Cold start to fall continues, 252 more low temperature records set in the USA this week

More new record lows, lowest max temperature, and snowfall this week. The new low records outnumber the high records. There were an impressive number of Lowest Max Temperature records set also, 1129.

USA_records_1017-1024-2009

Source Hamweather climate center and NOAA/NWS

Here’s a listing of the record events by category:

Record Events for Sat Oct 17, 2009 through Fri Oct 23, 2009
Total Records: 2682
Rainfall: 812
Snowfall: 72
High Temperatures: 152
Low Temperatures: 252
Lowest Max Temperatures: 1129
Highest Min Temperatures: 265

Here’s a list of the new low temperature records:

State Location Date New Record

(°F)

Previous Record

(°F)

AL Alexander City Mon, 19 Oct 2009 33 34 in 2001
AL Ashland, 3 miles ENE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 31 33 in 1978
AL Belle Mina, 2 miles N of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 30 32 in 1955
AL Belle Mina, 2 miles N of Sun, 18 Oct 2009 33 33 in 2001
AL Bessemer, 3 miles WSW of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 34 35 in 1996
AL Camp Hill, 2 miles NW of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 32 32 in 1975
AL Centreville, 6 miles SW of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 32 32 in 1989
AL Dauphin Is #2 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 46 46 in 1989
AL Dothan Faa Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 37 37 in 1948
AL Fairhope, 2 miles NE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 37 37 in 1948
AL Fairhope, 2 miles NE of Tue, 20 Oct 2009 37 37 in 1989
AL Gadsden Mon, 19 Oct 2009 35 35 in 1955
AL Geneva #2 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 35 35 in 1977
AL Greenville Mon, 19 Oct 2009 33 35 in 2001
AL Guntersville Mon, 19 Oct 2009 37 37 in 1992
AL Headland Mon, 19 Oct 2009 38 38 in 1996
AL Headland Sun, 18 Oct 2009 38 39 in 1977
AL Highland Home Mon, 19 Oct 2009 31 36 in 1967
AL Huntsville Intl Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 34 35 in 1992
AL Lafayette, 2 miles W of Wed, 21 Oct 2009 30 31 in 2006
AL Mobile Downtown Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 41 41 in 1948
AL Moulton 2 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 32 35 in 1996
AL Opelika Mon, 19 Oct 2009 32 33 in 1978
AL Sand Mt Substn Mon, 19 Oct 2009 32 33 in 2001
AL Thorsby Exp Stn Mon, 19 Oct 2009 33 37 in 2001
AL Wetumpka Mon, 19 Oct 2009 33 33 in 1943
AR Alicia, 2 miles NNE of Sun, 18 Oct 2009 34 34 in 1978
AR Fayetteville Drake Field Sun, 18 Oct 2009 29 30 in 1996
AR Fayetteville Faa Ap Sun, 18 Oct 2009 29 29 in 1959
AR Hot Springs Mmrl Field Sun, 18 Oct 2009 36 37 in 1978
AR Mena Mon, 19 Oct 2009 33 33 in 1990
AR Murfreesboro, 1 miles W of Sun, 18 Oct 2009 34 35 in 1976
AR North Little Rock Wfo Sun, 18 Oct 2009 37 41 in 1989
AR Paragould, 1 miles S of Sun, 18 Oct 2009 37 37 in 1982
AR Subiaco Sun, 18 Oct 2009 34 34 in 1922
CA Oakland Museum Tue, 20 Oct 2009 51 51 in 2004
CO Akron, 1 miles N of Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22 23 in 2006
CO John Martin Dam Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21 22 in 1976
CO Lake Moraine Mon, 19 Oct 2009 4 8 in 1916
CO Lake Moraine Sun, 18 Oct 2009 2 2 in 1917
CO Lake Moraine Sat, 17 Oct 2009 2 9 in 1948
CT Groton New London Ap Tue, 20 Oct 2009 30 32 in 2003
FL Apalachicola Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 43 46 in 1989
