This essay from Willis appeared on WUWT overnight Saturday while I slept. After reading it this morning, I decided to make it a sticky at the top of WUWT (I also added the open letter reference) because it says everything that needs to be said about the current state of affairs in climate science and the skeptic position. I ask readers not only to read it, but to disseminate it widely at other websites and forums. Hopefully, the right people will read this. Thanks for your consideration, and thank you, Willis.
UPDATE: I’ve made this essay available as a PDF here: Willis_Trenberth_WUWT_Essay suitable for printing and emailing. – Anthony
UPDATE2: Trenberth reacts: edits speech to fix copying, leaves “deniers”
Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
I would like to take as my text the following quote from the recent paper (PDF, 270k also on web here) by Dr. Kevin Trenberth:
Given that global warming is “unequivocal”, to quote the 2007 IPCC report, the null hypothesis should now be reversed, thereby placing the burden of proof on showing that there is no human influence [on the climate].
Figure 1. The game of Monopoly’s “Community Chest” card that was randomly drawn by Dr. Kevin Trenberth. Some guys are just lucky, I guess.
The “null hypothesis” in science is the condition that would result if what you are trying to establish is not true. For example, if your hypothesis is that air pressure affects plant growth rates, the null hypothesis is that air pressure has no effect on plant growth rates. Once you have both hypotheses, then you can see which hypothesis is supported by the evidence.
In climate science, the AGW hypothesis states that human GHG emissions significantly affect the climate. As such, the null hypothesis is that human GHG emissions do not significantly affect the climate, that the climate variations are the result of natural processes. This null hypothesis is what Doctor T wants to reverse.
As Steve McIntyre has often commented, with these folks you really have to keep your eye on the pea under the walnut shell. These folks seem to have sub-specialties in the “three-card monte” sub-species of science. Did you notice when the pea went from under one walnut shell to another in Dr. T’s quotation above? Take another look at it.
The first part of Dr. T’s statement is true. There is general scientific agreement that the globe has been warming, in fits and starts of course, for the last three centuries or so. And since it has been thusly warming for centuries, the obvious null hypothesis would have to be that the half-degree of warming we experienced in the 20th century was a continuation of some long-term ongoing natural trend.
But that’s not what Dr. Trenberth is doing here. Keep your eye on the pea. He has smoothly segued from the IPCC saying “global warming is ‘unequivocal'”, which is true, and stitched that idea so cleverly onto another idea, ‘and thus humans affect the climate’, that you can’t even see the seam.
The pea is already under the other walnut shell. He is implying that the IPCC says that scientists have “unequivocally” shown that humans are the cause of weather ills, and if I don’t take that as an article of faith, it’s my job to prove that we are not the cause of floods in Brisbane.
Now, lest you think that the IPCC actually did mean that ‘humans are the cause’ when they said (in his words) that ‘global warming was “unequivocal”‘, here’s their full statement from the IPCC Fourth Assessment Report Summary For Policymakers (2007) (PDF, 3.7 MB):
Warming of the climate system is unequivocal, as is now evident from observations of increases in global average air and ocean temperatures, widespread melting of snow and ice, and rising global mean sea level (see Figure SPM-3).
Despite the vagueness of a lack of a timeframe, that is generally true, but it says nothing about humans being the cause. So he is totally misrepresenting the IPCC findings (which he helped write, remember, so it’s not a misunderstanding) to advance his argument. The IPCC said nothing like what he is implying.
Gotta love the style, though, simply proclaiming by imperial fiat that his side is the winner in one of the longest-running modern scientific debates. And his only proffered “evidence” for this claim? It is the unequivocal fact that Phil Jones and Michael Mann and Caspar Amman and Gene Wahl and the other good old boys of the IPCC all agree with him. That is to say, Dr. T’s justification for reversing the null hypothesis is that the IPCC report that Dr. T helped write agrees with Dr. T. That’s recursive enough to make Ouroboros weep in envy …
And the IPCC not only says it’s true, it’s “unequivocal”. Just plain truth wouldn’t be scientific enough for those guys, I guess. Instead, it is “unequivocal” truth. Here’s what “unequivocal” means (emphasis mine):
unequivocal: adjective: admitting of no doubt or misunderstanding; having only one meaning or interpretation and leading to only one conclusion (“Unequivocal evidence”)
Notice how well crafted Dr. T’s sentence is. After bringing in “global warming”, he introduces the word “unequivocal”, meaning we can only draw one conclusion. Then in the second half of the sentence, he falsely attaches that “unequivocal” certainty of conclusion to his own curious conclusion, that the normal rules of science should be reversed for the benefit of … … well, not to put too fine a point on it, he’s claiming that normal scientific rules should be reversed for the benefit of Dr. Kevin Trenberth and the IPCC and those he supports. Probably just a coincidence, though.
For Dr. Trenberth to call for the usual null hypothesis (which is that what we observe in nature is, you know, natural) to be reversed, citing as his evidence the IPCC statement that the earth is actually warming, is nonsense. However, it is not meaningless nonsense. It is pernicious, insidious, and dangerous nonsense. He wants us to spend billions of dollars based on this level of thinking, and he has cleverly conflated two ideas to push his agenda.
