Potential breakthrough: electrical power from waste heat generated at the quantum level

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This isn't the "breakthrough" - but it shows the Seebeck thermocouple effect in action as we knew it - read on Image: scitoys.com

I’ve always been fascinated by the thermocouple and its ability to generate electricity from heat. I’ve often wondered if we could put millions of thermocouples into places where heat is a byproduct of some other operation and capture it as electricity. That may soon happen.

From light.sci-toys.com: In 1821, physicist Thomas Johan Seebeck discovered an interesting effect when he heated a junction of two different metals. He found that they generated an electric current. Actually, he thought it was a magnetic effect, because what he had noticed was that a compass needle was deflected as the current flowed through the wire.

Today, we call the thermoelectric effect he discovered by his name — the Seebeck effect. He must have had a very sensitive compass, because the currents that are generated are very small. Unless the wires are formed into a coil around the compass, to increase the magnetism of the current carrying wire, it would be difficult to notice any movement.

But a modern voltmeter is sensitive enough to show the effect, as shown in the photo. Now that concept has literally taken a quantum leap.

From University of Arizona News – Quantum physicists turn waste heat into power

A "forest" of molecules holds the promise of turning waste heat into electricity. UA physicists discovered that because of quantum effects, electron waves traveling along the backbone of each molecule interfere with each other, leading to the buildup of a voltage between the hot and cold electrodes (the golden structures on the bottom and top). (Rendering by Justin Bergfield)

University of Arizona physicists have discovered a new way of harvesting waste heat and turning it into electrical power. Taking advantage of quantum effects, the technology holds great promise for making cars, power plants, factories and solar panels more efficient.

What do a car engine, a power plant, a factory and a solar panel have in common? They all generate heat – a lot of which is wasted.

University of Arizona physicists have discovered a new way of harvesting waste heat and turning it into electrical power.

Using a theoretical model of a so-called molecular thermoelectric device, the technology holds great promise for making cars, power plants, factories and solar panels more efficient, to name a few possible applications. In addition, more efficient thermoelectric materials would make ozone-depleting chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs, obsolete.

The research group led by Charles Stafford, associate professor of physics, published its findings in the September issue of the scientific journal, ACS Nano.

“Thermoelectricity makes it possible to cleanly convert heat directly into electrical energy in a device with no moving parts,” said lead author Justin Bergfield, a doctoral candidate in the UA College of Optical Sciences.

“Our colleagues in the field tell us they are pretty confident that the devices we have designed on the computer can be built with the characteristics that we see in our simulations.”

“We anticipate the thermoelectric voltage using our design to be about 100 times larger than what others have achieved in the lab,” Stafford added.

Catching the energy lost through waste heat has been on the wish list of engineers for a long time but, so far, a concept for replacing existing devices that is both more efficient and economically competitive has been lacking.

Unlike existing heat-conversion devices such as refrigerators and steam turbines, the devices of Bergfield and Stafford require no mechanics and no ozone-depleting chemicals. Instead, a rubber-like polymer sandwiched between two metals acting as electrodes can do the trick.

Car or factory exhaust pipes could be coated with the material, less than 1 millionth of an inch thick, to harvest energy otherwise lost as heat and generate electricity.

The physicists take advantage of the laws of quantum physics, a realm not typically tapped into when engineering power-generating technology. To the uninitiated, the laws of quantum physics appear to fly in the face of how things are “supposed” to behave.

The key to the technology lies in a quantum law physicists call wave-particle duality: Tiny objects such as electrons can behave either as a wave or as a particle.

“In a sense, an electron is like a red sports car,” Bergfield said. “The sports car is both a car and it’s red, just as the electron is both a particle and a wave. The two are properties of the same thing. Electrons are just less obvious to us than sports cars.”

Bergfield and Stafford discovered the potential for converting heat into electricity when they studied polyphenyl ethers, molecules that spontaneously aggregate into polymers, long chains of repeating units. The backbone of each polyphenyl ether molecule consists of a chain of benzene rings, which in turn are built from carbon atoms. The chain link structure of each molecule acts as a “molecular wire” through which electrons can travel.

