The irony, it burns. Do you think maybe Gaia is trying to send the U.N. and the delegates a message? One record low was funny, three in a row was hilarious, a new record low for the month of December was ROFL, but now six straight days of record lows during the U.N. COP16 Global Warming conference? That’s galactically inconvenient. The whole month so far has averaged below normal:
Here’s today from Weather Underground, Today’s low was 55°F and the old record was 60°F in 1999:
And here are the other 5 days, and more record lows are forecast, see below:
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The forecast for Cancun is not encouraging:
Existing record lows for the next two days are:
Dec 11 57 °F (2003)
Dec 12 55 °F (2008)
It is likely we will see a full week, possibly 8 days of record lows, and another new all time record low for the month of December is possible also.
Al Gore the Exposed Racketeer
You know Briffa and Trenberth and Wigley and Hansen,
Monbiot and Lovelock and Phil Jones and Revkin.
But do you recall
The most egregious swindler of all?
Al Gore the Exposed Racketeer
Had a very greedy scheme,
And if he could have used it,
You would truly want to scream.
All of the other scammers
Used his ploy for their own gains;
Would not admit their misdeeds
As they put us all in chains.
Then one icy Copenhagen day,
Skeptics came to say:
“Climategate really sank this ship,
There’ll be no agreement signed this trip!”
Then how the skeptics delighted,
As they blogged about with glee,
“Al Gore the Exposed Raceteer,
You can kiss our big hiney.”
If we could generate electricity from irony and hypocrisy, the Warmists could power the world for years to come.
GISS Nov 10 0.73
OK I can only comment on Sweden and Norway
In Sweden this was one of the 6 coldest Novembers in 110 years according to SMHI. Just checked SMHI (Swedens NOAA), the figures from GISS are wrong, terribly wrong, 1 to 1.5 degree C to high. Norway (second coolest on record according to YR.no) is worse, 2-3 degree C to high. This can not be an error, this is something else, GISS please!
John Doyle says:
December 10, 2010 at 8:54 am
“I don’t know why I bother with this site.”
That’s not surprising. We’re still trying to figure out if you know anything at all.
R. Gates says:
December 10, 2010 at 1:08 pm
“….I think some AGW skeptics should get beyond a simple linear way of thinking of the effects that the 40% increase in CO2 could be having on global weather patterns…..”
AND
R. Gates says:
December 10, 2010 at 12:59 pm
“….Mike, fortunately you’re simplistic way of looking at the effects of a 40% rise in CO2 is not followed by the thousands of scientists studying this around the world….”
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I think that it is YOU sir that “should get beyond a simple linear way of thinking of the effects that the 40% increase in CO2 could be having on global weather patterns.”
AND
I also think sir, that YOUR “simplistic way of looking at the effects of a 40% rise in CO2 is not followed by the (at least a thousand) scientists studying this around the world.” See http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/08/shredding-the-climate-consensus-myth-more-than-1000-international-scientists-dissent-over-man-made-global-warming-claims-challenge-un-ipcc-gore/
But thanks as always for stopping by to help us fine tune our arguments.
There once was a Ms. Hedegaard
who in Denmark was more than a bore.
She invented a scheme:
all the scammers’ wet dream,
but the taxpayers’ wallets got sore.
She lost more than 7 billion bucks.
And the scammers drove money in trucks.
And the EU said: Hey!
This old lady’s OK!
Now she’s leading the climate change chucks!
So she sits in Cancun and she serves
Mammon, which she thinks that she deserves.
All our money she spends
for her climate change friends
and she digs deep into our reserves.
She is making a lot of fat friends
with the money she recklessly spends.
Consequences aside,
she is the perfect aide
to the scum of the earth and their ends.
Mike, Bob and others who provided lists of the events which define the Gore Effect — thanks!
I’ve read comments on pro-agw sites, and their huddled masses are spouting how this is entirely consistent with “global climate distruption” (or whatever lame appelation has been attached to it this week.)
whatever do they put in that brew to so thoroughly destroy the ability of their followers to think critically?
Re JEM says: December 10, 2010 at 9:24 am
No money necessary. How do you thing the cabal is doing this? Not all weather satellites are read-only.. :p
But given the remarkable knack the Gore effect demonstrates for generating widespread cooling, it would probably cost much less than $100bn or 1.5% of GDP a year to keep these delegates on the road cooling down previously hot spots. May also keep them from causing any more trouble back in their home countries as well.
[snip – off color language – Anthony]
What the warmies have is a religion. Religions are based on non disprovable hypotheses. For instance, “no matter what the weather does, it is proof of global warming.”
In regards to the general acceleration of the hydrological cycle with increases in CO2, I would suggest a few links:
http://www.eos.ubc.ca/~mjelline/453website/eosc453/E_prints/AnnRev.28.1.611.pdf
http://www.karst.edu.cn/carbon/rockd.htm
http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/ritter/geog101/textbook/earth_system/hydrologic_cycle.html
And in regards to whether such a phenomenon is occurring with our current CO2 levels being at the highest levels in at least 800,000 years, you might go here:
http://www.umass.edu/newsoffice/newsreleases/articles/104895.php
http://explorations.ucsd.edu/Research_Highlights/2010/Mar_Apr/argo/
Or simply ignore the science and continue to make up little limrics instead…(which is probably much more fun)…so…
There once was a skeptic from Hell (that’s in Norway)
Who pryed open a scientist’s mail
Inside he did lift
Unremarkable script
Sending some down a fantasy trail
latitude says:
December 10, 2010 at 2:19 pm
R. Gates says:
December 10, 2010 at 9:21 am
One thing that must happen though, if AGW happening is an acceleration of the hydrological cycle. Look for extreme floods, rains, snowfalls, etc.