I understand that Dr. T has a scientific hypothesis. This hypothesis, generally called the “AGW hypothesis”, is that if greenhouse gases (GHGs) go up, the temperature must follow, and nothing else matters. The hypothesis is that the GHGs are the master thermostat for the globe, everything else just averages out in the long run, nothing could possibly affect the long-term climate but GHGs, nothing to see here, folks, move along. No other forcings, feedbacks, or hypotheses need apply. GHGs rule, OK?
Which is an interesting hypothesis, but it is woefully short of either theoretical or observational support. In part, of course, this is because the AGW hypothesis provides almost nothing in the way of a statement or a prediction which can be falsified. This difficulty in falsification of the hypothesis, while perhaps attractive to the proponents of the hypothesis, inevitably implies a corresponding difficulty in verification or support of the hypothesis.
In addition, a number of arguably cogent and certainly feasible scientific objections have been raised against various parts of the hypothesis, from the nature and sign of the forcings considered and unconsidered, to the existence of natural thermostatic mechanisms.
Finally, to that we have to add the general failure of what few predictions have come from the teraflops of model churning in support of the AGW hypothesis. We haven’t seen any acceleration in sea level rise. We haven’t seen any climate refugees. The climate model Pinatubo prediction was way off the mark. The number and power of hurricanes hasn’t increased as predicted. And you remember the coral atolls and Bangladesh that you and the IPCC warned us about, Dr. T, the ones that were going to get washed away by the oncoming Thermageddon? Bangladesh and the atoll islands are both getting bigger, not smaller. We were promised a warming of two, maybe even three tenths of a degree per decade this century if we didn’t mend our evil carbon-loving ways, and so far we haven’t mended one thing, and we have seen … well … zero tenths of a degree for the first decade.
So to date, the evidentiary scorecard looks real bad for the AGW hypothesis. Might change tomorrow, I’m not saying the game’s over, that’s AGW nonsense that I’ll leave to Dr. T. I’m just saying that after a quarter century of having unlimited funding and teraflops of computer horsepower and hundreds of thousands of hours of grad students’ and scientists’ time and the full-throated support of the media and university departments dedicated to establishing the hypothesis, AGW supporters have not yet come up with much observational evidence to show for the time and money invested. Which should give you a clue as to why Dr. T is focused on the rules of the game. As the hoary lawyer’s axiom has it, if you can’t argue facts argue the law [the rules of the game], and if you can’t argue the law pound the table and loudly proclaim your innocence …
So now, taking both tacks at once in his paper, Dr. T. is both re-asserting his innocence and proposing that we re-write the rules of the whole game … I find myself cracking up laughing over my keyboard at the raw nerve of the man. If he and his ideas weren’t so dangerous, it would be truly funny.
Look, I’m sorry to be the one to break the bad news to you, Dr. T, but you can’t change the rules of scientific inquiry this late in the game. Here are the 2011 rules, which curiously are just like the 1811 rules.
First, you have to show that some aspect of the climate is historically anomalous or unusual. As far as I know, no one has done that, including you. So the game is in serious danger before it is even begun. If you can’t show me where the climate has gone off its natural rails, if you can’t point to where the climate is acting unusually or anomalously, then what good are your explanations as to why it supposedly went off the rails at some mystery location you can’t identify?
(And of course, this is exactly what Dr. T would gain by changing the rules, and may relate to his desire to change them. With so few examples to give to support his position, after a quarter century of searching for such evidence, it would certainly be tempting to try to change the rules … but I digress.)
But perhaps, Dr. T., perhaps you have found some such climate anomaly which cannot be explained as natural variation and you just haven’t made it public yet.
If you have evidence that the climate is acting anomalously, then Second, you have to show that the anomaly can be explained by human actions. And no, Dr. T., you can’t just wave your hands and say something like “Willis, the IPCC sez you have to prove that what generations of people called ‘natural’, actually is natural”. There’s an arcane technical scientific name for that, too. It’s called “cheating”, Dr. T., and is frowned on in the better circles of scientific inquiry …
(N.B. – pulling variables out of a tuned computer model and then proudly announcing that the model doesn’t work without the missing variables doesn’t mean you have established that humans affect the climate. It simply means that you tuned your computer model to reproduce the historical record using all the variables, and as an inevitable result, when using only part of those variables your model doesn’t do as well at reproducing the historical record. No points for that claim.)
Third, you have to defend your work, and not just from the softball questions of your specially selected peer reviewers who “know what to say” to get you published in scientific journals. In 2011, curiously, we’ve gone back to the customs of the 1800s, the public marketplace of ideas — except this time it’s an electronic marketplace of ideas, rather than people speaking from the dais and in the halls of the Royal Society in London. If you won’t stand up and publicly defend your work, it’s simple – you won’t be believed. And not just by me. Other scientists are watching, and considering, and evaluating.
