An Open Letter to Dr. Michael Mann

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

Dear Dr. Mann:

I just read your piece in the Washington Post.

First, let me say that I disagree entirely with Cuccinelli’s legalistic approach. It doesn’t seem like the right way to achieve the desired result, that of shining the merciless light of publicity on your actions.

Figure 1. The Merciless Light of Publicity

On the other hand, your opinion piece published in the Washington Post contains a number of omissions, misrepresentations, exaggerations, and misstatements of fact.

[As a digression, for those who don’t know who Dr. Michael Mann is, he is the man who wrote the paper that established the “Hockey Stick” as the icon of misguided climate science. He then used his position on the IPCC to promote his own work, and suppressed contrary views. In one swipe he threw out all evidence that there were warmer periods in the past. No Medieval Warm Period. No Little Ice Age. Here’s that famous and most bogus of graphs, which has been reproduced hundreds of thousands of times …

Figure 2. The “Hockeystick” graph.

Unfortunately, his math was wrong, and the method he used mines for “hockey stick” shapes and will pull them out of random data, so the graph turned out to be both meaningless and totally misleading. End of digression]

So without further ado, Dr. Mann, here are my comments on your opinion piece. I have put your entire article from the Washington Post, without deletions, in bold italic.

Get the anti-science bent out of politics

As a scientist, I shouldn’t have a stake in the upcoming midterm elections, but unfortunately, it seems that I — and indeed all my fellow climate scientists — do.

If this is a surprise to you, it should not be, and not just for climate scientists. Cast your mind back President Eisenhower’s farewell speech in 1960, wherein he said (emphasis mine):

Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present — and is gravely to be regarded.

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

You are funded by the government, and are a salaried member of that scientific-technological elite that Eisenhower warned us about. Why on earth would you think that you would not have a stake in the election? The problem is the opposite – you have far too large a stake in the election, since climate science funding comes solely because the government is willing to back your ideas. As a result, a change in administrations might dry up your funding. You have a huge stake in the elections, and it is curious you want to claim otherwise. You are fighting like mad to keep the funding coming, so don’t pretend that you “shouldn’t have a stake” in the elections.

And regarding the elections, you have a huge political problem. Your science is so shabby and weak, and your claims are so apocalyptic, shrill, and far-fetched, that the people are no longer buying your line of patter. Climate change is at the very bottom of things that the electorate thinks are important … which seems to drive you guys nuts. Because of this, you and other climate scientists like Jim Hansen have become political activists, fighting like crazy to make sure the right people are elected to keep the money spigots turned wide open … just like Eisenhower warned.

So please, spare us the vapors about scientists having a stake in politics. You are in it up to your ears.

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has threatened that, if he becomes chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, he will launch what would be a hostile investigation of climate science. The focus would be on e-mails stolen from scientists at the University of East Anglia in Britain last fall that climate-change deniers have falsely claimed demonstrate wrongdoing by scientists, including me. Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.) may do the same if he takes over a committee on climate change and energy security.

Deniers? Anyone who is still using that emotion-laden, infantile term is deliberately being antagonistic. In any case, we have very real reasons to suspect you of wrongdoing. You don’t exactly show so well in things like the Climategate emails … see below.

My employer, Penn State University, exonerated me after a thorough investigation of my e-mails in the East Anglia archive. Five independent investigations in Britain and the United States, and a thorough recent review by the Environmental Protection Agency, also have cleared the scientists of accusations of impropriety.

Forgive my bluntness, but that is absolute hogwash. Hand-picked groups of your myopic friends have gotten together, consulted the auguries, studiously looked away, and declared you and Phil and Gene and the rest to be pure as the driven snow. But not one of the “thorough investigations” has spoken to one single person other than you and your friends and supporters. How thorough is a “thorough investigation” that only interviews your friends? “Exonerated”? Don’t make me laugh. You haven’t even been investigated, much less exonerated.

Nonetheless, Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is investigating my previous employer, the University of Virginia, based on the stolen e-mails. A judge rejected his initial subpoena, finding that Cuccinelli had failed to provide objective evidence of wrongdoing. Undeterred, Cuccinelli appealed the decision to the Virginia Supreme Court and this week issued a new civil subpoena.

What could Issa, Sensenbrenner and Cuccinelli possibly think they might uncover now, a year after the e-mails were published?

