Climategate 2.0 emails – They're real and they're spectacular!

A link to where to download the new FOIA2011.zip file is posted below the fold – This will be a top post for a few days -NEW STORIES APPEAR BELOW THIS ONE -I’ve also reversed the order of the updates to be newest at top for better visibility – Anthony

UPDATE50: 1:15 PM PST 11/30 The genesis of RealClimate.org seems to have been found. Surprisingly, the BBC’s Roger Harrabin seems to have been involved in the genesis meeting.

UPDATE49: 10:00 AM PST 11/30 While not email related, just as Climategate breaks David Suzuki commits an egregious propaganda error second only to the 10:10 video where kids are blown up for not going along with carbon reduction schemes at school. He’s targeting kids and Santa Claus at Christmas – Santa’s home is melting.

UPDATE48: 9:20 AM PST 11/30 Dr. Phil Jones on the  “lack of warming” -he may need a backup plan.

UPDATE47: 9AM PST 11/30 Fudge factor collection in the emails, or is climate modeling a social issue?

UPDATE46: A look at UEA/CRU’s email infrastructure and email systems in general suggests that the “deleted” emails to/from Phil Jones and others at CRU probably still exist and can be subject to FOIA.

UPDATE45: 1:30PM PST 11/29 If there was award for clueless timing, this would win it no contest: Penn State to lecture on “climate ethics”

UPDATE44: 9AM PST 11/29 Mike Mann reprises the role of Captain Queeg in The Cain Mutiny when seeing de Freitas being vindicated by the publisher of Climate Research (see the update in the article).

UPDATE43: 8AM PST 11/29 An Excel Spreadsheet with Climategate 1 and 2 emails ordered chronologically should be helpful in determining that supposedly missing”context”

UPDATE42:  7AM PST 11/29 The CRU crew says:  “what we really meant was…”

UPDATE41: 4AM PST 11/29 James Padget schools Steve Zwick – Guide to Defending the Indefensible. Some people just can’t handle Climategate.

UPDATE40: 12AM PST 11/29 Penn State has the same “look the other way” problem with Climategate as they did with the Jerry Sandusky scandal.

UPDATE39: It seems “vexatious” is Dr. Phil Jones favorite new feeling word after summer 2009.

UPDATE38: Severinghaus says Mike Mann didn’t give a straight answer regarding why trees don’t work as thermometers after 1950

UPDATE37: Climate sensitivity can’t be quantified with the current data according to NCAR’s Wigley, with paleo data – even less so.

UPDATE36: Dr. Chris de Freitas responds to the ugly attempt by The Team at getting him fired.

UPDATE 35: “Stroppy” Dr Roger Pielke Sr. shows just how much a “old boys network” the peer review process is.

UPDATE34: More internal dissent of the hockey stick. Mann tries to beat down the concern over “hide the decline” while not letting the dissenting scientist know there was a decline.

UPDATE33: Gobsmacking! Rob Wilson proves McIntyre and McKittrick correct in an email to colleagues at CRU, showing that when random noise time series are fed into Mike Mann’s procedure, it makes “hockey sticks”. The confirmation that M&M is right never leaves the walls of CRU.

UPDATE32: 9:30PM PST  11/27 BREAKINGCanada to pull out of Kyoto protocol. Another Climategate fallout ?

UPDATE31: 4:30PM PST 11/27 BOMBSHELL An absolutely disgusting string of communications that shows the tribal attempt at getting an editor of a journal fired on made up issues – all because he allowed a publication that didn’t agree with “the Team”. This is ugly, disturbing, and wrong on every level.

UPDATE30: 9:45 AM PST 11/27 Newsbytes. Major crack in the warming wall at the UK prime minister’s office. BBC in collusion with Climategate scientists.

UPDATE29: 9AM PST 11/27 The saga of the missing station data at CRU and the “pants on fire” defense of it as told by Willis Eschenbach. Dr. Phil Jones is between a rock and a hard place, quite.

UPDATE 28: 1:30PM PST 11/26 An email shows the UNFCCC considers activists an essential tool saying “…organized and deeply committed environmental activism has long been an important part of the UNFCCC process…”

UPDATE27: 7AM PST 11/26 Climategate 2 features prominently in WUWT’s newest feature “Hits and Misses

UPDATE26: 2:50 PM 11/25 Two separate examples show obstruction and collusion by members of “The Team” to prevent any dissenting science from being properly considered by the NRC in 2007.

