WUWT readers may recall last week that we had an excellent guest analysis by Bob Tisdale titled:
Ocean Heat Content: Dropping again
Easy come, easy go. The data has been changed. Read on – Anthony
NODC’s CORRECTION TO OHC (0-700m) DATA
Guest Post by Bob Tisdale
I was advised today (Thanks, Fred) that the NODC has revised their Ocean Heat Content data. A quick check of the KNMI Climate Explorer News webpage…
http://climexp.knmi.nl/news.cgi?someone@somewhere
…reveals that it was revised on October 15, 2009 at KNMI.
And a check of the NODC data…
…shows that it was corrected on 10/15/09.
Dr. Geert Jan van Oldenborgh writes, “There was an error in the last 3-month data point of the NODC ocean heat content dataset, as anyone who made a map of the data could see. The problem has been fixed at NODC (thanks Gavin, Tim).”
Apparently the NODC hadn’t bothered to plot the data prior to posting it on September 14, 2009, or hadn’t thought there was a problem until…
Here’s a gif of the correction
http://i36.tinypic.com/2coomlw.gif
NODC CORRECTION
Thanks, Gavin and Tim.
Hmm, I’ll have to go back and update the “ENSO Dominates NODC Ocean Heat Content (0-700 Meters) Data” post to make sure the ENSO-induced step changes are still there and verify the “North Atlantic Ocean Heat Content (0-700 Meters) Is Governed By Natural Variables” hasn’t changed, too.
H/T to Fred.
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UPDATE (October 15 @ 5:40PM):
After I posted the above, I found that Dr. Geert Jan van Oldenborgh had emailed me to notify me of the correction. I have received his permission to reproduce his email:
Dear Bob Tisdale,
please note that NODC discovered that they had accidentally posted the wrong version of their last file (apr-jun2009), a preliminary version with most data still missing had somehow made it to their web site. A quick look at the map for that quarter showed that there were hardly any anomalies visible and big anomalies in the North Atlantic and Pacific did not persist from the previous quarter, so the data were clearly suspicious. This mix-up has been fixed tonight (Dutch time) at NODC and in the Climate Explorer. A corrected version of the average heat content is attached, the value of apr-jun2009 is now more in line with the values of previous quarters.
Greetings from chilly Holland,
Geert Jan
Dr. Spencer has updated the UAH SSTs to Oct 14. Basically, back to Zero anomoly.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/
If they only corrected the last 3 month datum point, then why does the blink comparator gif show a drop in a peak value in early 1980, 1996, 1999, and 2002 among other points? — John M Reynolds
What does the ocean heat content mean? Is the correction a good or bad thing?
Climate Change
http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/environment/weather_and_climate/news.php?q=1255539831
Sideshow Bob (16:52:01) :
Well that’s not good news, coupled with the recent slight uptick in sea levels…http://sealevel.colorado.edu/current/sl_noib_ns_global.txt
You gotta do better than that, bro. Sea levels fluctuate over the eons….and over the years.
And even then…they are not unexplained by natural procesess.
Regardless…there are some world-class experts in the subject that say the current scare on that one (yeah LOL I remember the 20-foot wall of water in the Gore movie)….there are some that say sea levels are relatively stable.
http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Mörner+Sea+Level&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
Sudbury: Ooooh, sneaky those data adjusters are.
I notice that too, while the corrections are very small, it gives an indication they may be cooking the data in a similar way and to a smaller extent than GISS, to say something similar to an old blog post by Anthony, “Like a fine wine the data is perfected over many years” (though in this case getting it ready to show the AGW scare is based on ‘fact’)
jmrSudbury:
It could simply be the way that red / blue colours anti-alias in the image, it is only about 1 pixel different, and a gif.
Rather than write a long analysis whenever there is a drop in any purported measure of some aspect of global temperatures, it would probably be more efficient to send a very brief message to the data keepers to ask them when they are going to find what they believe is an error and adjust it upwards.
PS: No reason to do the same when there’s an uptick–if you don’t find the error, it won’t be found.
The people whose careers and tidy fortunes are made off of claiming to understand what the data means are also the ones who control the data.
We had a few mild winters here in eastern Massachusetts earlier in this decade; scarcely any snow at all. People said it was ‘global warming’. Then in ’07 I finally broke down and bought a snowblower, because the unexpectedly heavy December snow was getting to my back. During the last interminable winter I began wishing I had bought a bigger one. This winter. . . I suspect I’ll need a tractor. Our pretty October has just vanished into 40º days, with cold rain and maybe a little snow promised for tomorrow.
It was clearly warmer for a few years in the summer, too. But I haven’t heard a mockingbird for a couple of summers now. Still, that’s all anecdotal. They say, “If you don’t like the weather in New England, just wait a day.” Folks who give up on the climate move to Florida. I guess it becomes ‘climate’ when you get older.
These ‘global’ temperatures, whether atmospheric (not ‘land’) or sea, seem like will-o’-the-wisps: ever elusive, perhaps imaginary; lots of crappy data. Maybe the only way to reconstruct climate history is to see what grew where and when: the flora and fauna are a pretty good indication of the local climate, and stratigraphy will tell you how it changed. Not much grew here 20,000 years ago, or over much of the hemisphere, that’s for sure. What caused the ice to melt? I don’t reckon it was CO2.
The sad thing is that all these histrionics about ‘climate’ would really be much ado about nothin’, except that the self-aggrandizing politicians have seized upon ‘climate change’ as an excuse to raise taxes and pretend that they are saving us from ourselves. The danger is, not knowing the first thing about the nature and history of the Earth, they may actually believe it. Such folly will cost us dearly. Already it is opening the doors for the real aggrandizers, the tyrants who will seize any opportunity and use any excuse to lord it over the rest of us.