“We had both worked with these molecules before and thought about using them for a thermoelectric device,” Bergfield said, “but we hadn’t really found anything special about them until Michelle Solis, an undergrad who worked on independent study in the lab, discovered that, low and behold, these things had a special feature.”

Using computer simulations, Bergfield then “grew” a forest of molecules sandwiched between two electrodes and exposed the array to a simulated heat source.

“As you increase the number of benzene rings in each molecule, you increase the power generated,” Bergfield said.

The secret to the molecules’ capability to turn heat into power lies in their structure: Like water reaching a fork in a river, the flow of electrons along the molecule is split in two once it encounters a benzene ring, with one flow of electrons following along each arm of the ring.

Bergfield designed the benzene ring circuit in such a way that in one path the electron is forced to travel a longer distance around the ring than the other. This causes the two electron waves to be out of phase once they reunite upon reaching the far side of the benzene ring. When the waves meet, they cancel each other out in a process known as quantum interference. When a temperature difference is placed across the circuit, this interruption in the flow of electric charge leads to the buildup of an electric potential – voltage – between the two electrodes.

Wave interference is a concept exploited by noise-cancelling headphones: Incoming sound waves are met with counter waves generated by the device, wiping out the offending noise.

“We are the first to harness the wave nature of the electron and develop a concept to turn it into usable energy,” Stafford said.

Analogous to solid state versus spinning hard drive type computer memory, the UA-designed thermoelectric devices require no moving parts. By design, they are self-contained, easier to manufacture and easier to maintain compared to currently available technology.

“You could just take a pair of metal electrodes and paint them with a single layer of these molecules,” Bergfield said. “That would give you a little sandwich that would act as your thermoelectric device. With a solid-state device you don’t need cooling agents, you don’t need liquid nitrogen shipments, and you don’t need to do a lot of maintenance.”

“You could say, instead of Freon gas, we use electron gas,” Stafford added.

“The effects we see are not unique to the molecules we used in our simulation,” Bergfield said. “Any quantum-scale device where you have a cancellation of electric charge will do the trick, as long as there is a temperature difference. The greater the temperature difference, the more power you can generate.”

Molecular thermoelectric devices could help solve an issue currently plaguing photovoltaic cells harvesting energy from sunlight.

“Solar panels get very hot and their efficiency goes down,” Stafford said. “You could harvest some of that heat and use it to generate additional electricity while simultaneously cooling the panel and making its own photovoltaic process more efficient.”

“With a very efficient thermoelectric device based on our design, you could power about 200 100-Watt light bulbs using the waste heat of an automobile,” he said. “Put another way, one could increase the car’s efficiency by well over 25 percent, which would be ideal for a hybrid since it already uses an electrical motor.”

So, next time you watch a red sports car zip by, think of the hidden power of the electron and how much more efficient that sports car could be with a thermoelectric device wrapped around its exhaust pipe.

Reference: Giant Thermoelectric Effect from Transmission Supernodes. Justin Bergfield, Michelle Solis, and Charles Stafford. ACS Nano Sept. 2010.

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anna v
September 29, 2010 4:44 am

Lucy Skywalker says:
September 29, 2010 at 1:59 am
I have the strong impression that the aspect of Quantum Mechanics Physics called the “Zero Point Field” has huge potential for exploration

Yes, it is quite intriguing. If one could devise a valve, like the ones used for getting energy out of the waves, but this time out of the zeropoint energy sea we would be all set.

Dave Springer
September 29, 2010 4:45 am

200 100-watt light bulbs is 27 horsepower. Seems a bit excessive for just the exhaust pipe alone if all the watts of heat energy were converted to electrical energy (100% efficient, which is impossible) unless we’re talking about a 500hp motor with the gas pedal to the floor. In normal driving conditions the motor is seldom producing anywhere near its rated horsepower. Diesel engines are about 40% efficient. A modest weight mid-size passenger car cruising at 55mph is using about 25hp at the wheels which means about 37hp of waste heat. Much of that waste heat leaves through the water jacket/radiator not the exhaust pipe.
Conventional thermopile efficiency is in the low single digits and temperature differentials of a thousand degrees F are needed to reach even that low efficiency and the voltage is in millivolts requiring many of them in series to attain usable voltages.
If someone here who has access to ACS Nano paper (behind a paywall) could get some specifics in regard to voltage, temperature, and efficiency that would be cool but I’m pretty sure the talk of getting a usable amount of electricity from the waste heat in a motor vehicle engine is pie-in-the-sky.

