On The Hijacking of the American Meteorological Society (AMS)

Guest post by Bill Gray Professor Emeritus, Colorado State University

(AMS Fellow, Charney Award recipient, and over 50-year member)

June 2011

I am very disappointed at the downward path the AMS has been following for the last 10-15 years in its advocacy of the Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW) hypothesis. The society has officially taken a position many of us AMS members do not agree with. We believe that humans are having little or no significant influence on the global climate and that the many Global Circulation Climate Model (GCMs) results and the four IPCC reports do not realistically give accurate future projections. To take this position which so many of its members do not necessarily agree with shows that the AMS is following more of a political than a scientific agenda.

The AMS Executive Director Keith Seitter and the other AMS higher-ups and the Council have not shown the scientific maturity and wisdom we would expect of our AMS leaders. I question whether they know just how far off-track the AMS has strayed since they foolishly took such a strong pro-AGW stance.

The American Meteorological Society (AMS) was founded in 1919 as an organization dedicated to advancing scientific knowledge of weather and climate. It has been a wonderful beacon for fostering new understanding of how the atmosphere and oceans function. But this strong positive image is now becoming tarnished as a result of the AMS leadership’s capitulating to the lobby of the climate modelers and to the outside environmental and political pressure groups who wish to use the current AMS position on AGW to help justify the promotion of their own special interests. The effectiveness of the AMS as an objective scientific organization is being greatly compromised.

We AMS members have allowed a small group of AMS administrators, climate modelers, and CO2 warming sympathizers to maneuver the internal workings of our society to support AGW policies irrespective of what our rank-and-file members might think. This small organized group of AGW sympathizers has indeed hijacked our society.

The AMS should be acting as a facilitator for the scientific debate on the pro and con aspects of the AGW hypothesis, not to take a side in the issue. The AMS has not held the type of open and honest scientific debates on the AGW hypothesis which they should have. Why have they dodged open discussion on such an important issue? I’ve been told that the American Economic Society does not take sides on controversial economic issues but acts primarily to help in stimulating back and forth discussion. This is what the AMS should have been doing but haven’t.

James Hansen’s predictions of global warming made before the Senate in 1988 are turning out to be very much less than he had projected. He cannot explain why there has been no significant global warming over the last 10-12 years.

Many of us AMS members believe that the modest global warming we have observed is of natural origin and due to multi-decadal and multi-century changes in the globe’s deep ocean circulation resulting from salinity variations. These changes are not associated with CO2 increases. Most of the GCM modelers have little experience in practical meteorology. They do not realize that the strongly chaotic nature of the atmosphere-ocean climate system does not allow for skillful initial value numerical climate prediction. The GCM simulations are badly flawed in at least two fundamental ways:

  1. Their upper tropospheric water vapor feedback loop is grossly wrong. They assume that increases in atmospheric CO2 will cause large upper-tropospheric water vapor increases which are very unrealistic. Most of their model warming follows from these invalid water vapor assumptions. Their handlings of rainfall processes are quite inadequate.
  1. They lack an understanding and treatment of the fundamental role of the deep ocean circulation (i.e. Meridional Overturning Circulation – MOC) and how the changing ocean circulation (driven by salinity variations) can bring about wind, rainfall, and surface temperature changes independent of radiation and greenhouse gas changes. These ocean processes are not properly incorporated in their models. They assume the physics of global warming is entirely a product of radiation changes and radiation feedback processes. They neglect variations in global evaporation which is more related to surface wind speed and ocean minus surface and air temperature differences. These are major deficiencies.

The Modelers’ Free Ride. It is surprising that GCMs have been able to get away with their unrealistic modeling efforts for so long. One explanation is that they have received strong support from Senator/Vice President Al Gore and other politicians who for over three decades have attempted to make political capital out of increasing CO2 measurements. Another reason is the many environmental and political groups (including the mainstream media) have been eager to use the GCM climate results as justification to push their own special interests that are able to fly under the global warming banner. A third explanation is that they have not been challenged by their peer climate modeling groups who apparently have seen possibilities for similar research grant support and publicity by copying Hansen and the earlier GCM modelers.

I anticipate that we are going to experience a modest naturally-driven global cooling over the next 15-20 years. This will be similar to the weak global cooling that occurred between the early-1940s and the mid-1970s. It is to be noted that CO2 amounts were also rising during this earlier cooling period which were opposite to the expected CO2-temperature association.