FL Apalachicola Ap Sun, 18 Oct 2009 43 43 in 1977
FL Brooksville Chin Hill Mon, 19 Oct 2009 41 43 in 1927
FL Clermont, 9 miles S of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 46 47 in 1977
FL Clermont, 9 miles S of Sun, 18 Oct 2009 46 48 in 1977
FL Crestview Bob Sikes Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 33 37 in 1978
FL Cross City Airport Mon, 19 Oct 2009 37 42 in 1954
FL Devils Garden Mon, 19 Oct 2009 49 56 in 1964
FL Devils Garden Tue, 20 Oct 2009 49 50 in 1997
FL Ft Lauderdale Intl Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 57 63 in 1977
FL Ft Lauderdale Intl Ap Sun, 18 Oct 2009 56 60 in 1977
FL Ft Myers Page Fld Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 50 54 in 1927
FL Ft Pierce Mon, 19 Oct 2009 49 50 in 1927
FL Gainesville Rgnl Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 41 43 in 1967
FL High Springs Mon, 19 Oct 2009 39 40 in 1996
FL Jacksonville Intl Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 43 43 in 1981
FL Jasper Mon, 19 Oct 2009 38 38 in 1955
FL Key West Intl Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 65 69 in 2000
FL Key West Nas Mon, 19 Oct 2009 66 70 in 1967
FL Kissimmee 2 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 48 48 in 1977
FL La Belle Tue, 20 Oct 2009 48 50 in 1955
FL La Belle Mon, 19 Oct 2009 48 48 in 1977
FL Lake City, 2 miles E of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 39 41 in 1943
FL Lisbon Sun, 18 Oct 2009 47 47 in 1977
FL Live Oak Mon, 19 Oct 2009 38 38 in 1967
FL Marianna Caa Ap Sun, 18 Oct 2009 40 43 in 1954
FL Marianna Caa Ap Tue, 20 Oct 2009 41 41 in 1955
FL Mayo Sun, 18 Oct 2009 34 34 in 1977
FL Mayo Mon, 19 Oct 2009 36 36 in 1977
FL Melbourne Wfo Mon, 19 Oct 2009 49 52 in 1977
FL Miami Intl Ap Sun, 18 Oct 2009 60 62 in 1977
FL Miami Intl Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 59 62 in 1955
FL Naples Tue, 20 Oct 2009 52 54 in 1955
FL Naples Mon, 19 Oct 2009 52 52 in 1977
FL Oasis Rs Sun, 18 Oct 2009 57 61 in 1981
FL Okeechobee Mon, 19 Oct 2009 48 52 in 1977
FL Okeechobee Tue, 20 Oct 2009 49 55 in 1989
FL Orlando Sanford Airport Sun, 18 Oct 2009 47 53 in 1977
FL Orlando Sanford Airport Sat, 17 Oct 2009 52 53 in 1977
FL Orlando Sanford Airport Mon, 19 Oct 2009 50 50 in 1955
FL Orlando Wso Ap Sun, 18 Oct 2009 49 54 in 1954
FL Saint Leo Sun, 18 Oct 2009 46 47 in 1977
FL Sarasota Mon, 19 Oct 2009 51 55 in 1974
FL St Petersburg Clearwater Intl Mon, 19 Oct 2009 51 57 in 2001
FL St Petersburg Clearwater Intl Sun, 18 Oct 2009 53 57 in 2001
FL Stuart Mon, 19 Oct 2009 53 56 in 1955
FL Tallahassee Wso Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 36 39 in 1992
FL Tampa Wscmo Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 48 52 in 1977
FL Usher Twr Mon, 19 Oct 2009 38 41 in 1967
FL Vero Beach, 4 miles SE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 48 49 in 1977
FL Vero Beach, 4 miles SE of Tue, 20 Oct 2009 49 51 in 1989
FL Vero Beach Intl Ap Sun, 18 Oct 2009 47 50 in 1977
FL Vero Beach Intl Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 50 55 in 1955
FL West Palm Bch Intl Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 54 58 in 1977
FL West Palm Bch Intl Ap Sun, 18 Oct 2009 52 57 in 1977
FL Winter Haven Sun, 18 Oct 2009 41 47 in 1977
FL Winter Haven Tue, 20 Oct 2009 43 47 in 1989
FL Winter Haven Sat, 17 Oct 2009 44 47 in 1943
GA Albany Caa Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 38 39 in 1948
