with that. Also ignored Francis’ comment about all the other series looking similar
    to MBH.
    The IPCC comes in for a lot of stick.
    Leave it to you to delete as appropriate !
    Cheers
    Phil
    PS I’m getting hassled by a couple of people to release the CRU station temperature data.
    Don’t any of you three tell anybody that the UK has a Freedom of Information Act !

  80. The scientist Jonathan Jones posted the following on Curry’s site at 4:30 EST:

    Personally I have found Climategate 2011 far more serious, and far more depressing, than the 2009 version. Partly that’s just personal: it’s depressing to turn up evidence of Phil Jones conspiring to discredit me. (Not that these plans got anywhere, but that’s beside the point). But beyond that it has finally settled what was for me the central question: was “the team” wicked, or merely incompetent?

    Up until now I could still believe that they didn’t know what they were doing, and that they behaved badly because they didn’t know any better. Never ascribe to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. But with the latest releases this position is no longer tenable. They knew exactly what they were doing; indeed they discussed it in great detail in private. Some of them even knew that what they were doing was wrong. And yet they went ahead and did it.

    A very sad day.

    Should make a good topic for Penn State’s ethics “lecture.”

  81. Take this as a comment.
    Have you ever considered that believers in catastrophic climate change have no inert intelligence?
    Have you ever wondered why you know how to spell a complex term just by your cognitive ability?
    Do you imagine it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eyelet of a needle than for humankind to understand all of the natural universe?

  82. This is no joke. It’s terrifying. Stop and think.

    They are trying to build an argument to have ‘skeptics’ put away for crimes against humanity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_against_humanity

    The definition of what is a “crime against humanity” for ICC proceedings has significantly broadened from its original legal definition or that used by the UN,[18] and Article 7 of the treaty stated that:

    (k) Other inhumane acts of a similar character intentionally causing great suffering, or serious injury to body or to mental or physical health.

    If they can prove ‘skeptics’ are causing suffering to the UN. Then the UN can call for the ‘skeptics’ arrest. Yes… the UN… terrifying.

    Think about this for a second. How long would it take to round up the 25? most vocal skeptics?

    Stalin had no problem rounding up his dissidents

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2042

    This is no joke. It’s terrifying. Stop and think.

  83. NEWS FLASH

    Climate Indicted for Crimes Against Humanity
    Arrest Warrants Issued

    By a unanimous vote of the COP17 Ethics Committee (comprised of Zimbabwe, Iran, Syria, Lybia, Sudan and North Korea) and indictment has been issued against “The Climate” for human rights violations.

    Committee chairman Robert Mugabe made the stunning announcement.

    “We’ve reviewed the evidence,” said Mugabe, “And there is no doubt that the miserable lives led by millions of people in countries such as ours are totaly due to changes brought about by “The Climate”. Further, we find that “The Climate” is a serial killer, having destroyed entire civilizations over centuries of time with tactics such as ice ages. “The Climate” is a terrible foe,” said Mugabe, “but we are willing to do our part and arm ourselves to the teeth in order to bring an end to the reign of terror “The Climate” is causing. We’re calling on all countries to send us as many weapons as possible, guns, tanks, fighter jets… we are on the front lines of this battle with “The Climate” and we stand in defence of the entire world.”

    Meanwhile, international arrest warrants have been issued. In a major press conference, Interpol’s chief of communications announced that composite drawings of the criminal would soon be released.

    “We don’t know exactly what “The Climate” looks like.” said the Interpol spokesperson, but we’ve got some eye witness reports. Our artists are right now working with those eye witnesses who have survived incidents spurred by the criminal known as “The Climate” such as floods, droughts,heat waves and blizzards. We’ve also called in experts on “The Climate” from such institutions as Penn State. They’ve been looking closely at the drawings so far, and have advised that “The Climate” seems highly erratic, but a clear hockey stick shaped profile is emerging.”

    In other new, the EU has abandoned nuclear energy in its entirety, and will be shutting down all nuclear power sources.

    “It has to be done,” said EU Commissioner I. M. Fullovit. “These things are dangerous. Do you know that once they are running we don’t know how to shut them down? We’re turning our largest nuclear power source off first, and our scientists have advised that they aren’t even sure how to do it. How much more dangerous can you get?”

    Asked which nuclear power source he was speaking of, Commissioner Fullovit angrily shut down the press conference, yelling something about the big yellow thing in the sky. Our reporters are seeking clarification.