Joe Lalonde
September 29, 2010 4:47 am

Is this not using CO2?
Heat and CO2 two different processes…whoda thunk?
Is this not the same excuse used by global warming for greenhouse gas effect?
Hate the use of the word quantum for molecules that vibrate when heated.

Phil's Dad
September 29, 2010 5:13 am

Mike Haseler says:
September 29, 2010 at 12:32 am
“Using the waste heat from an automobile they could power an electric lightbulb.”
Waste heat from automobile has got to be around 10kw …. provides 100W of energy. Wow! This is going to change the world! (Not)

Worth another read Mr Haseler. It actually says 200 X 100Watts. If your estimate for automobile waste heat is correct (I suspect not) then they can generate 20KW from 10KW – which I would call world changing.
One thing you have to get right on this site is your estimate of Watts.

September 29, 2010 5:19 am

I believe Whirlpool Corporation built and tested a residential natural gas furnace with a thermoelectric-powered circulating fan in the 1960s. The factory standard cost of the TE system was quite high; and, the heat extracted by the thermocouples on the walls of the combustion chambers tended to “chill” the combustion reaction, increasing carbon monoxide concentrations to unacceptable levels. Also, to avoid condensation in the flue, the exhaust gas temperature remained unchanged; and, thus, the overall efficiency of the furnace did not increase.
Perhaps this new TE technology will become available just as we are ending the burning of fossil fuels to help keep Jim Hansen out of jail.

Pascvaks
September 29, 2010 5:26 am

“Roof Shingles! Yep! That’s the future boy. Shingles!” said the rich old man to the brand new Graduate.
Then Mrs. Robinson said, …

Charles Higley
September 29, 2010 5:31 am

As this appears to be a boundary effect, designing such systems to have huge regions of interface and being able to collect the power is probably going to be technically difficult. Good luck. This will not be soon coming to stores near us. Of course, the gov’t could mandate the not-ready-for-prime-time technology into cars and make cars too expensive to buy.

Phil's Dad
September 29, 2010 5:35 am

There is an interesting potential application of this technology being discussed here
http://focusfusion.org/index.php/forums/viewthread/684/

Tripod
September 29, 2010 6:14 am

I woudnt bet any money on it. Remember the super capacitor (Eestor). http://www.eestor.us/ just a web page under construction for 3 years.
Remember Lonnie Johnson the super soaker inventor (Johnson Electromechanical System) http://www.johnsonems.com/ and the JTEC (Johnson Thermoelectric converter. I’m sure there are more that other WUWT readers will remember.

chris y
September 29, 2010 6:28 am

Mick says “ps: The Pioneer and Voyager probes are still working!!”
An excellent point. Thermoelectric generators using a Plutonium thermal source (no CFC’s, no CO2) have been in service for several decades now.
My family’s world book encyclopedia from the mid-1960’s had a Science Fair project describing the construction of a Seebeck effect thermoelectric generator based on multiple junctions of dissimilar metal wires. Modern Thermoelectric modules are also based on ‘Quantum’ effects’ and ‘electron properties’.
I do think this is an interesting avenue of basic research with a 10 – 25 year horizon.
The usual engineering issues will of course show up when trying to reduce this to working prototypes. Bringing heat to one side of the film, and extracting it from the other, to maintain a sufficiently high delta T (without melting or decomposing what will likely be a waxy organic film, like what is created using Langmuir-Blodgett monolayer deposition techniques) and therefore generate useful amounts of power, while minimizing the thermal conductivity and maximizing the electrical conductivity of the film itself, will be challenging. I’d be interested to see if they estimated the thermoelectric figure of merit for this theoretical material.