This doesn’t mean you have to reply to every idiot with a half-baked objection and a tin-foil hat. It does mean that if you refuse to answer serious scientific questions, people will take note of that refusal. You must have noticed how such refusal to answer scientific questions totally destroyed the scientific credibility of the website RealClimate. Well, they’re your friends, so perhaps you didn’t notice, but if not, you should notice, here’s an example. (PDF, 147K) Running from serious scientific questions, as they make a practice of doing at RealClimate, makes you look weak whether you are or not.
And Always, you have to show your work. You have to archive your data. You have to reveal your computer algorithms. You have to expose everything that supports and sustains your claims to the brutal light of public inquiry, warts and all.
Dr. T., I fear you’ll have to get used to the sea change, this is not your father’s climate science. The bottom line is we’re no longer willing to trust you. You could publish in the Akashic Records and I wouldn’t believe what you said until I checked the figures myself. I’m sorry to say it, but by the actions of you and your colleagues, you have forfeited the public’s trust. You blew your credibility, Dr. T, and you have not yet rebuilt it.
And further actions like your current attempt to re-write the rules of science aren’t helping at all. Nor is trying to convince us that you look good with a coat of the finest English whitewash from the “investigations” into Climategate. Didn’t you guys notice the lesson of Watergate, that the coverup is more damaging than the original malfeasance?
Dr. T, you had a good run, you were feted and honored, but the day of reckoning up the cost has come and gone. Like some book said, you and the other un-indicted co-conspirators have been weighed in the balances, and found wanting. At this point, you have two choices — accept it and move on, or bitch about it. I strongly advise the former, but so far all I see is the latter.
You want to regain the trust of the public, for yourself and for climate science? It won’t be easy, but it can be done. Here’s my shortlist of recommendations for you and other mainstream climate scientists:
• Stop trying to sell the idea that the science is settled. Climate science is a new science, we don’t even have agreement on whether clouds warm or cool the planet, we don’t know if there are thermostatic interactions that tend to maintain some temperature in preference to others. Or as you wrote to Tom Wigley, Dr. T,
How come you do not agree with a statement that says we are no where close to knowing where energy is going or whether clouds are changing to make the planet brighter. We are not close to balancing the energy budget. The fact that we can not account for what is happening in the climate system makes any consideration of geoengineering quite hopeless as we will never be able to tell if it is successful or not! It is a travesty!
SOURCE: email 1255550975
Curious. You state strongly to your friend that we’re not close to knowing where the energy is going or to balancing the energy budget, yet you say in public that we know enough to take the most extraordinary step of reversing the null hypothesis … how does that work again?
At this point, there’s not much about climate science that is “unequivocal” except that the climate is always changing.
• Don’t try to change the rules of the game in mid-stream. It makes you look desperate, whether you are or not.
• Stop calling people “deniers”, my goodness, after multiple requests that’s just common courtesy and decency, where are your manners? It makes you look surly and uncivilized, whether you are or not.
• Stop avoiding public discussion and debate of your work. You are asking us to spend billions of dollars based on your conclusions. If you won’t bother to defend those conclusions, don’t bother us with them. Refusing to publicly defend your billion dollar claims make it look like you can’t defend them, whether you can or not.
• Stop secretly moving the pea under the walnut shells. You obviously think we are blind, you also clearly believe we wouldn’t remember that you said we have a poor understanding of the climate system. Disabuse yourself of the idea that you are dealing with fools or idiots, and do it immediately. As I have found to my cost, exposing my scientific claims to the cruel basilisk gaze of the internet is like playing chess with Deep Blue … individual processors have different abilities, but overall any faults in my ideas will certainly be exposed. Too many people looking at my ideas from too many sides for much to slip through. Trying anything but absolute honesty on the collective memory and wisdom of the internet makes you look like both a fool and con man, whether you are one or not.
• Write scientific papers that don’t center around words like “possibly” or “conceivably” or “might”. Yes, possibly all of the water molecules in my glass of water might be heading upwards at the same instant, and I could conceivably win the Mega-Ball lottery, and I might still play third base for the New York Yankees, but that is idle speculation that has no place in scientific inquiry. Give us facts, give us uncertainties, but spare us the stuff like “This raises the possibility that by 2050, this could lead to the total dissolution of all inter-atomic bonds …”. Yeah, I suppose it could. So what, should I buy a lottery ticket?
• Stop lauding the pathetic purveyors of failed prophecies. Perhaps you climate guys haven’t noticed, but Paul Ehrlich was not a visionary genius. He was a failure whose only exceptional talent is the making of apocalyptic forecasts that didn’t come true. In any business he would not have lasted one minute past the cratering collapse of his first ridiculous forecast of widespread food riots and worldwide deaths from global famine in the 1980s … but in academia, despite repeating his initial “We’re all gonna crash and burn, end of the world coming up soon, you betcha” prognostication method several more times with no corresponding crashing burning or ending, he’s still a professor at Stanford. Now that’s understandable under tenure rules, you can’t fire him for being a serially unsuccessful doomcaster. But he also appears to be one of your senior AGW thinkers and public representatives, which is totally incomprehensible to me.