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Do you really think that’s happening right now Gates?
Do you really think our planet is that unstable?
That this little bitty rise in CO2 is really doing that?
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Yes, I think it is more likely than not that the earth is responding to a rise in CO2 the same way it has millions of years…with an acceleration of the hydrological cycle.
The term “unstable” is not very scientific. If you live in an area that gets a lot of earthquakes, you might feel the earth to be very unstable. Looking at the earth’s past, we see long periods of relative stability in the climate punctuated by periods of rapid change when many species go extinct (we seem to be going through one such period now).
The 40% rise in CO2 in the last few hundred years is hardly tiny. It has risen to a level not seen in 800,000 years. We still are not certain of how sensitive the earth is to such a rapid rise (geologically speaking) in CO2. If the earth responds the way it has to previous periods of high CO2 levels, we should see general global warming and an acceleration of the hyrdological cycle. There is mounting evidence that this is exactly what is occurring.
The irony, it burns. Do you think maybe Gaia is trying to send the U.N. and the delegates a message?
Do you think they care? Demolish the US economy or ban water – if it “sounds right” it obviously is right.
It’s like watching 1780’s France via the internet. The Aristocracy prance in Cancun while the commoners are left to “eat cake”. Lock and load boys and girls – these people won’t stop until they are made to stop.
Blue helmet resistance to a .357 – now there’s a scientific paper I could happily propagate.
R. Gates says: {December 10, 2010 at 9:21 am}
“At the same time we are seeing record lows in Cancun, we’ve been seeing record warmth is areas of the north like Greenland”
What are record lows for Cancun and what’s record warmth for Greenland do not really mean it is actually cold in Cancun and warm in Greenland. In fact I wouldn’t speak to any temperature in Greenland right now as “warm”. Attaching words like warmth to Greenland are purposely misleading. Perhaps you would give us the actual temperatures there.
I once heard someone suggest that the human mind was device designed to collapse probability wave fronts (something to do with the strong anthropic principle, IIRC). Perhaps climate/weather is simply a probability field and all those “minds” in Cancun are actually responsible for the weather turning out on the brass monkeys side.
Al Gore = Joe Btfsplk
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&expIds=25657,28062,28066&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=joe+btfsplk&cp=11&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=b88CTamJPMP_lgfP0fn9Bw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=2&sqi=2&ved=0CCsQsAQwAQ&biw=800&bih=458
It is not only cold in Cancun – The telegraph reports that December 2010 may replace 1981 as the coldest December in the UK on record! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/consumertips/8192386/8-million-hit-by-higher-bills-as-coldest-December-in-century-predicted.html
John Doyle says:
December 10, 2010 at 8:54 am
See ya!
R. Gates says:
December 10, 2010 at 9:21 am
What’s more inconvenient is the causes behind the cool weather in Cancun. High pressure over the Arctic has once more (like last winter) opened up a pipeline of cold air to the south. At the same time we are seeing record lows in Cancun, we’ve been seeing record warmth is areas of the north like Greenland. Are these related? Probably. Are they related to AGW warming? Possibly. Cold air in areas not used to it is NOT a sign that AGW is not happening…far from it. I think some AGW skeptics should get beyond a simple linear way of thinking of the effects that the 40% increase in CO2 could be having on global weather patterns. One thing that must happen though, if AGW happening is an acceleration of the hydrological cycle. Look for extreme floods, rains, snowfalls, etc.
Could you enlighten us as to what to look for to prove AGW is not happening? Please? Pretty please? It is a serious question, but one that I have never seen answered.
R. Gates says:
December 10, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Or simply ignore the science and continue to make up little limrics instead…(which is probably much more fun)…so…
Given the quality (ahem) of your limerick writing, I can see why you want to get serious on our friday night knockabout.
Don’t give up the day job. 😉
There is a young man called R. Gates
Who doesn’t have many mates
So he hangs out round here
While we’re swilling our beer
On and on, and on he prates!
Lighten up guy.
R. Gates says:
December 10, 2010 at 4:47 pm
And in regards to whether such a phenomenon is occurring with our current CO2 levels being at the highest levels in at least 800,000 years, you might go here:
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Why 800,000? What an odd place to start counting from.
Why not a million? too inconvenient? 😉
Gates you know that CO2 levels have been as low as around 180, and as high as over 7000. What happened?
At 180 the temperatures went up.
At 7000 the temperatures went down.
There has never been run away global warming.
A CO2 is a CO2, there’s no such thing as a man-made CO2.
R. Gates says:
December 10, 2010 at 9:21 am
……………….”One thing that must happen though, if AGW happening is an acceleration of the hydrological cycle. Look for extreme floods, rains, snowfalls, etc.”
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Which would be different, how?
Rgates,
I suggest you go to the link you provided and read the last comment from ‘Guest’.
http://explorations.ucsd.edu/Research_Highlights/2010/Mar_Apr/argo/
he has saved me the trouble, by expressing exactly what I was thinking as I read the article.
Can I drink my beer in peace now please?
Thank you.