GA Albany Sw Ga Rgnl Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 38 39 in 1996
GA Allatoona Dam 2 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 33 35 in 1978
GA Alma Bacon Co Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 40 40 in 1948
GA Ashburn, 3 miles ENE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 38 39 in 2001
GA Athens Ben Epps Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 33 34 in 1948
GA Atlanta Fulton County Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 32 33 in 2001
GA Augusta Bush Fld Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 34 34 in 1981
GA Blakely Mon, 19 Oct 2009 38 38 in 1948
GA Brunswick Mon, 19 Oct 2009 43 45 in 1927
GA Brunswick Mckinnon Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 45 46 in 1989
GA Cairo, 3 miles NW of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 37 40 in 1948
GA Camilla, 3 miles SE of Tue, 20 Oct 2009 35 35 in 1989
GA Cartersville Mon, 19 Oct 2009 30 30 in 1978
GA Cedartown Tue, 20 Oct 2009 29 30 in 1996
GA Cuthbert Sun, 18 Oct 2009 37 37 in 1907
GA Cuthbert Mon, 19 Oct 2009 37 37 in 1948
GA Cuthbert Wed, 21 Oct 2009 35 35 in 1989
GA Dallas, 7 miles NE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 31 32 in 2001
GA Homerville, 5 miles N of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 36 38 in 2008
GA Jasper, 1 miles NNW of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 30 30 in 1948
GA Louisville, 1 miles E of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 35 36 in 1930
GA Macon Middle Ga Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 35 36 in 1996
GA Moultrie, 2 miles ESE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 39 41 in 1967
GA Nahunta, 6 miles NE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 33 37 in 1967
GA Nahunta, 6 miles NE of Tue, 20 Oct 2009 33 37 in 1989
GA Sandersville Mon, 19 Oct 2009 36 36 in 1976
GA Sapelo Is Mon, 19 Oct 2009 45 45 in 1992
GA Savannah Intl Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 40 42 in 1996
GA Siloam, 3 miles N of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 32 33 in 2001
GA Thomasville, 3 miles NE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 39 39 in 1954
GA U Of Ga Plt Sci Mon, 19 Oct 2009 34 35 in 1996
GA Valdosta Regional Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 37 39 in 1948
GA Warrenton Mon, 19 Oct 2009 35 35 in 1948
GA Warrenton Tue, 20 Oct 2009 32 32 in 1996
GA Waycross, 4 miles NE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 36 36 in 1967
HI Honolulu Observ 702.2 Sat, 17 Oct 2009 66 66 in 1999
HI Waimanalo Exp F 795.1 Sat, 17 Oct 2009 66 66 in 1970
IL Cairo, 3 miles N of Sun, 18 Oct 2009 32 33 in 1948
IL Cairo, 3 miles N of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 32 34 in 1972
IN Indianapolis Se Side Sun, 18 Oct 2009 27 28 in 1976
IN Muncie Ball State Univ Sun, 18 Oct 2009 26 28 in 1982
KS Mound Valley, 3 miles WSW of Sun, 18 Oct 2009 28 29 in 1952
KS Olathe Johnson Co Industrial A Sun, 18 Oct 2009 30 30 in 1999
KS Toronto Lake Sun, 18 Oct 2009 32 32 in 1976
KY Jamestown Wwtp Mon, 19 Oct 2009 29 30 in 2008
KY London Faa Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 29 30 in 1996
KY Monticello, 3 miles NE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 28 29 in 2001
LA Galliano Sun, 18 Oct 2009 47 47 in 1977
LA Hackberry, 8 miles SSW of Wed, 21 Oct 2009 40 40 in 1976
