With days where they come off like this, who needs enemies? Two things happened on March 1st that make me question how this government organization can function reliable and serve the people of the United States. First was a Carl Sagan moment; instead of “billions and billions” we have millions and trillions. That was followed by “uh, what was the question about again Mr. Barton?”. /sarc
EPA’s Clean Air Act: Saving millions and making trillions?
By Steve Milloy JunkScience.com
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency claimed today that it is saving millions of lives and making the U.S. trillions of dollars through the Clean Air Act.
JunkScience.com has prepared a response to the agency’s fanciful claims. Though it is still in draft form, we are posting “EPA’s Clean Air Act: Pretending air pollution is worse than it is” early in response to the EPA’s wild assertions.
The full story with links is at JunkScience.com.
(worth a click for the sheer simplicity – Anthony)
And then there’s this:
Shocker: EPA air chief ignorant of atmospheric CO2 levels
By Steve Milloy
March 1, 2011, JunkScience.com
At today’s House Energy and Power Subcommittee hearing on EPA’s job killing greenhouse gas regulations, Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) asked panel witness Gina McCarthy – chief of EPA’s air programs, including the agency’s greenhouse gas regulation – whether she had any idea of what the atmospheric level of carbon dioxide is, she responded that SHE DID NOT.
The full story is at JunkScience.com.
Does anyone have a link to the House Energy and Power Subcommittee hearing on EPA?
That would be kind of helpful. Thanks in advance as I continue to search for this link myself, if I find I’ll post it here.
Not know atmospheric CO@ur momisugly levels …
priceless
🙁
Further to my comment about disappearing comments, when I tried to resubmit it I got a msg saying ‘duplicate comment: you’ve already posted this’. Very odd.
OK I’ll answer my own question just posted.
The committee hearing can be found here;
http://energycommerce.house.gov/news/PRArticle.aspx?NewsID=8286
Please disregard my previous post.
“EPA’s job killing greenhouse gas regulations”
For years the UK/Scottish government have been spreading the lie that spending on renewables creates jobs, well now research in the UK has shown that 3.7 jobs are lost in the economy from each renewable energy job gained.
http://scottishsceptic.wordpress.com/2011/02/28/the-lies-about-green-jobs/
Just another instance of:
“Don’t confuse me with the facts, my mind is made up.”
This should be the mantra of the climate alarmist cult.
Shocker? The Administration has politicized the DOJ to the largest extent, ever, and the lesser agencies are perhaps supposed to be the paragons of virtue, truth and morality. It’s enough to move to North Korea to get some truth for a change.
Regardless, these figures are all maybe, might be, could be, sorta and we think it looks good. Compare them to the real numbers of those that have their heartbeats ended through the abortion mills. Trillions indeed.
I’m currently conducting research for my PhD dissertation, which is focused upon investigating the effect that local climate and atmospheric contaminants has upon corrosion rates. My source of pollution data is the EPA. Just yesterday, I noticed that 2008 was the last year they updated their pollutant database, which has been updated regularly for many locations since around 1980.
I have to wonder if they’ve diverted resources used for nearly 30 years of pollution monitoring and applied them to ‘other’ purposes…
Who cares for all you deniers. We have our models, made in MANNHASENIA, and they tell us we saved millions of lives and trillions of dollars.
“whether she had any idea of what the atmospheric level of carbon dioxide is, she responded that SHE DID NOT.”
The UK once had a Minister of Transport (Barbara Castle) who couldn’t drive….
Anthony,
You missed that on March 1st they also delayed the reporting deadline for the first Mandatory GHG Reporting report (for 2010). A small thing, but it could be added to their “banner day” list.
http://www.ccdsupport.com/confluence/display/help/Extension+of+Reporting+Deadline+for+2010+GHG+Emissions
EPA officially states: “This extension would allow EPA to further test the system that reporters will use to submit data, and give industry the opportunity to test the tool, provide feedback and have sufficient time to become familiar with it prior to reporting.”
This could have been shortened to: The reporting software development is behind schedule (as is often the case with new software systems).
Gina McCarthy is a “Manager”. The job description does not include having to know anything technical or scientific. She has “People” for that. Besides, if she actually had known the answer to any technical question we would not be able to make fun of her. And where’s the fun in that? Besides, I think she has actually done us a favor by embarrassing herself and her part of the EPA.
Here is the direct link to:
EPA’s Clean Air Act: Pretending air pollution is worse than it is
By Steve Milloy
http://junksciencecom.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/epas-clean-air-act-021411-draft.pdf
Not knowing how much CO2 there is in the atmo just shows that the real objective has nothing to do with saving the world.
Hank Hancock says:
March 2, 2011 at 2:39 am
Global warming is driven by two major components – CO2 and stupidity.
But not necessarily in that order.
