
By charles the moderator
I have no other comment.
From congress.org
Global Warming could make Humans EXTINCT within 50 years
Kill mechanisms list
Global Warming could make the human race EXTINCT. The #1 kill mechanism is famine. See “The Long Summer” by Brian Fagan and “Collapse” by Jared Diamond. Shifting winds and warmer oceans have already created a weird moving checkerboard of drought and flood that has interfered with agriculture here and elsewhere.
The extra heat has caused heat related deaths already.
The book “Six Degrees” by Mark Lynas says: “If the global warming is 6 degrees centigrade, we humans go extinct.” The book lists several kill mechanisms, the most important being famine and methane fuel-air explosions. Other mechanisms include fire storms.
“Under a Green Sky” by Peter D. Ward, Ph.D., 2007 says H2S bubbling out of hot oceans is the final blow at 6 degrees C warming.
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read the rest at congress.org
rc says:
June 29, 2010 at 3:19 am
It’s worse than the headline, the last sentence is:
“We HUMANS could be EXTINCT by 2050 because politicians are not considering sufficiently strong action.”
Oh no only 40 years left!
Impossible to take articles like this seriously.
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Take it very seriously.
This is NOT an article it is a pre-written Letter to your Congressman!
If a Congress Critter gets lots of these letters he is going to think he should vote for Cap and Tax because that is what the voters in his district wants. He does not care about science he cares about money and power.
Now think about the commenter David and his repeated sniping by the moderators at SEPP on the PNAS blacklist paper At his own website his first words on June 27th are “The United States of America is a nation which can, must and will fail …. What we are witnessing now is not merely the collapse of the USA but the terminal decline of technological civilization. The Earth cannot sustain the unhealthy appetites and pollution of 6.7 billion humans.”
So where did he get this hatred for the USA and “technological civilization?” – Where did he learn that “feelings” are more important than “evidence” He got it from John Dewey, father of “Modern Education”
Nikita Khrushchev stated:
“You Americans are so gullible! We don’t have to invade you! We will destroy you from within without firing a shot! We will bury you by the billions! We spoon feed you socialism until your Communists and don’t even know it! We assist your elected leaders in giving you small doses of Socialism until you suddenly awake to find you have Communism. the day will come when your grandchildren will live under communism!”
Unfortunately John Dewey and his successors (ala’ Bill Spady’s Outcome Based Education) have pretty much had their way for at least two generation and we are now dealing with the grandchildren Khrushchev was talking about. Critical thinking and even basic math, reading and writing are no longer taught in US schools and have not been since the seventies.
“The bulk of the responsibility for these massive, tragic declines in education can be laid at the feet of the leaders of the Humanist education community. Their obsessive meddling with the basic process and pedagogy of education, conducted in their zeal to make education more philosophically (e.g. “modern” Humanist) and politically correct, is the primary cause of the decline. John Dewey and his successors (ala’ Bill Spady’s Outcome Based Education) have pretty much had their way, but the excuses are wearing pretty thin….”
The demise of CRITICAL THINKING
“…. There is no God and there is no soul. Hence, there are no needs for the props of traditional religion. With dogma and creed excluded, then immutable truth is also dead and buried. There is no room for fixed, natural law or moral absolutes.” – John Dewey (Rondald Nash, The Closing of the American Heart: What’s Really Wrong with America’s Schools, United States: Probe Books, 1990, 91)
The demise of READING and MATH and the substitution of “FEELINGS”
“….. It is almost an unquestioned assumption, of educational theory and practice both, that the first three years of a child’s school-life shall be mainly taken up with learning to read and write his own language. If we add to this the learning of a certain amount of numerical combinations, we have the pivot about which education swings…
It does not follow, however, that because this course was once wise it is so any longer. On the contrary, the fact, that this mode of education was adapted to past conditions, is in itself a reason why it should no longer hold supreme sway.