MA Bedford Hanscom Field Sat, 17 Oct 2009 27 27 in 1945
MA Hyannis Barnstable Muni Ap Tue, 20 Oct 2009 30 32 in 1990
MA Taunton Municipal Ap Tue, 20 Oct 2009 26 26 in 2003
MA Vineyard Haven Marthas Vineyar Tue, 20 Oct 2009 26 27 in 2003
MD Patuxent River Nas Mon, 19 Oct 2009 37 37 in 1972
ME Bangor Ap Sat, 17 Oct 2009 27 28 in 1980
ME Brassua Dam Sun, 18 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1939
ME Brassua Dam Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1978
ME Caribou Wfo Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22 22 in 2000
ME Ft Kent Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19 19 in 2000
ME Houlton Ap Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19 19 in 2000
ME Long Falls Dam Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18 21 in 1979
ME Long Falls Dam Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18 20 in 1978
ME Millinocket Faa Ap Sat, 17 Oct 2009 24 26 in 1986
ME Millinocket Municipal Ap Sun, 18 Oct 2009 25 26 in 1953
ME Rumford, 1 miles SSE of Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21 22 in 1979
MI Bad Axe Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23 24 in 1972
MI Detroit City Ap Sun, 18 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1952
MI Detroit City Ap Sun, 18 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1952
MI Harbor Beach, 1 miles SSE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 26 26 in 1974
MI Hart Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23 26 in 1974
MI Hart Sun, 18 Oct 2009 23 26 in 1901
MI Houghton Lk Roscommon Sun, 18 Oct 2009 18 18 in 1972
MO Buffalo, 2 miles N of Sun, 18 Oct 2009 29 30 in 1987
MO California Sun, 18 Oct 2009 29 29 in 1999
MO Cassville Rs Sun, 18 Oct 2009 29 30 in 2002
MO Columbia Rgnl Ap Sun, 18 Oct 2009 30 30 in 1976
MS Holly Springs, 4 miles N of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 30 31 in 1996
MS Independence, 1 miles W of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 32 33 in 1996
MS Independence, 1 miles W of Sun, 18 Oct 2009 32 32 in 2001
MS Wiggins Tue, 20 Oct 2009 25 30 in 1964
MS Woodville, 4 miles ESE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 35 38 in 1989
NC Bent Creek Mon, 19 Oct 2009 28 28 in 2001
NC Black Mtn, 2 miles W of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 27 28 in 2001
NC Charlotte Douglas Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 30 31 in 1948
NC Elizabeth City Faa Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 37 38 in 1948
NC Enka Mon, 19 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1948
NC Lincolnton, 4 miles W of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 28 29 in 2001
NC Yadkinville, 6 miles E of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 28 28 in 2001
NE Mccook Municipal Ap Sat, 17 Oct 2009 28 28 in 2002
NH Pinkham Notch Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21 22 in 1978
NY Auburn Mon, 19 Oct 2009 26 26 in 1940
NY Massena Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 21 21 in 2008
NY Westhampton Gabreski Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 28 34 in 1999
NY Westhampton Gabreski Ap Tue, 20 Oct 2009 28 31 in 2008
OH Cambridge Mon, 19 Oct 2009 27 28 in 1992
OH Lima Wwtp Mon, 19 Oct 2009 26 26 in 1972
OH Norwalk Wwtp Sun, 18 Oct 2009 21 24 in 1939
OH Sidney, 1 miles S of Sun, 18 Oct 2009 26 28 in 1982
OH Warren, 3 miles S of Sun, 18 Oct 2009 25 25 in 1972