A C Osborn
September 29, 2010 6:52 am

Grey Lensman says:
September 29, 2010 at 3:29 am
You an E E Doc Smith fan?

Paul
September 29, 2010 7:02 am

I wonder about the benzene rings under high heat. Won’t they burn up?

Mike(One of the Many)
September 29, 2010 7:06 am

Wasn’t there some work being done on infrared solar cells, using nano scale antennas? I believe that they were having trouble converting the energy that was being trapped into useable electricity, something to do with it’s frequency, of the order of billions of Hz i.e. GHz – Don’t suppose anyone knows anything more about this?

A C Osborn
September 29, 2010 7:06 am

This gives a great example of the current state of TEGs and use in Vehicles.
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/harvestingWasteHeat.php
I have also seen a figure of 1Kw generated by the heat from a Truck engine.
Anthony did you know that a 4″ parabolic reflector from an electric Torch can generate a heat of 350-450 degrees C at it’s focal point using UK sunshine. It should be much higher in the Desert.

September 29, 2010 7:12 am

Hummmm…..Just a thought or two.
“The greater the temperature difference, the more power you can generate”
But, the distance between Th and Tc is the thickness of the polymer coating: “…less 1 millionth of an inch thick”.
As the distance between Th and Tc approaches “0”, the temperature difference between Th or Tc must also approach “0”. (Unless the polymer has magic heat insulating properties. They didn’t mention the inclusion of magic pixie dust.)
This is an interesting theoretical concept. And, it might actually work in practice. And it could possibly create useful amounts of power. And if it all works out, it could be the foundation of an economically rational product. (E.g. If the cost of getting electricity to your home is greater than $30 or $40 K, a full blown solar power system becomes economically rational. Otherwise, it probably isn’t. Depends on what your definition of “is” is. Perhaps: “Is” is what “isn’t” isn’t?)
But, as is often the case, if it were a “slam dunk”, then really really smart people would fund the project so that they would make all of the “profits”. If they are asking Big Brother to fund it with Other People’s Money (OPM), then it is suspect. (E.g. Cold Fusion).
Down here in the Free Republic of Texas a local good ole boy, T Boone Pickens, was proposing a wind farm project that would cover some 1,200 square miles of the Texas Panhandle. But first, he wanted the state to use OPM to pay for the transmission system. Now, just by coincidence, the legislature passed a law so that power transmission right of ways can be used for things like water pipelines. And, it just so happens, that at one end of the proposed right of way water was cheap and at the other end water was expensive.
Now you can ask yourself, “Self, that T Boone is a pretty smart feller. Why would ole T Boon put his own money in a project that will only exist as long as Big Brother subsidizes it with OPM? As soon as the subsidies run out, your investment will be worthless.”
Let me know what “Self” says back to you.
Also…..
The paper mentions “ozone-depleting chlorofluorocarbons, or CFCs” several times. I thought that theory was pretty much proven to be another hoax, a la “hockey stick”. The repeated inclusion in this paper just increases the cause for suspicion.
Regards,
Steamboat Jack (Jon Jewett’s evil twin)

Grey Lensman
September 29, 2010 7:29 am

A.C.OSBORN
Yes but I am a human being.

DirkH
September 29, 2010 7:36 am

Could one run this system in reverse, applying a voltage to cool one of the plates with respect to the other?

Eric Gisin
September 29, 2010 7:55 am

I hate it when reporters say N football fields or 200 X 100W. Just say 20KW.
A small ICE producing 10KW will propel a small car on the highway. I does produce 20KW+ of waste heat. But most of it is low quality, not the high temp of exhaust. All heat engines become less efficient with small heat difference, I expect thermocouples have a max theoretical efficiency too. I doubt thermocouples on the exhaust can produce more that a few KW electricity.

tallbloke
September 29, 2010 7:55 am

Roger Carr says:
September 29, 2010 at 2:48 am (Edit)
Marcus — thanks for the URL to the TEG 5000 — Thermo Electric Generator

From that link:
“This generator has the capacity to power the average U.S. home.”
Bullcrap. There is no way that unit will produce enough electrical energy from burning gas to power the average U.S. home.
In Norway, some university research teams have been trying to make an efficient TEG. The best they can manage so far is to run a small portable tv off a unit which covers the top of a woodburner.

