What climate science has come to: a rap music video with expletives

While not as bad as the horrid 10:10 video exploding children, I have to wonder this about the actual scientists that participated in this farce: what were you thinking ?

Of course, it does seem some circles in climate science are all about bling, and cheerleaders, and labeling people with ugly insulting profanity these days. So maybe, this is simply “state of the art”. The phrase “Real Climate Scientists” is used…hmm.

Watch this video from Australia (warning – profanities)

The lyrics are available here at the website where they made the video.

h/t to Robert C. via email

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Mike Bromley
May 11, 2011 12:10 pm

As if it weren’t pugnacious enough, we reduce it to sneering gangstas.

May 11, 2011 12:15 pm

Hmmm! Very edifying.

May 11, 2011 12:16 pm

Good lord.
Still, at least some of them might be able to switch careers to the music industry when the AGW bubble bursts and they can’t find jobs.

chris b
May 11, 2011 12:18 pm

OMG……….It really is worse than we thought.
Is this what Organized Science has come to?
Maybe we should counter with skeptical break-dancing.

May 11, 2011 12:18 pm

It is probably their best argument yet.

Theo Goodwin
May 11, 2011 12:19 pm

Obviously, they are rappers. Maybe this is a rapper’s criticism of climate science.

May 11, 2011 12:21 pm

This looks like a failed attempt to counter the insanely successful “Boom and Bust” video that oppose socialism(aka global warming science).


David, UK
May 11, 2011 12:22 pm

50 seconds was all I could manage. Jesus, it makes you want to weep, the fact that that actual scientists think that this is the best way to convince the world of their hypothesis. On the positive side, the only people who would actually be suckered by this
crap would be the cretins who already “believe.”
Still, I need a drink.

May 11, 2011 12:24 pm

Wow…just wow.
Oh and maybe a Really?!? (just for good measure)
Seems to me that a lot of the “Climate Scientists” in that video were actually aspiring scientists (read students).
Didn’t we all do stupid things in college? Granted just not this monumentally stupid.

May 11, 2011 12:24 pm

I must credit these fellow Aussies for doing more to discredit CAGW than most sceptics… ironic, I know. I have to laugh at it or I’d be embarrassed for my fellow antipodeans.

May 11, 2011 12:25 pm

Great job “climate scientists”… SELF DESTRUCT!

Wondering Aloud
May 11, 2011 12:26 pm

Just because they say so doesn’t make it so. In addition to being annoying, which is no surprise, I would question their expertise as much as that of the people they are deriding.
A scientist isn’t a person who parrots talking points on an issue and tries to turn the learning process into a religious crusade.

Pull My Finger
May 11, 2011 12:26 pm

As a father of a 13 year old I’m glad to tell you that ANYTHING presented to teenagers in the form of a rap video is immediately and summarily dismissed as pathetic. One more nail in their own coffin.
Frankly ANYTHING presented to ANYONE as a rap video is pathetic.
And can anyone tell me exactly what qualifies one as a “Climate Scientist”? My University which has one of the largest Meteorology Depts in the country only offers Climatology as a minor in the Geography Dept. Somehow a PhD in Metorolgy, Geography, Physics or Statistics is less qualified to opine on the matter than someone with a minor in Climate Science? More like “Climate Studies”.

May 11, 2011 12:26 pm

Aw lighten up! This deserves a homour tag. Who said “Somebody just can’t handle satire”?? http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/04/21/second-mann-spoof-video-removed/

May 11, 2011 12:27 pm

It’s a hybrid video! Dual-purpose! It’s good propaganda for the Carbon Cult when seen by uninformed youngsters, and it’s also a perfect better-than-Onion parody of the Carbon Cult when seen by well-informed old coots.

May 11, 2011 12:28 pm

How embarassing for real “climate scientists” (if there were such things). It’s all physics, doncha know. I wonder how many of them are physicists.

Pull My Finger
May 11, 2011 12:29 pm

Oh yea, where did Al Gore get his Climatology PhD? At the bottom of a Super Sized McRib Value Meal?

May 11, 2011 12:30 pm

If you look at his other videos, its quote obvious he’s more activist/communist than a scientist.

P Walker
May 11, 2011 12:30 pm

This reeks of desperation and poor taste .

Ken Smith
May 11, 2011 12:33 pm

Each week I browse a number of “climate skeptic” blogs. I often look for signs that a “tipping point” has arrived, indicating that the alarmist edifice is crumbling beyond all possible repair. This video, more than anything I have seen this year, convinces me that this point has arrived. Thanks for posting.

May 11, 2011 12:33 pm

Most of them aren’t climate scientists. Also, those claiming to be PhD do not say what their PhD is in. At least one of them had “economics” in their title. Many were students or lecturers.
It’s interesting how “Deniers” were portrayed with a cowboy hat, boots and lots of money with clear destroy-the-world behavior. I wonder if any of those “climate scientists” in the video have ever once stopped to consider that the people “denying” their conclusion look exactly like them, hold the same jobs, have the same education they do. But of course, they couldn’t be honest about that, we’re just a bunch of profiteers seeking to light the world on fire.
The parallels between:
and the climate science community make this ironically an appropriate form of art in which to express the disagreement.

May 11, 2011 12:37 pm

I am a musician, amongst other things. One of the longest-lived one-line jokes amongst musicians is “Let’s put the ‘C’ back in rap”. These guys have finally rendered that joke unusable by doing just that.
Angry, desperate, and – now – talentless. Don’t they know when to keep their mouths shut?

Johnny in NQ
May 11, 2011 12:46 pm

I’m not a climate scientist, but I can read, and I’d like to comment on a couple of things in the lyrics.
“We’re scientists, what we speak is true…” That would be Argument By Authority.
“Unlike Andrew Bolt our work is peer reviewed…” That would be By Each Other.
“Raisin sea levels twice by twice…” Just exactly where are your statistics that anything is out of the ordinary?
“Coz climate change means greater extremes…” Again, just exactly where?
Feedback on crack, permafrosts melting, methane release, burning letters, gravity is just a theory too, ad bloody nauseum. Made me nauseous, anyway.
God help Australian (pseudo)science, if this motley crew of brainwashed grant seekers is our future.

Marlene Anderson
May 11, 2011 12:47 pm

Cringe-worthy. I’m embarrassed for them.
Some day these people will have this unworthy effort trotted out at a retirement roast and they’ll be appalled.

May 11, 2011 12:47 pm

It is pathetic. Scientists should be able to accept failure and move on. Nothing wrong with going back to the drawing board.
When you read stuff like that you got to admire Dr. Hathaway’s approach:
“my method works but don know why. Sorry, well it doesn’t. I shall try again, and again and maybe again…”

May 11, 2011 12:52 pm

My God. I wish I could poke my ears out.

May 11, 2011 12:54 pm

Climate Science thinks its primary problem is communication.
This is an attempt to communicate to people that climate scientists clearly have no idea how to communicate to.
The thing they consistently fail to realize is that the most effective form of communication a scientist can use is a scientific one. Lay all of the facts out in plain site and go into so much detail that everyone falls asleep and your point will be perfectly communicated.
A scientist attempting to communicate in any other fashion is at best suspicious and ineffective.

reason, a.k.a Tha Notorious C.F.L.
May 11, 2011 12:54 pm

Mah buddy Big Al Gore is soundin’ the alarm.
Those stupid warming deniers doin’ all sorts of harm!
I saw a PowerPoint chart with a whole lotta red,
So I emptied my wallet, and got Carbon Cred.
My sounds are solid, and my science is sound.
If we don’t do nothin’, polar bears get drowned!
So my homies roll phat, with the Dubs on their Prius,
But in the long-run? Naw, I don’t got no idea-uhs.

May 11, 2011 12:56 pm

God! I watched about half of it. What are these ‘people’ on? If this is ‘a Cimate Science Message’ it is the best advertisement for scepticism yet.

