Guest essay by Eric Worrall
A new group of climate entrepreneurs has arisen to service the needs of true believers. Climate action might be a fading priority for most people. However, despite the general collapse of public interest, there appears to be a stubborn core of true believers, who still genuinely expect to see climageddon in their lifetime – and who are prepared to part with lots of cash, to maximise their chances of surviving the disasters they imagine will occur.
Welcome to the climate survivalist movement. They have a book, The Handbook: Surviving and Living with Climate Change.. Their leaders speak at events with exciting names like Is Climate Change the New Apocalypse?.
According to the Australian ABC;
If you believe the overwhelming body of science predicting a two-degree increase in global surface temperatures over the next 50 years, you might want to start preparing. Luckily much of the hard work has been done for you and collated into a handy guide book, as Barbara Heggen reports.
Tasmania is one of the world’s hot spots (pun fully intended) for climate change survivalists.
One of the most helpful things in a crisis situation is having people around you who care about whether you live or die.
‘You want somewhere that’s going to be comfortable when it gets warmer, and that might have decent amount of rainfall. In Australia that’s Tasmania,’ says James Whitmore, one of the authors of The Handbook: Surviving and Living with Climate Change.
For the record Tasmania is a cold place, which just a few weeks ago suffered unusually heavy snowfalls – not exactly a part of the world known for its balmy tropical climate. But climate survivalism is not about observations, its about model predictions.
Wealthy activists like Naomi Klein might have made a lot of money, selling books which criticise capitalism and climate skepticism. The climate survivalists take this a step further, by providing believers with a roadmap which explains how to survive their fantasy fears.
If you truly believe the world is about to become a burning hell, advice from the likes of James Hansen, to migrate to colder climates like Switzerland, might really resonate. Or if you can’t afford to buy your way into Switzerland, there is always Tasmania.
L Ron Hubbard lead the way.
Merchandising,thats the proper response to irrational fears and delusional thinkers.
I look forward to the day the Cult put their money up and buy their future paradise, move in and practise what they preach.
Hopefully one can have the contractors install cameras on every surface.
Meanwhile anything that separates these idealists from their riches is a national good.
If the do-gooders are kept in poverty they can do much less mischief to the rights and freedoms of the rest of us.
Course by this logic Al Gore is a demigod.
I hope they feel the need to don new sneakers and castrate themselves. There’s bound to be a comet coming that they can jump on.
I concur. They should all move to a place called Hanson’s Gulch. (get it? a Galt’s Gulch for Climatastrophists).
I believe one of the many judges in the many Scientology lawsuits that the cult spawned in order to control all speech about Scientology once wisely said that the Church of Scientology didn’t have standing to speak for the safety and future prospects of the worlds population, no matter how fervently they believed they were the only true hope for humanity. Likewise, I reject these climate Scientologists who claim to speak for the world’s future. Go back to your cult, join the mothership in orbit, do whatever you want, so long as it doesn’t impact on my freedom and my own space.
I live in Canada….we would be delighted if the global warming hysteria had even an ounce of truth. Our winters are damn cold. And they last too long.
Would love some of this climate warming hot bull air this way in Edmonton! Last night (Aug 21), we were a BALMY +3C. Had a chat with one of the local eco-nuts here around 8 PM. She was complaining about the coldness. Last week she was complaining about the +15C at night. Told her to go home and go to bed…..with her furnace shut-off. She asked me what I was on about. Just told her if you don’t like the heat, get out of the frying pan. Ellesmere Island should suit her fine. OH. And take a coat. She just glared as she huddled into her winter coat(really!) and asked if I was joking. I just laughed and told her since I was in shorts and t-shirt, I was going in for a bit of that global warming caused by evil CO2 and a warm drink. You just can’t fix stupid.
Ah come on. It snowed at the end of May and it just snowed in the mountains. Frost warnings from Medicine Hat to Edmonton tonight. Typical Alberta summer so far as I can see. A little drought, a few damaging hailstorms, a little flooding here and there, and a spotty harvest. Sounds just like how my great grandmother described things in the plains 100 years ago.
?dl=0
La plus la change, la plus la meme chose.
Can’t take things too seriously. Besides, the Frost advisory was just lifted. Have a nice day.
That should be: plus ça change, plus ça la meme chose
Hey Wayne, beautiful sorrel horse! What lines is it out of? (Wifey and I have horses too)
Beat me to it. That is a handsome steed.
Horses are magnificent creatures. Smell great too.
This is beautiful. Right now i am in the Eastern Cape connecting with distant family. My eldest went riding today with a distant cousin several times removed. Came back after eight hours in the sadle with the biggest smile I’ve seen for years. Tails of zebra and wilderbeast herds and makeshift lunch and firing a riflle for the the first time. God bless you all.