UPDATE25: 2PM 11/25 Keith Briffa asks another colleague to delete email to avoid FOIA

UPDATE24: 1:30PM 11/25 New Climategate 1/2 combined search engine here

UPDATE23: 9AM PST 11/25 via bishop-hill, strange infighting:

#4101 – Edward Cook tells Phil Jones that Mike Mann is “serious enemy” and “vindictive”. Mike Mann had criticized his work.

Apparently Mann went “a little crazy” over a paper showing the MWP exists.

Details here

UPDATE22: 11AM PST 11/24 Am unsurprising admission from a BBC environmental reporter to Dr. Phil Jones that they really have no impartiality at all (ho ho) when it comes to climate issues.

UPDATE21: 9:50AM PST 11/24 “FOIA2011″ and Climategate – A Chinese-POTUS connection?

UPDATE20: 9:30AM PST 11/24 World renowned climatologist Phil Jones can’t even plot a temperature trend line in Excel. I’ve offered a solution that WUWT readers can help with.

UPDATE19: 9AM PST 11/24 Gail Combs finds some disturbing connections between the Team and The World Bank

UPDATE18: 1:45PM Scott Mandia, aka “Supermandia” wins the award for the silliest climategate rebuttal, ever. It’s like stupid on steroids.

UPDATE17: 12:55PM PST 11/23 Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. has an excellent piece on “Gatekeeping” related to Trenberth and the Pielke-Landsea hurricane paper and the IPCC. You may recall Landsea resigned from the IPCC over this. Pielke says: “The gatekeeping of the IPCC process is abundantly clear, and the shadowy suggestion that they can find out who the reviewers are from another colleague is a bit unsettling as well.” Trenberth looks particularly bad here.

UPDATE16: 11:30AM PST 11/23 Insider scientist at CRU says our “reaction to Mike Mann’s errors was not particularly honest” – story here

UPDATE15: 7:50AM 11/23 Ric Werme found an email from the late John L. Daly to Mike Mann and the team – it is well worth a read here

UPDATE14: 2:45 AM PST 11/23 Willis Eschenbach offers a guest post here explaining how his FOIA requests went astray. Mr. David Palmer was the Freedom of Information Officer for the CRU at the time. In the newly released emails, he expresses his frustration with the whole procedure.

UPDATE13: 12:05AM 11/23 Craig Stone writes:

I have published a searchable database of the emails at http://foia2011.org

All email addresses and phone numbers are automatically redacted. It’s extremely rudimentary right now, but I’ll be refining the functionality and improving the search capabilities and navigation over the course of the next week.

UPDATE 12: 9:30 PM PST We’ve known for some time that Al Gore made up a bunch of claims in his AIT movie that simply weren’t true. Now this revelation in the new email batch shows that in the case of Kilimanjaro’s disappearing snows, even Phil Jones and Dr. Lonnie Thompson don’t believe global warming is the cause, even though Thompson put out a press release nearly a year ago saying just that. Told ya so. Pants on fire and all that. Anything for “the cause” right?

UPDATE11: 4:45PM PST Kevin Trenberth gets all misty eyed and sing-songy at Christmas here

UPDATE10: 4:30PM PST Some thoughts on cracking the big remaining all.7z file here

UPDATE9: 2:25PM PST Josh weighs in with the first satirical cartoon here

UPDATE8: 140PM PST Mike Mann shows his true colors:

email 1680.txt

date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:03:05 -0400

from: “Michael E. Mann”..

subject: Re: Something not to pass on

to: Phil Jones

Phil,

I would not respond to this. They will misrepresent and take out of context anything you give them. This is a set up. They will certainly publish this, and will ignore any evidence to the contrary that you provide. s They are going after Wei-Chyung because he’s U.S. and there is a higher threshold for establishing libel. Nonetheless, he should

consider filing a defamation lawsuit, perhaps you too.

I have been talking w/ folks in the states about finding an investigative journalist to investigate and expose McIntyre, and his thusfar unexplored connections with fossil fuel interests.Perhaps the same needs to be done w/ this Keenan guy.

I believe that the only way to stop these people is by exposing them and discrediting them….