May 11, 2011 12:57 pm

” Global Warming is just a theory.”
“So is Gravity… (snip) ”
If they don’t know the difference between a Theory and a Law in science, they are no scientists.

May 11, 2011 12:58 pm

I agree with the final comments in the video. They are climate f-ing scientists, and they are f-ing the climate. But that doesn’t mean they are doing “real” science. A real scientist would not use everything BUT the scientific method to gain popular acceptance and try to get the world to “believe” in their Gaia cult.

May 11, 2011 1:04 pm

Well my friends, I had to stop when the girls started to wail.
My first impression was, of course, why are they all wearing sun-glasses, or ‘shades’.
The message must be… it’s getting warmer, and therefore brighter – good old Sun.
I was born well before the first ‘climate change’ prediction – that of much colder weather to come after the 70’s. It never happened, except for a few unfortunate folk, off and on.
It seems to me to be repeating everything that I have seen and heard, in that there will be climatic variation, which is fairly obvious, but one thing is troubling me… from where does that change, so-called AGW derive?

May 11, 2011 1:04 pm

I was kinda disappointed that none of them were called “Dr. Huxtable” :p

May 11, 2011 1:06 pm

File under: Trying way too hard to impress kids
I made it a minute and I listen to Eminem. Kids might make it to .25 before moving on with a snort of derision. Antiviral video at its worst.
One thing I wonder; were the (substantial) production costs paid for out of grant money? These things are not cheap.

May 11, 2011 1:09 pm

WOW! I was doubting AGW a bit, but now I mysteriously find myself buying it…

May 11, 2011 1:10 pm

You know what? This masterfully created video has finally convinced me that global warming is real and it’s out fault and it’s worse than we thought! YO.

CRS, Dr.P.H.
May 11, 2011 1:14 pm

Nearly as impressive as the “Warm Beer Chart” PR effort at Real Climate:
What’s next? Hostages?

May 11, 2011 1:16 pm

I wondered how they were going to redefine the message……
..too bad rap is like so yesterday

Tom in Florida
May 11, 2011 1:17 pm

Perhaps Vuk & Tallbloke should make a similar video for Dr S to review.

May 11, 2011 1:26 pm

I’m not a climate scientist either. Unfortunately, I have to work for a living.

James Sexton
May 11, 2011 1:28 pm

lol, Yes, make a poorly crafted video, add barely cohesive expressions, sprinkle vulgarity, and appeal to your own authority in an attempt to buttress their credibility.
Yes, that should work.

May 11, 2011 1:30 pm

“Feedback is like climate change on crack “.
I notice that they omit numbers, much like the MSM, so maybe we can call their AGW summary “a fine piece of journalism”.

May 11, 2011 1:39 pm

Tom in Florida says:
May 11, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Perhaps Vuk & Tallbloke should make a similar video for Dr S to review.
Vuk and Talbloke are not professional climate or solar scientists, as the people who did the video, they do their ‘pseudoscience’ for kiks. It is lot of fun, but don’t discard all other amateurs, very often they come with small nuggets that help science move forward. Neither Vuk or Tallbloke take a cent from taxpayer for their efforts, however often and much ridiculed by esteemed doc S.
As for Vuk, he is an ex electronic engineer, currently enjoying fruits of years of hard work, and ‘pseudoscience’ is one of the hobbies, and isn’t concerned an iota if someone likes it or not.

Pull My Finger
May 11, 2011 1:39 pm

Crack is so 80s.

“Feedback is like climate change on crack “.

Paul L
May 11, 2011 1:40 pm

‘The lie that goes unchallenged becomes lunacy’
Guy Debord
How prophetic.

May 11, 2011 1:46 pm

Post-normal science.

May 11, 2011 1:47 pm

Whom the gods want to destroy, they first make mad.

Green Sand
May 11, 2011 1:53 pm

Hey, is it this year’s Australian entry in the Eurovision Song Contest? Crap enough to win it.

May 11, 2011 1:54 pm

The League of Women Voters has decided to go over the edge a bit too: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/29/new-attack-ads-aimed-at-brown-mccaskill/ Some apolitical organization they have become.

Cassandra King
May 11, 2011 1:54 pm

Loved the ‘Hayek Vs Keynes video, far better than the ‘climate science’ effort ripoff.
You have a slow flat tyre, what do you do?
The keynes method is to ignore the puncture and inflate the tyre and keep inflating it.
The Hayek method is to deflate the tyre, take the wheel off and fix the puncture and only then inflate the tyre again, more difficult and takes longer but in the long term it is the only way to fix the problem.
Meanwhile back at the ranch. Those young ‘climate scientists’ have careers and grants and tenure to think about, homes and mortgages and bills and all that comes with choosing a career, no climate Armageddon no jobs no career no tenure no car no holidays no jet ski. A sudden massive inflation in ‘climate science’ careers in recent years and the simple fact that turkeys do not vote for thanksgiving. A great many people have a great deal invested in perpetuating the man made climate Armageddon, too much to lose.
Lets suppose that the CAGW theory came crashing down tomorrow, new information comes to light that finally puts the CAGW theory six feet under, dead and buried. Just what would happen to the tens of thousands of people employed in ‘climate science’? Grant cash drying up, departments closing and staff laid off, like an army after a big war, it would be downsize city Arizona for lots and lots of young ‘climate scientists’ with worthless qualifications nobody requires anymore. The people in that video know it, they know it all too well. Their careers on the line and what else is out there for them? The lucky few might try teaching or some other line but for most it will be back into the employment line.
The boom and the bust, for a whole generation of ‘climate scientists’ who jumped aboard the gravy train when it seemed the planet was in mortal danger and they were the last best hope yadda yadda yadda, bright eyed and looking at regular wages doing what they thought was a valuable job. Like the Tommies who went over the top at the Somme, they were cheered and celebrated at the time and forgotten and left to rot straight after. Todays heroes, tomorrows cast offs.
A great many people have too much to lose, they have too much invested in CAGW and only when they start appearing in the employment lines looking for the jobs that the CAGW fraud has destroyed by the millions will they have some kind of proper perspective forced upon them. While the gravy train is running they will be OK, when not if but when the train they are clinging on to hits the buffers then a lot of those very same people on that video will be forced to look upon the reality their CAGW fraud has inflicted on the millions who will be standing in those same employment lines, an icy cold shower of cold hard reality coming their way. Unemployment is an absolute and utter bitch, you dont know what a bitch until you yourself happens to be in that line. The young people in that video are part of the cause for the unemployment we are seeing, they laugh and giggle now because they are young and they have jobs but one day, one cold winter day will come when they stand in that line and feel what millions of others have felt then their enthusiasm will wilt and die very quickly indeed.

Mark Thomas
May 11, 2011 2:01 pm

Poor lambs. Isn’t it sad? They really believe.
Hook line & sinker.

May 11, 2011 2:03 pm

I take this very seriously. I live in the real world. I work with the young generation for whom their life is totally absorbed in their phone apps, videos and rapping where quick impressions can accepted as fact. This video can have far reaching impact on youtube and beyond. We need young, talented people on our side of the debate. The science has to be sold like a brand, I fear. I don’t like it and I try desparately to make true scientific investigation more important than sales, but I am a media person and know the world inwhich we live. Am I disgusted by it? You bet. But, you ignore at your own peril.

Rob Potter
May 11, 2011 2:04 pm

Ray says:
May 11, 2011 at 12:57 pm
” Global Warming is just a theory.”
“So is Gravity… (snip) ”
“If they don’t know the difference between a Theory and a Law in science, they are no scientists.”
Yeah, I got a bit worried at that as well – these “climate scientists” obviously don’t have any background in physics at least…..