OK Seminole Sun, 18 Oct 2009 35 35 in 1999
OK Tuskahoma Sun, 18 Oct 2009 35 36 in 1976
PA Altoona Faa Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 26 26 in 2008
PA Chalk Hill, 2 miles ENE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 25 26 in 2008
PA Clarion, 3 miles SW of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19 24 in 1974
PA Clarion, 3 miles SW of Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19 20 in 1972
PA Erie Wso Ap Sun, 18 Oct 2009 28 28 in 1974
PA Huntingdon Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18 23 in 2008
PA Johnstown Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 27 27 in 1992
PA Pittsburgh Allegheny Co Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 27 28 in 1976
SC Anderson Co Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 33 33 in 1978
SC Andrews Mon, 19 Oct 2009 39 40 in 2001
SC Calhoun Falls Mon, 19 Oct 2009 33 34 in 1973
SC Greenville Wb Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 33 33 in 1896
SC Grnvl Spart Intl Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 32 33 in 1976
SC Little Mtn Mon, 19 Oct 2009 32 34 in 1948
SC Orangeburg 2 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 35 36 in 1973
SC Pageland Mon, 19 Oct 2009 34 34 in 1992
SC Pickens Mon, 19 Oct 2009 30 32 in 1996
SC Saluda Mon, 19 Oct 2009 32 32 in 1976
SD Cedar Butte, 1 miles NE of Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17 18 in 1976
TN Ames Plantation Mon, 19 Oct 2009 32 32 in 1990
TN Athens Mon, 19 Oct 2009 29 31 in 1978
TN Cleveland Fltr Plt Mon, 19 Oct 2009 30 31 in 1978
TN Cookeville Mon, 19 Oct 2009 30 30 in 1992
TN Crossville Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 29 30 in 1981
TN Dayton, 2 miles SE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 31 33 in 1978
TN Erwin, 1 miles W of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 29 29 in 2001
TN Knoxville Exp Stn Mon, 19 Oct 2009 31 31 in 1992
TN Livingston Radio Wliv Mon, 19 Oct 2009 29 29 in 2001
TN Neapolis Exp Stn Mon, 19 Oct 2009 30 30 in 2001
TN Sewanee Sun, 18 Oct 2009 31 32 in 2001
TN Sewanee Mon, 19 Oct 2009 33 35 in 1925
TN Smithville, 2 miles SE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 29 30 in 2001
TX Dumas Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23 24 in 1989
TX Dumas Sun, 18 Oct 2009 24 26 in 1952
TX Falfurrias Mon, 19 Oct 2009 47 48 in 1948
TX Falfurrias Sun, 18 Oct 2009 47 47 in 1975
TX Hebbronville Sun, 18 Oct 2009 48 48 in 2001
TX Pampa 2 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 29 29 in 1996
TX Warren, 2 miles S of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 36 36 in 1967
UT Mexican Hat Sat, 17 Oct 2009 26 29 in 1980
VA Abingdon, 3 miles S of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 27 28 in 2001
VA Dale Enterprise Mon, 19 Oct 2009 25 25 in 1976
VA Staffordsville, 3 miles ENE of Mon, 19 Oct 2009 25 27 in 2001
VT Montpelier Ap Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20 20 in 1978
VT Newport Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19 22 in 1978
VT Newport Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20 20 in 1972
WV Clarksburg Benedum Fld Mon, 19 Oct 2009 26 27 in 1991
WV Huntington Swg Pl Mon, 19 Oct 2009 30 31 in 2001
WV Huntington Tri Mon, 19 Oct 2009 29 29 in 1992
WV Wheeling Ohio County Ap Mon, 19 Oct 2009 29 29 in 1992
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Basil
Editor
October 24, 2009 7:07 am

