Via Politico: By KARL MATHIESEN
Key Points:
“What the fuck are we even doing here?” asked a European government official, nursing a caipirinha at a riverside bar halfway through the two-week conference held in a city on the banks of the Amazon delta.
It’s a question increasingly being asked at U.N. climate talks. But it was perhaps more true of this edition, COP30, than any of its predecessors in the 33-year history of the international talks.
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Without the diplomatic heft and experience of the Americans, there was no country that could break down the resistance from Saudi Arabia, China or India. …
The U.S. absence allowed a group of emerging economies that includes Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa — known as the BRICS —to team up with petrostates, isolating the more green-oriented European Union and refusing to countenance even a reiteration of past deals to end fossil fuels.
It felt, delegates said, like part of a larger power shift. Where confident rising powers trod over the interests of a divided West. “This is a BRICS COP,” a European diplomat said. …
What true signal about the state of the world could the conference produce when there were zero delegates in attendance from the U.S., the world’s largest economy and oil and gas producer? …
Throughout Thursday, an unflattering statue of Donald Trump — a U.N. head of state — stood unmolested by the guards at the gates of the U.N. venue.
Climate Depot’s Marc Morano’s statement on COP30’s ending:
“Thank You, Mr. President! Trump’s masterclass move not to send U.S. delegation, blamed for failure of UN climate summit!” – (See: POLITICO: ‘The U.S. absence allowed’ BRICS nations & petro-states to team up to derail COP30)
“I have attended in-person 21 out of the past 23 international UN climate/environmental summits. I can declare that after spending a week in Brazil at COP30, it was the biggest UN climate sh*t-show ever! Thank God, President Trump chose not to send an official U.S. delegation to the UN climate summit for the first time in its history! (I was part of CFACT’s self-declared ‘unofficial’ U.S. delegation in Belém, Brazil) America’s absence helped speed along the total irrelevance of this 30th annual UN climate summit.)
The UN COP30 failure was so spectacular that even the mainstream media could not paper over it. POLITICO cited a European government official asking: ‘What the f*ck are we even doing here?’ A great question indeed.
President Trump needs to finish off the UN climate agenda with one more bold action: Withdraw from the 1992 United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change or the Rio Earth Summit Treaty signed by then-GOP President George H.W. Bush in 1992. Vacating this treaty would give permanence to Trump’s agenda and free America from this 33-year-old UN climate terror campaign. Trump 2.0’s climate legacy could become permanent, making it very difficult for a future President, AOC, or Gavin Newsom to get the U.S. back into the UN climate fiasco. Mr. President, tear up this 1992 treaty!
COP30 morphed into Clear-Cut30 as tens of thousands of acres of Amazon rainforest were cleared for the summit’s climate highway. Massive energy-intensive cruise ships served as temporary hotels for delegates, while hamburgers, chicken, and other beef products were sold out at the UN food court (why were there no insects on the menu?!), and the venue suffered from leaking and crumbling infrastructure.
The conference morphed into CRAP30 when the toilets failed, with world leaders going hours without access to bathrooms, and eventually leading to long lines with no toilet paper allowed in the conference center toilets. The conference then morphed into Combustion30 as it succumbed to a massive fire that shut down the entire summit. A blaze spread through the hastily built temporary venue, which felt like a windowless circus tent inside.
Bill Gates’ newfound climate skepticism loomed over the summit, particularly angering Al Gore, who showed up to call Gates ‘silly’ and declared Gates a bully victim of President Trump. Despite the entire UN climate agenda warning about the evils and carbon footprint of air-conditioning, Bloomberg News quoted a top UN official screaming for colder air-conditioning at the summit! You would think that the UN, which is trying to manage energy economies centuries into the future, would’ve been able to plan a climate summit that did not turn into a fiasco.
To sum up, we have witnessed COP FLOP. But, we must never forget, failure of a UN climate summit is great news for humanity!”
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End Morano statement
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More good news. By their own hand the European countries are making themselves more and more irrelevant.
