Now that California’s Prop 23 to suspend the AB32 global warming law has failed, you get some real clarity from the players. If you ever doubted that our current crop of “save the planet” bureaucrats think they are above answering to the very citizens that pay their salary, this quote should put any doubt you may have had to rest.
From public TV station KQED’s “climate watch” blog:
“They didn’t know who they were messing with,” said Mary Nichols, when the first numbers came in from the polls.
Wow. Just wow. Hubris maximus. Lady, you need a reality check.
Read the holier than thou hubris yourself here. Read here why Prop 23 was felled by feelings, and not by facts.
Here’s the effervescent Mary Nichols dealing with CARB’s DiplomaGate:
The Orange County Register reported:
Cover-up taints costly diesel policy
A year ago, high officials of the California Air Resources Board learned that the author of a statistical study on diesel soot effects had falsified his academic credentials.
The researcher, Hien Tran, acknowledged the deception and agreed to be demoted, but after his data were given another peer review, they remained the basis of highly controversial regulations that will cost owners of trucks, buses and other diesel-powered machinery millions of dollars to upgrade their engines. The Tran study concluded that diesel “particulate matter” was responsible for about 1,000 additional deaths each year.
Now more fallout from that “landmark diesel law” comes last month:
BREAKING: SFO Chronicle says “Faulty science behind state’s landmark diesel law” – an error of 340%
I have to ask: Ms. Nichols, do you have any idea of what you or your agency is doing? Because I gotta tell you, CARB looks wholly incompetent from this vantage point.
h/t to Russ Steele at NC Media Watch
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DesertYote says:
November 3, 2010 at 1:17 pm
See what happens when you allow Marxist educators around the children for too long? An entire states who’s population has just proven they are incapable of rational thought.
Lets be fair not all of the population is registered to vote, and of that registered number probably 55% voted. of that 55% not all would have voted on this issues. Of the subset of the subset of the subset of the population that actually voted on this prop, 60% proved they are incapable of rational thought.
I am California born and raised, but I am so glad that graduate school took me elsewhere. Before he passed away a decade ago, my uncle left a productive family business making alfalfa pellets for the dairies in Tulare county. Then a few years ago the CARB stuck its nose in and made it so expensive to continue running the hay grinder that my aunt sold the equipment and closed the business, laying off 10 emplyees. The reason the CARB gave: it produced too much dust!
Prop 26 passed and will make it virtually impossible to fund any AB32 activity. Gonna be fun to watch.
Let me also say that I would prefer that California drown in it’s own debt. I live here and I want to see that bitter pill swallowed whole. The reason is the Democrats have ruled the representative bodies in California for a long long time here, they have spent and spent and spent forever. They gave collective bargaining power to public employees (if that isn’t a conflict of interest, there’s no such thing) who then take their big-labor coffers and spend it against anything that goes against them or bond measures that might bring them funds. I’ve been in this state since 1984 and I haven’t seen a single school construction proposal NOT FINANCED with BONDS. Just think about that for a moment, Every single school construction/addition/building proposal that I’ve witnessed just from southern California was paid for with a credit card. This in the wealthiest state in the nation.
IT IS SICKENING. Why does the wealthiest state in the union have to float bonds to pay for educational upgrades? Because of all the waste and corruption, period. Then of course when the dot-com bubble burst, all that spending totally backfired on the state, suddenly their revenue dropped dramatically and their expenses for all the bond measures started coming due. So now the state started borrowing like crazy to pay for it’s own debt. It’s been a slow coast into a storm since then, but it is rapidly picking up downhill speed.
And there’s always that “big one” earthquake out there. Surely our honorable senators and assemblymen must have put away some cash to deal with that…
Yeah, it’s a joke.
Is the Girlie Governor waiting for green jobs like a previous Austrian politician waited for his panzers?
I can’t help but be reminded of something a character in the movie Star Wars III says as the Emperor cements his control of the Republic.
“So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause”
Padmé Amidala – Revenge of the Sith
@Joe Kirklin,
“Lets be fair not all of the population is registered to vote, and of that registered number probably 55% voted. of that 55% not all would have voted on this issues. Of the subset of the subset of the subset of the population that actually voted on this prop, 60% proved they are incapable of rational thought.”
This was a very low turnout, as is usual in non-presidential elections. Population in California is approximately 38 million. Approximately 7 million votes were cast for/against Prop 23. Roughly the same number, 7 million, were cast in the Governor’s ballot. With a No vote on Prop 23 of approximately 61 percent, that’s 4.2 million votes that decided the matter.
This is representative democracy at its finest. Barely more that 10 percent of the population making decisions to impact the entire 100 percent.
Apparently Jenny Oropez won 28th District of the state Senate, despite dying on October 20th.
DaveE.
Easiest way to dupe your politician is to point out that there’s a more prominent and popular, and therefor supposedly apparent more powerful, politician that already is on board.
If your politician happens to be the king of the hill already, well you just give “it” the option of either or looking like a complete moron in front of everyone, by of course using all the tricks of the trade.
How many really knows that most propositions are already, pretty much if not completely, ready made and handed to the politicians in a nice frame so to speak by your bestests of friends that only have your best interest at heart the hordes of troll-lobbyists. I bet there were about 23 propositions for proposition 23. The politician just choosed the one that seemed most preferable that day for the politicians own career as per usual.