An expected 15-20 year cooling will occur (in my view) because of the current strong ocean Meridional Overturning Circulation (MOC) that has now been established in the last decade and a half and ought to continue for another couple of decades. I explain most of the last century and-a-half general global warming since the mid-1800s (start of the industrial revolution) to be a result of a long multi-century slowdown in the ocean’s MOC circulation. Increases of CO2 could have contributed only a small fraction (0.1-0.2oC) of the roughly ~ 0.7oC surface warming that has been observed since 1850. Natural processes have had to have been responsible for most of the observed warming over the last century and a half.

Debate. The AMS is the most relevant of our country’s scientific societies as regards to its members having the most extensive scientific and technical background in meteorology and climate. It should have been a leader in helping to adjudicate the claims of the AGW advocates and their skeptical critics. Our country’s Anglo-Saxon derived legal system is based on the idea that the best way to get to the truth is to have opposite sides of a continuous issue present their differing views in open debate before a non partisan jury. Nothing like this has happened with regards to the AGW issue. Instead of organizing meetings with free and open debates on the basic physics and the likelihood of AGW induced climate changes, the leaders of the society (with the backing of the society’s AGW enthusiasts) have chosen to fully trust the climate models and deliberately avoid open debate on this issue. I know of no AMS sponsored conference where the AGW hypothesis has been given open and free discussion. For a long time I have wanted a forum to express my skepticism of the AGW hypothesis. No such opportunities ever came within the AMS framework. Attempts at publication of my skeptic views have been difficult. One rejection stated that I was too far out of the mainstream thinking. Another that my ideas had already been discredited. A number of AGW skeptics have told me they have had similar experiences.

The climate modelers and their supporters deny the need for open debate of the AGW question on the grounds that the issue has already been settled by their model results. They have taken this view because they know that the physics within their models and the long range of their forecast periods will likely not to be able to withstand knowledgeable and impartial review. They simply will not debate the issue. As a defense against criticism they have resorted to a general denigration of those of us who do not support their AGW hypothesis. AGW skeptics are sometimes tagged (I have been) as no longer being credible scientists. Skeptics are often denounced as tools of the fossil-fuel industry. A type of McCarthyism against AGW skeptics has been in display for a number of years.

Recent AMS Awardees. Since 2000 the AMS has awarded its annual highest award (Rossby Research Medal) to the following AGW advocates or AGW sympathizers; Susan Solomon (00), V. Ramanathan (02), Peter Webster (04), Jagadish Shukla (05), Kerry Emanuel (07), Isaac Held (08) and James Hansen (09). Its second highest award (Charney Award) has gone to AGW warming advocates or sympathizers; Kevin Trenberth (00), Rich Rotunno (04), Graeme Stephens (05) Robert D. Cess (06), Allan Betts (07), Gerald North (08) and Warren Washington and Gerald Meehl (09). And the other Rossby and Charney awardees during this period are not known to be critics of the AGW warming hypothesis.

The AGW biases within the AMS policy makers is so entrenched that it would be impossible for well known and established scientists (but AGW skeptics) such as Fred Singer, Pat Michaels, Bill Cotton, Roger Pielke, Sr., Roy Spencer, John Christie, Joe D’Aleo, Bob Balling, Jr., Craig Idso, Willie Soon, etc. to ever be able to receive an AMS award – irrespective of the uniqueness or brilliance of their research.

What Working Meteorologists Say. My interaction (over the years) with a broad segment of AMS members (that I have met as a result of my seasonal hurricane forecasting and other activities) who have spent a sizable portion of their careers down in the meteorological trenches of observations and forecasting, have indicated that a majority of them do not agree that humans are the primary cause of global warming. These working meteorologists are too experienced and too sophisticated to be hoodwinked by the lobby of global climate modelers and their associated propagandists. I suggest that the AMS conduct a survey of its members who are actually working with real time weather-climate data to see how many agree that humans have been the main cause of global warming and that there was justification for the AMS’s 2009 Rossby Research Medal (highest AMS award) going to James Hansen.

Global Environmental Problems. There is no question that global population increases and growing industrialization have caused many environmental problems associated with air and water pollution, industrial contamination, unwise land use, and hundreds of other human-induced environmental irritants. But all these human-induced environmental problems will not go away by a draconian effort to reduce CO2 emissions. CO2 is not a pollutant but a fertilizer. Humankind needs fossil-fuel energy to maintain its industrial lifestyle and to expand this lifestyle in order to be able to better handle these many other non-CO2 environmental problems. There appears to be a misconception among many people that by reducing CO2 we are dealing with our most pressing environmental problem. Not so.