Canada, Yes. Alaska has some decidedly unbalmy spots. But the big winna would have to be Siberia. They still have a few unclaimed building lots, from what I have gathered.
I still am having trouble understanding why and how it is that these nitwits think a 2 degree rise is going to make the temperate zones uninhabitable, or transform perpetually frozen wastelands into tropical paradises, since it will be six months of near constant night from October to March, or effect the tropics much at all, considering that tens of millions of years of climate change have never changed the temps in the tropics.
With Climate Change you never know: Tasmania might get even colder. Good luck.
Due to the fact that rising sea levels will soon swamp the east and west coasts of America, I strongly urge all global warming Faithful to pack their things and move to the Colorado Rockies.
(Oh, and leave us some beer in the fridge when ya go, please).
Why does everyone want to dump their toxic waste in the West? Wasn’t it enough to turn the Animas River orange?
Well, someone had a clever model a few weeks ago that predicted Denver would have the climate of Charleston or some swampy east coast city, if global temperatures went up 10 degrees (or whatever the difference between Denver and Charleston is). That would imply a sea level rise of 5280 feet, approximately. I’m not worried, since I live at 9000 feet, and would still be, um, 3720 feet above sea level. That’s maybe like Asheville, NC, so they could move NCDC to my house and I get to fudge the data.
I am one of those co-op observers whose data NCDC likes to improve, but I do get to see the data before it’s improved.
But think twice before you move here. There’s no guarantee that the model’s 7 degree warming (by 2099) will happen; matter of fact, it’s been cooling at that same rate for the past 15 years. I had a skiff of snow three days ago, but thanks to global warming, it all melted. Maybe that means a hiatus in the cooling trend.
You’re an observer? Thank you for your service. (If you care to reveal the coordinates, I’d be happy to “rate” it for you.)
evanmjones says: You’re an observer? Thank you for your service. (If you care to reveal the coordinates, I’d be happy to “rate” it for you.)
Hey, it’s fun! I done daily max-mins, snow, etc. for 55 years now, and it was a real thrill to be a co-op observer for the past 30. Tom Jefferson logged the daily weather for 50 years, so there’s one thing I’ve done better (more) than he did.
I posted a story on WUWT about my station a few years ago http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/04/coal-creek-redux/ that gives the location and other details. Amazingly, it brought 146 comments! Somewhere in the comments I rate the station as a 2 or 3 on Anthony’s CRN scale, because it’s impossible to have a 1 in a forested mountain area. I think there’s some links to NCDC’s description of the site somewhere in the comments, too.
From a neighbor very nearby, thanks for the data! In my 26 years above 8,000 ft (mostly above 10,000), I can say that the more things change, the more they stay the same. Maybe it’s hypoxia, but I’m far more inclined to believe your data than that emanating from those expensive buildings tucked up against the Flatirons!!
“”(or whatever the difference between Denver and Charleston is).””
The “Ayk-sent.”
Bless your pretty little heart, honey child, you done made me laugh!
@richard, I enjoyed reading your 2010 article I haven’t been at it as long as you (just 20 years) I envy were you live, looks great although I am not complaining we live in the Okanagan Valley up above the 49th lived on a ski hill at 7000 ft for a few winters did not acclimatize well so back to bottom I went. Good luck with your reporting and keep us posted!
“I strongly urge all global warming Faithful to pack their things and move to the Colorado Rockies.” … where the radiation levels are twice as high as on the coasts (due to entirely natural causes!).
PT Barnum was right, there is a sucker born every minute.
A lot of us think we live in a rational, science dominated world with the dividends from the Reformation, the Renaissance and the Age of Reason flowing into our lives. There are however an awful lot of people out there whose education was not really sufficient to bring them up to speed with enough maths, science and the rationality of scientific method who simply do not see. hear or feel in that same part of the intellectual spectrum. They still take their life cues from the sorts of emotionally targetted thinking and rhetoric that has been the signature of the shamans, the priests, the mythmakers and the secular spruikers who have always been there in the irrational shadows. Climatologists are just a recent iteration of the doomsayer strand of humanity’s manipulator class who can make a buck spruiking their schlok and form alliances of convenience with political and commercial interests who see their work as just the latest brand of useful idiocy.
This is an old problem wearing some new ’emperor’s’ clothes.
I just wish they would all find their Jim Jones and a supertanker full of Kool Ade.
So true. More nudists and more volcanoes.
Tasmania once formed part of the Australian mainland and with sea levels rising about 10,000 years ago it formed an island. Since then, this 50 or so metres of sea advance has continued as we emerge from an ice age. Climate survivalists should know that this trend could continue and their promised land may disappear beneath the waves.
