When the Guardian, that champion of everything “green” says it, you know it was a failure.
Excerpt:
The UN climate summit reached a weak outline of a global agreement last night in Copenhagen, falling far short of what Britain and many poor countries were seeking and leaving months of tough negotiations to come.
After eight draft texts and all-day talks between 115 world leaders, it was left to Barack Obama and Wen Jiabao, the Chinese premier, to broker a political agreement. The so-called Copenhagen accord “recognises” the scientific case for keeping temperature rises to no more than 2C but did not contain commitments to emissions reductions to achieve that goal.
American officials spun the deal as a “meaningful agreement”, but even Obama said: “This progress is not enough.”
“We have come a long way, but we have much further to go,” he added.
The deal was brokered between China, South Africa, India, Brazil and the US, but late last night it was still unclear whether it would be adopted by all 192 countries in the full plenary session.
The agreement aims to provide $30bn in funding for poor countries to adapt to climate change from next year to 2012, and $100bn a year after 2020.
But it disappointed African and other vulnerable countries who had been holding out for far deeper emission cuts to hold the global temperature rise to 1.5C this century. As widely expected, all references to 1.5C in previous drafts were removed at the last minute, but more surprisingly, the earlier 2050 goal of reducing global CO2 emissions by 80% was also dropped.
The agreement also set up a forestry deal which is hoped would significantly reduce deforestation in return for cash. It lacked the kind of independent verification of emission reductions by developing countries that the US and others demanded.
Obama hinted that China was to blame for the lack of a substantial deal. In a press conference he condemned the insistence of some countries to look backwards to previous environmental agreements. He said developing countries should be “getting out of that mindset, and moving towards the position where everybody recognises that we all need to move together”.
Read entire story at the Guardian here
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Now compare what the Guardian has written, to what Obama says:
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My summary of the Copenhagen Climate Conference is just a bit less wordy.
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canadaguy (08:41:13) :
Copenhagen has failed. The UN has failed to address the most important crisis in human history.
By “important crisis” I assume you mean the magical mythical “manmade warming” crisis? Not that it matters, since it doesn’t exist except in the fevered imaginations of climate bedwetters, but the UN couldn’t succeed in addressing an envelope, let alone some worldwide crisis.
Our fearless leader, Rudd says today:
“Australia will do no more and no less than the rest of the world, and that is our position”
We will take a strong stance of leading from the middle.
Hmmm… well, so much for that.
When I saw the news that a snowstorm was heading for Copenhagen, and that the US delegation had to return home early because of a noreaster threatening eastern North America, I thought to myself, “God DOES have a sense of humor! He really DOES!” 😀
Tenuc (10:47:57) :
Never forget that we, the population of the globe, have to embrace world government if it is to succeed.
I’d have to disagree. How many of the people in Europe embraced the EU Constitution or voted for the recently sworn in President of the EU. These folks don’t care a jot for what the people of their nations or the world want, because they all believe, in their heart of hearts, that they know much better than any of us what is good for us and what we need. Which, of course, is them endowed with the power to monitor and control every aspect of our lives. And they don’t require people to embrace their ideas, they only require that their constant propaganda campaigns and promises of something for nothing will be sufficient to prevent any real organized resistance from forming, until the groundwork has been laid for their plans. Once that is accomplished, the the dishonesty and thuggery, which they have demonstrated a complete willingness to utilize, till now in a somewhat restrained fashion, will be unleashed completely unrestrained. For examples of where that might lead, consider the histories of Stalin, Mao, and Castro, who shared their childishly naive vision of nature and human nature as totally malleable constructs, which only their lack of power to manipulate and control has prevented from achieving perfection.
As has been noted by many over the years the price of liberty is eternal vigilance. Unfortunately, that vigilance has always been subject to erosion by complacency, while the enemies of liberty have demonstrated, in what is perhaps their one halfway admirable quality, a dogged persistence in pursuit of their goals. That persistence has brought them to the very threshold of success and no setbacks imaginable are likely to dissuade them from crossing it. The only thing that could possibly stop them is a worldwide movement in support of freedom and liberty possessed of an equal level of passion and persistence. But you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone, and freedom and liberty, once achieved, are all to easy to take for granted. In contemplating the future it seems that the question of humanity’s descent into total despotism is no longer one of if, but one of when. I desperately hope that I am wrong about this, but clinging to that hope becomes increasingly difficult, with each passing day.