H. L. Mencken: “The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it.”
/Mr Lynn
The planet has been cooling dramatically for 2 years now. Here’s where I got my first heads up to keep an eye on things.
“A compiled list of all the sources can be seen here. The total amount of cooling ranges from 0.65C up to 0.75C — a value large enough to wipe out most of the warming recorded over the past 100 years. All in one year’s time. For all four sources, it’s the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down. ”
Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global Cooling
http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Widescale+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm
Hi,
Anthony.. didn’t SM do a buckets metal verses canvas on this subject and then also ship inlet data to buckets? I think this is a cornucopia of data they use. so you can basically do what ever you want to the data.
It looks to me like Nov 2005 is still the “high-water mark” for sea levels.
Or, maybe that was December, 05′.
Sideshow Bob (16:52:01) :
Well that’s not good news, coupled with the recent slight uptick in sea levels…http://sealevel.colorado.edu/current/sl_noib_ns_global.txt
And this….
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/MLK2.pdf
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
Sideshow Bob: “the solar cycle curve diving with the temperature curve staying constant (or going back up based on recent satalite data) …. it’s going to get very difficult to justify a solar link.”
Vell, virst you must subtracta the ozean zycles, zen the zun will emerge, vum behind de cloudsa…
No single variable will correlate well over short time scales…why did the sun ramp up drastically though 1960, yet the temperature flatlined in 1945? Hmmm?
DaveE …
You say the Globe has warmed .. PROVE IT!
You can’t use the Thermometer data … it’s contaminated with land use issues and UHI effects.
You can’t use Satellite .. though, it’s likely more accurate than thermometers, it’s little more than a bunch of calculations on satellite data that measure slices of the troposphere.
Granted, I’m being a tad cantancorous [sp .. and no I’m not going to go look up the correct spelling of that word] … but really. Sure, I know the PDO flipped, at least that’s what they say it did. They Say we had a bunch of El Ninos in a row … but how in the hell am I supposed to confirm that?? Am I just supposed to “trust” the data?? OK .. the arctic ice has melted a bit …. or has it??? .. maybe it’s just another satellite glitch.
I know this …. I remember growing up in Dallas Texas, in the 60s and 70s, and I remember summers .. scorching summers. And we may have gotten a snow storm 1 or 2 times a years. Guess What …. today … the summers are scorchers still …and the place still gets a few ice events a year.
I guess there is some place on earth that has experienced severe global warming .. and as such, it is what is driving all those “measurements” up so we have global warming. But for the life of me .. I think the majority of earth is just status quo! … the same ol same ol.
Like I said .. I think people are seeing pink elephants .. because the WANT to see pink elephants.
Blueridge (17:47:42) :
It doesn’t take a scientist to know the earth is cooling. Look outside.
Snow in South Africa, Saudi Arabia, Malibu, Houston ?
I’m looking outside, but I don’t see any snow in Houston.
Australia has just had another 40+ cm of snow in the high country 2 weeks after the close of the official ski season.
The season started 6 weeks early because of a massive 70cm dump in May. 2009 was one of our best ski seasons and all the resorts presently have a snowpack as good as it has been at the peak of the season.
Unfortunately all the resorts closed 2 weeks ago so only us hardy backcountry skiiers can enjoy it! Ho Ho Ho!
So far this month most of Australia has had temperature anomolies up to 4 degrees celcius below average. If this continues we will have a significantly cooler October compared to the average.
Considering the news from Europe and NA it sounds like it will be a cool month globally.
OHC 0-700m would seem to indicate that NODC is referring to ARGO buoy data. My understanding was that this had already been adjusted. Dr.Willis’ explanation did seem reasonable at the time. However the warm bias in climate data adjustments when viewed together seems statistically improbable.
And some further adjustments….
I can see another source of data that will soon need to be adjusted, which would be the Internet. Much of the information on the newer BLOG climate system shows a distinct cooling bias when compared to traditional and reliable MSM climate reporting systems. Initial adjustments attempted using the Fenton / Soros methodology may have been inadequate as there appears to be a continuing divergence problem between MSM and BLOG climate data. More wide spread use of the Connolly / Petersen filtering and adjustment system could be a possible solution. This method would necessitate a significant and costly expansion of government bureaucracy, however revenue from carbon taxation should offset this.
I read somewhere that when the climate scientists reviewed the Argo SST and compared it to what they had before they found the Argo temperatures lower than expected, so what did they do? They adjusted the Argo temperatures lower because they couldn’t believe the SST could be as low as Argo reported, never mind that Argo uses the most sophisticated sensors ever to measure SST.
Global Warming — is there nothing it can’t do?
Calgary Olympic Park is opening for the ski season this Saturday, that’s their earliest start in at least 50 years. Last year they didn’t open until December.
Blueridge said (17:47:42) :
“It doesn’t take a scientist to know the earth is cooling. Look outside.
Snow in South Africa, Saudi Arabia, Malibu, Houston ?”
Mike McMillan said (20:04:15): “I’m looking outside, but I don’t see any snow in Houston.”
Ummm….Blueridge is referring to crazy, anomalous snowfalls within the past couple o’ years.
Nothing wrong with that. Pure observation. Houston and New Orleans….last year…November.
Add them up with late spring Victoria snowfalls in Australia the other day, the freak storms in Argentina back in July…..the record early snowcap in the Alps this October….measured in METERS…. the record early snows in Europe from the same…and the all-time record snow anomalies in the USA as well…
Seems like some serious cooling going on.
Waiting for an intelligent refute. Ho hum. Falling asleep…because there will not be one.
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
Deanster, I guess if you can’t trust any of the man made measurement devices you could always look and see what dates birds started migrating. Certainly there must be an answer there for you.