By charles the moderator
I have no other comment.
From congress.org
Global Warming could make Humans EXTINCT within 50 years
Kill mechanisms list
Global Warming could make the human race EXTINCT. The #1 kill mechanism is famine. See “The Long Summer” by Brian Fagan and “Collapse” by Jared Diamond. Shifting winds and warmer oceans have already created a weird moving checkerboard of drought and flood that has interfered with agriculture here and elsewhere.
The extra heat has caused heat related deaths already.
The book “Six Degrees” by Mark Lynas says: “If the global warming is 6 degrees centigrade, we humans go extinct.” The book lists several kill mechanisms, the most important being famine and methane fuel-air explosions. Other mechanisms include fire storms.
“Under a Green Sky” by Peter D. Ward, Ph.D., 2007 says H2S bubbling out of hot oceans is the final blow at 6 degrees C warming.
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read the rest at congress.org
Talk sceptically to an AGW fan, you get told anyone who isn’t a climatologist can’t have an opinion.
Yet in this they quote an historian, a paleontologist and a couple of businessmen…
Climate change is leaving us with extra space junk
The upper layers of the atmosphere have a braking effect on defunct satellites and spent rockets, eventually causing them to drop out of orbit and burn up. Arrun Saunders and Hugh Lewis, at the University of Southampton in the UK, studied the orbits of 30 satellites over the past 40 years, and recorded a gradual increase in the time they remain in orbit. They attribute this to the cooling and reduced density of the upper atmosphere used by increasing carbon dioxide levels.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627663.000-climate-change-is-leaving-us-with-extra-space-junk.html
Until 1989 when the Cold War ended it was anticipated that we would all blow ourselves up at any moment.
On that basis the article constitutes progress.
Now we just need our self appointed know all elites to recognise that the events they fear are over 100 years away (more likely even far longer than that if ever) which gives us plenty of time to stabilise world population growth, find more sustainable energy supplies and live within the resources that the Earth can provide without junking the systems that got us this far in the first place.
Just ran across a comment appearing to fit the situation here:
“I don’t know if the world is filled with smart men bluffing, or imbeciles who mean it.”
Oh dear, Jared Diamond?
I read his book Guns, Germs and Steel after seeing the cover littered with glowing reviews. But I have rarely seen such a pish posh of opinion and subjective reasoning masquerading as science in all my life. Just awful, and I couldn’t get more than halfway.
From the Sidebar:
This week in activism
Mermaids protested the oil spill as an anti-abortion group delivered fetus dolls to Capitol Hill.
Probably safer to be a unicorn or a hobbit.
We HUMANS could be EXTINCT by 2050 because politicians are not considering sufficiently strong action.
This author is so TOUGH he wouldn’t survive 3 minutes against Bugs Bunny.
A famine is a widespread scarcity of food that may apply to any faunal species.(Wiki)
Cold and flooding of agricultural areas would be far worse than any heat as this planet has infinately proven the ability to adapt with new species for OUR food supply.
Species only have a certain cycle span on this planet before changing by the constantly modifying planet occurs. If the next dominate species is smarter, they would be able to listen and communicate much better allowing ANY new science to be looked at without greed or corruptive influences surpressing and blocking for influencial gains and science would be far more advanced and truthful.
“We HUMANS could be EXTINCT by 2050 ”
Wow! I never thought I’d live to see that. Oh, errr, wait a minute… :o)
Gosh, I’ll have to remember that 37 degrees is a killer next time I’m outside in Libya where I now work and live and it’s 48 like it was all week 3 weeks ago…
Thanks, CTM. I too am without comment.
It’s not an article, it’s a posted comment. Sure it’s stupid, but 87.3% of comment posts are stupid, and 76.9% of them use made up statistics.
By the way, the idea that global warming could cause a rise in the number and severity of natural methane-air explosions is not of itself stupid. It would seem all but inevitable. I’ve never heard of anyone being killed by one in the open air though (in mines and enclosed buildings, yes).
Neil Jones: I rather liked the idea of painting mountains. On a large enough scale, using crop sprayer aircraft, it might actually work. For cities in warmer climates, white roofs would beneficially mitigate the UHI effect, which can be quite unpleasant.
Interesting website.
“Congress.org is a nonpartisan news and information Web site devoted to encouraging civic participation. Our mission is to provide information about public policy issues of the day and tips on effective advocacy so that citizens can make their voices heard.”
They claim over 8 million letters sent to congress.
Seems like maybe we could use sites like this to get OUR views heard as well?
(Mwahahahaha) 😉
JimB
“a publication of CQ-Roll Call Group “
With links to this week in activism. etc.
I think Joe McCarthy was right.
I’m not surprised, because AWG is a kind of religion. If you are threated, you’ll pay any sum of money for saving. Just like in the church.
A google news search for “global warming” shows that they are turning the BS level up to 11 recently.
I too have registered (for what it’s worth) my view that the article is offensive but came across this one:
http://www.congress.org/news/2010/06/28/byrds_death_may_shift_climate_debate
which suggests that whoever’s the next senator may have rather different views from Byrd, with any luck.
Then maybe you haven’t seen this one:
Climate change creates extra space debris
http://www.nu.nl/wetenschap/2279886/klimaatverandering-zorgt-extra-ruimteafval–.html (Published om June 28. 2010 at the Science-section of this Dutch news-website)
The story is about the extra CO2 that makes the atmosphere COOLER (at 300 km up there) and therefore less dense, which causes debris to experience less resistance, which makes debris stay longer in orbit before it drops to earth.
Now it’s COOLER? And it’s caused by CO2?
OMG, will the craziness never stop? You couldn’t make it up.
Well, at least there is one right sentence: “We HUMANS could be EXTINCT by 2050 because politicians are not considering sufficiently strong action.”
Humans and politicians ARE two different species 😉
But … but ….. isn’t this what the deep greens want?
Yes there will be deaths. First of all, there always have been deaths. The heat waves in arizona leave very few extra deaths. We will have deaths because the Liberals tax energy and poor people have electric shut off. Many people are in A/Cand can’t notice heat increases. Of course is is less than a degree.
Joe Bastardi discussed this very idea, mocking doomsday predictions like this. He said that the AGW crowd is desperate because they know they are running out of time, not because of the November elections, but because a major cold period is coming.
http://www.accuweather.com/video/103968440001/major-cooling-on-the-way-worldwide.asp?channel=vbbastaj
(Unfortunately, this is a La Nina year, which means where I live, in North Carolina, a lot of hot and dry weather, even in the winter.)
And they wonder why we laugh at the ever increasing “hysteria”. It seems that the less we see in real world data the more wild the speculation gets.
Methane fuel-air explosions sound great though. I sense a new tourism opportunity opening up for someone.
The future… “Here be Dragons”.
Sry, I didn’t see that Vuk etc. (June 29, 2010 at 3:56 am) already mentioned the same story.
My 100th birthday will be in October 2050. Hope they mean the end of the year, I’d hate to miss my party. I’ll see if can age quicker to have the party a few years earlier.
June last year I was wearing a T shirt here in Sydney, now it’s so damn cold I need thermals. Tonight there will be widespread frosts inland – yes we will all be extinct in 40 years —- FROM COLD