May 11, 2011 2:10 pm

Guys, I thought it was like really cool, like and hip, like and trendy, init, like, y’no coz they knew stuff, like and they had white coats, init and dey wuz getting jiggy wit it. Mint!
But hey, what would I know – I’m the wrong side of 55
/sarc (if required)

May 11, 2011 2:11 pm

John Coleman says:
May 11, 2011 at 2:03 pm
“I take this very seriously. I live in the real world. I work with the young generation for whom their life is totally absorbed in their phone apps, videos and rapping where quick impressions can accepted as fact. This video can have far reaching impact on youtube and beyond.”
John, this rap will not impress anyone. There’s a rap for everything; there are quite a few funny Star Wars raps, for instance. There has been that infamous Gadafi techno piece by that Israeli DJ… “Shebr shebr, bait bait…” That’s the stuff that goes viral.
The climate youngsters face some stiff competition.

Hans Erren
May 11, 2011 2:13 pm

My bet for the winner of the Eurovision song contest:

Fred from Canuckistan
May 11, 2011 2:14 pm

Well that’s pretty pathetic.
The next generation of young rent seekers doing their very best to keep the Gravy Train on the tracks long enough for them to get their plush seat & sinecure.
So many careers that will end up in the greenie gutter.
They should start re-training for a worthwhile job.
“Would you like fries with that order”

May 11, 2011 2:18 pm

@reason, a.k.a Tha Notorious C.F.L. says:
May 11, 2011 at 12:54 pm
Awww… dangit! Ya made me laugh!
Good one; better’n theirs.

D. King
May 11, 2011 2:29 pm

Well, I think we should counter… with this!

Douglas DC
May 11, 2011 2:35 pm

“Never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake.”
-Napoleon Bonaparte…

May 11, 2011 2:37 pm

The statement “climate change is real” really has no meaning at all. Climate always changes. The question is if we have seen any extraordinary change in climate that is beyond natural changes we have seen in the past.
Wake me up when the Alps warm up to where they were during the Roman Warm Period.

May 11, 2011 2:38 pm

I think this work is being misunderstood. Who says a climate science study must be a formal paper? It is in fact a submission by climate scientists for peer review by other climate scientists.

Stephen Brown
May 11, 2011 2:39 pm

How gob-smackingly, piddle-poor is that rap cr*p?
What on earth do they hope to be able to achieve by releasing such utter garbage?
*mind boggles*

May 11, 2011 2:40 pm

Oh, and one very telling thing in that rap. Look at the “feedbacks” they mention. Methane, permafrost, burning biomass.
The feedback that they didn’t mention – yet the only positive feedback that is necessary for the IPCC catastrophe claims – is water vapor feedback.
They know, deep in their rotten hearts, that mentioning water vapor feedback will not buy them any converts; as most lay persons do not consider water a dangerous greenhouse gas or H2O dangerous climate changing pollution.
The hypothetical water vapor feedback is their achilles heel; the feedback whose name must not be mentioned.

Bryan A
May 11, 2011 2:40 pm

It is most unfortunate that such seemingly educated professional people feel the need to resort to profanity and (c)RAP music to attempt to make a point about this or any subject. Insofar as I am concerned, with the state of todays educational system and what our children are learning, these 6 PHd’s and the other students involved should be removed from their positions at the universities for not being able to argue their side of this debate without resorting to gutter language.
Are they truely educated???, or do Aussie Universities hand out credentials so easily???

reason, a.k.a Tone Def
May 11, 2011 2:45 pm

HR – glad you liked!
Throw your CO2 in the air.
Wave it like ya’ just don’t care.
Err’body say: “WUWT! WUWT!”

Alan D McIntire
May 11, 2011 2:47 pm

In reply to Ray and to Rob Potter.
In these examples, theory is being used with two distinct meanings:
a: an unproven assumption
b: a body of theorems presenting a consise, systematic view of a subject.
Meaning b is used when referring to the theory of universal gravitation, the theory of evolution, or the theory of relativity- Those sciences are well established. When someone objects that gravitation, evolution, and relativity are just THEORIES, they’re inorrectly using the word theory with the “a” meaining.
The “a” meaning would correctly refer to the theory of CAGW, which has NO systematic body of well established theorems- would AGW produce more or fewer hurricanes, drier or snowier winters, more or less precipitation, more or less wind?
CAGW predictions in such cases appear to be ephemeral, agreeing with current observations

Rob R
May 11, 2011 2:52 pm

That performance is truely trashy. Couldn’t get to the end of it. What are they thinking these days.

May 11, 2011 2:53 pm

A bit on the trashy side. If it is genuine, shame on the ‘scientists’. If it is not, shame on some others. In either case, shameful. What were they thinking?

May 11, 2011 2:56 pm

Having seen other things that hungry beast do (I’m an aussie), it is obvious that they are pro AGW. In another piece they referred to both skeptics and deniers in the space of 2 minutes. The only logical conclusion it that this is also supposed to be pro AGW, although how I am not sure. Without that background knowledge I would have thought that it was a stab at climate scientists and a parody of some sort.
I suppose they are trying to get across that people in the media who usually talk about climate science are not climate scientists. They think that somehow if only climate scientists were on they news we would all believe them.

May 11, 2011 2:56 pm

Thanks for letting us know what’s happening Anthony, even if it’s crappy “climate scientists” singing crappy rap…
Here’s something else that may really be possible in the future, found just under that rap video… It would be one huge fusion machine !! I found it interesting.

Glen of Aus
May 11, 2011 3:00 pm

As an Aussie, and a loud and proud Denier, seeing my hard earned Tax being pissed against a wall makes me angry. But currently we have a Labor government (socialists – progressives – marxists) so this is par for the course. What really upsets me is that the 18-30 year olds who voted them in are the ones that will end up paying the massive $150Billion Debt that they have created in just 3 years, and they want to slug us with a Carbon Tax because of “dangerous Climate Change”. Oh the Humanity!

May 11, 2011 3:05 pm

Pretty sad. One wonders how you can synergize so much crap int a piece of crap that is greater than the sum of its crappy parts.
There is a grant waiting to be handed out to study the decline of rap music in relation to global warming.
RE: Hayek vs. Keynes: False dichotomy; both methodologies fail in the end. Economies are not car tires either.

May 11, 2011 3:06 pm

Physics Scientists = People who think
Geology Scientists = People who think and do
Climate Scientists = People who do neither

May 11, 2011 3:11 pm

I must apologise for my fellow Australians involved in this piece of ‘science’. Overseas readers should appreciate that some Australians have an addiction to copying what is trendy overseas – or was trendy a few years ago.

It's always Marcia, Marcia
May 11, 2011 3:14 pm

This is actually comedic that they think this will work. It is obviously aimed at High School age teens and not adults. How much lower will they sink to try to make people believe them?

matthew Lague
May 11, 2011 3:14 pm

Notice how young they were? Not just that you would need to be immature to do it in the first place but these people hanen’t been on the ship too long and the ship is in trouble – so is the career

It's always Marcia, Marcia
May 11, 2011 3:18 pm

Global warming and vulgarity both in the lyrics, perfect for an appearance at the White House Poetry conference, alongside the rapper invited to it that sings about killing policemen.

May 11, 2011 3:19 pm

“In an odd way this is cheering news !”
Surely this video was made by sceptics to make “climate scientists” look bad?

May 11, 2011 3:23 pm

Hmm. They’re so cool, when they say ‘Yo’ it sounds like it will be followed by ‘ho-ho.’

May 11, 2011 3:28 pm

If the rap video is too hip or crude for you, here is a pretty staid and conservative perspective with similar conclusions:

May 11, 2011 3:29 pm

2kevin says:
“RE: Hayek vs. Keynes: False dichotomy; both methodologies fail in the end. Economies are not car tires either.”
Hayek won his Nobel Prize [when that actually meant something] for explaining the inteaction between social policies and the economy. Not really so different from JM Keynes. The problem is that their remedies are disregarded by policy makers.