His string of predicted global catastrophes that never came anywhere near true was only matched by the inimitable collapses of the prophecies of his wife Anne, and of his cohorts John Holdren and the late Stephen Schneider. I fear we’ll never see their like again, a fearsome foursome who between them never made one single prediction that actually came to pass. Stop using them as your spokesmodels, it doesn’t increase confidence in your claims.
• Enough with the scary scenarios, already. You’ve done the Chicken Little thing to death, give it a rest, it is sooo last century. It makes you look both out-of-date and hysterical whether you are or not.
• Speak out against scientific malfeasance whenever and wherever you see it. This is critical to the restoration of trust. I’m sick of watching climate scientists doing backflips to avoid saying to Lonnie Thompson “Hey, idiot, archive all of your data, you’re ruining all of our reputations!”. The overwhelming silence of mainstream AGW scientists on these matters is one of the (unfortunately numerous) reasons that the public doesn’t trust climate scientists, and justifiably so. You absolutely must clean up your own house to restore public trust, no one else can do it. Speak up. We can’t hear you.
• Stop re-asserting the innocence of you and your friends. It makes you all look guilty, whether you are or not … and since the CRU emails unequivocally favor the “guilty” possibility, it makes you look unapologetic as well as guilty. Whether you are or not.
• STOP HIDING THINGS!!! Give your most private data and your most top-secret computer codes directly to your worst enemies and see if they can poke holes in your ideas. If they can’t, then you’re home free. That is true science, not hiding your data and gaming the IPCC rules to your advantage.
• Admit the true uncertainties. The mis-treatment of uncertainty in the IPCC reports, and the underestimation of true uncertainty in climate science in general, is a scandal.
• Scrap the IPCC. It has run its race. Do you truly think that whatever comes out of the next IPCC report will make the slightest difference to the debate? You’ve had four IPCC reports in a row, each one more alarmist than the previous one. You’ve had every environmental organization shilling for you. You’ve had billions of dollars in support, Al Gore alone spent $300 million on advertising and advocacy. You’ve had 25 years to make your case, with huge resources and supercomputers and entire governments on your side, and you are still losing the public debate … after all of that, do you really think another IPCC report will change anything?
If it is another politically driven error-fest like the last one, I don’t think so. And what are the odds of it being an honest assessment of the science? Either way the next IPCC report won’t settle a single discussion, even if it is honest science. Again, Dr. T, you have only yourself and your friends to blame. You used the IPCC to flog bad science like the Hokeyschtick, your friends abused the IPCC to sneak in papers y’all favored and keep out papers you didn’t like, you didn’t check your references so stupid errors were proclaimed as gospel truth, it’s all a matter of record.
Do you truly think that after Climategate, and after the revelations of things like IPCC citations of WWF propaganda pieces as if they were solid science, and after Pachauri’s ludicrous claim that it was “voodoo science” to point out the Himalayan glacier errors, after all that do you think anyone with half a brain still believes the IPCC is some neutral arbiter of climate science whose ex-cathedra pronouncements can be relied upon?
Because if you do think people still believe that, you really should get out more. At this point people don’t trust the IPCC any more than they trust you and your friends. Another IPCC report will be roundly ignored by one side, and cited as inerrant gospel by the other side. How will that help anyone? Forget about the IPCC, it is a meaningless distraction, and get back to the science.
That’s my free advice, Dr. T., and I’m sure it’s worth every penny you paid for it. Look, I don’t think you’re a bad guy. Sadly for you, but fortunately for us, you got caught hanging out with the bad boys who had their hands in the cookie jar. And tragically for everyone, all of you were seduced by “noble cause corruption”. Hey, it’s nothing to be ashamed of, it’s happened to me too, you’re not the first guy to think that the nobility of your cause justified improper actions.
But as far as subsequently proclaiming your innocence and saying that you and your friends did nothing wrong? Sorry, Dr. T, the jury has already come in on that one, and they weren’t distracted by either the nobility of your cause, nor by the unequivocal fact that you and your friends were whitewashed as pure as the driven snow in the investigation done by your other friends … instead, they noted your emails saying things like:
In that regard I don’t think you can ignore it all, as Mike [Mann] suggests as one option, but the response should try to somehow label these guys a[s] lazy and incompetent and unable to do the huge amount of work it takes to construct such a database.
Indeed technology and data handling capabilities have evolved and not everything was saved. So my feeble suggestion is to indeed cast aspersions on their motives and throw in some counter rhetoric. Labeling them as lazy with nothing better to do seems like a good thing to do.
SOURCE: email 1177158252
Yeah, that’s the ticket, that’s how a real scientist defends his scientific claims …
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“I understand that Dr. T has a scientific hypothesis. This hypothesis, generally called the “AGW hypothesis”, is that if greenhouse gases (GHGs) go up, the temperature must follow, and nothing else matters. ”
If you have to misrepresent your opponents postion to make your point, it is merely rhetoric, not science. The AGW hypothesis is that if GHGs go up then the temperature will rise *all things being otherwise equal*. It certainly doesn’t say “nothing else matters”, look at figure SPM.2 in the IPCC WG1 scientific basis report, and you’ll find that as early as page 4 they are mentioning other things that matter. Limiting carbon emissions may be the most effective means we have of moderating the climate change expected under the hypothesis, but that is not the same as “nothing else matters”. The quote given above is, to put it mildly, highly disingenuous.