UPDATE7: 1:20 PM PST Phil Jones and Tom Wigley calls another scientist (The former state climatologist of California) a “jerk” for publishing his UHI results.

UPDATE6: 12:08PM PST Here’s an email that collaborates a radio interview I did in Seattle with Thomas Peterson in summer 2007, yes these are 100% real emails, no doubt whatsoever now. More here: Climategate 2.0 – NCDC: “Mr. Watts gave a well reasoned position”

UPDATE 5: 11:00AM PST In a statement, UEA doesn’t deny these emails, but posts about the whitewash investigations of the past, like they matter now.

UPDATE4: 9:45 AM PST I’ve changed the headline from Climategate 2.0 to Climategate 2.0  emails – They’re real and they’re spectacular!  with a hat tip to Jerry Seinfeld. The relevance of that headline is particularly interesting in the context of where Dr. James Hansen of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) has his office in NYC.

UPDATE3: 9:25 AM PST – Having read a number of emails, and seeing this quote from Mike Mann in the Guardian:

When asked if they were genuine, he said: “Well, they look like mine but I hardly see anything that appears damning at all, despite them having been taken out of context. I guess they had very little left to work with, having culled in the first round the emails that could most easily be taken out of context to try to make me look bad.”

I’m going to conclude they are the real deal. I’ve posted a BitTorrent link to the file below. One big difference between Climategate 1 and 2 is that in 1, it took days for the MSM to catch on, now they are on top of it.

UPDATE2: 8:45AM PST The Guardian has a story up by Leo Hickman, and this excerpt suggests they may be the real deal:

Norfolk police have said the new set of emails is “of interest” to their investigation to find the perpetrator of the initial email release who has not yet been identified.

The emails appear to be genuine, but this has yet to be confirmed by the University of East Anglia. One of the emailers, the climate scientist Prof Michael Mann, has confirmed that he believes they are his messages.

UPDATE1: 8:20 AM PST These emails have not been verified yet, and this story was posted by one of my moderating staff while I was asleep. Until such time they are verified, tread lightly because without knowing what is behind the rest of the zip file, for all we know it’s a bunch of recipes and collection of  lorem ipsum text files. I’m working to authenticate these now and will report when I know more – Anthony Watts

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Early this morning, history repeated itself. FOIA.org has produced an enormous zip file of 5,000 additional emails similar to those released two years ago in November 2009 and coined Climategate. There are almost 1/4 million additional emails locked behind a password, which the organization does not plan on releasing at this time.

The original link was dropped off in the Hurricane Kenneth thread at about 4 AM Eastern. It is still there.

Some initial snippets floating around the blogosphere:

<3373> Bradley: I’m sure you agree–the Mann/Jones GRL paper was truly pathetic and should never have been published. I don’t want to be associated with that 2000 year

“reconstruction”.

<3115> Mann:  By the way, when is Tom C going to formally publish his roughly 1500 year

reconstruction??? It would help the cause to be able to refer to that

reconstruction as confirming Mann and Jones, etc.

<3940> Mann:  They will (see below) allow us to provide some discussion of the synthetic

example, referring to the J. Cimate paper (which should be finally accepted

upon submission of the revised final draft), so that should help the cause a

bit.

<0810> Mann: I gave up on Judith Curry a while ago. I don’t know what she think’s she’s

doing, but its not helping the cause

<2440> Jones: I’ve been told that IPCC is above national FOI Acts. One way to cover yourself and all those working in AR5 would be to delete all emails at the end of the

process

<2094> Briffa: UEA does not hold the very vast majority of mine [potentially FOIable emails] anyway which I copied onto private storage after the completion of the IPCC

task.

JeffId has some initial reaction

From the ReadMe file:

/// FOIA 2011 — Background and Context ///

“Over 2.5 billion people live on less than $2 a day.”

“Every day nearly 16.000 children die from hunger and related causes.”

“One dollar can save a life” — the opposite must also be true.

“Poverty is a death sentence.”

“Nations must invest $37 trillion in energy technologies by 2030 to stabilize

greenhouse gas emissions at sustainable levels.”

Today’s decisions should be based on all the information we can get, not on

hiding the decline.

This archive contains some 5.000 emails picked from keyword searches. A few

remarks and redactions are marked with triple brackets.

The rest, some 220.000, are encrypted for various reasons. We are not planning

to publicly release the passphrase.