Jay Curtis
May 11, 2011 3:30 pm

Ugh! What a shame. It just proves what we already knew about AGW “scientists.”

John M
May 11, 2011 3:32 pm

Anthony, I know you don’t control the ads, but google chose to have a rather saucey ad for “filipino cupid” when I opened up this thread.
Either they picked up on the subject matter (the word “profanities”?)… or maybe there’s something in my cookies…? ][Blush]

May 11, 2011 3:34 pm

Hmm dubious isn’t the word. Did they get such drivel peer reviewed by everyone in the office? Seemed like a good idea at the time, like blowing up school kids…
I had the pleasure of walking past their ‘bunker’ at UNSW a few months back whilst attending a Kumon presentation ceremony in which my two boys got achievement awards. Now Kumon is the real deal, what some of the children were able to do was truly breath taking.

D Bonson
May 11, 2011 3:36 pm

Was that (c)rap video peer reviewed? 😉
You may have noticed the “climate researchers” from that video were from organisations that promote global warming alarmism and should be considered as deniers of natural climate influences.
And that was shown on the Hungry Beast show via Australia’s ABC, a global warming propaganda network.

John in NZ
May 11, 2011 3:38 pm

This is my Global Warming Video

May 11, 2011 3:46 pm

This is desperate, desperate stuff! In years to come our children will feel great embarrasement at this current generation. How could sensible people have let this scam thrive for so long.
*Money invested in carbon schemes (Lord Oxburgh & Al Gore)
*Climate science funding and prestige (Phil Jones, Michael Mann)
*Politicians’ desire for more control and taxes (EU, USA, Australia)
*Self-delusion (George Monbiot)
*Hysteria (10:10 video, Guardian)
*To admit you are wrong will damage your credibility (Dr. James Hansen – NASA)

May 11, 2011 3:47 pm

George Orwell had the year wrong, and everything else correct. Lord help us all. Brainwashing at the lowest level.

May 11, 2011 3:57 pm

David, UK says: “50 seconds was all I could manage. ”
I’d been watching “Cloverfield” before the video, so my anti-gorge-rise muscles were fully warmed up. Didn’t want to press my luck, though, so I stopped at 58 seconds. Keyboards don’t like hydrochloric acid. Congratulations to dwright if he made it the full minute, 60.0.

May 11, 2011 3:58 pm

D. King says: “Well, I think we should counter… with this!” (the Trolololo Man)
Hey, hey, hey, careful there! That was genuine slap-your-thighs, hold-your-ribs and gasp-for-breath kind of entertainment back in the day for a lot of us behind the Iron Curtain. When you blew a year’s salary and waited twice as long for that brand-new COLOR Zenit tv the size of a Prius, and you had only two channels to choose from, with maybe three hours of programming per day to be interrupted with power outages and brown-outs, you got to appreciate this stuff. Plenty of vodka or slivovits helped a bit too.

May 11, 2011 3:59 pm

Another own goal, with lyrics from a toilet wall.

May 11, 2011 4:01 pm

So, a video produced on my Aussie tax dollar (by our national broadcaster, no less), broadcast nationally last night and featuring ‘climate scientists’ who, I’ll wager, are employed in their day jobs on my Aussie tax dollar as well!
I don’t so much mind the “message” – because it is nigh on incomprehensible in any event – what I really object to is that it’s just not entertaining on any level.

May 11, 2011 4:01 pm

Well, that was sure convincing. It’s aimed at the same crowd that the “vote-mob” clowns try to appeal to. Bouncing around like enthusiastic juvenile nitwits presented, at best, a convincing argument for raising the voting age.

May 11, 2011 4:03 pm

Koch Industries finally gets its act together. Welcome to the reservation! Thank God for coal and oil. Where would we be today withouth them?
[I once posed this question to a Guardian reader by pointing out that his birth in hospital was powered by the nasty fuels he hates. One can only smile as such hypocracy].

Ross Brisbane
May 11, 2011 4:07 pm

[Snip. No derogatory use of the D-word allowed. ~dbs, mod.]

May 11, 2011 4:09 pm

Quite silly indeed, except the part where they ‘dissed’ shock jock alan jones…i can live with that part.

May 11, 2011 4:09 pm

Glen of Aus – Progressivism is like a progressive disease. Its gets worse as it progresses!
The interesting thing about these ‘academics’ is that the more they fight for their belief/religion in AGW the more they support the Marxist/Socialist/Progressive agenda and the closer they get to having the freedom of expression/speech rights which enable them to make such a video, taken away from them. Imbeciles really!

Michael of FNQ Australia
May 11, 2011 4:09 pm

Can’t believe that is what our Tax Payer funded TV propaganda machine is producing.
It you weren’t told it was real… you would actually think it was created by the “Deniers/Realists” as a satire against “Climate Scientists” but the sad part is, they did it to themselves.
Much like the 10:10 video, the whole “do it cause I say” is just so insulting that I think people are starting to wake up.
If the “Deniers/Realists” can produce figures and ask for debate, why can’t the “Climate Scientists” rise and produce their data, debate their results…. because sadly they have none.
I think alot of Deniers/Reslists were Luke Warmists early 2000, as the data was supporting a theory (however it was only a snapshot) so now over the last 10 years we have seen the rest of the data and have made the conclusion that it was indeed cyclic and “Move on nothing to see here”. However those who have made a career/industry off this “theory” are trying their hardest to keep it going.
The biggest laugh was when American (and sadly Australian) government keep talking about Climate Changes = Jobs….. errr…. that wasn’t the point…. Climate Change was meant to mean disaster (loss of cities, deaths by increases extreme weather, droughts etc), now it seems the only “spin” they can put on it is “increasing” the jobs and economy. There is another way to do that right…. run the country with a lightweight governing body, not run it as a controlling socialist motherland.
*sigh* had my spat, just to add to the millions of others disappointed with where the “new world order” is going

May 11, 2011 4:11 pm

Mmmm… they can’t even spell the name of one of their “climate scientists”. This one:
Be wary of taking this at face value.

Eric Anderson
May 11, 2011 4:16 pm

Ummm . . . comparing climate science to gravity . . . Right.
Anytime you find someone trying to compare the certainty of their pet theory to gravity, you know they are trying to hitch a ride on the coat tails of real science.
To be sure, we don’t know everything about gravity, but we do know enough to calculate its effects out to many decimals, and millions of events all around us every single day confirm its validity. To compare climate science (which has no definitive calculable constant and which has yet to make any meaningful prediction) to gravity is just ludicrous.

James of the West aka The International Fool
May 11, 2011 4:17 pm

Hungry Beast is written by a group of comedians and misguided youth who often put the joke back onto those participating. The lead producer is comedian Andrew Denton. I would describe it as being in a similar vein to Colbert Report. Dont take it too seriously. In this case the left wing bias of ABC shines brightly.

May 11, 2011 4:26 pm

Fred from Canuckistan
That occurred to me too. There’s far too much tax money being spent on “higher education” which seems to be neither of those things.

Richard Day
May 11, 2011 4:39 pm

One word: cringeworthy.

Rob Dawg
May 11, 2011 4:39 pm

Which institutions offer a degree path to “Climate F***ing Scientist?”

little polyp
May 11, 2011 4:51 pm

I’m not surprised that some of this came out of the UNSW lysenko school of climate (no feedback) science.

chris b
May 11, 2011 5:06 pm

Ross Brisbane says:
May 11, 2011 at 4:07 pm
You forgot the /sarc.

May 11, 2011 5:07 pm

Bad propagande. This minable (trivial) and therefore really bad rap can’t sale bad science anyway. That shit (sorry) is ridiculous in square! Realy. Pore AGW…

May 11, 2011 5:12 pm

Ok, here’s my contribution:
Yo, yo, yo!
Lysenko too was a scientist,
Today he’d be a climatologist.
Dude was peer reviewed by Comrade Stalin,
His science got settled in the Kremlin,
There were lots of speeches and plenty of graphs,
But now all that sh*t’s just good for laughs!