Rod Everson
September 29, 2010 7:57 am

I’m just curious if someone could compare a couple of numbers for me? Those are the waste heat from a running car engine, figuring it is only running, say, 30 minutes a day (going 25 miles or so to work and back) and the heat generated inside a car sitting in direct sunlight in a parking lot for the 8 hours the car is parked at work.
It strikes me that if the process were efficient enough and the solar heat generated was high enough, that an electric car could someday be recharging as it sat in the sun, but I don’t have a feel for the comparative energy levels involved (engine waste heat vs. solar heat inside the car.)
Can someone reading this run the numbers? Thanks.
Rod

tallbloke
September 29, 2010 7:57 am

DirkH says:
September 29, 2010 at 7:36 am (Edit)
Could one run this system in reverse, applying a voltage to cool one of the plates with respect to the other?

Yes, that’s the Peltier effect as opposed to the Seebeck effect. You can use them to cool cpu s. There are a million and one mini fridges on ebay using the same principle.

George E. Smith
September 29, 2010 8:03 am

So the space probes are still working; that’s wonderful.
I think I have said several times here at WUWT, that using “electricity” to create “heat” should be a felony. And that is often as close to 100% conversion as you might ever expect to get. But you are starting off with “real” energy; ordered energy as from a battery, or the gravity driven weight on a cuckoo clock; and you are turning it into crap; waste disordered energy of a mechanical nature that we call “heat”. It’s that wastefullness that I decry; even though it is convenient.
If you try to go in the reverse direction; from heat to energy; that too should be a felony; called “stupidity”. You are trying to use the disordered chaos of random molecular mechanical energy of particles rushing in all directions, to try and get some useful work done; and there is no way to can ever recover 100% of the total energy that is represented by that heat. Even an Australian sheep dog could never organise all those molecules to get moving in the same direction to accomplish something useful.
So even though you can convert some fraction of the “heat” energy into useful work; or what is equivalent; the capacity to do useful work, which is ENERGY (real) you have to deal with things like Entropy, and the Carnot Efficiency limits and such.
So it is a stupid thing to do; even though there are applications(such as those marvellous space probes) where it is one of the very few options you have.
Thermopiles (bolometers) can be good detectors of “heat”, in that they can detect through their heating, radiations over a very large range of wavelengths; but they still are quite low efficiency.
One of the first things you learn in thermodynamics is that you can never convert 100% of the “heat” in a system into useful work or the equivalent which would be for example, electricity.
Those space probes are an ingenious application of a rather inefficient process; but one of the few possibilities for providing ANY electricity way the blazes out in free space; where free clean green renewable energy from the thermonuclear fusion of stars, is too sparse to be useful.
So everybody should go out and buy a thermopile gizmo from Edmunds Scientific or your local equivalent; and start off with something simple; like trying to run your electric toothbrush or your Ipod/pad/pud/ped/pid off it, so you will learn something about thermodynamics.
So yes going either way from electricity to heat or back is stupid, and should be a felony; unless you are building a space probe.

Enneagram
September 29, 2010 8:05 am

There is a relation among all of these phenomena:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/38251461/Unified-Field

jorgekafkazar
September 29, 2010 8:08 am

Very old basic science. Old technology with a computer model strapped on. Interesting, but too similar to all the other pie-in-the-sky energy sources: lots and lots of “free” energy, very expensive hardware required, and lots of it, net result: very little net usable power at very high cost. We may have nuclear fusion before this research yields anything useful. I’d spend my bucks on nuclear fusion research.

Enneagram
September 29, 2010 9:29 am

A weirder idea? for alternative energies (O My!, is it out there anything different than energy?). Well, let’s say it:
-Get a generator, then fix a pulley on the end, wind a long, long string or rope around it,
then, tie a balloon at the end and let it pull the rope/string up: It will make the generator move, producing electricity.
What did it happen? We have extracted energy from Gravity, as the balloon opposed Gravity, by flying up, up and away !
Can this idea be funded by Cap&Trade? 🙂