It has been unseasonably cool in Europe, too:
http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/products/climate/synop/td20091021_e.png
We’re in a weak El Nino right now, but from what I can tell, these weather patterns are not typical of El Nino for this time of the year. What’s up with that?

Basil
Editor
October 24, 2009 7:12 am

Barely on topic question: the current sunspot — isn’t it a bit low in latitude for a new cycle sunspot? Is it any indication of how fast this cycle is moving (and how few sunspots there will be in it)?
I’m not saying that the unusual weather is due to an unusual sunspot cycle. Or am I? 😉

Basil
Editor
October 24, 2009 7:16 am

Carlo (06:32:24) :
This is typical for a strong El Nino event.
🙂

Says who? Not according to this:
http://ds.data.jma.go.jp/tcc/tcc/products/climate/ENSO/shade/el_SON.png
Europe should be warmer than usual, and El Nino has no persistent effect on the US at this time of the year.
Or was the smilely intended as sarcasm, perhaps?

Icarus
October 24, 2009 7:23 am

This is what we would expect to see – natural short term fluctuations superimposed on the current long term global warming trend of 0.2°C per decade.

Don Shaw
October 24, 2009 7:28 am

You people make me sick with facts that contradict the overwhelming scientific evidence , just listen to your leader.
“Mr. Obama contended that opponents of the legislation are making “cynical claims that contradict the overwhelming scientific evidence when it comes to climate change, claims whose only purpose is to defeat or delay the change that we know is necessary.”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/24/obama-dismisses-warming-skeptics/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_more_news_carousel
Remember this is the person whos knowledge of science let him to claim as a candidate that all we needed to do was to keep our tire pressure up and tune our cars, and that would save as much energy as we could get by drilling offshore in the Gulf.
And remember the energy secretary Chu who stated that painting all the roofs and asphalt white would be equivalent to taking all the cars off the road for 13 (?) years.
No integrity in the whitehouse!!!

Back2Bat
October 24, 2009 7:49 am

bushy (03:28:58) :
Those few high records slap bang in the middle of the cold ones need looking at.
Excellent point!
“The nails that stick up, severely tempt the hammer.”
Dear AGW folk,
I understand. You see the world and society being destroyed and you want a solution, any solution. But don’t be hasty! Any hasty solution is likely to be a mistake. Ludvig von Mises, Murray N. Rothbard and other economists of the Austrian school pinpointed a major root of the evil today.
It is government backed fractional reserve banking. This is the destructive enabler of fear, greed, waste and destruction. It is based on systematic fraud and theft of purchasing from the poor among others. It directly led to the Great Depression as Ben Bernanke admitted. That in turn led to World War II and 50 – 80 million men, women, children and babies killed.
So, attack the root and the branches will wither.
best wishes,
B2B

MattB
October 24, 2009 8:01 am

So this week and last got me thinking about seeing what kind of a trend I could find with high and low records. I went to intelicast (I have later realized that was a mistake since the record high and low data for my city only seems to go from 1948 to 1999) and took only the number of days in a year that a record high and record low existed. Then graphed it. One thing that stood out was that from the mid 50’s to the late 70’s there seemed to be a corrolation where there would be an increase or decrease in number of days with a record moving together. But in the 80’s things diverged a bit, first there were more record cold days than hot in the early 80’s and then it reversed where there are more records in the latter 80’s then in the 90’s it settled down and there were few records set of either type. One other thing that sticks out is that there was a spike of record cold days in 75 and a spike of hot days in 1990.
I may have to play with this some more when I have time.

Philip_B
October 24, 2009 8:17 am

As I’ve mentioned before, the clean air acts have reduced early morning smoke and particulate pollution artificially increasing minimum temperatures and average temperatures (calculated as the average of the minimum and maximum temperatures).
Therefore, maximum temperatures are a (much) better indicator of current climate trends, and the high number of record low maximum temperatures does indicate the climate is cooling.
I maintain record high versus record low temperature counts is a better indicator of climate trends than averages, because the many site and local effects influnces temperatures – UHI and the smoke and particulate pollution effect, etc – have less effect on records.
I’ve been hoping someone would produce a running count of record highs versus record lows for various time periods expressed as +ve or -ve number, but maybe I’ll try and do it myself.

rbateman
October 24, 2009 8:27 am

I don’t know how more contradicting it can get when the claims made by warmists are frozen to the goalpost…..at the wrong end of the field. The warmists did this to themselves.

Vincent
October 24, 2009 8:53 am

Icarus;
“This is what we would expect to see – natural short term fluctuations superimposed on the current long term global warming trend of 0.2°C per decade.”
What short term fluctuation are you referring to? Global temperatures have not risen for 11 years.
What long term warming trend are you referring to? From a millenium perspective there is no trend at all – only a cycling from the medieval warm period into the little ice age and out again. On a multi-millenium time scale the trend is one of decreasing maximums, which as any technical analyst will tell you, is the classic definition of a down trend.