Willis
“Robert, I’m not “insinuating” that there has been no statistically significant warming in the past decade. I’m flat-out stating there has been no warming in the last 15 years, and I have given excellent mathematical authority for the statement. ”
If that statement is based on a statistical hypothesis test, then it is simply incorrect. If the trend fails to reach the required level of statistical significance that means only that there is insifficuent evidence to reject the null hypothesis of no warming. While a statistically insignificant trend is (in isolation) not sufficient evidence to make a claim of warming, it most certainly is not evidence to make the claim that there has been no warming.
henry@Dikran
Taking the Pretoria results and La Paz results together, we note that it has actually been cooling a bit on earth…
not warming.
Are you awake?
I was asking: does anyone have an idea as to why minimum temperatures are declining at a constant rate of 0.35 degrees C per decade?
Dikran,
From the point of view of policy making, which after all is what all the AGW proponents want, a trend that is statistically insignificant to prove any warming should be the equivalent of ‘no trend’, i.e. no warming, meaning that no policy should be made based upon it.
This of course simplifies the picture, but that’s what policy making does, and the use of insignificant or unproven trends and hypotheses in AGW based policy making is a major component of the argument of those that do not accept the core AGW claims (that a CO2 rise drives a temperature rise).
Even this doesn’t seem to prevent those who would like to act on the ‘precautionary principle’, but it should. If there is not enough significance in the evidence (or the core principle of the science is in doubt, which it certainly is), then acting out the precautionary principle can have large negative and unintended side effects, as well as being a huge waste of money. For example, the diversion of arable croplands to grow corn for ethanol production has the negative side effect of reducing the crop yields for human food use, and also pushing up the prices. A mad policy if ever there was one.
I’m also curious of your use of the double negative, i.e. “insufficient evidence to reject the null hypothesis of no warming”. My understanding of science and the scientific method is that there has to be sufficient evidence to accept the main hypothesis. This double negative is the sly trick that Dr. T is trying to use to have the AGW hypothesis accepted as fact until it can be disproved (then denying any debate that will provide the evidence of the disproof), the exact thing Willis was warning about and rejecting as wholly unscientific.
Dikran@henry You can’t measure global temperature using stations at only two locations (even if they are very nice locations). AGW theory does not predict that the globe will warm monotonically nor uniformly. It would be equally a mistake for a “warmist” to pick two stations which were warming faster than the global mean and try to draw “alarmist” conclusions from that.
Interested N-S,
Your understanding of hypothesis tests is incorrect. Science works by falsification, not verification (see the work of Karl Popper). Theories are proposed, and arguments/mechanisms put forward to support them, but they can never be proven by any number of observations that are consistent with the theory, but it only takes one fact that can’t be reconciled with the theory to disprove it. Thus in classical significance tests, the “aim” is to reject the null hypothesis, rather than “prove” the alternative hypothesis.
Tenberth is very unlikely to think that a statistically significant trend proves AGW theory, it just means that we can rule out the possibility that there is no warming. It says nothing at all about the cause of the warming, and hence cannot be proof of AGW, which specifies a particular mechanism causing (some of) the warming.
The reason Trenberth thinks AGW is an accepted fact is not the trend over the last 15 years, it is because of multiple lines of reasoning and multiple sources of supporting evidence. See the IPCC WG1 scientific basis report for details.
Hi Dikran
Well, why don’t you begin by proving to me from the station where you live, that it has been warming in the period of the last 35 years or so.. If an increase of GHG’s causes entrapment of heat (=the AGW theory) you must be able to show that minimum temps. are rising at a faster rate than means and maxes.Note the conditions that I have set = Use dry cloudless days to compare.
http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/assessment-of-global-warming-and-global-warming-caused-by-greenhouse-forcings-in-pretoria-south-africa
Dikran,
I agree that scientists propose hypotheses and other scientists try to disprove them, and if they can’t then what’s left is generally accepted as current wisdom, but even that is seen as a temporary condition. What I was referring to is the double negative of not disproving the null hypothesis being incorrectly used to set political policy. This should not be done. The public have every right to see that sufficient proof of a hypothesis is present before policy is set and not the absence of disproof. This is very similar to the legal constructs of being found guilty beyond reasonable doubt, and innocent until proven guilty.
I know that is not how scientists approach their work, and this is the difficulty in science crossing over into policy. Policy must be based on solid (beyond doubt) proof of a hypothesis and not the inability to disprove a hypothesis, which is what the Dr. T’s of this world are trying to achieve, and to our detriment, seemingly succeeding in.
As it stands, the AGW hypothesis is seriously doubted by a very large number of eminent scientists whose work is directly related to climate study, including those in the core sciences, physics etc. On this basis alone, the level of confidence in the AGW hypothesis should be seen to be far below that which any policy and action can be taken, whether on the precautionary principle or otherwise.