  84. You just can’t make this stuff up. I swear, life is so much more fascinating than any made up fiction.

  85. Wait a minute, it makes perfect sense. Didn’t I once see a graph on this blog clearly demonstrating an inverse proportional relationship between global warming and the number of pirates?

  86. My children’s children will understand more about ethics and be in absolute juxtaposition to Donald A Brown’s knowledge of it. The year is 2011. Civilisations have come and gone because of adherence to destructive ethical ideology. Some of us, in 2011, are over scarification of human progression because of a irrational of fear of the unknown. Donald acknowledges that there is uncertainty in climate science, so it’s only his ethics that are under question.

  87. “Ethics is in origin the art of recommending to others the sacrifices required for cooperation with oneself.”
    Bertrand Russell

  88. This event says a lot about Brown’s personality. In a nutshell, Brown will explore his personal wonderfulness and then talk about the several unique “energies” that flow from his inner person.

    Those energies include a life force that has a light side and a dark side. If he decides to unleash the dark side, all human life will end immediately except for the few he designates as “survivors.”

    His great compassion for mankind is another “energy” that enables him to feel the pain of all people in Bangladesh and all impoverished people throughout the world. This great compassion gives him the purely moral strength to strike down those among humanity who have enslaved all the people of Bangladesh and similar places. He will accomplish this with a carbon tax administered by the UN and Julia Gillard.

    An “energy” of intimacy creates his love for his colleagues and graduate students, especially the very young and tender among them who are in need of his touch. This “energy” bonds him so fully to the young and tender that others cannot see where professor ends and student begins.

    An intellectual “energy” enables him to practice science beyond all the chains that bind mortal men, empiricists, and anyone who is trapped in reality. This “energy” has led him to see that the Uber-Scientist* must live beyond good and evil. The Uber-Scientist will free mankind from the myths of fact, evidence, and reason while the Uber-Ethicist will enable us to use other humans as the crucible in which the Uber-Uber is created.

    Hear Ye, Hear Ye! All come to hear and see Professor Brown shine his light on you, hold back against your annihilation, bless you with the carbon tax of his compassion, bond with the blessed among you, and teach you to create and to be the Uber-Scientist, the Uber-Ethicist, and the Uber-Uber. /sarc

    If you don’t get “Uber-Scientist,” google Uber-mensch or Ubermensch.

  89. I just went over to Pielke Jr.’s and he has a post that compares the changes made to the Extreme Weather report that was just released for COP17.

    From:
    “Long-term trends in normalized economic disaster losses cannot be reliably attributed to natural or anthropogenic climate change, particularly for cyclones and floods (medium evidence, high agreement).”

    To:
    “Long-term trends in economic disaster losses adjusted for wealth and population increases have not been attributed to climate change, but a role for climate change has not been excluded (medium evidence, high agreement).”

    Roger attributes that to the IPCC process….maybe he’s being droll, but I just call it fogging something up for purposes of disinformation. I.e. Propagandize.

    The first says ‘we looked and found no correlation’…the second, ‘we pretty much don’t know…can’t say…but could be’

    http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/

  90. Barry L. says:
    November 29, 2011 at 8:05 pm
    I would hope that you and every other reader here would have the temerity to stand up and shout from the rooftops. Grab the pitchfork if necessary, for if what you suggest happens, it will not be long before they are coming for you too.

  91. During the last 100 years the leftist have tried several ideological paths(ideas).
    Socialism, social democracy, national socialism, communism in many different forms etc.

    Active radicals in the 60′s and 70′s at that time looked up at USSR, Khmer and Mao as an alternative to the Western democracy.

    Their main attempt today is to establish a new world order with global enviro socialism.
    And to put people behind bars for not beefing conform or question this ideologies claims.

    Gives me a dejavu feeling?

  92. Next up on the Penn State lecture series:

    “A Hands-on Approach to Male Adolescent Development”. A lecture by Joe Paterno.

    “Basic Practices for Integrity in Statistics”. A tutorial in curve bending by Michael Mann.

    “The Virtue of Monogamy”. Guess speakers to include Dominique Strauss-Kahn and William J. Clinton.

    These people have no shame.

  93. jorgekafkazar says:
    November 29, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    “Uh, exactly where in the link can I find Al Gore?