Yeah, but just wait till next year. That’s when it will all happen. Next year for sure!
Truly a self-sabotaging path to irrelevance. This matches what they have accomplished with what dunkelflaute has done for their energiewende..
The more interesting news can be found between POLITICO’s lines.
If US absence “allowed ” BRICS and Petro States to team up and derail CON30,
then the US has been used all along to keep them in the warming line,
and that those states are actually not interested in this(except for scamming money).
As no western countries deviated it seems that the warming scam is a sole western enterprise
and that the others only participate to not make the big guy angry.
As the big guy lost interest and is not there they stopped following the narrative.
I’ve been wondering this for decades about COPs
The UN have repeatedly proven that they don’t have the organisational abilities to hold a root in a brothel
Some people are just a little S L O W on the uptake but will eventually COP out.
“Originally an acronym for the first five members (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa), the group has expanded to increase economic and political cooperation among its member nations.”
Hmmmm.
Yes, it’s a bugger when you can’t find anything useful to say, isn’t it? Maybe you could try “Wow, just wow!”.
Was in regards to headline “POLITICO: ‘The U.S. absence allowed’ BRICS nations & petro-states to team up to derail COP30”
If India and China were there to derail the process while The US did not show up, and if all three of those large nations are about making more humans and more CO2, then what should one guess the purpose of the conference is?
I figured reiterating who the BRICS are might be better than sharing the thought. I don’t expect to change the world by typing messages on someone else’s message board. If one other reader formulated a similar thought, then there’s my contribution to humanity for today. Also I’d forgotten who ‘S’ was. Not sure how South Africa snuck onto a list with those others. I guess the acronym maker needed the letter ‘S’ to make it work.
Bias self check: SA is down at number 40 on Wikipedia’s GDP sorted by nation list. If any country starting with ‘S’ submits an application before new years eve, SA will be out.
Slow morning… Highest rated “S’ is Spain at number 12. Saudi Arabia at 19 would be a better philosophical pro-oil fit.
Things only appear to be “derailed” if the “climate scientists” don’t get their own way.
Democracy is wonderful – as long as you are on the “winning” side.
COPXXs have always been about money: to ‘COP’ $trillions from ‘developed’ countries to benefit the thieving elites of the ‘undeveloped’ countries’. ‘Undeveloped’ countries’ had the same or an even better start than developed countries, but failed. $trillions more given will change nothing.
Europe and North America could show how it is done. Switch populations with the undeveloped world. In fifty years, we’d be developed again since – yes – we DID build that and WE would do it again. Our culture is a success and that cannot be given away, it is intrinsic.
Considering the accommodations were in the Red Light District … more like COP-XXX
That was a brilliant move. They decreased the carbon footprint by not having to fly the hookers in!
The lefties were all banking on China to step up but they are not self guilted and gave a statement breaking lefty hearts
“China’s senior climate adviser, Wang Yi, stated China would not lead alone on climate policy, emphasizing the need for comprehensive leadership and cooperation, particularly with the U.S. not playing a central role. China is committed to its own transition but wants to work with other nations, such as the EU and Global South, to maintain momentum on climate goals and avoid a retreat in global efforts”
With the two largest emitters sidelining themselves then it will be up to the EU to save the planet or go bankrupt whichever comes first 🙂
China and USA have both flagged a proposed EU Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism (CBAM) tax will be viewed as unilateral trade protection measure and will be subject to retaliation. So EU has painted itself into a very difficult place with its two largest trade parties.
So the biggest loser at COP30 by far was the EU.
Very humble approach. Leave leading to countries who believe it is their destiny to rule the world by virtue of their moral superiority and superior intellect.
Only joking – I think.
China is committed to its own transition but wants to work with other nations, such as the EU and Global South, to maintain momentum on climate goals and avoid a retreat in global efforts.
By “committed” it means we’re going to keep building coal powered generation to churn out endless solar panels and windmills to help the EU’s momentum buying them. For show they’ll build one giant solar field and take pictures of it from 27 angles to claim it is 27 different fields and without enough detail that anyone can spot that its not connected to anything.
