The irony, it burns. Do you think maybe Gaia is trying to send the U.N. and the delegates a message? One record low was funny, three in a row was hilarious, a new record low for the month of December was ROFL, but now six straight days of record lows during the U.N. COP16 Global Warming conference? That’s galactically inconvenient. The whole month so far has averaged below normal:
Here’s today from Weather Underground, Today’s low was 55°F and the old record was 60°F in 1999:
And here are the other 5 days, and more record lows are forecast, see below:
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The forecast for Cancun is not encouraging:
Existing record lows for the next two days are:
Dec 11 57 °F (2003)
Dec 12 55 °F (2008)
It is likely we will see a full week, possibly 8 days of record lows, and another new all time record low for the month of December is possible also.
Ah.. atmosphere … the continuation of Ocean by other means
There was an insider from CRU,
Who knew exactly what to do,
He collated all the mails,
Showing How Peer Review fails,
Which made Mr Jones very blue
Hmmm – I was certain we went around this before. Didn’t we determine that R.Gates was female? Judging by the faulty logic, I would definitely assume young female (with apologies to the notable female skeptic commenters here).
You can always tell a cAGW believer. But you can’t tell them much. The profile is pretty well established: blind belief, and a complete lack of knowledge about anything in the past (ie. youth). And a youthful naiveté that is almost touching in some ways. Almost.
R. Gates says:
December 10, 2010 at 9:21 am
“One thing that must happen though, if AGW happening is an acceleration of the hydrological cycle. Look for extreme floods, rains, snowfalls, etc.”
It must happen? If there is AGW and if it is an acceleration of the hydrological cycle?
Not much of a hypothesis you have there. Is that the best AGW can do? I will treat it as a hypothesis and see what can be made of it.
I lived through the 1,000 year flood in St. Louis in 1973. Then I lived through its child in 1982, also a 1,000 year jobbie. Then I lived through its grandchild in 1992, also a 1,000 year jobbie. Thousand year floods are hard to take when they arrive every 10 years or so. Since 1992, there has not been so much as a 100 year flood in St. Louis, not even a 10 year flood. It has been 18 years. What happened? In my humble opinion, the number of serious floods and similar events in North America has been amazingly low for twenty to thirty years. Will you count this as evidence against AGW? Why or why not? If not, why do you discuss such events at all? And what would count as disconfirming evidence for AGW – a series of negative model runs?
Can we book this circus in May here in South India? We could do with some “public air conditioning” in that period as it is usually damn hot then: between 35C and 40C with 80% humidity.
I am not sure if we have enough 5 star hotels though.
tallbloke says:
December 10, 2010 at 5:32 pm @ur momisugly RGates
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That was classic! Thanks.
Chris
Do these records go back far? Before the time of Pancho Villa? It doesn’t seem right that there can be so many broken records. It is a long record?
Karma baby…. Karma!
I really wanted snow… but that was too much I guess.
I have torn down my birdfeeder. I have uprooted the two magnificant oaks in my back yard. I have constructed a pool complete with a wave machine and a sandy beach, all covered by a Dysan dome with radiant heating. The rare Cancun penguin must be saved. One of only two penguins adapted to live in tropical temperture {the Galapogos penguin is the other}, it is quite rare and quite small, only a foot tall. It is beyond endangered, indeed nearly extinct. I hope I have built its last refuge. This cold wave may be its death knell; it must have warm weather to survive. If the esteemed delagates to the Cancun conference will search for and find specimens and bring them to me, I pledge to do all in my power to preserve the last remnants of this diminuative species. The task I give the delegates is very difficult, much like catching a snipe {the American Snipe is a real bird, look it up}, but the rewards are great. Think about how you could help preserve the Cancun penguin, one of the rarest birds in the world. Some my say my sacrifice is too great [I miss the oaks already], but no sacrifice is too great if you are an environmentalist.
Jeremy says:
December 10, 2010 at 7:55 am
What is more noteworthy is the huge temperature swings in an area close to the ocean. You usually don’t expect that. It’s going from ~50F to ~77F through the day, that’s like a temperature swing in a desert.
Maybe it was one of Michelle’s food deserts.
Weather Underground:
“Life-giving rains have returned over the past two months to Earth’s greatest rainforest–the Amazon–after it experienced its second 100-year drought in five years this year. The record drought began in April, during the usual start to the region’s dry season, when rainfall less than 75% of average fell over much of the southern Amazon (Figure 2.) The drought continued through September, and by October, when the rainy season finally arrived, the largest northern tributary of the Amazon River–the Rio Negro–had dropped to thirteen feet (four meters) below its usual dry season level. This was its lowest level since record keeping began in 1902. The low water mark is all the more remarkable since the Rio Negro caused devastating flooding in 2009, when it hit an all-time record high, 53 ft (16 m) higher than the 2010 record low. The 2010 drought is similar in intensity and scope to the region’s previous 100-year drought, which hit the Amazon in 2005, according to Brazil’s National Institute of Space Research. Severe fires burned throughout the Amazon in both 2005 and 2010, leading to declarations of states of emergencies.”
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1705
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“Climate change is causing wildfires to burn more fiercely, pumping more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than previously thought, according to a new study to be published in Nature Geosciences this week. This is the first study to reveal that fires in the Alaskan interior – an area spanning 18.5 million hectares – have become more severe in the past 10 years, and have released much more carbon into the atmosphere than was stored by the region’s forests over the same period.”
http://www.uoguelph.ca/news/2010/12/post_209.html
Have at it….