Jimbo
October 24, 2009 9:04 am

The Science Museum has a “Prove It” website at which voters are asked to be counted in or counted out to the following statement:
OT but interesting.
“I’ve seen the evidence. And I want the government to prove they’re serious about climate change by negotiating a strong, effective, fair deal at Copenhagen.” The vote has been running for a couple of days.
The “Count Me Outs” greatly outnumber the “Count Me Ins”.
http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/proveit.aspx
422 counted “IN”
2512 counted OUT
as at 4pm GMT, alomost 6 to 1 against.
PR stunt gone wrong maybe? People are going to get real mad if as time goes on the AGW thing becomes increasingly discredited and abandoned the scientists as well as the public.

TerryBixler
October 24, 2009 9:06 am

The warmists congress and President have not acknowledged the reality of the map. Cap and tax, power and greed. Forget the map it is hot on Venus anybody knows that, now where is my money.

Jimbo
October 24, 2009 9:06 am

Correction the “OT but interesting” phrase should be on top of my comment, don’t know what went wrong but I’m sure I put it on top!

richcar
October 24, 2009 9:31 am

I try to encouage my friends to play with NOAA’s “Climate at a Glance” website because its interactive nature allows one to ‘see for themselves’. They can see that the the contigous US has been increasing at the rate of 1.2 degrees per century since 1895 and that temps have been declining at the rate of seven 7 degrees per century since 1998. I point out that at this rate the US will be at 1895 temps in 15 years. With 20 more years of the cool phase of the PDO likely I think this is a safe bet. I realize the US is but a small part of the globe but it is something my friends can get their minds around.
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/cag3/na.html

Ed Scott
October 24, 2009 9:50 am

On AGW but not on this specific topic.
———————————————
Prelude to Lord Christopher Monckton of Benchley’s appearance on Glenn Beck’s TV show next week – October 25 to October 31, 2009.
Interview with James Delingpole about living under the Obama prototype, climate change and world government.
Seg5- England Has Been Living Under Obama Prototype For 12 Years

Seg6- Is The Climate Change Treaty The Start of World Government?

Douglas DC
October 24, 2009 9:59 am

1969,and 71-72 were weak/moderate El Nino years and those were very nasty
winters.Think PDO shift-colder….
’75 was a humdinger too-fell into the Yakima valley in a Piper Chieftain ice sculpture
when I was a green Co-Pilot on a Commuter Airline..
On that subject OT-I can see more Icing-related problems as the climate cools.
It will be something to watch…

Ed Scott
October 24, 2009 10:06 am

Off topic.
Trouble in Utopia.
President Obama won’t talk climate change in Copenhagen
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6888165.ece

Ron de Haan
October 24, 2009 11:34 am

Henry chance (06:03:10) :
“Obama can only campaign in Copenhagen. He knows of no cap and tirade legislation.
His line at MIT “the system we have now keeps us from creating new jobs” is an ignorant line. Actually the system we have now continues jobs he want to ruin.
Ed Scott (10:06:25) :
Off topic.
Trouble in Utopia.
President Obama won’t talk climate change in Copenhagen
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6888165.ece
Ed, Henry, I don’t think so.
This is tactics.
If Copenhagen is signed and Obama is the man who did it, he will get a lot more opposition.
If Copenhagen is not signed despite his “leadership” he will be smoked by the UN and all the hard working participant and at home.
If he keeps a low profile, he can state that Copenhagen has been negotiated by a BI PARTISAN expert team and state we simply have to execute what the “experts” have negotiated.
He can push for an approach in stages and grab the microphone as soon as the home front is wrapped up in a deal and claim victory without running any risks.
This strategy will be favorable for all scenario’s and for the future as well.
If riots break out in the USA, Obama can say “I can’t help it, we are simply executing directives which are out of our control”.
And if the scam crashes he still has an escape by denying any direct responsibility because he did not take the lead in Copenhagen.
This President has stopped risking his precious image. (think Olympics)
From now on he will operate on the safe side of the equations and others will have to do the dirty work.
He is going to be the first World Leader you know.
He is already running warm for the job.
The only thing he has to do is to organize “Whole Sale America” and shut the door when he leaves.
Mission completed.
Do you follow?