    If you find it difficult linking Al Gore to climate related mitigation schemes you may have a few large gaps between synapses. Just kidding! But I do suggest you read this:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/world/africa/in-scramble-for-land-oxfam-says-ugandans-were-pushed-out.html?_r=1

    Selected paragraphs from above article:

    But in this case, the government and the company said the settlers were illegal and evicted for a good cause: to protect the environment and help fight global warming.

    “The case twists around an emerging multibillion-dollar market trading carbon-credits under the Kyoto Protocol, which contains mechanisms for outsourcing environmental protection to developing nations.

  94. The “piratical significance” of the climate change negotiations is not a typo. It refers to the well-known correlation between global temperatures and number of pirates. Durban negotiations must succeed to keep the number of pirates below the tipping point.

  95. First, if this Donald Brown program doesn’t present a gold plated boondoggle travel opportunity that is publicly paid for, I can’t imagine anything better. And he thinks he gets to save the world and show how to punish the pirates to boot.

    Second, please note the co-oincident in timing of this “conference” and the Waxman show. This is clearly a new, well coordinated international and national political campaign for the saintliness of the team and the dishonest disregard for all life on this planet by the skeptics. The Waxman event was noted earlier today by:

    Dickens Goes Metro
    November 29, 2011 at 2:58 pm
    To kick off the National Climate Ethics Statement
    To Be Released November 30 On Capital Hill

    Third, please also note that the US has pulled out of the UNFCCC negotiations to impose a new international tax on rich countries to pay to poor countries. Perhaps this Administration has finally recognized that there are no more rich countries, thanks in part to this Administration’s policy to already have spent all that we didn’t yet have, and can’t afford to agree to do it again.

    Finally, factor in that Canada will withdraw from Kyoto very soon. That doesn’t leave many countries standing to pick up the bill. Good luck Australia. Good luck UK. Good luck Germany.

  96. I would like to add:
    This new new order global enviro socialism is dressed up as being based on science and facts.
    But it’s obvious for many that this is not the case.
    Actually the basis for today’s enviro socialism is more a political or ideological idea.

  97. Well, Nick Leeson, who gambled away £827 million and caused the collapse of the UK’s oldest investment bank, is now “active on the keynote / after-dinner speaking circuit where he advises companies about risk and corporate responsibility”, according to Wikipedia.

  98. re post by: Mike Smith says: November 29, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Next up on the Penn State lecture series: ….

    Guest Lecturer, President Obama’s Safe Schools Czar, Kevin Jennings, is to present a speech on Wholesome Relationships In a Safe University Setting.

  99. Pensioners here in the UK are going to die this winter because they cannot afford the escalating food and energy price rises.
    If they complain, they are committing a crime against humanity ???

  100. Dear Anthony
    I knew this could not be true so I doubly checked. Unfortunately you didn’t quite take down the correct title so I thought I would re-produce below :-)
    “An Ethical Critique of the Climate Science Disinformation Campaign carried out by Real Climate, UEA and their associates”
    Regards

  101. It’s easy to mock this sort of thing – but that is the wrong response. The Penn State Center for Climate Ethics is well funded and there are many who will welcome its message:

    http://rockblogs.psu.edu/rockethics/

    Secondly there is indeed an important ethical element to the climate change debate. If you accept that anthropogenic emissions of CO2 are a future problem then you should identify the real ‘culprits’.

    http://www.climatedata.info/Forcing/Emissions/Emissions/CO2.html

    The ten countries with the largest increase in CO2 emissions (in absolute not percentage terms) from 2000 to 2008 are: China, India, Iran, Russia, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Kazakhstan, Mexico, Thailand, Malaysia. And where is the USA in that list? At the bottom: over that period the USA had the largest fall in emissions.

    http://unstats.un.org/unsd/mdg/Metadata.aspx?IndicatorId=28

    If you don’t believe that CO2 emission are a problem then this also raises ethical isues. Is it right in a world where people die of starvation to divert food to fuel for rich countries? Is it right to drive pensioners into fuel poverty to pay for inefficient wind turbines?

    Don’t stand on the sidelines and sneer – joint in the debate.

  102. Second, we will look at the piratical significance for negotiations in Durban if climate change is understood to create human rights violations.
    Tuesday, November 29th, 1PM – 5PM,The University of Kwazulu-Natal,Howard College Campus Howard College Lecture Theater

    Howard is where Tamino / Grant Foster teaches.