Well, they might uncover the truth contained in the emails that haven’t been published. For example, you stand accused of conspiring to delete emails that showed you and your friends trying to prevent IPCC Review Comments from being made public.

Did you delete those emails? We may never know, since your good buddies in the “thorough investigation” DIDN’T EVEN LOOK TO SEE IF THE ACCUSATION WAS TRUE. They never looked through either your emails, or the CRU emails, to see if you had deleted emails as you were asked to do by Phil Jones. They never looked for your answer to Gene.

As you may not want to recall, in the Climategate emails, Phil wrote to you about the AR4 review emails, as follows:

Phil Jones wrote:

Mike,

Can you delete any emails you may have had with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise. He’s not in at the moment – minor family crisis.

Can you also email Gene [Wahl] and get him to do the same?  I don’t have his new email address.

We will be getting Caspar to do likewise.

I see that CA claim they discovered the 1945 problem in the Nature paper!!

Cheers

Phil

Those emails, Dr. Mann, were the subject of a Freedom of Information Act request. You replied:

Hi Phil,

laughable that CA would claim to have discovered the problem. They would have run off to the Wall Street Journal for an exclusive were that to have been true.

I’ll contact Gene [Wahl] about this ASAP. His new email is: xxxx@yahoo.com

talk to you later,

mike

Now you may have a reasonable innocuous explanation for that interchange. I don’t see one. I see Phil advising you to break the law and delete emails that were the subject of an FOI request, and you saying “I’ll contact Gene about this ASAP”. When your friends were doing their “thorough investigation”, it is curious that they NEVER ASKED TO SEE the other emails in the chain. Like for example the email you said you would send to Gene to tell him to delete the emails. Did you send it?

And did you delete your emails? The “thorough investigation” never investigated that either, they didn’t even try to answer that important question.

So please don’t give us your sanctimonious posing as though you were shown to be innocent. The “thorough investigations” run by your friends have not determined your innocence, or the lack thereof – since they haven’t even tried to look at the evidence, how could they determine anything? So the jury is still out on the question.

But the facts we do have do not look good for you in the slightest.

If you had any actual evidence that you were innocent, I’m sure you would have given it to the investigators … funny how none of the five investigations have come up with a single fact or email or document to exonerate you in this question. As far as we know, you didn’t write back to Phil later and say something like “I can’t delete emails, that would be unethical and possibly illegal”. You wrote back to say that you would pass on the email deletion order to Gene … and you want us to believe that your hands are clean? Sorry, my friend, I’m like the Red Queen, I can believe six impossible things before breakfast, but that one is just too big to swallow.

The truth is that they don’t expect to uncover anything. Instead, they want to continue a 20-year assault on climate research, questioning basic science and promoting doubt where there is none.

The truth is, your objections have nothing to do with climate research. You are simply worried what an inquiry might find out, otherwise the idea of an investigation wouldn’t bother you a bit. But since all the indications are that you and others conspired to subvert the IPCC process , and then conspired (as shown in the Climategate emails) to cover it up, I can understand your all-pervading unease …

Cuccinelli, in fact, rests his case largely on discredited claims that Rep. Joe Barton (R-Tex.) made during hearings in 2005 at which he attacked me and my fellow researchers. Then-Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (R-N.Y.) had the courage and character to challenge Barton’s attacks. We need more political leaders like him today.

Discredited claims? A bit more specificity would go a long way here, although I don’t expect it of you. What claims were “discredited”? As a close observer at the time, I did not see that a single claim against you was “discredited”. Quite the opposite, several of your claims were discredited, and McIntyre’s claims were totally upheld.

We have lived through the pseudo-science that questioned the link between smoking cigarettes and lung cancer, and the false claims questioning the science of acid rain and the hole in the ozone layer. The same dynamics and many of the same players are still hard at work, questioning the reality of climate change.

I’m not sure what your point is here. You seem to be saying that there have been false claims made by shady scientists in the past, and so that makes you right. How does that work again?

The basic physics and chemistry of how carbon dioxide and other human-produced greenhouse gases trap heat in the lower atmosphere have been understood for nearly two centuries. Overloading the atmosphere with carbon dioxide from burning fossil fuels is heating the planet, shrinking the Arctic ice cap, melting glaciers and raising sea levels. It is leading to more widespread drought, more frequent heat waves and more powerful hurricanes. Even without my work, or that of the entire sub-field of studying past climates, scientists are in broad agreement on the reality of these changes and their near-certain link to human activity.