…The significant thing is that it is possible for the child at an early day to become acquainted with, and to use, in a personal and yet relatively controlled fashion, the methods by which truth is discovered and communicated, and to make his own speech a channel for the expression and communication of truth; thus putting the linguistic side where it belongs — subordinate to the appropriation and conveyance of what is genuinely and personally experienced …” John Dewey FEELINGS REIGNS SUPREME
Well, the guy has PhD by his name so he must be right.
this is not an unusual article at all.
CAGW is a social movement based on exactly the sort of apocalyptic claptrap this idiot article exemplifies.
It uses science to sell an apocalyptic story of man’s evil just like TV preachers use the Bible to sell the idea the world is coming to an end with a great rapture of believers teleporting away Star Trek style from their problems. And note how promoters of apocalyptic stories always need to sell books and give well paid lectures.
It is a nice listing extreme books that promote this amazingly wrong idea.
It is easily one of the stupidest articles ever. I feel sorry that the true believer who wrote it is probably sincerely thinking he is offering a sober rational analysis of a real threat. I feel even sorrier for anyone this article may convince.
I’m not sure even AGW caused by, say, a few thousand thermonuclear devices could do that. Wipe out our civilization, sure. . . wipe us out –all of us–? Probably not.
But then maybe the resulting “nuclear winter” would do that. It’s always something with these folks. . .
More likely the SH folks would get that chance to do it better next time without those damn imperialists in the NH messing everything up. . . .
Matthew Bergin says:
June 29, 2010 at 3:26 am
I notice that the web site has no way to comment on their articles. A good thing or I might have said something rude.
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You can comment on this Letter to Congress go to the bottom left of the written article and click on the red Report Abuse. On the next screen you can use the pull down box to click on your choice (I clicked offensive) and then write a short comment.
Michael Mann has changed his mind.
Michael Mann says hockey stick should not have become ‘climate change icon’
The scientist behind the controversial ‘hockey stick’ graph has said it was ‘somewhat misplaced’ to make his work an ‘icon of the climate change debate’.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7849441/Michael-Mann-says-hockey-stick-should-not-have-become-climate-change-icon.html
Paul Birch says:
June 29, 2010 at 4:37 am
It’s not an article, it’s a posted comment. Sure it’s stupid, but 87.3% of comment posts are stupid, and 76.9% of them use made up statistics….
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Sorry it is neither an Article or a Comment it is meant to be a pre-written Letter to Congress. Look at the top and bottom and you will see:
Write your elected officials about this issue!……Enter Your ZIP Code:…….GO
This allows the frightened alarmist to cut and past using it as their “letter” to their Congressman. It is worse than a form letter because many of the letters will be slightly different, reflecting a persons bias so it does not come across as a “form letter”
Even Gavin Schmidt told him to calm down!!!
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I’m now panicking! I have never heared this kind of scaremongering story before. Famine, droughts, CAGW, methane calthrates. I have no counter evidence AT ALL. I can’t find any apocalyptic predictions made in the 1960s or 1970s.
/ end sarc.
I can’t be bothered to tackle this nonsense. AGWers become upset and dismayed at the growing scepticism of CAGW and wonder why? They should put such confused people on a tighter leash.
“”H2S bubbling out of hot oceans”” ????
Is that a prediction for the sun going nova in the next few years?
CTM: I concur.
If Earth had a sense of humour it would now spring a surprise ice age. Just a little mini one, just to show who’s boss!
Ric Werme says:
June 29, 2010 at 5:11 am
My 100th birthday will be in October 2050. Hope they mean the end of the year, I’d hate to miss my party. I’ll see if can age quicker to have the party a few years earlier.
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Maybe we can have that birthday party together. mine is the tail end of September.
Unfortunately, this type of science fiction isn’t new. Some weeks ago I watched an old Twilight Zone episode where the Earth was quickly being cooked by the sun. People were desperately trying to escape to the poles before they turned into toast.
Last week, Dr. Frank Fenner predicted that humans will cause their extinction in 100 years (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1287643/Human-race-extinct-100-years-population-explosion.html). I like Fenner’s prediction because it gives me 50 more years to live.
Then there’s this from January 2009: “Billions Could Go Hungry From Global Warming by 2100” (http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16384-billions-could-go-hungry-from-global-warming-by-2100.html).