Just an observation.
Dave @ur momisugly March 2, 2011 at 3:44 am
Not entirely sure what emissions 2009-2011 data you are looking for, however, most can be found at:
http://camddataandmaps.epa.gov/gdm/index.cfm?fuseaction=emissions.wizard
I use this database fairly regularly. It takes a bit of playing with to tease-out specific data. I have gotten 2009 data from the database. Note the 2010-2011 data is preliminary.
Also I would be cautious of the EPA’s “prepackaged” data sets. I have found these sets have not been updated with corrections and can lead to erroneous conclusions.
Also, depending upon the amount of data you need you may need to grab the data in small bits, as the site will time-out or crash when one attempts to take-out large data sets.
Regards, D. A. Kelly (AKA Kforestcat)
Email the EPA the link to WUWT, where the handy “World Climate Widgit” (still free) tells me that CO2 level is 390.92 ppm.
Imagine how impressed Rep. Barton would have been if Ms. McCarthy had given that precise value (/sarc).
Their competence is as elusive as their proof.
D. A. Kelly (Kforestcat) says:
March 2, 2011 at 6:38 am
Dave @ur momisugly March 2, 2011 at 3:44 am
Not entirely sure what emissions 2009-2011 data you are looking for, however, most can be found at:
http://camddataandmaps.epa.gov/gdm/index.cfm?fuseaction=emissions.wizard
D.A.
Thanks for the tip. I did a quick review of the site you referenced but couldn’t find annual mean concentrations of SO2 for individual sampling locations. I’ll look a little deeper though.
The data I’ve been using is found at the link below. This site provides a wide variety of individual data including annual mean averages.
http://www.epa.gov/air/data/geosel.html
Dave
It looks like we are talking about different emissions data sets. You are looking for data from the EPA’s air monitoring sites (ambient air quality data). Whereas I was looking at emissions data from specific sources (unit emissions data).
I’m not that familiar with ambient air quality data; other than evaluate it’s use in the proposed Transport rule via a rebuild of the EPA’s Air Quality Assessment Tool (AQAT).
I’m afraid I won’t be much help with your specific issue. Best of luck
Regards, D. A. Kelly (Kforestcat)
I read the EPA news release in defense of the Clean-Air-Act and noticed CO2 was never mentioned. It appears to be saying, without admitting fault, “Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.” I question the validity in the economic analysis since one of their best economist(Alan Carlin) retired last year because the administration would not take his advice with regards to the CO2 findings. If EPA had followed the guidelines given in the Clean-Air-Act, they would not have found it to be a pollutant. I did atmospheric research at EPA for over 20 years working within the guidelines of the Clean-Air-Act and observed how politics side-tracks objective science research. The CO2 findings was a completed derailment.
We’re not at all surprised at the EPA’s revelations, are we? Their funding is under attack, so they’re desperately grasping at straws to justify their existence.
Same thing is happening here in Reno, where UNR issues results of a study it did (no bias there, huh?) that points out how the college athletics’ program benefits the local community by $18.5Mil /yr. How? By employing 89 people.
89 people employed at a university that don’t teach a thing, some with salaries stretching well beyond a quarter million dollars, and there’s not one single degree that comes from their efforts.
They even claim that $4.5Mil of the total comes from tourists coming to see games…but conveniently not a mention of how many locals take the equivalent money OUT when they go on the road with a team for away games…..Like Hawaii or S.F.?
The timing is what got my attention. The study was released at the beginning of Nevada’s legislature going into session and higher education budgets are facing the axe. Not a surprise that academic sections are facing still more cuts, but athletics is hiring and giving raises quietly behind the scenes.
I’ve got no beef with athletics, as long as their existence isn’t contrary to the U’s mission, which it has now become…it’s become a top-heavy pyramid scheme and muscled its way into a position of unwarranted power.
Just like the EPA.
http://www.ctlng.state.ct.us/mccarthy.htm Tells you all you need to know. McCarthy is a life-long bureaucrat.
@Dave ward.
I remember Barbara Castle. Didn’t she require a lorry for personal transport?
Is there a transcript of the Q&A? All I see there is her prepared remarks.
[[[ Snotrocket says:
March 2, 2011 at 2:58 am
Anthony: Is there a new system for posting? I just wrote a long comment, pressed the ‘post comment’ button and it disappeared…….
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kbray suggests:
I use the edit feature to copy my comment just before I post it.
I highlight and copy.
I have had several posts disappear, but I just repost them from the copy, no sweat.
It avoids the headache and loss of all that effort.
It must be a brief pulse or flicker in the signal somehow and gets lost in the queue.
It happens.
Remember the top 3 rules for using computer successfully…
1) Backup
2) Backup
3) Backup
Most of us have (tragically) learned “the hard way”.