I live in the UK, and I’m faced with huge energy price rises because the government have surrendered to the AGW proponents (including the EU) and is pushing through a highly costly and damaging renewable (mainly wind) energy policy. In the US, the concern over energy security and oil supply is mistakenly causing policy to be set toward ethanol and renewables (amongst others), when there are huge oil reserves right under US soil, enough to last for hundreds of years (see http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911 and http://oilshalegas.com/bakkenshale.html).
The tide is turning against AGW however, including in the UK where the recent enquiries into CRUGate seemingly exonerated the participants, but both the government Science & Technology and Transport Select Committees are starting to question these enquiries and other strongly pro-AGW institutions such as the Met Office, believing quite rightly that they were too secretive, that many questions remained unanswered and that the public deserve to know the truth. One hopes that when it is demonstrated that insufficient evidence (proof) exists for the AGW case, that evidence for it has been falsified and that disproof has been deliberately suppressed/hidden/ignored, then policy makers will understand that they can no longer enact policy and corresponding tax and law based on falsity. Even now, by continuing to refuse to acknowledge evidence against the AGW hypothesis (the ‘science is settled’ line), they are laying themselves open to criminal charges of conspiracy and deception.
HenryP As I said, you can’t find out whether there has been global warming by looking at a handful of stations. I am certainly not going to engage in a cherry picking contest, to demonstrate that stations exist with warming trends, I have already pointed out that would be bad science. If you want to know whether there has been global warming, compute the global mean temperature (e.g. by taking an area weighted average of all station data in the global historic network) and computing its trend (with error bars).
Looking at individual stations tells you next to nothing about global climate, it only tells you about local climate.
Interested N-S wrote
“What I was referring to is the double negative of not disproving the null hypothesis being incorrectly used to set political policy. ”
There is no double negative. The null hypothesis is that there is no warming. The lack of statistical significance means there is insufficient evidence to reject that null hypothesis. All that means is that neither hypothesis has been disproven. That doesn’t mean though that both hypotheses are equally plausible.
“The public have every right to see that sufficient proof of a hypothesis is present before policy is set and not the absence of disproof.”
As I have already said, science doesn’t work that way. No scientific theory concerning the real world can be proven, only disproven (Popper). If you require proof, you have to stick to the purely abstract (for instance mathematics).
Dikran Marsupial says:
“The null hypothesis is that there is no warming.”
That is incorrect. The climate null hypothesis states that the current climate is no different than the climate during the Holocene, when temperatures were both higher and lower than now, and had the same trends. The rise in a minor trace gas is unmeasurable and therefore inconsequential.
Since none of the parameters has been exceeded [and in fact, the current climate is about in the middle of the average], and no verifiable global harm can be attributed to the increase in CO2, the null hypothesis remains un-falsified — which perforce falsifies the alternative CO2=CAGW hypothesis.
The null is the gold standard against which any alternative hypothesis is tested. No measurable difference? Then the alternative hypothesis fails.
It would not disprove AGW if current temperatures were within the extremes observed so far during the Holocene, becuase AGW theory does not predict that current temperatures must be warmer now than at any point during the Holocene. If you want a null hypothesis to use to disprove AGW you need to have a null hypothesis that asserts a condition that AGW actually forbids.
If you think the null hypothesis not being falsified means the alternative hypothesis must be false, then that obviously incorrect. If I had a coin with two heads and I flipped it and (surprise surprise) got a head, if I were to perform the usual hypothesis test for an unbiased coin (H0 probability of a head = 0.5) then my null hypothesis would not be rejected (as the probability of one or more heads in one flip assuming the null hypothesis is true is 0.5 which is greater than 0.05). Does that mean that the alternative hypothesis (i.e. that the coin is biased) is false? Of course not, it just means there is insufficient evidence in one coin flip to decide either way, neither hypothesis is proved nor disproved.
Dikran Marsupial,
You stated: “The null hypothesis is that there is no warming.”
I showed that your understanding of the null hypothesis is in error, because the null says no such thing.
The definition of the null hypothesis is “the statistical hypothesis that states that there are no differences between observed and expected data.”
Since there is no difference between the current climate and the parameters of the Holocene, the CO2-CAGW conjecture fails. QED.
Dikran says:
As I said, you can’t find out whether there has been global warming by looking at a handful of stations.
Henry:
I am saying that I can prove that minimum temps are decreasing anywhere in the world at a rate of ca. 0.35 C per decade but you do not want to understand my “simple” method./ I cannot help you if you chose to be ignorant or not even try to follow my thinking…
henry@Interested N-S
Magnificent piece that you wrote for Dikran. I hope he reads it.
I have had two kids, and when they were small they were quickly able to communicate if they wanted warmth, food or love
Now I have two dogs, and somehow they are also able to do exactly the same.
yesterday, the plants and trees in the garden talked to me.