Scientists are in broad agreement that the earth has been slowly warming for about three centuries. We don’t know why, which should give us a clue about the depth of our understanding of the climate.

More to the point, there is no agreement about such basic, rudimentary, fundamental, all-important questions as the sign and size of the cloud feedbacks. A change of 2% in cloud cover would wipe out any CO2 effect. Since we don’t understand the clouds, that most basic and critically important part of climate science, the idea that we understand why the earth is currently warming, or the idea that we can forecast climate a hundred years in advance, is hubris of the first order. We don’t know why it warmed in Medieval times. We don’t know why it warmed in Roman times. We don’t know why it has warmed since the “Little Ice Age”. We don’t understand the climate, and you folks’ claims that you do understand it well enough to make century-long forecasts just makes rational, reasonable people point and laugh.

Burying our heads in the sand would leave future generations at the mercy of potentially dangerous changes in our climate. The only sure way to mitigate these threats is to reduce global greenhouse gas emissions dramatically over the next few decades. But even if we don’t reduce emissions, the reality of adapting to climate change will require responses from government at all levels.

And you know this how? You guys have got some serious coconuts, to think that you can predict what kind of “potentially dangerous changes in our climate” will be the lot of people living a hundred years from now. Let me say it again. There is no agreement on the SIGN, much less the size, of cloud feedback. And if you don’t understand cloud feedback, you don’t understand the climate well enough to forecast it for a decade, much less for a century.

Next, you say “even if we don’t reduce emissions” as though there is a cost-effective way to reduce temperature through emission cuts. The Kyoto Protocol (if its adherents had been able to fulfill their targets, which they didn’t) was estimated by its proponents to have the potential to cool the earth by six hundredths of a degree by 2050. The EPA just estimated that their current plan of regulating CO2 as a “dangerous pollutant” will cool the earth by somewhere around three hundredths of a degree by 2030. Those are the estimates of the proponents of the plans, opponents say less.

So you are pushing us to spend billions and billions of dollars and radically reshaping the global economy, and all for a trivial, unmeasurably small reward of a few hundredths of a degree … and then you think people who are against your cockamamie ideas are “anti-science”??? Where is the science in spending billions and billions of dollars for a possible, not guaranteed but only possible, temperature reduction so small we can’t even detect it? That’s so dumb and so far from science that I can’t begin to characterize it.

Challenges to policy proposals for how to deal with this problem should be welcome — indeed, a good-faith debate is essential for wise public policymaking.

But the attacks against the science must stop. They are not good-faith questioning of scientific research. They are anti-science.

The questions that you have been asked from the beginning have been the most fundamental of good-faith questions. We simply asked you to show us your data and your work. We requested you to abide by the most bozo requirements of the scientific method. Show us your data, show us your work, the same thing my high school science teacher taught me.

But no, in February of ’05 you went to the Wall Street Journal to make the extraordinary claim:

Giving them [McIntyre and McKitrick] the algorithm would be giving in to the intimidation tactics that these people are engaged in

For you to claim that such basic scientific questions were not in good faith, for you to say that merely (and politely) asking you to show your work is “intimidation”, is the opposite of science. For you to refuse to respond to those requests stops science in its tracks. We just wanted to see how you had come up with such an unusual and unexpected result as your total eradication of the Medieval Warm Period from the landscape. (It turned out that when you were finally forced to reveal your methods, your novel result could be seen to came from a stupid mathematical error combined with using bristlecone pines, known to be an invalid temperature proxy. That made your work meaningless and misleading … but I digress.)

How can I assure young researchers in climate science that if they make a breakthrough in our understanding about how human activity is altering our climate that they, too, will not be dragged through a show trial at a congressional hearing?

How can you assure them? It’s very simple. Dr. Mann, do you think you were picked at random to testify at a Congressional hearing? If you want to assure young researchers that they will not be dragged in front of Congress, tell them not to do the things you have done.

Tell them not to hide adverse results in a folder marked “BACKTO_1400-CENSORED“. Tell them not to make stupid mathematical mistakes and then refuse to show their work. Tell them not to hang around with people who delete emails that are the subject of a Freedom of Information act. Tell them not to subvert the IPCC process to advance their point of view.