We could not read every one, but tried to cover the most relevant topics such

as…

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Here’s one about UHI that is convincing:

cc: liqx@cma.xxx

date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:16:37 +0800

from: =?gb2312?B?JUQ1JUM1JUMwJUYyJUMzJUY0IA==?= <limmy@xxx>

subject: Re:Re: thank you

to: p.jones@xxx

Dear Phil,

Again I find that the emails from my CMA mail boxes can not get to you.

From attaches please find the data of 42 urban stations and 42 rural stations (by your

list) and a reference of homogenization of the data. we have tested and adjusted the abrupt

discontinuities of the data during 1951-2001, but the following years (2002-2004) has only

been quality controled and added to the end of the series, but we found the relocation

during these 3 years have minor effects on the whole series in most of the stations.

I  partly agree with what Prof. Ren said. and we have done some analysis on the urban heat

island effect in China during past years. The results are differnt with Ren’s. But I think

different methods, data, and selection of the urban and rural stations would be the most

important causes of this. So I think it is high time to give some new studies and graw some

conclusion in this topic.  I hope we can make some new achives on this both on global scale

and in China.

Best

Qingxiang

—– Original Message —–

From: “Phil Jones” < p.jones@xxxx >

To: “Rean Guoyoo” < guoyoo@xxxx >

Cc: “%D5%C5%C0%F2%C3%F4” < limmy@xxx>, < liqx@cma.xxx >

Sent: 2007-09-24 16:25:59 +0800

Subject: Re: thank you

Dear Guoyu,

I think I emailed you from America last week. I am away again next week,

but here this week.

I do think that understanding urban influences are important.  I will

wait for Dr Li Qingxiang to send some data, but there is no rush, as I am

quite busy the next few weeks.

Best Regards

Phil

At 00:59 20/09/2007, you wrote:

The following message was returned back when I sent via cma site. I send it again via

this site. I also forwarded this message to Dr, Li Qingxiang.

Regards,

Guoyu

Dear Phil,

Thank you for your message of Sept 11, 2007. I have just been back from the US. Sorry

for the delayed response.

I noted the discussion on blog sites. This is indeed a big issue in the studies of

climate change.

In the past years, we did some analyses of the urban warming effect on surface air

temperature trends in China, and we found the effect is pretty big in the areas we

analyzed. This is a little different from the result you obtained in 1990. I think there

might be at least three reasons for the difference: (1) the areas chosen in the analyses

are different; (2) the time periods analyzed are obviously varied, and the aft-1990

period is seeing a more rapid warming in most areas of China; (3) the rural stations

used for the analyses are different, and we used some stations which we think could be

more representative for the baseline change.

We have published a few of papers on this topic in Chinese. Unfortunately, when we sent

our comments to the IPCC AR4, they were mostly rejected.

It is my opinion that we need to re-assess the urbanization effect on surface air

temperature records for at least some regions of the continents. I am glad that you are

going to redo it using the updated dataset. I expect you to obtain the new outcome.

As for the dataset, I believe that Dr. Li Qingxiang could give you a hand. He and his

group conducted a lot work of detection and adjustment of the inhomogeneities in the

past years, and the adjusted and the raw datasets are all stored and managed in his

center. The datasets we used are also from his center.

I’d be happy to discuss some issues with you late, but I would not necessarily be as a

co-author because my contribution would be rather minor.

Best regards,

Guoyu

NCC, Beijing

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JPeden
November 23, 2011 6:15 pm

What do I care about what the Vatican thinks? That would seem to be more up your alley, given your anti-scientific Religious fervor and “proofs”.

Chris B
November 23, 2011 6:21 pm

A prize suitable for a troll…..a trololo singalong.

November 23, 2011 6:24 pm

The warm and fuzzy, nostalgic pleasures of memories of Nov. 19, 2009 and the months ensuing has totally been shattered by the irritating intrusions of ‘The Pharmacist’. I wish people would not feed the troll. It has not added any meritorious insights or arguments, and has completely disrupted the focus on the newly released e-mails. It’s winning, through totally ignoring any arguments you throw at it, and repeating its tiresome slogans to wind you up. Don’t waste precious moments of your lives engaging with this troll.