May 11, 2011 5:18 pm

Where are the Minnesotans for Global Warming when you need em, eh?

May 11, 2011 5:24 pm

One has to wonder how some of them obtained their degrees. Going by the names and qualifications I note some are not scientists and some come from second rate institutions. People have been known to buy degrees. An Australian Judge (Einfeld), who was jailed for perjury over a traffic infringement (claimed a deceased person was driving), bought a PhD in USA for $10,000. I heard an Australian government minister say that her party’s aim was to get every young person through to tertiary education. Lowering the standard is the only way that can be achieved. All ready there are university students that can not write a decent report and have atrocious spelling. Next it will be claimed that a person is literate if they can put an “X” somewhere on a form.
I may be old fashioned but when I went to university only 3% of the population qualified to enter university, only 1.5% completed a degree and a PhD was rare and highly respected.

John Q Public
May 11, 2011 5:34 pm

Question: what’s the difference between a climate scientist and a gangsta?
According to Australia, nothing.

D. King
May 11, 2011 5:39 pm

Peter Kovachev says:
May 11, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Hey, hey, hey, careful there! That was genuine slap-your-thighs, hold-your-ribs and gasp-for-breath kind of entertainment back in the day for a lot of us behind the Iron Curtain.
Sorry Pete, but it looks as though many want to take us back there.
That would take a lot of vodka.

Mac the Knife
May 11, 2011 5:58 pm

Ross Brisbane says:
May 11, 2011 at 4:07 pm
“Great Rap Video. You deniers and your “corporations” of greed in your great USA….”
Whew! Talk about spew?! You really need to loosen up the tin foil hat, fella!
I’d rather be an honest scientist
and a fake science deniya
than a no degree fool
of a climate change liya….

May 11, 2011 6:06 pm

D. King,
What’s even funnier than the Trololo dude is that with all those power outages (caused by capitalist saboteurs, of course) it was hard to cook a meal on the nifty new electric elements so, out came the old coal-burning stoves with flues sticking out of apartment windows. Coal was in short supply (the capitalists, again), but there was plenty of trash, tons of printed propaganda, all those free textbooks, loafs of subsidized bread, park benches, the neighbour’s fence, etc. The savings from cutting down on electricity went up in smoke as we burned half the darn country to fry our eggs.

May 11, 2011 6:06 pm

This is part of the long sought improvement in communication?

Bill Illis
May 11, 2011 6:15 pm

I think it would be more convincing if the cheerleaders were wearing less clothes like in a real rap video and in a CO2-apocalypse warming world.
Climate f… scientists should know that.

Elizabeth (not the Queen)
May 11, 2011 6:37 pm

If I was a reputable climate scientist I would be appalled by wearing the label of “believer.” The “denier” versus “believer” language, plus imagery of the priest wearing a huge white cross and standing in a church and lyrics, “a climate scientist! Yo! PREACH!” paint them as evangelical zealots. The expletives and reference to fellatio highlight their level of professional and academic excellence.

May 11, 2011 6:43 pm

They use lots of logical fallacies, take one for example:
“The Green house effect is just a theory sucker (Alan Jones)
Yeah so is gravity float away muther f**cker”
Well gravity has actual evidence and experiments that can be tested. There is NO valid comparison between gravity and the CO2 Climate Doomsday claims. Gravity can easily be tested, while the Catastrophic AGW hypothesis can’t be. Thus the logical fallacy in attempting to compare them and getting people to “believe” that CAGW is real just because gravity is real. It’s an anti-scientific argument that violates the principles of science and that attempts to do away with the requirements of climate scientists from following the scientific method. Clearly the video shows that these people who made it do NOT comprehend the scientific method and the right, no the necessity, of their pet hypothesis to be challenged by those who wish to do so. The lyrics of their video rap song clearly show them attempting to be exempt from the requirements of the scientific method. Major FAIL on their part, they wouldn’t pass a grade ten high school science class on the philosophy of science and the scientific method as a result.
Please provide experiments that can confirm the alleged GHG hypothesis? What? Silence… I’ve asked a Professor Emeritus of Physics at a major US university for any experiments that could be done to confirm this and all I got was: silence. No evidence provided… just assertions. Look even if it’s is real asserting it isn’t enough in science, you must actually PROVE it with experiments that can be independently verified. I still am waiting for any experiments that can be done to validate the GHG hypothesis and quantify it’s effects in the real atmosphere.
‎”Nullis in verba. Take no one’s word for it.” – Motto of the Royal Society
Science is empirical. Knowing the answer means nothing. Testing your knowledge means everything./b>” – Lawrence Krauss
I challenge every alleged climate scientist in the above video to take the Climate Science Challenge and prove to me that your CO2 Climate Doomsday Claims are valid and not just the fearful prognostications of your CO2 doomsday cult making use of digital entrails and simulated crystal balls peering into impossible to happen modeled futures.
Prove that you’re not just modern day Nostradamuses:
I challenge everyone who believes the world is in danger from “climate change” to take The Pro AGW Hypothesis Challenge: Present a clearly written statement of your alleged alarmist AGW hypotheses along with all the alleged scientific claims made and any hard evidence that supports those claims, provide all data to support your claims (all raw data and all manipulated data including the reasons for the manipulations), plus mention all means to verify preferably by experiment the claims, and all means by which they would be refuted. Show your work or the work of others in full detail.

Brian H
May 11, 2011 6:47 pm

Simply debased. Talk about racing (all alone, with no competition) to the bottom.

May 11, 2011 6:59 pm

This thing is just another internal memo within Warmism Co. to get rid of real thinkers from their insular little non-profit corporate cult that was established by tobacco farmer Al Gore. It’s high production value is sure indication that b-list PR firms and hip video production “consultants” were consulted. That real scientists were willing to do this is sure indication of a climate science bubble bursting. This is their shark jump. Cool!

May 11, 2011 7:08 pm

As an Aussie and a poor taxpayer who helps fund this zealots, I do apologise. But you need to understand that the ABC has done all it can to make the BBC look balanced when it comes to this topic.

Paul R
May 11, 2011 7:31 pm

The good thing is that they really jumped the shark with that piece of crap and no one will ever do it again.

Patrick Davis
May 11, 2011 8:19 pm

I think they found their “qualifications” at the bottom of a weatbix packet. More open mouth, change foot type thing going on there.

Al Gored
May 11, 2011 8:51 pm

If these people are actually working as ‘scientists,’ more evidence that ANYBODY can get a degree in some fields these days if they just go with the flow. Seriously pathetic.

May 11, 2011 8:58 pm

Climate Rap or C-rap for short.
Sadly a reflection of the rapid deterioration of Australian education.

Patrick Davis
May 11, 2011 8:59 pm

Because the scientists are diversifying and getting into the rap music industry?
“THE Greens have quietly shelved their long-held greenhouse gas cuts target of up to 40 per cent by 2020, meaning no party in Parliament is actively pushing for emissions cuts at levels recommended by climate-change scientists.”
Or could it be Canberra, Australia’s capital city and home to the Federal Govn’t, recently suffered through it’s coldest night in 74 years?

Anthony Scalzi
May 11, 2011 9:24 pm

That’s hysterical-in both meanings of the word.

Amino Acids in Meteorites
May 11, 2011 9:48 pm

If they had only rapped about killing cops they could have made it to the White House.

Chris Smith
May 11, 2011 9:55 pm

The only thing anyone can possibly say about this is: OMG, WTF?

May 11, 2011 10:37 pm

AJStrata says:
May 11, 2011 at 8:04 am
…. My opinion has been our climate is driven by plate tectonics more than anything else, at least in the Pacific basin.
I think you are dead right. Too much energy transfer in too little time is involved to be coming from the outside.
This must be from within the earth system.