And above all, tell them to be open about their data and their work. Why is it so hard for you to understand and practice this most basic of scientific tenets, total transparency and openness? You got hauled before Congress, not because of your scientific views, but because you tried to con people with your bogus math and bad proxies. And when we didn’t buy it, when we asked how you got your results, you refused to explain your methods, claiming it was “intimidation” to even ask, so we should just take it on faith that you were right …

Tell your students that scientists who do those things may have to face either the consequences, or Congress, or both …

America has led the world in science for decades. It has benefited our culture, our economy and our understanding of the world.

My fellow scientists and I must be ready to stand up to blatant abuse from politicians who seek to mislead and distract the public. They are hurting American science. And their failure to accept the reality of climate change will hurt our children and grandchildren, too.

My friend, the problem is not blatant abuse from politicians. The problem is your blatant abuse of the scientific method. If you and other climate scientists stopped trying to scare us with your doomsday fantasies, if you and other climate scientists were honest and open and forthright about what we do understand and what we don’t understand, if you and other climate scientists fully disclosed your data and your methods, if you and other climate scientists stopped trying to subvert the IPCC into serving as your propaganda mouthpiece, we could have a rational discussion.

But you are like a junkie who jumps up and down and screams “Police abuse” every time the cops question him. Asking you scientific questions is not abuse, Dr. Mann, no matter how many times you try to claim it is. And your investigations are the just rewards of your own anti-scientific and unethical actions. As my momma used to say, “Scorch around, and you’ll get burnt.”

Now, if you’d care to disagree with any of the things that I have said above, I am certain that Anthony Watts would be more than happy to publish your reply. So the opportunity is yours to make your case about the math, and the bristlecones, and the IPCC AR4 review comments, and all the rest. Heck, publish your emails that show that you didn’t conspire with Wahl and Amman and Jones to delete emails regarding what you had done to subvert AR4 … I offer you the chance to set the record straight.

My conclusions? I strongly support the fullest further investigation of the Climategate scandals, and your own role in them. Not via the legal system like Cuccinelli, however. I want an independent, outside scientific/academic investigation that talks to both your friends and those who disagree with your actions and claims. I want to bring in full sunlight, and put this matter to rest. I would like to know if you did delete the emails, and if you asked your pal Gene to do the same … you know, the stuff your precious “thorough investigations” never investigated in the slightest.

And as a result, it is perfectly clear to me why you have gone to the Washington Post to complain about the possibility that people might find out exactly what you did and didn’t do. And I have to say, I sympathize with you in that regard.

Because from the looks of things, if I were you … I wouldn’t want someone bringing in the sunlight so folks could find out what went on, either.

Sincerely,

Willis Eschenbach

Independent Climate Researcher

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JPeden
October 11, 2010 10:00 pm

thefordprefect says:
October 11, 2010 at 8:19 pm
How can you judge people on an incomplete sample of 13 YEARS of emails There should have been 10+ times the number of mails in the UEA pack. They have been edited for a purpose!
Having watched the way ipcc Climate Science operates for the previous ~9 years before the leak, I wasn’t surprised in the least. The leaked material was unnecessary to prove that ipcc Climate Science is not real science, but instead only a massive Propaganda Op.. So where were you?

David Ball
October 11, 2010 10:00 pm

Nice one Joe B. Hear, hear !!!

savethesharks
October 11, 2010 10:00 pm

Joe Bastardi says:
October 11, 2010 at 8:28 pm
I love the term “denier” The simple fact is this: The true deniers are going to be exposed over the next 20-30 years as the PDO changes and then the AMO changes.
I am not afraid of the answer..nor am I in denial of the fact that we will soon get our answer. Only people who wish to shut down debate because they fear the answer
are the deniers here… And that is exactly what they are trying to do..deny the chance to see what the truth is in this matter.
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Repeated for effect! Well said, JB. That is one of the reasons I am a long-time pro subscriber to your company.
Grrrr. Keep it up.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

rwd
October 11, 2010 10:18 pm

“Jimash says:
October 11, 2010 at 9:51 am
The Congress has the power to cal before it, baseball players, investigate charges of using performance enhancing drugs, and proffer charges.
Surely it can do the same to publicly funded scientists suspected of using performance enhancing math to bolster fake science.
So I support that effort.
Good letter Willis !”
“…PERFORMANCE ENHANCING MATH TO BOLSTER FAKE SCIENCE.”
Now that Jimash is FUNNY! Just the sort of thing I wish I had said—and will manage to do so at the first opportunity.
Thanks, Ron.