Perhaps a new Moses will emerge to save them from their sins.
Well I was visiting Melbin back in March and my folks took me to a somewhat famous pier pointing out to the south. (izzat Manley Pier ? Can’t remember.)
Anyhow from the end of that pier, on a clear day you can actually see Tasmania.
Tasmania is one of the first, if not the very first States of Australia, so when they Stated themselves, they sort of grabbed everything I sight, including the small island outpost that you can see from that pier. So you can win a beer at the Bar (a Fosters) by betting you can see Tasmania from the end of the (Manley) pier. You can.
Now that is not quite the same as seeing Siberia from Wasilla Alaska, but it comes pretty close.
Bass Straight incidently, is one of the truly bad ass bodies of water on earth.
Last time we had global warming in Colorado and the sea lapped at the foot of the Rockies, we had dinosaurs – velociraptors – cruising the beach and eating up beachgoers and their poodles.
and for my sane friend in tassies sake, I hope the agw fools decide to ROW across the strait and pick a nice cold windy day to do it.
the normal people down there have had a gutfull of greentards n yuppy govvy wannabe greens screwing their livelihoods over for ego n profit.
Whoever said you could see Siberia from Wasilla?
“seeing Siberia from Wasilla” was from a SNL skit. I feel awful to break the news to you, but SNL is NOT real life.
Exactamundo, Jon
Mate you can’t even see King or Flinders Islands from the Victorian coast, let alone Melbourne, which is at the head of Port Phillip Bay,, some 50k from open ocean.
The “see Tassie from Melb” story would be on a par with “see Antarctica from Stewart is” in Kiwi-land.
Now that is hilarious!
“If you believe the overwhelming body of science predicting a two-degree increase in global surface temperatures over the next 50 years, you might want to start preparing.”
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
Dude, bring it on!
Warmer weather is bad is a tough sell… 🙂
I’m Tasmanian, born, bred and buttered. For decades I’ve been saying “If only Tasmania was five degrees C warmer, it’d be paradise.” Now we’ve got ‘Global Warming’ coming, and people are complaining about it!
Prince Albert, Saskatchewan, Canada, has an annual mean temperature of 1.4 C. If global temperatures rose by 2 C, I think Prince Albert would be the place to be for the climate change survivors. It is a nice small city, and if its annual mean temperature rose by even 8 C, it would then have what is the current annual mean temperature of Toronto Ontario, Canada and that is 9.4 C. And Toronto Canada, is still a very cold place to live. Both Prince Albert and Toronto are classified as having the exact same climate – a humid continental climate. It is hard to believe the absolute idiocy of climate alarmists.
Hey Jim- I lived in PA in the seventies doing development work in the north for the DIAND and DNS (acronyms not important – substitute Federal and Provincial governments).
Yeah the annual average temperature may only be 1.4 degrees C, but you left out the 55 below days when your walk backwards against the wind in your full face covering parkas to avoid freezing up your eyeballs and chest. And the days stranded in faraway northern communities because the aircraft weren’t supposed to take if when it was below 30 below C.
But the summers were nice in deed in lake country. Thanks for the memories.
I had a new project in South End (Reindeer Lake) – a graphite deposit on First Nations Reserve. The Cree hired me to advise on a feasibility study that had been prepared, and to prepare a royalty agreement and calculate a reclamation bond for after the mining was completed. Delays in getting the budget together took us to the first week in November. Since I was also stopping in Winnipeg and on to Victoria for other purposes, I decided to drive from Ottawa. I was advised that for the trip to East End, I could rent a 4WD for the ~500km trip north from Prince Albert to East End.
The snow had held off and I was happy to get to P.A. until it came to rent a vehicle and it turned out moose season had just started and the whole town was empty of 4WD SUVs. I bought chains and decided to give it a try (I had an appointment). We got to La Ronge without incident, had something to eat and then started on the long wilderness journey to East End. Within an hour, snowflakes the size of golf balls were coming down and the wipers and the heater made the usual snow/ice scapes on the windshield that needed outdoor attention every 20km and the road was getting hard to survey ahead. Fortunately, the weather turned cold and the snow stopped and we made it there, rushed the visit to the site and headed back.
There is quite a stretch of scenic territory there for building CAGW survival villages. I could look into if anyone is interested. If it turns colder however, I don’t offer any guarantees.
Tasmania? Currently we are experiencing Trumpmania but who is this guy Tas?
