R.I.P. El Niño

By Steve Goddard

El Niño made it’s last gasp this week. Note that SST’s in the equatorial Pacific went from above normal to below normal during the past few days.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/sst/plots.php

Is there a La Niña on the way? Most of the models said no in April, though it appears they may be already wrong – given that they forecast positive ENSO through the summer. Two models forecast a very strong La Niña.

http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/products/analysis_monitoring/enso_advisory/ensodisc.pdf

The last El Niño to La Niña transition occurred in 2007, and caused a sharp drop in GISS global temperatures.

http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/gistemp/from:2006.9/to:2008.1

Most of the US had a miserably cold winter during the recently deceased El Niño.  It is not pleasant to think what a cold La Niña winter might bring.

http://www.hprcc.unl.edu/maps/current/index.php?action=update_userdate&daterange=DJF&year=10

Here was my prediction from February, 2010 :

Flashback to 2007 – SST To Plunge Again?

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May 13, 2010 11:42 pm

In addition to short term el’Nino cycle it is possible to isolate a longer term cycle, which coincides with the less familiar 107 year solar cycles.
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/LFC22.htm
There appears to be a certain geomagnetic trend in the Pacific equatorial area (el’Nino’s birth place) which closely correlates to the global temperature trends.
http://www.vukcevic.talktalk.net/LFC20.htm

Jack Jennings (aus)
May 14, 2010 12:03 am

I always feel inhibited from commenting by the intellectual sophistication of this site but since we’ve desended to grammatically correct lizards, I feel right at home. Glad you spotted the spelling bee ctm.
Could we not get a grant for fitting the lizards with wee parasols to save them from the infernal spotless sun?
Sorry a bit jaded over the sudden shelving of the “greatess moral challenge of our time” ie ETS (Emissions trading scheme) but the hunt for the thermometer in !&$& Svalbard was a hoot and reminds me of when I became a reader of this blog during the Chinese weather station stuff.
Looking forward to Anthony’s visit to Aus.
Cheers all, great posts and thanks to moderators as always.

phlogiston
May 14, 2010 12:44 am

Obama’s cabal of extremists will now move into panic-stricken mode to get their CO2 legislation passed. I hope it passes – this economic self-flagellation will serve them right for lynching the Brits for what was an American blunder on the gulf oil platform.

May 14, 2010 12:51 am

Richard M asked, “What about the OHC? Any recent data available?”
The NODC has not yet provided a first quarter update for 2010 for its global OHC data.

May 14, 2010 1:01 am

Mike Davis: You wrote, “ENSO is based on 3 month averages.”
Actually, the ONI Index, NOAA’s official ENSO index, is based on 3-month averages. NOAA, however, does publish weekly data for the NINO regions:
http://www.cpc.noaa.gov/data/indices/wksst.for
The ONI index is based on the NINO3.4 SST anomalies.

Don V
May 14, 2010 1:17 am

I’m a little new to this site but have been quite impressed with the solid science that behind most of the subissions. Being new, I may have missed something that you all have already read before and take for granted. So at the risk of sounding a little naive, I thought I would ask anyways, and hope that someone would take the time to bring me up to speed.
Looking at the area in the Pacific Ocean, just off of the west coast of equatorial South America where the El Nino condition is supposed to have been in full force and is shown to dwindle down, I note something that to me looks quite suspicious. Is it normal for a tight narrow line of heat anomaly to line up right on the equator and extend off of the coast of South America out into the Pacific for thousands of miles, almost like tracer fire from a gun? Is it normal for there to be such a narrow band of heat anomaly? It would seem to me that a more normal “distribution” of equatorial heat anomaly to look more like what is showing up off of the coast of Africa. The only thing to me that would explain this narrow ridge of heat anomaly that seems to jet off of the coast of S. America would be an extremely narrow Pacific current. But could this also be another example of temp data bias? Are there a string of temperature acquiring buoys along the equator?

Tony Hansen
May 14, 2010 1:21 am

Jack Jennings
The “greatest moral challenge of our time” is apparently not as important as getting re-elected.

May 14, 2010 1:27 am

Sera asked, “How long will it remain neutral?”
Dunno. If NINO3.4 SST anomalies were to transition to a La Nina, and if they were to continue at the same rate of decline since their peak in December, they’d reach -0.5 deg C in late August. But El Nino Modoki typically do not transition to a La Nina:
http://bobtisdale.blogspot.com/2010/05/typical-average-el-nino-traditional-el.html

RR Kampen
May 14, 2010 1:36 am

Most of the US had a miserably cold winter during the recently deceased El Niño. It is not pleasant to think what a cold La Niña winter might bring.
On the other hand, it is rather pleasant to think wat a warm La Niña winter would bring…

May 14, 2010 1:42 am

I hate to be pedantic about spelling, but engine oil is a viscous fluid and has measurable viscosity.
Masked bandits tend to be vicious if one thwarts their evil intent..

old construction worker
May 14, 2010 1:43 am

It is is it? Where Bill Clinton when you need him

May 14, 2010 1:43 am

Amino Acids in Meteorites: Thanks for the links to Joe Bastardi’s forecasts. He keeps mentioning a cold PDO, but the PDO is positive:
http://jisao.washington.edu/pdo/PDO.latest
The North Pacific SST anomalies may be dropping…
http://i43.tinypic.com/974opz.png
…but the PDO is not.

old construction worker
May 14, 2010 1:52 am

Opps. I left out ( ‘s ) as in where is Bill…..