savethesharks
October 11, 2010 10:19 pm

Oh, please. The current Democratic administration (which I voted for) has John Holdren as its science advisor … and you can’t get more anti-science than John.
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Just like when I voted for Bush both times [please don’t hate me for that lol] his choice of an attorney general [John Ashcroft] was an absolute and complete disaster.
Once they shed their democratic or republican skins, I really believe people like John Ashcroft and Michael Mann have a lot in common.
They are both religious zealots, each for their own cult.
They are also, as Ayn Rand calls them, “Second-Handers”.
And they are just really, NOT THAT SMART.
No scientific prodigy with an exceptional IQ would produce the sublime TRASH that Mann vetted out to the public via the Washington Post.
He just…ain’t that smart.
And if that is an ad hominem then I apologize in advance.
It is the truth.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

Baa Humbug
October 11, 2010 10:25 pm

You tell ’em Willis. What a great read that was.
I’m afraid you’re not making new friends though lol

LightRain
October 11, 2010 10:44 pm

“Michael Mann has failed to implement the scientific method and falls far short of what is required to consider oneself a scientist.”
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Yabut, he’s really really sure he’s right.

ginckgo
October 11, 2010 10:48 pm

Willis 9:28 pm: Do you consider Holdern anti-science because he doesn’t agree with your view on climate change, or because of hisearly (and misrepresented) views on population control?
The misguided views on scientific issues of of the Tea Party are highly destructive to society, and the majority of Republicans are embracing them. A scientist is also a member of society, so why should they get involved in politics any less than a plumber or a pastor? [do you really think this is the appropriate place for a political debate? . . b.mod]

savethesharks
October 11, 2010 11:01 pm

inckgo says:
October 11, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Willis 9:28 pm: Do you consider Holdern anti-science because he doesn’t agree with your view on climate change, or because of his early (and misrepresented) views on population control?
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I don’t want to take words from Willis’ mouth on this but I would venture to guess it is none of the above.
It is simply that Holdren is not a scientist….he is simply political ideologue.
Kind of a scary person you would want as your science advisor [regardless of your political persuasion], don’t ya think??
Unless you are one of the controlled sheeple….then it makes sense.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA

October 11, 2010 11:17 pm

ginckgo says:
October 11, 2010 at 9:17 pm
James Sexton: The Tea Party certainly seems to have a very high concentration of candidates that are fundamentalist christians, which is incompatible with science, no matter what people argue (but maybe that’s just a general trend in the USA these days). They put tax and ‘big’ government as their main causes, this distrust of any ‘elite’ explains why they pretty much all don’t believe in evolution and even the most basic evidence for AGW, they oppose stem cell research, they think homosexuality is a disease or a choice, some are even coming out as anti-vaxers. Heck, the fact that many still think Obama is a foreign born muslim shows how consistently they ignore any evidence that conflicts with their beliefs.
Not really shure how they manage to pull the wool over people’s eyes about public spending, considering public debt tends to ballon under Republican presidents much more than under Democrats.
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Where do you people get your information? Do you just sit and make stuff up like GISS does? First, fundamental Christianity is in no way incompatible with science. Go here http://www.allaboutcreation.org/scientists-who-believe-in-god-faq.htm
An equation means nothing to me unless it expresses a thought of God.
— Srinivasa Ramanujan
In the view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support for such views. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, p. 214)
And from true lordship it follows that the true God is living, intelligent, and powerful; from the other perfections, that he is supreme, or supremely perfect. He is eternal and infinite, omnipotent and omniscient; that is, he endures from eternity to eternity; and he is present from infinity to infinity; he rules all things, and he knows all things that happen or can happen.
— Sir Isaac Newton
But I do not feel obliged to believe that that same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them.
— Galileo Galilei
God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world.
— Paul A. M. Dirac
God’s interest in the human race is nowhere better evinced than in obstetrics.
— Martin H. Fischer
I, of course, could go on for quite some time and still not run out of statements of these intellectual giants affirming that science is simply an endeavor to see what God was doing.
No, I’d say many of the great thinkers in the history of the world would disagree with your statement. It seems a belief in God is entirely compatible with science, if not a requisite to scientific work.
The rest of your tripe is simply that ……anti-vaxers? Are you for real? Son, I was raised in a strict Southern Baptist family. My mother is a fundamentalist Christian. I consider myself a fundamentalist Christian(sometimes a bit of a backslider). I can assure you, it was never a question about our getting various vaccines. Later, while in the service, I became an allergy/immunology technician. (the shot guy) I had no qualms providing vaccinations to the servicemen or their dependents. BTW, I only had one objection to a vaccine based on religious principles, and I can assure you also, that it wasn’t a fundamentalist Christian. There is a very small minority of fundamentalists that don’t believe in receiving vaccines. I’ve never met one. And they are not the only ones that object to vaccines on religious principles.
I would address the rest of your babbling, but I’ll just say, your denial of the reality of our most recent spending sprees seems a bit over the top. A trillion here and a trillion there and pretty soon we’re talking about real money!
I hope I was able to put to rest your inaccurate beliefs and sweeping generalizations about both groups of people. I’m simply flabbergasted by your willful ignorance and inflammatory mischaracterizations of two very large parts of the population of this nation.