It must be remembered that advanced industrial societies do more for the global environment than do poor societies. By greatly reducing CO2 emissions and paying a great deal more for our then needed renewable energy we will lower our nation’s standard of living and not be able to help relieve as many of our and the globe’s many environmental, political, and social problems.

Obtaining a Balanced View on AGW. To understand what is really occurring with regards to the AGW question one must now bypass the AMS, the mainstream media, and the mainline scientific journals. They have mostly been preconditioned to accept the AGW hypothesis and, in general, frown on anyone not agreeing that AGW is, next to nuclear war, our society’s most serious long range problem.

To obtain any kind of a balanced back-and-forth discussion on AGW one has to consult the many web blogs that are both advocates and skeptics of AGW. These blogs are the only source for real open debate on the validity of the AGW hypothesis. Here is where the real science of the AGW question is taking place. Over the last few years the weight of evidence, as presented in these many blog discussions, is beginning to swing against the AGW hypothesis. As the globe fails to warm as the GCMs have predicted the American public is gradually losing its belief in the prior claims of Gore, Hansen, and the other many AGW advocates.

Prediction. The AMS is going to be judged in future years as having foolishly sacrificed its sterling scientific reputation for political and financial expediency. I am sure that hundreds of our older deceased AMS members are rolling in their graves over what has become of their and our great society.

[duplicate text removed ~ ctm]

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Editor
June 16, 2011 6:51 pm

Chris,
Good luck at GISS. Many of the national labs (NASA, Navy, GFDL) are excellent places to spend a summer and develop connections. I think Gray is making more of a political argument about the AMS, which has clearly moved to the left on the climate ideological spectrum. When James Hansen was awarded the Rossby medal, and then didn’t show up, the AMS really looked ideological and dogmatic.

Latitude
June 16, 2011 6:53 pm

Chris Colose says:
June 16, 2011 at 3:39 pm
” in the way advertised by Bill,”
” I’d love to chat with you more though”
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LOL “Bill”? “chat”?
Gosh Chris, didn’t realize you were so mature for you age…………………………

Glenn Burns
June 16, 2011 6:59 pm

I cannot agree more with Dr. Gray. I have been a member of the AMS for 35 years and forecasting for nearly 40 years. Those of us who are not climatologists, that work in the trenches with daily weather, can clearly see the warm and cool periods are cyclical. May be some day the climatologists will actually look at the 11 year sunspot cycle!

Kevin O'Neill
June 16, 2011 7:04 pm

Professor Gray’s first objection – that water vapor feedbacks are grossly wrong isn’t backed up by any citations, but I did a quick Google search and my first hit was “Global Cooling After the Eruption of Mount Pinatubo: A Test of Climate Feedback by Water Vapor” by Brian J. Soden, Richard T. Wetherald,Georgiy L. Stenchikov, and Alan Robock 2002.
The GCMs were specifically tested in a real-world situation to test the accuracy of their sensitivities to lower and upper tropospheric water vapor. Their conclusion: “These results provide quantitative evidence of the reliability of water vapor feedback in current climate models, which is crucial to their use for global warming projections.”

Bill
June 16, 2011 7:12 pm

I predicted the radical left environmentists would attack non believers in AGW 15 years ago and now it has arrived. They are not interested in science, they are only driven by ideology which has no place in science. Anyone who claims the there is no debate about AGW is a fraud and con artist. They should be relieved of their position.

RobJM
June 16, 2011 7:12 pm

Its great to see Bill Grey understands how a engine/radiator system works. Most climate scientist seem to think that the slowing down of the MOC/gulfstream causes cooling, when it clearly causes global warming. Of course at the same time the radiator gets colder if you shut off the supple of water from the engine. Of course some people think ocean circulation has little effect on climate despite the fact that the geological record show that major climate changes are associated with changes in ocean circulation driven by tectonics.
I’m amazed that more climate scientist don’t look towards the patten of atmospheric and oceanic mixing as the obvious cause of climate change.

Jim D
June 16, 2011 7:19 pm

Bill Gray’s idea that AGW relies on models is wrong. It starts with Arrhenius and Tyndall over a century ago. Arrhenius had the basic ideas right, if not the current more accurate numbers for radiation. If he wants a physics debate, it should be on why he thinks Arrhenius was wrong that increasing CO2 should have a warming effect, or whether he believes the current total greenhouse effect really is 33 C. These are the basic science ideas that such debates would start with. Most AMS members would accept these points without needing a debate, however.