Latitude
November 23, 2011 6:24 pm

From: Phil Jones
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 1:31 PM
To: Palmer Dave Mr (LIB)
Subject: Re: FW: FOI_08-50 ; EIR_08-01
Dave,
Do I understand it correctly – if he doesn’t pay the 10 we don’t have to respond?
With the earlier FOI requests re David Holland, I wasted a part of a day deleting numerous emails and exchanges with almost all the skeptics. So I have virtually nothing. I even deleted the email that I inadvertently sent. There might be some bits of pieces of paper, but I’m not wasting my time going through these.
Cheers
Phil
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Phil Jones
Nov. 24, 2009 : “We’ve not deleted any emails or data here at CRU”
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So Phil Jones wasted part of a day deleting emails…..
…..and one year later says he has not deleted emails
Didn’t Jones also testify that he had not deleted emails?
http://www.real-science.com/smoking-gun-phil-jones

philincalifornia
November 23, 2011 6:26 pm

Have A Physicist and R. Gates ever been seen in the same room together ??

markus
November 23, 2011 6:28 pm

Ha Ha ha. “A physicist” who believes a Pope who believes in a supernatural God. Ha Ha ha.

November 23, 2011 6:29 pm

“The Wheels Of Justice Grind Slowly, But They Grind Exceeding Finely.”
“Global Warming” and it’s ‘scientists’ continue to be ground into a fine powder. I have sublime feelings of happiness seeing the truth win out!

A physicist
November 23, 2011 6:29 pm

Ed says: The “record breaking” part of this is that these crossings were specifically undertaken, with the assistance of multiple ice breakers, to make the crossing through the large ice sections faster than had been done previously.
The implication that ordinary ships just sailed across the Arctic in a record breaking event is false.

Read a little deeper Ed. During the 2011 Arctic Sea crossings the (many!) cargo ships making the passage encountered zero pack-ice, only small amounts of brash ice,zero pirates (which saves greatly on nautical insurance!) and therefore required no ice-breaking assistance … although needless to say, the Russians were happy to collect fees to have their nuclear ice-breakers standing by!
So yes, these ice-free Arctic Sea transits are unprecedented in nautical history. What the Russians now intend is to use their nuclear icebreakers to open year-round Arctic Sea passage, even in the (greatly thinned by AGW) winter ice.
These are the behind-the-scenes economic considerations that are leading hard-nosed shipping CEOs and naval strategists around the world to abandon their climate-change skepticism.

Ed
November 23, 2011 6:32 pm

Also, the two ice breakers that accompanied the Vladimer Tihonov are the two most powerful ice breakers in the world, both of which are nuclear powered.
Reference
http://www.maritime-executive.com/article/tanker-vladimir-tikhonov-completes-successful-northern-sea-route-transit-in-a-week

November 23, 2011 6:34 pm

I wonder what Judith Curry is feeling about this?

Editor
November 23, 2011 6:37 pm

A physicist says:
November 23, 2011 at 6:08 pm

… That’s odd … the Pope’s Pontifical Academy totally disagrees … so hmmmm … those Vatican scientists must be all morons … or else … they’re witches!!

Having just wasted the time necessary to peruse their report, I’m forced to go with choice A, “morons”. Actually, I’d say “True Believers”, but it wasn’t on your list of choices …
w.

crosspatch
November 23, 2011 6:41 pm

There is no “ice free” Northern Route. The Northeast passage still needs to be prepared with icebreakers. Russia is expected to have the required infrastructure in place to support Northeast Passage oil shipments within 10 years. Sure, you can sometimes get tankers through there for brief periods. This was a year, for example, when the wind pushed the ice against the Canadian side of the Arctic Ocean. In a year when the wind pushes it against the Russian side, there will be no shipping unless the Russians could, in effect, break up the entire ice pack. It doesn’t have to do with temperature, it has more to do with wind direction. I don’t put it past the Russians to break up the entire ice pack if they can, as it is a hazard to shipping and they really don’t give a pinch of owl scat about any polar bears.

November 23, 2011 6:45 pm

Someone upthread posted the [non] “Physicist’s” gravatar:
http://en.gravatar.com/sidles
A bow tie! Yikes.☺ [<– deliberate razz, since his always-wrong 'facts' are too easy to refute.]

A physicist
November 23, 2011 6:53 pm

JPeden says: “What do I care about what the Vatican thinks? That would seem to be more up your alley, given your anti-scientific Religious fervor and ‘proofs’.