October 11, 2010 11:37 pm

ginckgo says:
October 11, 2010 at 10:48 pm
The misguided views on scientific issues of of the Tea Party are highly destructive to society, and the majority of Republicans are embracing them.
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K, ginckgo, put up or shut up. Show me where the Tea Party has made any statements as to their views on any scientific question.

October 11, 2010 11:41 pm

[do you really think this is the appropriate place for a political debate? . . b.mod]———————————- No, but you let him post the idiotic statements. It should be allowed to be responded.

Patrick Davis
October 11, 2010 11:58 pm

Harry needs to do some more e-mailing, just in time for Cancun? I wonder, will we have “Climategate 2: No Pressure!”?

October 12, 2010 12:27 am

Well, its late and work comes early. I’ll leave this to you. Be sure to check the authors of these statements. Their knowledge, understanding, and contributions to science, then and now.
In this age of space flight, when we use the modern tools of science to advance into new regions of human activity, the Bible … this grandiose, stirring history of the gradual revelation and unfolding of the moral law … remains in every way an up-to-date book. Our knowledge and use of the laws of nature that enable us to fly to the Moon also enable us to destroy our home planet with the atom bomb. Science itself does not address the question whether we should use the power at our disposal for good or for evil. The guidelines of what we ought to do are furnished in the moral law of God. It is no longer enough that we pray that God may be with us on our side. We must learn again that we may be on God’s side.
— Wernher von Braun
It is God who is the ultimate reason things, and the Knowledge of God is no less the beginning of science than his essence and will are the beginning of things.
— Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz
Know, oh Brother (May God assist thee and us by the Spirit from Him) that God, Exalted Be His Praise, when He created all creatures and brought all things into being, arranged them and brought them into existence by a process similar to the process of generation of numbers from one, so that the multiplicity [of numbers] should be a witness to his Oneness, and their classification and order an indication of the perfection of His wisdom in creation. And this would be a witness to the fact, too, that they [creatures] are related to Him who created them, in the same way as the numbers are related to the One which is prior to two, and which is the principle, origin and source of numbers, as we have shown in our treatise on arithmetic.
— Ikhwan al-Safa
I wanted to become a theologian; for a long time I was unhappy. Now, behold, God is praised by my work even in astronomy.
— Johannes Kepler
The prohibition of science would be contrary to the Bible, which in hundreds of places teaches us how the greatness and the glory of God shine forth marvelously in all His works, and is to be read above all in the open book of the heavens. And let no one believe that the reading of the most exalted thoughts which are inscribed upon these pages is to be accomplished through merely staring up at the radiance of the stars. There are such profound secrets and such lofty conceptions that the night labors and the researches of hundreds and yet hundreds of the keenest minds, in investigations extending over thousands of years would not penetrate them, and the delight of the searching and finding endures forever.
— Galileo Galilei
The resources of the Deity cannot be so meagre, that, in order to create a human being endowed with reason, he must change a monkey into a man.
— Louis Agassiz
We should like Nature to go no further; we should like it to be finite, like our mind; but this is to ignore the greatness and majesty of the Author of things.
— Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz
[We need not think] that there is any Contradiction, when Philosophy teaches that to be done by Nature; which Religion, and the Sacred Scriptures, teach us to be done by God: no more, than to say, That the balance of a Watch is moved by the next Wheel, is to deny that Wheel, and the rest, to be moved by the Spring; and that both the Spring, and all the other Parts, are caused to move together by the Maker of them. So God may be truly the Cause of This Effect, although a Thousand other Causes should be supposed to intervene: For all Nature is as one Great Engine, made by, and held in His Hand.
— Nehemiah Grew