They made a movie recently about a planetary apocalypse coming in 2012, and in reading about it I found I couldn’t resist the thought that if such a scenario did manifest itself, our fate would be in many ways richly deserved. The history of humankind has been a long and halting struggle to achieve a world where any individual is free to live as he chooses. Our willingness to sacrifice the freedom to live to an illusory freedom from want has been an abject betrayal of all who suffered and died to advance humanity’s cause and I personally have felt a mounting sense of shame that my own efforts to stop the “Barbarians at the Gate” have been so much less than was merited by the stakes in this struggle.
Monckton rocks,nuff said.
“Eurostar cancels all trains for tomorrow, citing severe French weather”:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aGDloKGcw9W8&pos=9
tokyoboy (00:43:02) :
“Sorry OT, but I now would like to identify CRU mail(s) stating someone has actually deleted data file(s) to circumvent FOIA requests from “contrarians”.
Anyone in the know please help me.”
Find anything in the searchable database of all the emails
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/index.php
Oh WTH , I’ll do it for you
http://www.bing.com/search?q=searchable+database+FOI+climate+email+delete&go=&form=QBRE&filt=all&qs=n
Try the first result. That should work.
My bad. The first link supersedes the second in my post above.
Paul Vaughan (12:36:52) :
[“Tenuc (10:47:57) “We just need to organise ourselves better.”}
“The time is ripe for the emergence of new, more pure, competing environmentalisms. [It is telling that the spell-checker does not even recognize the plural of this word – unity is assumed.]”
Totally agree. The current ‘green’ movement is based on the believe than mankind is harmful to the planet. A new paradigm is needed which is based on solid scientific knowledge so that humanity can prosper in a sustainable way. Until we have developed the wisdom to understand the impact we are having on the ecosystem, the wrong decisions will keep being made.
There were only 190 countries at the Copenhagen Conference…..and they couldn’t arrive at a consensus on temperature limits. How in the heck did Al Gore get a consensus out of 5000 scientists?
i guess mankinds future will just have to wait till the weathers better.
Thanks nanny_govt_sucks (22:25:11) : What a great holiday present. Let’s DANCE!,
That’s a great selection: #COP15 Dancing on the Grave of #Copenhagen! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY
Re: Jim Watson (20:50:25) :
“Hugo Chavez had it wrong: The “ghost” haunting Copenhagen wasn’t Capitalism.
It was Climategate.”
That’s right, Jim, it was Climategate, even though Communism brought back from 2 decades in “cryogenic freeze” was featured prominently in the proceedings.
Check out this compilation:
“Anatomy of Copenhagen’s Obaminable Failure” http://bit.ly/67SSmT
The next step is to get behind the Realist Scientists on this issue and push the re-evaluation of the data, assumptions, and theory, on a broad front.
Dave Wendt (13:50:33) :
“[Tenuc (10:47:57) :
Never forget that we, the population of the globe, have to embrace world government if it is to succeed.”]
“I’d have to disagree. How many of the people in Europe embraced the EU Constitution or voted for the recently sworn in President of the EU. These folks don’t care a jot for what the people of their nations or the world want, because they all believe, in their heart of hearts, that they know much better than any of us what is good for us and what we need.”
Dave, I agree that what is happening to create an USE (United States of Europe) is dispicable and probably against the will of the people; we don’t know because we weren’t allowed a vote. However, forming a world government is an order of magnitude above this in level of difficulty. If it was forced through without a large public agreement it would cause the very conflict it was being set up to prevent.
E. M. Smith,
“Copenhagen is over, time to move on to the EPA…”
I presume that means emissions will be controlled by direct regulation and will not involve trading CO2. If so, this denies the main actors the means to enrich themselves through the scam. That in one sense represents their defeat. In another sense it is everyone’s defeat.
The headline from the “scientific” journal New Scientist “Copenhagen chaos sets world on track for 3.5C”. “scientists at the talks said it would set the world on a path to 3.5 ºC of warming by 2100”
The present temperature trend since Nov 1997 is slightly negative. If the temperature is to increase by 3.5C by 2100, the trend has to dramatically increase to more than 0.4C/decade. Even a trend of 0.2C/ decade lies outside the ±95% uncertainty intervals at the moment.