May 11, 2011 11:16 pm

Firstly, I am assuming these are real students/scientists? In which case, I dispair at their lack of actual ‘real’ world knowledge. Any of us who were students will no doubt remember that we were somewhat opinionated and believed we were ‘right’, especially in the early years of a career ?
Hence, whilst I am not one to wish that student activity remains as a blight on someones record – I feel quite strongly that such a production should be carefully preserved for posterity – it may serve as a suitable lesson for others in the future. Even moreso, if as expected, the whole AGW issue is proven to be the sham we all expect! Perhaps in another 5 or 10 years time, we can expect an apologetic rap from these same folks?
perhaps along the lines of…..
Hey now world, Why don’t ya listen up!
We’ve now drunk from the knowledge cup
As students – remember, we made a rap
But now it’s proved it was all crap.
Glo-bal warming, we know its bull
but we sucked it up ’til we were full
too much theory, and not enough practical
now-a-days, we’ve become all skeptical

May 11, 2011 11:16 pm

Extremely substandard “art” used to explain extremely substandard “science.”
Looks like a marriage made in Heaven [um…rather…in Hades] to me.
They think they are being so cutting edge, when in reality, it is one of the stupidest videos I have ever laid eyes on.
Produced well….but the content is embarrassingly bad.
Let them continue to talk out of their arses like this, I say.
The more they do it, the more idiotic they become.
Norfolk, VA, USA

May 11, 2011 11:28 pm

“Rap music” is an oxymoron.

May 11, 2011 11:36 pm

They may very well have shot themselves in the foot. As the original article points out, at least some of them can be verified as genuine academics.
Terribly juvenile. They make Trenberth look like The Wisdom Of Solomon.

patrick of canberra
May 11, 2011 11:37 pm

the program ‘hungry beast’ is a tax-payer funded mouthpiece for Student leftwing nutters. Crazy!!!

May 11, 2011 11:40 pm

one word there all wankers

UK Sceptic
May 12, 2011 1:05 am

They declare themselves to be climate f*cking scientists. Climate being a euphemism for stoopid…

Ross Brisbane
May 12, 2011 1:08 am

[Snip. No derogatory use of the D-word allowed. ~dbs, mod.]
I know I am a guest and you have certain rights to censor an individual.
But by the neck of a goose you guys are sure hypocritical when caught in the act by the words of defamatory talk here.
You would NEVER EVER get away with this in Australia or Canada or Britain for that matter. Bring it on and let the real scientists settle the score by dragging all of them to court – but sadly not in your country – land of free wanton speech and so much crock whilst the great warming continues.
Sadly our fellow Australian merchant of the media in your country does not play fair at all.
Continue your great fiddle and wiggle with the data.
I see an international court case a coming. Perhaps we will finally get justice for the rest of world.

May 12, 2011 1:11 am

Wow, it’s great that these folks have the time for this sort of thing.
How many of them, do you suppose, are working for the government, or are funded by government largesse? So for the expenditure of taxpayer dollars, instead of empirical evidence validating their theory (the sort of empirical evidence we get for the “theory of gravity” every time we stand up, sit down, or drop a pint glass), this is what they offer to support the moribund AGW thesis?
Okay, well, thanks for the clarification I guess.
Australians should enjoy this. Chances are they paid for it.

May 12, 2011 1:25 am

I just went to post a comment on how idiotic it is, but the page with the lyrics is gone…

May 12, 2011 1:42 am

Mike says:
May 11, 2011 at 3:28 pm
“If the rap video is too hip or crude for you, here is a pretty staid and conservative perspective with similar conclusions: http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_academies/acdscien/
The conclusions are not unexpected when you have advocate IPCC scientists such as Crutzen, Molina, (advisor to WWF Mexico), and Ramanathan on the panel. The panel haven’t done any research, they are simply repeating the IPCC gospel.

John Marshall
May 12, 2011 2:12 am

If that is what they have to stoop to to get a grant then they should change the day job.

Brian H
May 12, 2011 2:12 am

morgo says:
May 11, 2011 at 11:40 pm
one word there all wankers

Pithily put.
But when you’re reposting it here and there, I suggest the grammatical “they’re all wankers” instead.

Sean OConnor
May 12, 2011 2:25 am

Come on, it wasn’t that bad! But maybe a riposte could be:
Where has all the warming gone?
Long time passing
Where has all the warming gone?
Long time ago
Where has all the warming gone?
Graphs have declined every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

George Lawson
May 12, 2011 2:28 am

How crass can these people get. I listened to it all the way through and couldn’t hear one word of the message they were trying to put across. Neither did they leave any of the copy and captions on the screen long enough for me to read any one of them. It seems to me that the video was produced by people who are just as incompetent as the AGW brigade themsleves. How sad. But I suppose the cost of commissioning such an utterly stupid video came from one or more of the many AGW grants that seem to be so readily available. Another failing of the Australian branch of the AGW cult.

May 12, 2011 2:30 am

When people have no rational basis for their beliefs, they resort to being offended.

Curious Canuck
May 12, 2011 2:38 am

Yikes! This is absurdly terrible, maybe worse than Climategate itself.

May 12, 2011 2:40 am

So they’re f***ing the climate are they? More like the climate is f***ing them!

Daniel H
May 12, 2011 3:04 am

They stole the cheerleader scene from the movie Bring It On. Naturally, they had to change the song lyrics to: “I said Burn! it’s HOT in here, 32% more carbon in the atmosphere.” In the original song from the film, the lyrics went: “I said Brrr! it’s COLD in here, there must be some Clovers in the atmosphere…” (Clovers being the school mascot of the fictional high school in the film). Go figure.

May 12, 2011 3:09 am

I’m diggin’ it, diggin’ it. Hurrah!
Only crazed climate communist hippies have the belief system in place to claim gravity as mere theory. What was in that smoke I wonder? Haha Wink wink nudge nudge say no more. O_0

May 12, 2011 3:12 am

Too many comments to read them all.
It is a pretty poor effort.
The Keynes/Hayek vids (thanks temp) were super though. As in all things to do with the dismal science they are, of course, both right and both wrong. They were a joy to watch.

May 12, 2011 3:23 am

The reaction of my generation to the global warming scare has been cringeworthy.

Alexander K
May 12, 2011 3:34 am

This reminded me of stage acts that were performed during the traditional annual Student Reviews that were staged before sell-out audiences in theatres all over New Zealand as part of the local university’s traditional Capping Week (graduation)activities or ‘rags’ when I was a teenager; said Reviews were mostly bad-taste parodies designed to shock the ‘blue-stockings’ in any city or town. Most of the population treated the students with great tolerance and affection, apart from a few of the more extremely and intolerantly respectable elders. Just students ‘taking the piss’ really, they will grow up – eventually.

May 12, 2011 3:53 am

Of course when I was in college, the stupid things I did were only known by me and a small group of friends. With the internet and youtube of today, incredibly stupid things like this are able to been seen by many others and never go away.

Keith G
May 12, 2011 4:27 am

C’mon. That was funny! Young people are all about irony today, they looked like they were having fun with it. If they thought it was cool and convincing people to believe the world is about to catch fire, then it’s funny in a pathetic way (i.e. laughing at them). But if they were just goofing and blowing off steam with good old fashioned irony, that was good (laughing with them).
Whatever professional disagreements there are, they have a point that they are actual scientists and went to school for a long time to study climate. The whole climate change/AGW/whatever it is today debate has been hijacked by non-scientists of all stripes. Politicians, media types, corporations trying to sell solutions, corporations trying to avoid having taxes raised, people who wish to convert others to their world view, etc. If the people who invested years of their precious life to studying climate in a formal capacity wish to point that out, they have earned that right. IMHO.
But of course I came down against the Consensus on the Richard Glover debate, one of the few who thought HE was being satirical.
And I also thought that Climategate was done by a professional intelligence service.
You know, the more I think about it, the more I’m convinced I post here because I don’t have enough real life friends.
Do any of you live in Japan….?
This posting makes me uncomfortable, but I’m putting it up anyway. Does it creep anyone else out?
Good bye now.