October 24, 2009 12:42 pm

MattB (08:01:36) : “…But in the 80’s things diverged a bit, first there were more record cold days than hot in the early 80’s and then it reversed where there are more records in the latter 80’s then in the 90’s it settled down and there were few records set of either type. One other thing that sticks out is that there was a spike of record cold days in 75 and a spike of hot days in 1990.
I may have to play with this some more when I have time.”
Please do.

Icarus
October 24, 2009 12:50 pm

Vincent (08:53:52) : Icarus; What short term fluctuation are you referring to?
Interannual stochastic variations. Heatwaves, cold spells, cool summers, warm winters and so on will always happen regardless of long term trends, just because the climate is to some extent a chaotic system.
Global temperatures have not risen for 11 years.
If you look at short term fluctuations in global temperatures, they are typically around 0.2°C from year to year. The observed long term trend due to climate forcings is about 0.2°C per decade. So, it’s obvious to everyone that you’re going to need substantially more than 10 years of data to see the long term trend distinguished from the ‘noise’ of interannual variation. 11 years is barely one solar cycle, and other factors in the climate such as ocean cycles operate over longer periods than that. This is why most studies of global climate prefer 30 years of data in order to have reasonable confidence in their conclusions. However, even if we look at only 15 years of data, the long-term warming trend of 0.2°C per decade is very clear and is the same as we’ve been seeing for several decades (since about the mid-70s) –
https://sites.google.com/site/europa62/climatechange/15ytt2008
What long term warming trend are you referring to?
The warming due to human activities which has become very clear during the last half century or so.
From a millenium perspective there is no trend at all – only a cycling from the medieval warm period into the little ice age and out again.
We have only had the capacity to substantially affect the global climate in, say, the last hundred years, so there is no point in looking for the anthropogenic global warming trend on a timescale of thousands of years.
On a multi-millenium time scale the trend is one of decreasing maximums, which as any technical analyst will tell you, is the classic definition of a down trend.
All the natural forcings tell us that we should be in a downward trend, albeit a slow one, which is strong evidence that the upward trend we actually observe is due to human activities.

Gene Nemetz
October 24, 2009 1:43 pm

rbateman (04:52:57) :
They have snow in the forecast for Oct. 30 in NW Calif. Down to 3,000.
I’d like to see that on Mt. Diablo.

Gene Nemetz
October 24, 2009 1:44 pm

Is Miami under water yet?

Gene Nemetz
October 24, 2009 1:56 pm

bushy (03:28:58) :
Those few high records slap bang in the middle of the cold ones need looking at.
Are you talking about the two in Virginia and the one in West Virginia?
I would agree with you about those!

Landin
October 24, 2009 2:11 pm

Lots of early season snow and cold in Breckenridge, Colorado. Breckenridge ski area will open Nov. 12 and the base should be fantastic for so early. The upper mountain has the most snow I’ve seen this early on. It’s been snowing consistently since Sept. 21 and staying cold so what we’ve received hasn’t melted. Snow is in the forecast for the next week, at least. Wolf Creek, CO ski area opens on Halloween Day and Keystone opens Nov. 6. But, but, but, I thought with global warming ski areas would be opening later and later by now with less and less snow….
Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/retroproxy/

Ron de Haan
October 24, 2009 2:47 pm

Icarus (12:50:38) :
“What long term warming trend are you referring to?
1. “The warming due to human activities which has become very clear during the last half century or so”.
2. “All the natural forcings tell us that we should be in a downward trend, albeit a slow one, which is strong evidence that the upward trend we actually observe is due to human activities”.
Icarus, please explain with solid evidence:
Point 1 and Point 2
While I am waiting for your reply I want you to know that I have filed your remarks 1 and 2 under the (H-W) = Hog Wash.