They said they wanted more warmth and more food (carbon dioxide)
but now we have thousands and thousands of people against us who believe
– or who have been made to believe –
global warming and carbon dioxide is bad
do you realize we are the only real men standing up for the environment?
Henry@anybody
Does Anybody have an idea as to why minimum temps. are decreasing? This is happening while max. temps. are increasing. Could it be that the extra energy from the sun is destroying something in the atmosphere that it makes it to cool faster?
Smokey. If you want to disprove a theory, you need to demonstrate that something prohibited by the theory has ocurred. Your null hypothesis cannot disprove AGW, becuase AGW does not stipulate current temperatures outside the extremes of the Holocene. It is as simple as that, the logic is not difficult.
Henry writes: “I am saying that I can prove that minimum temps are decreasing anywhere in the world at a rate of ca. 0.35 C per decade”
yes, and I didn’t disagree that temperatures have been decreasing in Pretoria and La Paz by the amount you say (I haven’t checked, but I am happy to take your word for it). The point is that the fact that you can cherry pick two locations where it is cooling says nothing about global temperature trends or AGW. I could cherry pick two locations that give a warming trend higher than the global mean trend, but that would be equally meaningless.
“but you do not want to understand my “simple” method. I cannot help you if you chose to be ignorant or not even try to follow my thinking…”
I do understand your method (I didn’t question it, just pointed out that it was unsurprising), do you understand that it tells you nothing about global climate or AGW?
Dikran,
Please read what I said, which was “What I was referring to is the double negative of not disproving the null hypothesis being incorrectly used to set political policy.”, i.e. the use of scientific hypothesis to create political policy. The two have different needs and work on different basis. A scientist proposing his own hypothesis or providing supportive or counter argument to another’s hypothesis doesn’t have to account for tax payers money, politicians do. Scientists aren’t elected, politicians are, but where there is commonality is where scientists are paid by public money, as are politicians, they have to be fully open and accountable, and tell of the truth.
What is of concern to the public, i.e. those outside the science establishment, is whether laws or levied taxes are made upon a sound and demonstrable basis, and if based on ‘science’ that this science is beyond reproach. This doesn’t just apply for the climate, but in all fiedls including medicine, engineering, etc. We have to have confidence in it, and as such the policy makers have a fundamental duty and responsibility to make sure that this sound basis exists, and is beyond reasonable doubt.
The CRUGate emails alone amply demonstrate that the public should not yet have sufficient confidence in the AGW hypothesis, and the policy makers should have scutinised it even more deeply, but didn’t!. You may well say that the IPCC provided that confidence, but remember, the IPCC was established to only examine human influences on the climate, not the climate as a whole. To refuse to examine the many natural climate drivers has placed the IPCC in an untenable position, one that cannot and should not be used to create policy. It would make much more sense to totally ban cars than try and reduce CO2 as this would save many more lives and cost a small fraction of the $100bn the Cancun conference wanted developed nations such as the US, UK, Germany, etc. to hand over to the developing nations.
The whole aim of Dr T. is to pervert this policy making process and enable the socialist political elite to engage in ever more draconian social policy. Take the EPA and its drive to regulate CO2, which is the very foundation of all life forms on earth, this is just one of many examples.
BTW Henry, suggesting someone is ignorant isn’t the best way of getting questions answered, but the Google query “temperature LaPaz” provides:
http://www.inesad.edu.bo/mmblog/mm_20090323.htm
“A meteorologist from the Hadley Climate Research Centre suggested to me that the likely explanation for the observed decrease in temperatures in the Bolivian highlands is a decrease in low level clouds. With fewer low level clouds, night time temperatures would tend to fall substantially (due to increased outgoing infra-red radiation), which would pull down average temperatures. During the day, fewer clouds would have a positive effect on temperatures, increase solar irradiation reaching the ice, and decrease air humidity and precipitation, all of which would contribute to speed up melting, despite stronger night time cooling.”
and
“The observed evidence from Chacaltaya is thus inconsistent with the Anthropogenic Greenhouse Warming (AGW) theory, or, at least, if there is an AGW signal, it is completely drowned by other climatic changes unrelated to AGW. ”
I think the latter is more likely as variability dominates local climate.
You still do not understand what Smokey said about the null Hypothesis. Simply put, there is no theory of AGW. There is not even an hypothesis. There is only a suggestion. In order to advance an hypothesis on AGW, you must show how it DISPROVES the null theory.
You are putting the cart before the horse.
Interested N-S, Can you find a statement in the summary for policymakers in the IPCC WG1 scientific basis report that supports your contention that policy is determined on the basis of not rejecting a null hypothesis? If policy were made on that basis, it would be there in the SPM. I rather doubt it as policy is not made on that basis, but on the basis that AGW is considered the most plausible explanation for the observations. That is the rational means of decision making when there are multiple hypotheses that have not been falsified by the data.
Dikran,
Pretty much all governments have created policy, including regulation, law and taxes based on the IPCC summary for policy makers. This is what it’s all about. What makes you think otherwise?