  103. It sounds like they’re condemning themselves with their own criteria. Eg. disinformation campaign.

    Thats OK. Politicians also whitewash themselves when they’ve been found committing misdemeanours by setting up their own “star chambers”

  104. One time it rained when I didn’t want it to rain, so my human rights were violated and it was a crime against humanity.

  105. Ron [November 29, 2011 at 2:38 pm] says:

    Arrrr mateys. Mann o’erboard.

    Good one Ron!

    And God willing, it will be an actual headline in the near future. Copyright noted!

  106. “(blah) an ethical analysis of the climate change disinformation campaign. We will examine whether this is a new kind of crime against humanity?(blah)”

    A question that interests me is the extent that the climate change religion has caused actual suffering – production of biofuels causing third-world hunger, perhaps. Is there any analysis available?

    “climate change religion = crime against humanity” might be a meme that would propagate.

  107. good for you Joe Bastardi…I hope your letter gets to Mr. Brown.. we have three Penn State graduates in our little enclave in Bethany Beach, Delaware and they are without a doubt the nicest, most honorable people we know and they are truly sickened by those very few who have caused so much pain for them and all of us who are their friends.

  108. “new kind of crime against humanity?”

    Gotta love the decorous question mark there, leaving the matter in doubt. Just an inquiry, donchaknow. I’m reminded of George Will’s observation many years ago that you can be sure that an essay or seminar titled “Whither incest?” will not reenforce the existing prohibition against incest.

  109. Rob Soria says:
    November 29, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    The “piratical significance” of the climate change negotiations is not a typo. It refers to the well-known correlation between global temperatures and number of pirates. Durban negotiations must succeed to keep the number of pirates below the tipping point.

    I think you’re mistaken about that. If I recall the graph correctly, the relationship is inversely proportional. That is, more pirates = less global warming. Therefore, in order to combat climate change one needs more pirates, not less. This cause/effect relationship is clearly demonstrated by the increase in Somalia pirates and flattening, or even dipping, of global average temperature.

  110. Apologies if someone was quicker than me to note this error (I was busy reading and posting at Dot.Earth)-
    Shouldn’t the conference title read-
    An Ethical Critique of OUR Climate Science Disinformation Campaign

    Clueless indeed!

  111. davidmhoffer says:
    November 29, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Excellent! It has come to my attention that a special organization has been called in to hunt down “The Climate”. This organization is:

    THE CAUSE

    It’s headed by special agent Mike Mann, and his group of highly trained climate commandos (Gavin, Jim, Kevin, Susan, and more!).


    PS. Hey Kids! Look for the new “THE CAUSE” action figures and fantasy game this holiday season! Mike, Gavin, Jim and the gang hunt down agents of the the evil worldwide (oil funded) syndicate – S.K.E.P.T.I.X.

    Included in the set is a signed copy of “An Inconvenient Truth” DVD, an “I am a Climate Commando” tee shirt, AND your own Climate GCM model, created for exclusively for Playstation 3, Xbox 360, and the WII. Don’t dream of being a climate commando – BE ONE!

    (Available where ever fine toys are sold).

  112. How can one lecture or argue about something no one understands? Doesn’t modern ethics depend on the situation?

  113. Johnny Caspar: I’m talkin’ about friendship. I’m talkin’ about character. I’m talkin’ about – hell. Leo, I ain’t embarrassed to use the word – I’m talkin’ about ethics.

  114. Mike Smith says:
    November 29, 2011 at 9:35 pm
    Next up on the Penn State lecture series:

    “A Hands-on Approach to Male Adolescent Development”. A lecture by Joe Paterno.

    “Basic Practices for Integrity in Statistics”. A tutorial in curve bending by Michael Mann.

    “The Virtue of Monogamy”. Guess speakers to include Dominique Strauss-Kahn and William J. Clinton.

    These people have no shame.

    It’s Mike from Kansas.
    We took 8 mm movie of people killed on the water by a Tornado 1971 Lake Cheney. 6 of us in 2 other boats lived. With the hockey stick since then, why aren’t there more tornado deaths in your area? We shot video because I was flying a new spinnaker.

    My contribution to ethics?
    Al (sex poodle) Gore visiting schools with his abstinence education tour.

  115. My name’s Chuck and I’m a “denier”.

    Take me away and string me up for not having “faith” in the cause and crimes against humanity ….mea culpa etc etc.

    You have to ask, what on earth is going on in these peoples heads when they’re obviously intent on criminalizing anyone who wont bow to their religion?
    They’re as bad as any fundamentalist nutcases from any other faith!