Terrorists are being brought to justice in civil courts these days…
Al Gore and the global warming alarmists such as left wing politicians, pseudo scientists, journalists, the Hollywood idiots, have been inflicting psychological terrorism upon a whole generation of children all over the world for the last 15 years.
These charlatans should be brought to justice as the perpetrators of the biggest scam in the history of this planet.
The social,financial and psychological damages that they caused are beyond comprehension.
No criminal organization in history has come even close to having such a desastruous impact on so many people, for such a long time, and make so much money in the process.
They should not be permitted to get away with it.
Hundred of billions have been wasted on a fraud, social and economical policies have been altered based on a fraud….the moral authors of this fraud should be in jail for the rest of their lives and their fortune seized.
Murray Grainger says:
December 10, 2010 at 8:37 am
I guess you have to be Brit to rhyme “flawed” and “adored”!
😀
stan stendera,
Please tell us you’re being sarcastic, which seems likely. If so, fine parody on the eco-lunatics.
Otherwise, who annointed you as the arbiter of which species should exist, and which species should not survive because of outside [human] intervention.
Should we protect the smallpox virus from eradication? It deserves to live, too.
Because Gaia loves diversity and all.
“Illuminating content. I don’t know why I bother with this site.” – John Doyle
And vice versa. It’s mutual!
“Mike says:
December 10, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Think globally.
“NASA: Hottest November on record,”
Mike, can you please give me a good explanation for the huge discrepancy between GISS and Hadcrut3? The November value for Hadcrut3 is not out yet, however its October value of 0.392 is the 9th highest of the last 15 years. See http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/hadcrut3gl.txt
However the GISS value for October of 63 is its 3rd highest of the last 15 years! I used http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/tabledata/GLB.Ts+dSST.txt
And when the November data is posted on Hadcrut3, I expect it to be one of the lowest November values of the last 15 years, but we will have to wait and see. But for now, can you give a good reason why October was so different between the two?
Ok, first I blew Cheerio’s all over my keyboard, now I have spit up coffee all over myself. After reading this posting and some of the wittiest comments I think I have ever read, I am in pretty bad shape….
Attention: I’m seeking legal counsel in the morning and holding you all responsible!
– Cheer’s my friends! .. and enjoy the show .. I sure am
About all the “warmest year” stuff; All temps post 1989 are inflated by 1.9°C. That’s the inevitable conclusion I get from this chart:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/images/uploads/ball120610-2.jpg
(which comes from
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/30752).
So I guess 1998 and 2010 are about 223rd on the all-time “hot list”. Give or take.
😉
WOW! … just WOW! … An absolutely scathing response! … Thank you so very much TALLBLOKE for that link! A MUST read for anyone interested in the topics presented by R.Gates … And, R.Gates, sorry man, you lose yet again…. next….
@ur momisugly Brian H
Link to your image says “You do not have permission to access….”
I believe you are correct sir! … my bad (faulty memory, getting old). I apologize to R.Gates, when I should in fact said “.. sorry MISS, you lose yet again…. next….
Just more evidence that ALL of the increase in CO2 is in FACT … NOT … from humans!
JER0ME says:
Could you enlighten us as to what to look for to prove AGW is not happening? Please? Pretty please? It is a serious question, but one that I have never seen answered
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Remove all the other known climate forcings such as Milankovitch cycles, ENSO, PDO, AMO, NAO, solar cycles, etc. and if you’ve got nothing left, then there would be no need for AGW…that’s how you could disprove it…or at least remove the need for it. Funny thing…GCM’s did that and they did have something left and many (but not all) of current climate dynamics fit pretty well such as polar amplification, cooling of the stratosphere, troposphereic warming, acceleration of the hydrological cycle, lower year to year levels of Arctic Sea ice, etc. making it more likely than not (actually, far more likely) that the 40% increase in CO2 is affecting the climate.
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u.k.(us) says:
December 10, 2010 at 5:39 pm
R. Gates says:
December 10, 2010 at 9:21 am
……………….”One thing that must happen though, if AGW happening is an acceleration of the hydrological cycle. Look for extreme floods, rains, snowfalls, etc.”
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Which would be different, how?
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Not sure of the context of your question. An acceleration would be a change of velocity measureed over a certain time. EVERY time CO2 rises in Earth’s history, the hydrological cycle accelerates (as CO2 is the fuel for that very acceleration). It usually takes millions of years and is a negative-feedback mechanism to keep CO2 in check. The accelerated hydrological cycle weathers rock that takes CO2 out of the atmosphere and deposits into the ocean. What humans have done is essentially pour an incredible amount of this CO2 “hydrological accelerant” into the atmosphere in a short amount time. Exactly how sensitive the earth is to this is the central question to the AGW issue.
I guess it’s obvious what would happen if they held their confab in Hell…
R. Gates says:
December 10, 2010 at 9:39 pm
I appreciate taking me seriously.
I was not truly clear. What events in the real word, not in any models, would prove AGW is not happening? I think there is a general distrust of models among sceptics, and for very good reasons (mostly bias confirmation).
We are constantly informed that certain events are evidence of AGW. You imply the same quite strongly. What events, or lack of events, would disprove the theory (however little it may deserve the term) of AGW?