I’m not talking about the IPCC’s conclusions on the literature it chose to read, but the use of their Summary for Policy Makers by policy makers. It is very interesting though to see how that significantly that differed from the actual report, and also how many report authors had their material altered and their comments for corrections ignored, such that many took legal action to have their names removed in protest. The SFPM heavily tilted the outcome towards the AGW line, that is known fact, and that’s what the policy makers read, not the actual reports and the large uncertainties expressed and declared in them. It’s this distortion of the ‘science’ and the huge effort to defend it that is so troubling. When it comes to science, it’s pretty fair to say that the stronger the correctness of a hypothesis is, the less it needs defending – it will stand on its own merit.
The point being made is that AGW is a hypothesis that doesn’t stand on its own merit, nor carry the weight of evidence that should be required for policy to be formed based on it. An open letter addressed to the Secretary of the UN asking for the evidence for AGW has gone unanswered. The many requests to Al Gore to openly and freely debate this have all been rejected. If you also say the word ‘scientific consensus’ to say the debate is over, then you’ve effectively lost the argument as no such thing exists or can exist, the two words are a contradiction. Science is never complete, it is always open to debate and new insight and discovery.
Can you imagine Sir Frank Whittle being told that the piston engine is the last word in flight power, and that he is not allowed to carry on developing the jet engine as the consensus doesn’t believe in it? It’s fairly true to say that in so many cases of major and important scientific discovery throughout history, the ‘consensus’ was proved to be completely wrong. Why haven’t we learnt our history lesson?
The only way the AGW hypothesis has survived today is that any and all attempt to demonstrate its absurdness by the rational science-based argument of qualified scientists has been stifled and gagged, whether through the abuse of the peer review process (the evidence of which is in plain sight in the CRUgate emails and from personal testimony of many scientists) or the extremely vociferous and overbearing voice of the environmentalist movement. The sad indictment of our generation is the lack of backbone and moral fibre in our politicians who want to be politically correct and seen to be green and so have succumbed to this pressure. This is why we need the Willis Eschenbachs and Christopher Bookers, to properly investigate the whole affair and bring to light that which the AGW proponents, including the IPCC, Dr Pachauri, UN, Al Gore, Met Office, EPA, CRU, Michael Mann, BBC, APS, RS, etc. etc., and so many governments around the world are striving to hide.
If you really want to read core, actual science on why CO2 doesn’t drive temperature, you would do no better than to read the book “Slaying the Sky Dragon” by Dr Tim Ball (and others). I thoroughly commend it to you and everyone on this discussion thread.]
Dikran,
There you have it. You say that “I rather doubt it as policy is not made on that basis, but on the basis that AGW is considered the most plausible explanation for the observations.”.
In a word, this is not scientific causation, but assumption. There is no proof in “considered”, that’s ‘consensus’ language again.
How can you possibly justify $100Bn of tax payer money handed over on the IPCC conclusion of “considered a plausible explanation”?
Let me translate that statement for you. It means “We don’t know”!!
Hi Dikran
I did not cherry pick stations. I am still looking to determine the exact influence of the increase in carbon dioxide on the atmosphere….
http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/more-carbon-dioxide-is-ok-ok
Contrary to what I initially believed it could be that the net effect of more carbon dioxide is cooling rather than warming. Here is the proof that CO2 is cooling:
http://www.iop.org/EJ/article/0004-637X/644/1/551/64090.web.pdf?request-id=76e1a830-4451-4c80-aa58-4728c1d646ec
(understand: this radiation went sun-earth-moon-earth, follow fig 6, bottom, see peaks back in fig 6 top)
If you understand my method in the report below, I want to exclude clouds and weather.
http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/assessment-of-global-warming-and-global-warming-caused-by-greenhouse-forcings-in-pretoria-south-africa
So far everything I have found, when you exclude clouds and weather, points to minimum temps. declining, exactly the opposite of what you would expect if AGW were true.
So, now, maybe I stumbled on AGC?
Willis, have you any idea?
Henry wrote: “I did not cherry pick stations.” O.K., did you pick them at random then, or did you perform a search for sites with large cooling trends and then conclude “it has actually been cooling a bit on earth…not warming.” (failing to mention that Pretoria and LaPaz are atypical). The latter would be cherry picking; it may be unintentional cherry picking, but that is still what it is.
“I am still looking to determine the exact influence of the increase in carbon dioxide on the atmosphere”
Then you need to look at the global picture, not individual sites. If you look at individual sites, what you see will be dominated by local weather patterns that tell you very little about the global effect of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Best of luck with the analysis.
Dikran says:
If you look at individual sites, what you see will be dominated by local weather patterns that tell you very little about the global effect of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Best of luck with the analysis.
Henry@Dikran
I chose Pretoria because I live here and realised that I must exclude the times when we have clouds and weather.
http://www.letterdash.com/HenryP/assessment-of-global-warming-and-global-warming-caused-by-greenhouse-forcings-in-pretoria-south-africa
La Paz confirmed these results.
They are a bit troubling, not?
It could be that there is a natural explanation. Seeing that max. temps. are rising at the same time when minimum temps are declining, I think there could be a link… probably somewhere high up in the atmosphere.