Eugene WR Gallun
You know, Ras-Ma-Taz !
noaaprogrammer –i wasn’t really expecting an answer, particularly not such a good one — Eugene WR Gallun
In the years to come it is likely that science will get to see if both hemispheres cool down simultaneously during a grand minimum event. It has been interesting watching the rapid sea ice loss in two areas of the the continent over the last month. Here is a good look at it……http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=total_cloud_water/orthographic=-348.27,-83.32,302
Note the warm moist streams which are moving south until they intersect with the coast line and then one rotates westward while the other moves to the east, and then both rotate outward as the air mass mixes with continental air. Those two areas, are where almost all of the melting has taken place. While the rest of the coastline is being buffered from the main wind stream, and as such much of that coast line still maintains above average sea ice extent.
Beautiful imagery.
Tasmania is a mendicant state because it has very little industry and much of that is dependent on government patronage; this is due to the peculiar commonwealth constitutional and voting arrangement, in other words a type of ‘gerrymander’, and the powerful Green party busy themselves trying to destroy what little self-sustaining industry there is.
“Tasmania ranks at the bottom among Australian states on virtually every dimension of economic, social, and cultural performance: highest unemployment, lowest incomes, languishing investment, lowest home prices, least educated, lowest literacy, most chronic disease, poorest longevity, most likely to smoke, greatest obesity, highest teenage pregnancy, highest petty crime, worst domestic violence”:
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=16098&page=0
Sounds like the goal state of political climate catastrophism, so they ought to be right at home :’)
Send in the green army! They’ll whip that place into golden metropolis of perfection just in time for it to sink…or “Capsize”!
Tasmanian Devils have jaws with a biting power as strong as a dog four times their weight. A ten kg devil has as powerful a bite as a 40 kg dog. They are comparable to the spotted hyena. If one of these Warmist-Alarmist would-be Immigrants to Tasmania gets bitten by a Tasmanian Devil, they may rethink their ideas.
I’m in County Cork, Ireland. The warmest I’ve seen it here in the last 25 years was 77F. We get plenty of rain. Perhaps I should open Climate Realty and make my fortune.
Flew into Cork airport once, took a taxi to Kilkenny (there was a train strike). Beautiful countryside – we stopped off for lunch at a lovely country pub, had a few pints with the taxi driver… 🙂
You have to admit, they come up with some classics. Must people wont be around in 50 years anyway!
A fool and their money are soon parted.
Pointman
“Tasmania’s white winter good for tourists but locals fed up”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/6706534-3×2-700×467.jpg
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-18/tasmanias-white-winter-good-for-tourists-but-locals-fed-up/6706692
“Snow continues to fall across parts of Tasmania after causing morning traffic chaos”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/6701682-3×2-700×467.jpg
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-17/snow-continues-to-fall-across-parts-of-tasmania/6701422
Tasmania, winter 2015
‘2C over the next 50 years.’
And yet elsewhere they claim it is 2C Total from 1750 to 2100. Or from 1850 to 2100, depending on who you ask. Wish they’d make up their minds….
It would, basically, be a kindness to separate the fools from their money before it ends up in the clutches of the WWF, Greenpeace of FotE.
A roundabout way for the loony left to meet their right wing survivialist counterparts. The former predict climate chaos, the latter social unrest or as they term it SHTF situations. Both spending lots of money on “preparedness” both driven by fear cultivated by clever people who have the “bigger picture” and bank accounts to match.
If people want to go to Tassie, let them. I find it cold enough in Brisbane these days.
As far as I’m concerned, the Antarctic Circle runs through Tweed Heads.
I’m lost. Does the survival kit come with a mapatasi?
[Shame on you! ~mod.]
careful, you can go blind from that
That’s why I’m lost.
It comes with a Peter Heater,
I cross posted this as Hockey Schtick, but it did not show, perhaps because they are moderated & 1st time post. Did not want my wisdom to be lost. 🙂 A relatively cold small Island would seem to me to be a poor place to hide from the coming apocalypse.
CAGW is posited on run away water vapor feed-back, however warming from any source, not just CO2 would cause this. The climate has had UNLIMITED water vapor available to it ever since there have been water oceans. Conclusion: we have had run way water vapor feed back ever since there has been a climate in existence. The result when feed back hits a maximum is convection and a resulting thunderstorm, cold rain, and clouds. Massive NEGATIVE feedback.
Don’t bother me with the last 150 years of “warming”. 0.7C using thermometers that are precise to +/- 0.5C at best, and accuracy? You do have calibration records, right, traceable to NIST or NBS. Try to make it ISO 9000 compliant. Lets start with the last 12,000 years instead, now is different how? Please show your work, in detail 🙂
Or you could be like DeCaprio and move to an ecologically correct spa in Belize since the [snip] water isn’t going to rise anyway
Actually, this is the seed of a good idea. It’s like those Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker villages of a few decades ago – they made a fortune on that sort of thing. We can tell Big Oil and Coal they can stop sending us cheques, we are getting funded by the troughers themselves.