May 12, 2011 4:46 am

Ross Brisbane (May 12, 2011 at 1:08 am): “But by the neck of a goose you guys are sure hypocritical when caught in the act by the words of defamatory talk here. You would NEVER EVER get away with this in Australia or Canada or Britain for that matter. Bring it on and let the real scientists settle the score by dragging all of them to court – but sadly not in your country – land of free wanton speech and so much crock whilst the great warming continues…..I see an international court case a coming. Perhaps we will finally get justice for the rest of world.”
Gosh, Ross, you are one angry, frightened and desperate bloke, aren’t you. Lucky for us, you have as much influence on this issue as my neighhbour’s poodle, otherwise you’d be dangerous, instead of pathetically silly.
In any case, you have nicely summarized the Warmist strategy for us: When the corrup UN fails, when its chief scientists cook the books like two-bit hoods, when cheesey movies, ads and vids flop to the howls of derision; go after the enemy with restrictive speech legislation or “international” cangaroo courts.
Bring it on, I say too. Good reason to review our support for the dysfunctional UN, to repair our failing free speech rights, to engage in media warfare and to take a close and jaundiced-eye look at “international law” scam and its mounting abuses.

Frank K.
May 12, 2011 5:23 am

What? Climate “scientists” trying to be publicity hounds? Why that’s the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard! I mean, they’re in it for the money science…

May 12, 2011 5:26 am

Oh. Good. Lord.
Makes me want to never admit to being a scientist ever again.
Exactly what do these “climate scientists students” do that requires lab coats any how? Do their models leak acid? Do they tend to get tree rings on their clothes?

Bruce Cobb
May 12, 2011 5:33 am

severn says:
May 12, 2011 at 2:30 am
When people have no rational basis for their beliefs, they resort to being offended offensive. There, fixed it for ya.

Cold Englishman
May 12, 2011 5:45 am

Juvenile twits

May 12, 2011 7:19 am

Ross Brisbane says:
May 12, 2011 at 1:08 am
But by the neck of a goose you guys are sure hypocritical when caught in the act by the words of defamatory talk here.

There must be something lost in translation here. Are you suggesting that the posters at WUWT are just as “defamatory” as the rap video? The defaming that goes on here can be fairly juicy, I’ll admit, but most of it is directed at people who have been caught lying to the public while on the public dollar. What words of defaming are too harsh for public servants who steal from you while lying? Does holding the moral high ground mean issuing rulings on what is scientific truth from the ivory tower while calling those who question you “deniers” in reference to holocaust deniers?? Are those people who ask questions of the pampered and well-travelled monks on the government dole held to a higher standard than the monks themselves? Yes, I’m sure in the past I’ve posted some rather mean things here about various personalities in the climate “science” community, but when you make yourself a target by accepting public money and then failing in your charge, you deserve all the mud you get.

You would NEVER EVER get away with this in Australia or Canada or Britain for that matter. Bring it on and let the real scientists settle the score by dragging all of them to court – but sadly not in your country – land of free wanton speech and so much crock whilst the great warming continues.

You’re only reinforcing my own appreciation for my country. The base freedom of speech in this country, carried now into the internet on principle, is what is saving mankind from economic-self-destruction in a keynesian-end-game. Without that freedom, no one would question for so long why the emperor is naked.
Your post reeks of no-argument whining while down 10 points with 0:02 on the clock.

May 12, 2011 7:32 am

Keith G says: “The whole climate change/AGW/whatever it is today debate has been hijacked by non-scientists of all stripes….If the people who invested years of their precious life to studying climate in a formal capacity wish to point that out, they have earned that right. IMHO.” (May 12, 2011 at 4:27 am)
Hi , Keith, as virtual homes go, this isn’t a bad one and it’s pretty close to the real thing; loud, contentious and messy. I thought I saw a couple of chaps here posting from Japan, so you might stick around and maybe add you location at the bottom of every post. Good luck with that.
As to your contentions above, the climate issue wasn’t “high-jacked” by non-scientists; if you look at its history, you’ll see that the idea of CAGW grew and was promoted mainly by non-scientists, namely government bureacrats, enviro activists, the left, special commercial interests and, of course, the ever-rapatious UN. Billions in funding and lucrative research grants created the new field of climatology which began with pre-determined assumptions before the data was even properly looked at. That should worry anyone who claims to promote science.
This never was, and is not now, a battle between science and non-science, as some Warmists pretend. Rather, it’s a fight between an establishment which claims exclusive rights to a new discipline and others from related disciplines which, as is the scientific norm, engage in critiques. Climatology, though, has set itself up …with help of special interests…as an untouchable discipline, one above all others, and as a consequence of its perceived special status, feels free to routinely violate the ideals and norms of science. Unchallenged power invariably corrupts.
The music video you think of as somewhat cute, actually serves as an in-a-nutshell illustration of the bad science practiced by the Warmist camp; unproven claims, crude appeals to authority, foul bullying and cartoonish demonization of the opposition. There is nothing novel about it; tyranical regimes the world over have been churning out such “cute” propaganda aimed at youth for as long as there have been tyrannical regimes.
By and large, the skeptic community is not fighting science itself, but bad science, or pseudo-science. By now we should know that scientists and their institutions are not immune from errors, political pressure and corruption or, even, as history has shown so many times, criminal and horrifying acts of savagery. Remember eugenics, racial anthropology, Nazi medical researchers and Lysenkoism.
As you will witness in the months and years to come, the Warmist camp is feeling the heat not from global temperatures, but from its own rapidly declining ability to control the message and to command the huge resources it became quite accustomed to. It will apply cuteness or nastiness as the situation calls for. Unable to prove its case in a fair and open scientific forum, Warmism –like other messianic movements before it– defaults to fear-mongering, insults, endless repetitions, obscurantism, begging for intervention, special appeals, threats, and crude propagandizing. As such things usually work themselves out, there will be lot of noise and even some danger before the inevitable crash. Then, we’ll all move on, hopefully having learned some important lessons.

May 12, 2011 7:46 am

Do climate scientists really wear those sexy white lab coats?

May 12, 2011 7:56 am

Every good religion needs a hymn to sing. Besides every good thing I learned in this life of mine, has come from a song in my youth. If I may quote Guns N’ Roses, “Every rose has it’s thorn. Just like every night has it’s dawn. Just like every Carbon leaves a sad, black stain.”

May 12, 2011 8:46 am

The Australian blogger Professor Bunyip has a post on these fools that tells you a little more about a few of them, including a climegate email that says it all about how the climate crooks look out for each other..
“Insane Clown Posse”

Steve Fitzpatrick
May 12, 2011 9:09 am

I really wonder if these people imagine they are advancing their cause. IMO, they aren’t.

May 12, 2011 9:11 am

Johno says:
May 12, 2011 at 8:46 am


John Q. Galt
May 12, 2011 9:16 am


John Q. Galt
May 12, 2011 9:19 am

Let’s call them the Insane Cloud Posse.