And my absolute favorite: “Over 4.5 Billion People Could Die From Global-Warming Related Causes by 2012” (http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/01/08/01291.html)
Finally, here’s a classic from The Onion: “Christian Groups: Biblical Armageddon Must Be Taught Alongside Global Warming”
There seems to be a rash of these doomsday predictions lately, and that suits me fine. Enviromental radicals are moving farther and farther out to the lunatic fringe and those who defend their message are looking more and more ridiculous. It’s becoming a huge joke. Bring on more news articles like this. I need a good laugh.
John Wyndham who wrote Day of the Triffids liked to write what he called “Scientific Fiction” where there was a plausible link and idea to the story. He didn’t like science fiction as such, so I doubt if he would have written anything about global warming and if he did it would have been much more believable than this.
The staggering stupidity of anyone believing that they are sooooo important that this world must end on their shift. Just like it never did before.
The French/Germans probably have a word for it but I can’t be bothered finding it.
The whole enchilada is broken. There is no CO2 induced thermageddon on our horizon. There is no big-bang. There is no event-horizon even. There is no peak oil. There is no peak-anything – except human idiocy it would seem.
The more I investigate “modern” science the more I am beginning to think that there may well be a God and He is jerking us all around by making these proud loonies produce theories that posit the exact reverse of His reality.
Henry, still waiting to be freed from my J(ust)O(ver)B(roke) by the oil company check.
I was assured it was in the post.
FWIW, I clicked the ‘Abuse’ button, and submitted this:
“Utter nonsense, apocalyptic scare-mongering without a scintilla of scientific evidence or rationale. If you write your congressman, tell him not to fall for this kind of claptrap.”
More fun than working, but pointless.
/Mr Lynn
Finally Paul Erlich is vindicated. There are bigger idiots than him!
Gail Combs says:
June 29, 2010 at 5:46 am
Sorry it is neither an Article or a Comment it is meant to be a pre-written Letter to Congress. Look at the top and bottom and you will see:
Write your elected officials about this issue!……Enter Your ZIP Code:…….GO
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It’s a soapbox message. The way that site works people can apparently also forward messages to their “elected officials”. It’s still just a comment – a soapbox rant – not a deliberately thought-out Letter to Congress.
Ahhhhhhhhhh, we’re all gonna die!!!! Oh, wait, that’s the natural order of things. Anyway, as long as I live long enough to see the Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming Narrative fully debunked, everything will be ok and I will have done my little part to help prevent humanity from pursuing this colossal folly…
Global Warming could make Humans EXTINCT within 50 years?
Doubtful, but we do appear to be witnessing the demise of homo sapiens (wise and knowing man).
The change has started; the new species claims to be capable of amazing feats including controlling the temperature of the planet?
This being quite a remarkable feat, given that they have yet to prove an ability to accurately measure the temperature of the planet.
Welcome to the new breed: – homo superbus (arrogant man)! They walk amongst you!
Fortunately for us, Mr. Greisch is already working on ideas to avoid the catastrophe, At this site (bottom of the page):
He explains further (click on More):
Mr. Greisch’s grasp of reality seems somewhat tenuous…
The next time you read an alarming headline about global warming – remind yourself that the claimed affects are NOT because it was hotter, but because it was LESS COLD at night.
The average temperature for the day has traditionally been to take a simple average of the Max and Min temps
Average = (Max + Min) / 2
I seem to recall that the significant movement in the anomaly temperatures has been from the Minimums being Less Cold.
Not so scary, that.
There’s a link for reporting abuse. I followed it.
Great idea. I did likewise.
I think we’re all wasting our time;
“Never argue with an idiot; they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ~ anonymous
Jimbo says:
June 29, 2010 at 5:47 am (Edit)
Even Gavin Schmidt told him to calm down!!!
“[Response: Can we please move on from apocalyptic doomsday scenarios? These conversations never go anywhere and everyone is very clear about how you feel on this issue. – gavin]“
Lol, I can see Gav now, face buried in palm, as he contemplates another day’s agony aunt moderating on SurReallKlimat.