June 16, 2011 7:20 pm

Hugh Pepper says:
“Sadly, your corespondent, Emeritus Professor Gray omitted mentioning that the AMS position which he condemns, was in fact an endorsement of a position taken by 11 National Academies of SCience…”
Pepper inadvertently highlights the problem: a handful of people at the top deign to speak for thousands of rank-and-file members who, if it were put to a vote by secret ballot, would vote overwhelmingly that the effect of human emiisions is unproven, since there is no evidence of AGW! There may be a minor effect – or not. But until measurable, testable evidence of AGW is produced, it must be assumed that it is nothing more than an evidence-free hypothesis, based on models and nothing more.
And, Chris Colose

Rattus Norvegicus
June 16, 2011 7:21 pm

Anthony, so glad for your witty repose to Chris’s second comment. Any idiot could have clicked on his name and been taken to the same site as you linked to.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
June 16, 2011 7:32 pm

Rattus Norvegicus said on June 16, 2011 at 7:21 pm:

Anthony, so glad for your witty repose to Chris’s second comment. Any idiot could have clicked on his name and been taken to the same site as you linked to.

Anything special happen when you clicked?

June 16, 2011 7:35 pm

u.k.
“Thinking for yourself” is not synonymous with disagreeing with the consensus for the sake of disagreeing with it, but rather trying to objectively determine why it is the consensus.

JPeden
June 16, 2011 7:47 pm

Hugh Pepper says:
June 16, 2011 at 4:27 pm
Sadly, your corespondent, Emeritus Professor Gray omitted mentioning that the AMS position which he condemns, was in fact an endorsement of a position taken by 11 National Academies of SCience.
Where is the AMS Board’s statement that their statement itself, and any “consensus” derived internal to the board or extended therefrom, when combined with the statements of other Boards, is not part of the Scientific Method, nor part of any known scientific principle?
As to the AMS statement itself, where are the individual votes of the Board members recorded, and where are the individual votes of the rest of the members of the Society recorded for access?

Venter
June 16, 2011 8:09 pm

Chris Colose put up an appearance in Steve McIntyre’s thread about how Lindzen & Choi’s paper was treated by PNAS. He made the same ad-hom attacks on Lindzen and on Happer whom Lindzen nominated as the reviewer. This in spite of the fact the Chris’ \knowledge, qualifications and experience not been fit enough to wipe their boots. When his arguments were factually ripped apart, he claimed that all the posters ” needed to get out of posting at Climate Audit and see the world ” and that he was too busy and has other more important things to do. That was just 2 days ago. Glad to see what are the important things he is doing. He just goes around from blog to blog and throws ad homs at any scientist who talks about asking to prove AGW.
And this from a first year undergraduate student with no qualifications or experience in anything.

JPeden
June 16, 2011 8:22 pm

Should be above, “As to the ‘consensus’ weight of the AMS statement itself….”

Harpo
June 16, 2011 8:23 pm

What a brilliant read… and Chris Colose goes out of his way to prove Dr Gray’s point.
“As a defense against criticism they have resorted to a general denigration of those of us who do not support their AGW hypothesis”.
Thanks Chris, you’ve made my day. But seriously Chris, many years ago when I was a graduate engineer I was a whiz at designing filters. Butterworth, Elliptical.. could do them all, no computers, just an HP15C calculator, a pen and some paper. If you wanted a filter designed you came and saw me. Then one day a technician came in with a copy of PSpice Filter designer. I scoffed, much in the same way that you scoff at this site. But we ran some tests. Guess what I learned, MY SKILLS WERE OBSOLETE. Chris, the faster you realise that your skills are rapidly becoming obsolete the better off your life will be. No body here wishes you ill will, we just want to see you get back on track and learn the scientific method. Spending your life trying to convince yourself that AGW is true really is a waste.

SteveSadlov
June 16, 2011 8:34 pm

Chris C, you naively assume that integrating the dynamics over time spans makes radiation balance analysis accurate as a means of modeling climate. OK, show us your work. Let’s see your proofs.

JPeden
June 16, 2011 8:42 pm

Jim D says:
June 16, 2011 at 7:19 pm
If he wants a physics debate, it should be on why he thinks Arrhenius was wrong that increasing CO2 should have a warming effect….
No one is denying that CO2 interacts with long wave/IR. But so should and does water vapor as a stand alone ghg molecule. Therefore, so what? Water vapor should have a warming effect, but does it produce an atmospheric warming runaway, alone or with even smaller than current concentrations of CO2?

u.k.(us)
June 16, 2011 8:52 pm

Chris Colose says:
June 16, 2011 at 7:35 pm
u.k.
“Thinking for yourself” is not synonymous with disagreeing with the consensus for the sake of disagreeing with it, but rather trying to objectively determine why it is the consensus.
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Ok, first, science has nothing to do with consensus.
I rest my case.