    It appears that having a difference of opinion is a hanging offense to the likes of these loons.
    Its all becoming very worrying that supposedly rational and “scientific” people should start espousing views such as these.

    I can only hope that Mr FOIA has such dynamite in the remainder of his zip file that he releases the password soon so the whole madness of the global warmers cause can be shattered, otherwise i fear for the future.

  116. From Tom Nelson, …

    Warmist Phil Jones on the problem with skeptics: “They mostly look at observation papers and ignore modelling ones, as they believe by default models are wrong!”

    http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2011/11/warmist-phil-jones-on-problem-with.html

    February 2008 — http://di2.nu/foia/foia2011/mail/1998.txt

    Reminds me of Trenberth from his October 2009, Climagegate 1 e-mail:
    “The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t. The CERES data … shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate.” [1255352257.txt]

  117. Very interesting comments on this subject. Everyone has their own ideas of what it should be… lol And yes James I read them all.

  118. Charles.U.Farley says:
    November 30, 2011 at 8:44 am

    ……I can only hope that Mr FOIA has such dynamite in the remainder of his zip file that he releases the password soon so the whole madness of the global warmers cause can be shattered, otherwise i fear for the future.

    I absolutely support Charles and implore that the password be immediately released. Too much is at stake here including where ‘this kind of science’ has been used for other purposes.

    Please release the password. Thank you.

  119. “New crime against humanity”, huh?

    How about discussing the elements of the “climate change science” schemes and practices that wallowed in old crimes against humanity, such as fiscal fraud and racketeering?

  120. DickF says:
    November 29, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    The inmates have taken over the asylum. I’m getting outta here!

    Nope. As I’ve said, the inmates are not only running the asylum, they designed it, built it and staffed it, all to their specifications.

    They didn’t HAVE to take it over…

    BTW, I’ve taken the liberty to correct the earnest (associate) professor’s job title

    Donald A. Brown
    Associate Professor Environmental Ethics, Science, and Law,

  121. This could be fun — where’s it going to be held? The University of Washington is in Seattle, which last I checked was a long ways from Pennsylvania. I know there are a few AGW fanatics at the UW, though I also met an oceanographer there (he was running for the US Senate) who seemed rather skeptical.

    For my take on AGW as a form of Buddhism, see my recent blog, “Global Warming: The Four Noble Half-Truths.”

  122. I strongly dislike the tone of the announcement above. The use of the term “crime against humanity” is scary. It sounds like they are wanting to bully reluctant politicians into compliance with “the cause”. What is the name of that axiom say that any discussion on a message board will eventually get around to a Hitler reference, if it goes on long enough? Well, when the subject of the post begins by saying that we’re all guilty of crimes against humanity, then isn’t the Hitler reference already there? That sounds like progress to me. Now we can skip right past all the lengthy discussion, and just go straight to the point of calling someone a Nazi because they disagree with us. Great.

  123. I suggest you listen to the podcast and ask yourself the question: “Do I want to risk the rest of my life in prison if not hunted down and lynched by the generation that _does_ understand that climate change is real and that will understand the role I played in delaying action to stop it?”
    I’m only trying to warn you. Don’t expect violent behaviour from me but do expect it from members of my generation. You and your gang are being closely observed and documented. My generation can read. They’ll know who’s responsible for their misery.
    Or look up on YouTube what Bob Inglis said at one climate hearing (quoting someone esle): “Make sure you say that very publicly because I want our grandchildren to read what you said and what I said…”
    So keep denying – publicly. Keep actively delaying climate action.
    (Go ahead and expose my comment. I don’t see what’s wrong with it…)

  124. Some European – see that is the problem. The false god of AGW does not have the courage of its convictions, so they resort to extortion, blackmail, violence and threats of violence to get their way.

    Nice of you to threaten all those who do not agree with you.

  125. re post by: Frank K. says: November 30, 2011 at 8:04 am

    davidmhoffer says: November 29, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Excellent! It has come to my attention that a special organization has been called in to hunt down “The Climate”. This organization is:

    THE CAUSE

    It’s headed by special agent Mike Mann, and his group of highly trained climate commandos (Gavin, Jim, Kevin, Susan, and more!).


    PS. Hey Kids! Look for the new “THE CAUSE” action figures and fantasy game this holiday season! Mike, Gavin, Jim and the gang hunt down agents of the the evil worldwide (oil funded) syndicate – S.K.E.P.T.I.X. …..