That faith and science can coexist in amity and mutual benefit — especially in regard to the moral and economic challenges of climate change — is wisdom that the Vatican has fully embraced.
Climate change skeptics, not so much, eh?
By the way, JPeden, sediment records indicate that it’s been about 10,000 years since our planet last saw ice-free Arctic seasons.
So maybe the Vatican is right? Let’s think about it, eh?

Fernando
November 23, 2011 6:57 pm

I look forward to the next up date …..

John Whitman
November 23, 2011 7:01 pm

What I find provocative is that Tim Osborn figured prominently in the IPCC’s seemingly intentional process degradation in the preparations of AR4 (see release 1.0 and release 2.0 of climategate emails) and he is currently a significant figure in preparation for AR5.
This needs close review to evaluate what changes should be advised about Tim Osborn’s position wrt AR5.
John

A physicist
November 23, 2011 7:04 pm

crosspatch says: “Sure, you can sometimes get tankers through there for brief periods. This was a year, for example, when the wind pushed the ice against the Canadian side of the Arctic Ocean.”

It’s mighty instructive, crosspatch, that the sea-merchant press is reporting that both the Canadian and Russian Arctic Sea Routes were open simultaneously in 2011. It’s the first time this has happened (as sediment records indicate) in ten thousand years.
Hmmm … maybe this gave the Vatican to think, eh?

Lance of BC
November 23, 2011 7:09 pm

I don’t know what is funnier, the comments by “a physicis(bo)t “or you guys arguing with a bot?! hehe!
* gets more popcorn

JPeden
November 23, 2011 7:10 pm

A physicist says:
November 23, 2011 at 6:29 pm
These are the behind-the-scenes economic considerations that are leading hard-nosed shipping CEOs and naval strategists around the world to abandon their climate-change skepticism.
The term “climate change” has been now made by your own Propaganda Operation to be equivalent to “CO2 = CAGW”. So it is you and Climate Science that does not believe in natural climate change having ever occurred.
Therefore, I seriously doubt what you say about “hard-nosed shipping CEOs and naval strategists” abandoning “their climate-change skepticism”, and especially in favor of your own verbal denialism placing fossil fuel CO2 as a sole cause of all “climate change”. But if they think the Arctic will be navigable for whatever reason, it’s fine with me, as long as they’re not going to get any “stimulus” money from me or my offspring, or turn out to be trusting people like you and John Corzine to place their bets.

Dave Wendt
November 23, 2011 7:16 pm

In Re the Northeast Passage
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2009/09/pictures-tell-story.html
http://www.cnrs-scrn.org/northern_mariner/vol03/tnm_3_2_1-17.pdf
Nothing new or earthshaking, it’s been going on since shortly after the turn of the previous century at least.

November 23, 2011 7:16 pm

I’d post the peer reviewed paper explaining the evidence of an ice-free Arctic 6 – 7,000 years ago, but what good would it do? Our newbie thread hijacker is a poster boy for cognitive dissonance. And if AGW were occurring to any measurable extent, the steric sea level would be accelerating. It isn’t.
I’ve not run across anyone as deluded and misinformed as the fake physicist in a loooong time.

David Falkner
November 23, 2011 7:17 pm

A physicist says:
November 23, 2011 at 7:04 pm
It’s mighty instructive, crosspatch, that the sea-merchant press is reporting that both the Canadian and Russian Arctic Sea Routes were open simultaneously in 2011.
Oh! No arguing with that! Oh wait, the article says 2008. Maybe this gives you time to think, huh?

mandas
November 23, 2011 7:25 pm

YAAAWWWNNNNNN!!!!!!!
I predict these emails will be twice as important as the past lot; ie 2 x zero = zero.

David Ball
November 23, 2011 7:32 pm

A physicist has done exactly what he set out to do. Distract. I wonder what benefit this is to him. Pretty sad and infantile way to get your jollies, …….
[Reply: True, and if he continues off topic he will be snipped. ~dbs, mod.]

November 23, 2011 7:32 pm

Lance of BC says:
November 23, 2011 at 7:09 pm
I don’t know what is funnier, the comments by “a physicis(bo)t “or you guys arguing with a bot?! hehe!
* gets more popcorn

I’m with you Lance –
This is the most popcorn worthy WUWT thread ever.

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