It’s not called a proposition because it’s a proposition to the voter but because it is a proposition to the politician. o_O
Sad yes, but a certain sign that the climate debate is a long way from being finished, and the charalatans and their useful fools will continue making their point using appeals to emotion while avoiding the science. The US as a country saw a remarkable swing in the electorate’s opinions yesterday, though they were driven more by dissatisfaction with the economy than by issues like global warming. That swing doesn’t seem to have really hit home yet with Californians who seem oblivious to the direct effects they are having on their own economy. One wonders if it shall become a self sustaining cycle in which the realists find jobs in other states, leaving behind a population increasingly comprised of sheep determined to rid the earth of CO2 while wondering why the grass doesn’t grow anymore and where everyone else went.
joe
November 3, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Lets be fair not all of the population is registered to vote, and of that registered number probably 55% voted. of that 55% not all would have voted on this issues. Of the subset of the subset of the subset of the population that actually voted on this prop, 60% proved they are incapable of rational thought.
#
I stand corrected.
Hey….ADC pulls out of California
Quiet guys, I hope to pick up a cheap condo near Venice Beach when I retire in 3 years…., so with a mass exodos of folks, massive unemployment, and no jobs, Ipredict the price will be 50% lower than it is now……s sad for Californians……great for guys who love the sunshine state…the beaches, and the tourism.
As a Texan who was twice stationed in California (San Diego and Monterey), I gotta admit I love the state. It will be very interesting to watch the contrast in the next few years as I predict Texas continues to grow and prosper, and California continues its slide into mediocrity. What a shame.
Maybe it’s not all bad, in a few years they may be able to film the new Mad Max extravaganza there. Australia is too pretty.
To those thinking Californians (the few who might be left), please rest assured that we in the sorry State of the once-United Kingdom, can empathise with your agonies.
We, too, are being ground down by wind-mill touting, nuclear-denying coal-hating greenies who hold the levers of power. Now we have just found out that our most elite troops are going to come under the command of “cheese-eating surrender monkeys!”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/8103057/British-combat-troops-to-come-under-French-command.html
We voted out the last spendthrift, traitorous government only to find that the one we have elected is even worse. They have sold out to the EUSSR completely and we, the People, have no recourse whatsoever.
Stephen Brown says:
November 3, 2010 at 3:30 pm
Since when were Britain & France like minded countries?
I have nothing against the Kermits but we don’t think like them & they don’t think like us!
DaveE.
Can someone point out to the ugly batch that she is employed to serve those she obviously considers an enemy.
Not everyone in California is deaf and dumb when it comes to climate policy. Solyndra, a Silicon Valley maker of solar panels opened a new $733 million robotic fabrication facility using $535 million in federal loan guarantees seven weeks ago. Today they announced they would shut down their older factory, lay off those workers and cut their previous production level. Such a deal. The feds pay two-thirds of the cost of your brand new factory so you can be more efficient, lay off workers, and cut down your production.
Meanwhile, venture capital investment in solar panels plummeted because the Chinese, using older technology, and subsidies from their government, have captured such a huge portion of the market that they can sell panels much cheaper.
Aren’t we blessed to have a great and giving government operating unfettered by market economics? They deserve a ten-day vacation with friends anywhere in the world they want to go. Maybe we can budget $2 billion for a nice junket. Take that, Oprah!
Note to the new Congress. I have some great ideas on where you can cut expenditures.
Anoneumouse said: “Hey….ADC pulls out of California.”
What on earth does that mean? Some kind of inside California reference?
It appears to me that the voters in California will trash their own economy far more effectively than the next series of megathrust earthquakes. Those businesses that do relocate out of California will benefit from avoiding two disasters, a clear and present danger in Edmund Gerald Brown and another Loma Prieta to come.
Probably “I’ll be back” Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger voted Democrat, so get out whilst you can. California is Californicated now.
ab32 is still in place. AGW is still in charge in California. Even though these people want to destroy the California populations livelihood the people have voted for the destruction.
James Barker says:
November 3, 2010 at 3:19 pm
“Maybe it’s not all bad, in a few years they may be able to film the new Mad Max extravaganza there. Australia is too pretty.”
Or some interesting reality TV along Mad Max lines.
I am back in the states for a few months, and while drinking coffee one afternoon (in Texas) I read a (free from the shop) NYT piece on this prop. a week prior to election day. What struck me about the article was not the expected bias, but the NON-mention of any substance on the actual matter at hand one way or another (just the same Texas vs. California nonsense, no mention of energy tax relief or seemingly reasonable state umeployment quotas, let alone ANY mention of the relation of the actual energy policy to the AGW hypothesis, nor any empirical questions regarding that hypothesis [of course]). The level of non-information was striking (when disinformation fails, this is always a good back-up). If you read the (final) ACM, the fix is even deeper in OZ. In the California context, I suspect that at heart, many detractors of Prop. 23 really do not care about the impact on people’s standard of living, as those who need to work hard to live are disproportionately. There is a highly malignant, anti-humanist elitism at work here that is actually as repulsive as the intellectual dishonesty surropunding these matters.
left out “affected” in penultimate sentence.