    I can just see the action figures now! We’ll just have to give them the other side – action figure toys of S.K.E.P.T.I.X. members who are made in the vein of the X-men, good people with super powers to fight the misguided members of The Cause.

    Is Anthony Watts really Professor Charles Francis Xavier? Who gets to be the model for The Wolverine? Is Sallie Baliunas Storm, and Judith Curry Phoenix or ??

    And who actually leads The Friends of Humanity? Michael Mann or Phil Jones? ;-)

  126. re post by: Some European says: November 30, 2011 at 11:58 am

    You seem to have far too much in common with the likes of the Unibomber, Osama Bin Laden, Anders Breivik, Jared Lee Loughner, and Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, etc.

    All of whom believed they were threatening and killing for the greater good based on some pretzel logic cause or another that, in their minds, the majority of us just refused to see.

  127. What will a decade’s silence in the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse case ultimately cost Pennsylvania’s largest public university, and by extension, its students and the taxpayers?

    The question may never be answered because Penn State doesn’t have to tell.

    An exemption to the state’s Right to Know Law that experts say is rare among comparable U.S. public universities already is being used by Penn State to deny access to records that would shed light on spending decisions the school is making amid the deepening crisis.

    State Rep. Eugene DePasquale, D-York County, says withholding those records is wrong, especially as Penn State scrambles to rebuild trust. He plans on Monday to introduce legislation with 31 co-sponsors to extend the Right-to-Know Law to Penn State and three other state-related universities — the University of Pittsburgh, Temple and Lincoln — that are largely exempt from it.

    Next, we will find out that Michael Mann will guest speak.

  128. The Press Briefing (about 30 minutes including Q&A) is recorded here:

    http://unfccc4.meta-fusion.com/kongresse/cop17/templ/play.php?id_kongresssession=4317&theme=unfccc

    6 panelists, maybe 4 members of the press (hard to see). Connection between climate change and human rights is the main theme. Climategate 1 & 2 are mentioned as an attack against the scientists and not touching the fundament of the consensus that climate change is caused by humans…

  129. if we are allowed a brief comic interlude, this quick video has more ethical content than anything the CAGWarmists have to say:

  130. The some european “troll” sounds more like a North Korean?

    Don’t waste your time on him.

    The best way to protect freedom of speech and scientific critic(enlightenment) in the future is to stand up and fight for them today.
    If you let the radical environmentalist (enviro-socialism/communism) have it their way (give away our freedom for security)there will defnitly be a far greater chance that we end up loosing both freedom and security.

  131. Of course, I didn’t threaten anyone. But I know y’all can’t read, otherwise you would have understood climate science long ago…
    Have a nice day!

  132. Some European:

    I read your posts with interest and sadness. Interest because it is informative to read the views of one who yearns for a return of the Third Reich so much that the yearning drives him/her to express it in this thread. Sadness because anybody who wants that return is clearly deluded.

    I write to sincerely suggest that you obtain medical aid before your delusion results in harm to yourself or others.

    Richard

  133. Richard S Courtney

    The problem is that he is not alone.

    Many radical people demonstrated in the streets in late 60′s and 70′s to “make a better world”.

    And some of them are now in “control” in the “system” nationally and globally.

    They will never give up, because if they give up now all the marching in the streets in the 60.s and 70′s will look just plain stupid!

    Who wants to die of age looking like a complete jerk?

  134. Some European says:
    December 1, 2011 at 5:29 am
    If you read so well, look up “projection” in the psychology section of your institution.
    Then look up “evidence” and “critical thinking”. You seem unaware of all three terms.

  135. Ethics, smethics! Penn State officials wouldn’t know the difference. They can’t even police their own sports program. Hypocrisy at its best.

  136. I came upon a lot more about the now notorious Prof. Donald Brown here:

    http://www.climatedepot.com/a/7689/Climate-Ethics-Prof-Donald-Brown-Exposed-for-vacuous-spinning-of-science-and-subpar-understanding-of-climate-bill-Dab57psuedu

    Basically he’s trying to make all left-wing environmental campaigns a matter of “ethics” (sic) so that anyone who opposes or even questions a statement, proposal, legislative bill, etc. can now be attacked as “unethical” (sic).

    It’s a form of lefty propaganda that has been around for ages, newly dressed up in CAGW attire.

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