Tim Williams
October 12, 2010 12:27 am

I’m sure we can all agree on a least one of the findings of the Wegman report….
“Our committee believes that web blogs are not an appropriate way to conduct science and thus the blogs give credence to the fact that these global warming issues are have migrated from the realm of rational scientific discourse.”
[mod: right…]

Blade
October 12, 2010 1:41 am

Willis Eschenbach [Top Post] says:
“First, let me say that I disagree entirely with Cuccinelli’s legalistic approach. It doesn’t seem like the right way to achieve the desired result, that of shining the merciless light of publicity on your actions.

Hold on, stop right there. [Note: I am commenting on this opening paragraph BEFORE reading the entire article and any of the comments. So I do not know if Willis redeems himself later (though I expect he will) or if anyone else calls him out on it.]
I for one am completely fed up with the canned “blah blah blah [something politically correct], but … approach. Particularly when the politically correct portion is implying that I, the taxpayer, doesn’t really matter.
There may actually come a day when Mann and the hockey team and the whole AGW cabal is divorced from the taxpayer dime. If and when that day comes the Cuccinelli whiners (Fuller, Mosher, McIntyre, Willis, etc) can all sit around and have a gentlemen’s discussion about the scientific merits of this and that. And at that time the same whiners may feel free to send Mann checks of any dollar amounts that you would like, and I will not attempt to stand in your way at all.
But for now I am, in part, financing this pop-science extravaganza. And I am asking that you cease and desist from standing in between myself and accountability. The last federal budget sent up was over 3 Trillion bucks, look at that number: 3,000,000,000,000. Almost half of that is red ink! Each state has its own gigantic budget as well and this is where state AG’s like Cuccinelli better get moving (lest Virginia become like California). I will not attempt to unravel Willis statement (“… achieve the desired result, that of shining the merciless light of publicity …”), as he clearly misses the point of the AG position.
There is a strange yet ironic paradox facing these “go away Cuccinelli” voices. You may inadvertantly kick this thing up to a whole new level should you successfully silence the voice of the taxpayers. Because, if these completely appropriate but TINY baby steps towards fiscal accountability fail, well, don’t be surprised at what comes next. The politically incorrect radical constitutional freedom and private property worshipper in me and mine will at the very least be grabbing tar and feathers, pitchforks and torches. Note, I said at least. Count on this because an enormous number of taxpaying citizens do not plan on leaving this financial mess for our kids and grandkids to clean up.
Disclaimer: Naturally, this comment is all IMHO, and has nothing to do with Anthony Watts and WUWT.
Now to finish reading the article, and the comments.

Roger Knights
October 12, 2010 1:45 am

ginckgo says:
October 11, 2010 at 10:48 pm
The misguided views on scientific issues of of the Tea Party are highly destructive to society, …

Not 1% as destructive as the views of the warmists.

October 12, 2010 2:07 am

Shevva says: “At some point Mr Mann must of realised that his work would not hold up to the scientific method,
It is likely it happened this way:
1. Too little data so they used the “best estimate” of trend.
2. Far too little data to provide any confidence in that trend, so they never had a “proven trend” and so they got into the habit of using “best estimate” whenever anyone asked for “proven trend” … ignoring (or worse not knowing) the difference.
3. As for scientific method (proving by experimentation, not using “best estimate as proven trend, etc.) how do you do an experiment in climate “science”. Basically, they decided to call themselves “science” when anyone who’d read even a basic book on the philosophy of science would have known this isn’t a real science. It’s no more a science than economics, psychiatry, cooking.

RichieP
October 12, 2010 2:08 am

‘Res ipsa loquiter.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA’
Pedantically, but in the spirit of accuracy, it should be ‘loquitur’.

Bertie Poole
October 12, 2010 2:22 am

Even if CO2 produced by man caused global warming scientists agree there is no way to reverse the process. If we could then we could agree on a world temperature and pump the required CO2 into the atmosphere.