D. King
May 12, 2011 10:17 am

Johno says:
May 12, 2011 at 8:46 am
“Insane Clown Posse”
Excellent link.
I agree with Jeremy…OUCH.
From the link:
“…And pity, too, about those pesky Climategate emails, because one particular sequence of correspondence provides a glimpse of the world in which another academic rapper, Victoria University’s Prof. Roger N. Jones (the little bald fellow below and at 1:05 in the video), does business.
Dear Mike,
….. I should perhaps explain my delicate position in all this. As a retired CSIRO person I have somewhat more independence than before, and perhaps a reduced sense of vested interest in CSIRO, but I am still closely in touch and supportive of what CAR is doing. Also, I have a son who is now a leading staff member of WWF in Australia and who is naturally well informed on climate change issues. Moreover, Michael Rae, who is their local climate change staffer, is a member of the CSIRO sector advisory committee (along with some industry people as well) and well known to me. So I anticipated questions from WWF Australia, and from the media later when the scenarios are released, regarding the scenarios. I did not want to be in the position of feeling the need to seriously question in public their presentation or interpretation. You have allayed my fears on that score, so that is great.”
Hello…oooo, we can see you!

May 12, 2011 10:24 am

Let’s not be too critical. After all, this song must have been peer reviewed before release, right?
I just wonder what the carbon footprint was to film the video. Lot’s of 100+ watt bulbs, burning globes, speaker racks. Looks like they are willing to do whatever it takes to get their precious hockey stick.

May 12, 2011 10:29 am

Send your kid to college nowadays, and have them graduate an uncivilized barbarian. The long march through the institutions is complete and and the brainwashing is in full swing. Look at the live f@cksaw demo at Northwestern. The universities need a huge housecleaning, or we can kiss western civilization goodbye.

Steve C
May 12, 2011 10:42 am

You have to chuckle at those kilowatts wasted on stage lighting ‘n’ stuff for the “show”. As with Al Gore and beachside mansions, the talk and the walk just don’t quite match.

May 12, 2011 11:05 am

So I’m a 23-year old edgy, gay, Gen Y guy, and I felt really embarrassed for them. Seriously, that was the lamest thing I’ve seen this year, and I’ve seen The Green Hornet. Like, seriously, “yo”? Who says that any more?
Oh, and what was with that tragic, old loser Prof. Roger N Jones doing? Like anybody wants to see some balding troll glaring ominously at them through the camera. Here’s a tip, Gen Y is about everything pretty, attractive, new and branded – this video hit none of those targets.
Who exactly did they model their rapping on, Will Smith and Vanilla Ice?

May 12, 2011 11:36 am

Keith G says:
May 12, 2011 at 4:27 am
“Whatever professional disagreements there are, they have a point that they are actual scientists and went to school for a long time to study climate. The whole climate change/AGW/whatever it is today debate has been hijacked by non-scientists of all stripes. ”
Okay, so i’m a non-scientist hijacker; and can the actual climate scientists now show their observational evidence for the tropospheric hotspot so we can finally settle the argument if they’re so darn sure they’re right.
Oh, they can’t? Sorry, didn’t want to cause any inconvenience…

May 12, 2011 12:26 pm

Perhaps most of them wore sunglasses so they could conceal their true identities…

May 12, 2011 12:42 pm

They claim to be climate scientists, but if they are, then they are mis-using the term scientist. They sure are ignorant about what science is. I would say that is a good showing from the Al Gore warmist camp – showing ignorance over intelligence.
I am not a climate scientist, but I am a scientist. And they are no scientists.

May 12, 2011 1:31 pm

Snowlover123 says:
May 12, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Perhaps most of them wore sunglasses so they could conceal their true identities…

Absolutely – speaks volumes for their confidence and commitment to the cause. As if they know already that someday soon this video will be a laughing stock.

May 12, 2011 3:16 pm

” Global Warming is just a theory.”
“So is Gravity… ”
Zero out of two: As several have already observed, Gravity is a law.
AGW is just a hypothesis.
So that’s an example of rap. It’ll never replace skiffle.

May 12, 2011 4:16 pm

It’s a bit rich to call these entertainers scientists; as far I can determine, many of them are not much more than over-credentialed data processors, with an inadequate grasp of statistics, collating such silly things as the average height of an entire, continually varying ocean within fractions of a millimetre. An equivalent would be of extracting sunshine from cucumbers at several removes: they could compile averages of the utility of datasets of the potential sunshine/cucubert-extraction units, and publish them in peer-reviewed journals.
I expect to hear any day that nutritionists, instead of trying to improve knowledge or nutrition, are gathering an index of the averages of digestive index units (DIU), in order to tell us whether the mean digestion within various segments of the population is declining as obesity rates increase. (I may say in passing, if I may make a jocatio, that my DIU has been stable for a long while.)
Still, it’s a measure of how wealthy and advanced the modern industrial countries are that, instead of making or inventing or developing things, we have so many young wits receiving copious funds for measuring intangibles and then boasting thereof.

May 12, 2011 4:25 pm

They might as well be rappers, they aren’t real scientists.

R. Shearer
May 12, 2011 4:34 pm

So they spent their time doing what in Copenhagen?

May 12, 2011 7:03 pm

A little better ‘gangsta’ video about ‘Bankstas’ – titled:
Damn It Feels Good to be Banker — A Wall Street Musical

Well done, I say, and not too far off topic I hope …

May 13, 2011 5:30 am

Showed this to my teenaged daughter, and after she stopped giggling, she recommended they add this performer to give them some heightened credibility—in the hilarity department:

May 13, 2011 7:42 am

This seems to be produced by my sons’ university—and just confirms our growing realisations about climate scientists.
Trouble is, in spite of all the challenges to the ‘settled science’—the CRU emails etc—our disaster of a minority Australian Labor government is about to introduce a carbon tax as a prelude to an Emissions Trading Scheme—and the tiny, but drunk with power Greens party, that will hold the balance of power post-July , and with it the ability to fell the government—– is demanding not only that coal-fired power stations be shut down, with nothing to take their place, but that we end the export of coal.
Such is the world of post-normal science and almost every institution , especially the media, completely infiltrated and dominated by the Left.

May 13, 2011 5:54 pm

I think a parody is in order. Perhaps something like this…
We’re real climate scientists and here’s a clue!
Every paper we write passes peer review!
Here’s one from the 90s by our man Mann,
Shows no global warming till Big Oil’s scam!
If you want to survive, then back up the truck.
What’s that? Mann’s screwed up the stats? Awwww F*ck!
Doesn’t really matter, cuz we’ve got a spare,
another peered paper, the stick’s really there!
Obama’s on board and they’re channeling Reagan,
Ha! Next stop’s nirvana through copenhagen,
Shove it deniers, you’re all outa luck!
What’s that? On all those web sites? Awwwww F*ck!
Okay, hiding data might look like a stink,
But even Einstein used disappearing ink,
We’re climate scientists and we’re here to say,
All scholars hide data that don’t go their way.
Find one to dispute us, go ahead rotsa ruck!
What’s that? A druggie from Berkeley? Awwwwww F*ck!

Dave Worley
May 13, 2011 9:01 pm

Rap has sunk to a new low with those lyrics, if that’s possible.

May 14, 2011 8:12 am

To quote a great man:
“Somebody just can’t handle satire.”

May 14, 2011 7:06 pm

Now announcing: The Death Of Rap Music

May 14, 2011 7:13 pm

I predicted that in 1989. My timing was a bit off.

May 16, 2011 7:04 pm

So Prof Roger N. Jones is a Research Fellow at the “Centre for Strategic Economic Studies (not a climate scientist), however not long after this you see him in the video mouthing “I’m a climate scientist”. What stupid liars these morons are. If you’re going to lie, at least make it so that your lie can’t be detected by your own contradictions in the same video!
Also many of the people at the beginning are identified as being from the “Climate Change Research Centre”, so their position, by definition of their very job, must be that of a global warmist. Also, as many have already pointed out, their careers depend on the dogma of AGW being accepted.

Brad R
May 18, 2011 9:23 am

Perhaps the appropriate vehicle to respond to rap music is classic ’70s rock. With revised lyrics suitable for young scientists, and sans profanity. I give you “Carbon in the Sky”:
Alas, I can’t sing, or play an instrument, or make a YouTube video. Maybe M4GW can take up the project.

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