Expat in France
May 14, 2010 2:02 am

Spelling. I’d like to add my tuppenceworth.
There are important differences between:
There, their, and they’re
Too, to and two
Loose, and lose
And definite doesn’t have an ‘a’ in it.
It may seem pedantic and picky, but the whole intended meaning of a statement or sentence often changes with the misspelling of simple words, and a little care would avoid misunderstandings (typos notwithstanding!).

KenB
May 14, 2010 2:05 am

Its high time that WUWT sponsored a Global dunces hat award for the nuttiest CAGW theory – awarded by popular vote every three to six months. I’m sure we could secure a Media platform for presentation of the award.
Closely followed by model of the year for the most stupid Climate model.
KenB

May 14, 2010 2:21 am

I have noticed in the last couple weeks that weather presenters on BBC TV are frequently remarking on how far below historic average temeperatures the current daily temperatures are, but cheerfully tell us that it should be warmer ‘soon’ without giving us any evidence for their optimism, apart from the very obvious approach of Summer, while the MSM carries silly stories such as the very funny and terribly unscientific Great Lizard Extinction.
I know they are actually reptiles and not lizards, merely similar to lizards, but New Zealand’s Tuatara has survived for over 100 million years despite continental drift and considerable change in climactic conditions by their choice of appropriate habitats.
While fairly vicious and teratorial, the Tuatara cannot cope with predators such as rats, cats or dogs and none existed in its habitat until settlers from Polynesia arrived bringing their rats and dogs with them. Tuatara live in the wild on small offshore island wildlife reserves carefully kept free of predators, and in various institutions.
If these fascinating creatures have survived for so long, how long have various types of lizard been extant around the globe?

Editor
May 14, 2010 2:35 am

AEGeneral says: “… only to discover the rules of the English language had been re-written in order to accommodate the ignorant.
I regret to have to tell you that you have it the wrong way round. The actual process, which is that lexicographers do not promote “correct” English but simply record actual usage, ensures that virtually all changes to the language are made by the ignorant.

Editor
May 14, 2010 2:46 am

Anthony – Jack Jennings (aus) says you are coming to Aus.
If you might have time to give a talk to a highly respected scientific organisation in NSW, please email me.
[This comment should be in Contact. ~dbs, mod.]

drunkenson
May 14, 2010 2:53 am

A pedant is someone who interferes with small words

John Finn
May 14, 2010 2:56 am

peat says:
May 13, 2010 at 9:45 pm
I have been following the near surface temperature as measured by the satellite system overseen by Roy Spencer et al. http://discover.itsc.uah.edu/amsutemps/ Worldwide near-surface temperatures have been remarkably high for the better part of a year, especially recently. I had supposed this to be an El Niño effect, but now I’m not so sure. It looks like Earth’s average temperature in 2010 could clobber the 1998 record. As a skeptic who figured temperatures would remain flat or trend downward as we enter the next decade, this has my attention. How long should it take for near-surface temperatures to return to normal after the El Niño finishes? However, from the first graph in this article, it appears that the Atlantic Ocean is having its own kind of strong El Niño event.

Temperatures will fall as the El Nino fades and they will fall still further if a La Nina kicks in. ENSO fluctuations are the main reason why we get short-term flat or cooling trends in a long term underlying warming trend. The question, though, is this (and I’ve read Bob Tidsdale’s posts) – how much will temperatures fall. The 2007/08 La Nina was cold by recent standards but in the context of the longer term, it was the warmest La Nina in the UAH record. We’ve just experienced a fairly moderate El Nino but UAH temperatures have been rivalling those of 1998. There’s no evidence of a sustained long term fall in temepratutes despite the claimed effects of the PDO and weak solar activity. I keep hearing about thermal lag, but there was very little thermal lag in the 1940s or 197os when previous climate shifts occurred. A while back we were hearing about “cooling since 1998”. That’s gone quiet because it’s no longer true – surely a clear lesson in not relying on short term trends.
By all means be sceptical about the more exaggerated effects of CO2, but be just as sceptical about some of the claims by some sceptics. I’m not knocking Steve Goddard’s post – just the interpretation of future temperature falls by some posters.

kwik
May 14, 2010 3:10 am

Why not send out children in Green Police uniforms and let them paint the lizards white?
Yes we can!

JC
May 14, 2010 3:28 am

Currently we in NZ are enjoying temps 3-4 degrees above normal with April similarly mild. The projection is for the warmer weather to continue throughout the winter at 3 degrees above normal with odd flurries of cold.
I’ve got to go back to the mid 90s for a comparison to this.
JC

May 14, 2010 3:35 am

Lance says:
May 13, 2010 at 10:39 pm

Bunny,
Ironically, you used the wrong spelling of “there”.

Given the content, one has to hope that was deliberate.

DaveF
May 14, 2010 3:44 am

Sera 10:39pm
“Iz their uh inneret cite four englisch teechers?”
Yes. This is it. They come here to show us that they’re inlettigent, er, inettigelt, er, inglennitelt, er, brainy.

Steve Allen
May 14, 2010 3:58 am

Steve Goddard,
Why all the positive SST anomalies in the SH? I would think higher than normal SH SST’s would produce warmer than normal air temperatures, and thus a warmner than normal winter for the SH.