June 16, 2011 8:52 pm

Don’t these organizations (like the AMS) have more-or-less democratic procedures for deciding who gets on their boards of directors? Are there no periodic elections? Are the majority of members such sheep that they allow the ‘official’ positions to represent their own? Or do they just acquiesce and agree?
Inquiring minds want to know. . .
/Mr Lynn

June 16, 2011 8:57 pm

Venter, you can at least get the fact that I’m a graduate student right (and yes, I actually do have a day job getting myself into climate research, so I’m tied up with things more important than blogging). A couple of years studying climate and even going through basic radiation/dynamics courses will give you a bit of perspective on the arguments. Again, that is why I paid tuition, paid for textbooks, and devoted a lot of time over several years to reading a lot of papers. A lot of this stuff isn’t tough to get, even without expertise, with just some calculus and physics background.
Given that so many people are attacking my status as a student in the field, I am wondering if anyone here aside from Ryan Maue has even taken a 101 course, has given presentations or went to conferences in atmospheric physics related topics? My impression is that everyone here wants very badly to be the rebel, the guy who “thinks for themselves” and ignores all authority. That is all good and dandy, except I am baffled as to how exactly people are going about “thinking for themselves” without some training in the field? Or is this just a matter of siding with whoever happens to be the most articulate (which I freely admit, is probably not the climate scientists)?

savethesharks
June 16, 2011 9:01 pm

Chris Colose says:
June 16, 2011 at 7:35 pm
u.k.
“Thinking for yourself” is not synonymous with disagreeing with the consensus for the sake of disagreeing with it, but rather trying to objectively determine why it is the consensus.
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Uh huh. Yeah.
OR….[to use your words] “rather trying to objectively determine why it is the consensus…” …whether the objective determination of the consensus…is objective or determinable at all.
Let’s see your “objective determination of the consensus”…and let’s see if it has any scientific merit at all.
And no, no adjustments are to be made for any type of factors related to groupthink disorder.
Will let the raw data speak for itself.
So….let me ask you this Chris….you seem like a reasonable man….what are your parameters for determining the telelogical “reasons” for the “consensus.”?
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

Kevin O'Neill
June 16, 2011 9:08 pm

Harpo says:

…we just want to see you get back on track and learn the scientific method.

The scientific method is what has brought the overwhelming majority of scientists to accept AGW as true. In the 19th century Fourier recognized the earth would be much colder without an atmosphere. Tyndall described the importance of water vapor as a GHG: Remove for a single summer-night the aqueous vapour from the air… and the sun would rise upon an island held fast in the iron grip of frost. Arrhenius articulated the role of CO2 as the “control knob” regulating the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere.
These are not alarmist or leftist environmental talking points – they’re basic physics. These basic physical insights have been known for 150 years. With larger and more accurate data sets, satellite observations, and high speed computers we now have the tools to expand upon the work of these early pioneers. That’s the way science works.

grayman
June 16, 2011 9:16 pm

I have said it before, who better to know the climate of this world than a meteorologist. To be able to understand the climate you must know about the weather and the how and why of it to include the atmosphere and oceans, jet streams and more. There are to many variables to put it all on CO2! And NO GCM and its programmer will ever be able to do it with any confidence as the models have proven over the past couple of decades to be WRONG!

Frank K.
June 16, 2011 9:25 pm

Hello Chris Colose! Welcome to WUWT.
Hey, since you’re at GISS, could you ask Gavin Schmidt to once and for all properly document his AOGCM code, Model E? It’s one of the worst documented (and written) codes I’ve seen, and yet people are attempting to use it to make predictions which will negatively affect my life (though the IPCC, EPA and other autocratic bodies). I don’t even think anyone knows what differential equations it’s solving. Thanks in advance.

REPLY:
He’s not at GISS, which is in NYC, he’s in Madison at UW, Home of McIdas and SEIU riots taking over the capital and all that. – Anthony

Jim D
June 16, 2011 9:39 pm

JPeden, no one is expecting a runaway greenhouse effect, unless you call 3-4 C warming by 2100 a runaway. I haven’t seen Gray address the GHG issue yet, and why he doesn’t believe it is more important than his own invented AMO theory. A debate on CO2 would be very useful for him to show where he stands exactly. He knows about radiation and clouds (at least in the 70’s he had a well known paper on it), so why aren’t we seeing his view on it? Maybe his life’s work on hurricanes has skewed his view that the oceans are more important. I don’t know how he got to where he is scientifically.

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