Mother nature doesnt seem to be following the instructions of the scientists talking in Copenhagen.
The global warming people have neither given up, nor gone away.
This is from the British Brainwashing Corporation
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8423097.stm
“Hopes for Mexico
Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), told India’s NDTV news channel: “We will have to build on it. We will have to make sure it moves quickly towards the status of a legally binding agreement and therefore I think the task for the global community is cut out.”
Global warming: A future glimpse
Germany will host the next climate change conference in six months in Bonn, to follow up the work of the Copenhagen summit.
The final outcome is supposed to be sealed at a conference in Mexico City at the end of 2010.”
michael savage said it best this week about the weather in Copenhagen during the summit – “God is mocking them”
give it a name (Irony, bad luck, divine intervention), but this type of weather follows these idiots wherever they go. Although I am skeptical of all things religious, it does raise my spirits to think that there may be something watching over us and protecting us. We certainly need it. the other side is too large, too well organized and funded, and too well connected.
the majority of US population is asleep and/or stupid. is Hope and change working out for anyone out there?
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2009/12/18/czech-president-klaus-global-warming-science-new-religion/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+foxnews%252Fscitech+%2528FOXNews.com+-+SciTech%2529
“Klaus, the second president of the Czech Republic since the fall of communism, is often called the Margaret Thatcher of Central Europe. In the interview, he sounded more like Winston Churchill, vowing to defend liberty and freedom from those who would restrain global economic growth.
“I’m absolutely convinced that the very small global warming we are experiencing is the result of natural causes,” Klaus told FoxNews.com. “It’s a cyclical phenomenon in the history of the Earth. The role of man is very small, almost negligible.””
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“We’ll be the victims of irrational ideology. They will try to dictate to us how to live, what to do, how to behave,” Klaus said. “What to eat, travel, and what my children should have. This is something that we who lived in the communist era for most of our lives — we still feel very strongly about. We are very sensitive in this respect. And we feel various similarities in their way of arguing or not arguing. In the way of pushing ahead ideas regardless of rational counter-arguments.”
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“I lived in a communist world where politicians told us what to do,” Klaus said. “I don’t think politicians or presidents should suggest to firms what to do. That has always been a mistake.”
Hypenhagen is just the first victory of the truth campaign.
Now we can keep pushing back until the AGW scam joins eugenics and tulip manias and other popular delusions in the ash heap of history.
Kate (04:02:24) :
“Hopes for Mexico
Rajendra Pachauri: … “Germany will host the next climate change conference in six months in Bonn, to follow up the work of the Copenhagen summit.”
Kate, I believe Pachauri was confused – that conference already happened back in June. There is no climate change conference scheduled in Bonn (or none that I can find) for 2010.
There is a push by Gore, Brown, and others to try to re-schedule COP16 for this summer, though.
Quote: “Darn! Now we’re all going to fry because Al Gore won’t get a chance to turn the heat down with his billion dollar thermostat.”
Darn! Now we’re all going to fry because Al Gore has turned up the heat at the earth’s core to several million degrees with his billion dollar thermostat.”
There, fixed it! 🙂
Kate (04:02:24) : The global warming people have neither given up, nor gone away.
They never will. Not even if the world cools. Its not about Global Warming its about the money.
Why else would warnings of doom get ever more frantic? “Scientists at the talks said it would set the world on a path to 3.5 ºC of warming by 2100.
They say this when the very latest temperature records at the moment are showing we are not even on course for a 1 ºC warming and even bets for a cooling.
Hopefully mother nature will make it more difficult for them to convince the world of Global warming in 2010. But mother nature is neutral. She goes along her merry way oblivious and unconcerned with the political meetings and taxes to decide her fate.
#COP15 Media Liars: Interesting how this report http://bit.ly/8Dozj1 does not jive with this video http://bit.ly/7eD2p7 in #Copenhagen.
Re: Kate (03:34:28)
Can you (or anyone else) provide link(s) to articles about nature preserves / parks being destroyed to make way for windmills &/or solar panels? (This is the kind of thing that sets me off like nothing else.)