DH:
Yep, China is committed to 1) selling wind & solar equipment to any and all suckers stupid enough to buy them, 2) take those $100s of billions dollars/yr to build more reliable coal plants, 3) keep their wind, solar & coal workers employed, and 4) crippling their geostrategic and economic competitors economies by doing #1. [For example see the EU. Fortunately, in 2024, the US got off the stupid climate train that leads to economic oblivion]
More proof that AGW is about politics and not temperature.
What does it take to revoke the 1992 treaty?
Too many of Trump’s actions are just executive orders which the next President can undo just as easily, as was done with the Paris treaty Trump 1.0 withdrew from, Biden put back in play, and Trump 2.0 withdrew from again. That wasn’t a ratified treaty. Can Congress pass a law declaring it void, and would that prevent the 2029 President from reactivating Paris?
Congress can do a lot of things, sadly the uniparty needs these issues for fundraising.
Trump can send it to the Senate to ratify. That could kill it just as the Kyoto Protocol was by a 95-0 vote on the Byrd-Hagel Resolution. The same essential conditions still exist.
The Kyoto treaty was never sent to Congress. The 95-0 vote was a “sense of the Congress” resolution. It was not a vote on the treaty itself.
Yes, but it was essentially killed since no Senator wanted to specifically attach their name to the premise of it.
Western Europe is becoming irrelevant faster than I suspected it would. Its only hope to is start a big war with Russia and suck in the USA. In the past, Western Europe’s big wars sucked in the entire world because of European colonies. No more. And, since Western Europe has nothing to steal (no resources, etc.), nobody is going to come to their aid. They are too arrogant to decline gracefully and quietly.
Based on past experience, the US would wait to see who was about to win, and then leap in . Taking credit for the “victory” of course, and demonstrating ultimate moral flexibility by supporting its enemies against its allies later on.
Pragmatic, if a little distasteful to some. With a friend like the US, enemies are irrelevant.
Mind you, the US has positioned its military forces to convincingly win World War 2, should it arise again. Against an enemy equipped with anything better than AK47’s, the outcome may not be a lay-down misère.
I’m not a fan of predicting the outcomes of armed conflicts. I’ll leave that to the “experts”.
Britain was “about to win” when the US entered WWII?
Can I point out for the benefit of the ignorant and gullible that I didn’t mention Britain at all?
However, some idea of the ability of US forces when facing a real enemy “filled up with untrained boys and old men, often unfit for normal military service.” can be gauged by examining the Battle of Hurtgen Forest in late 1944. It was the longest battle of WW2 on German ground, involving the US.
The US forces lost up to 55,000 killed and wounded, in spite of outnumbering the German forces by at least 5 to 1. German losses were 28,000.
From Wikipedia –
A former US company commander at the battle,and later military historian wrote –
You really have no idea about facts, do you? You believe that adding CO2 to air makes thermometers hotter! That shows the level of your ignorance and gullibility.
Learn to read English – physics and history are obviously beyond your grasp at present.
You must have hit some patriotic nerve as 14 downvotes for a pretty harmless comment with certain truths is way over the top,
as you got them mostly for paraphrasing the very top of US politics.
Heinz Kissingers ” Having the US as enemy can be dangerous, but being their friend is leathal.
I disagree with your claim that the USA is waiting to side with the winner.
This war is a US child in cooperation with UK/CoL.
“The USA has invested 5 billions in Ukraine” (Nuland) to get this war started not Europe.
Their position was 100% obvious after Nulands ” F… the EU ” call was leaked.
They put their proxy “Yazenjuk is our man”(Nuland) into position
with the old plan to destroy Russia via Ukraine = Heartland Theory> Brzezinkies Grand Chessboard 1997 to use Ukraine as hammer to destroy Russia> Rand Corporation 2019 plan to overextend Russia
The USA won’t side with Russia(Russia has already won the war,as Ukraine is cracking everywhere right now),but they’ll simply walk away from the show as a Mafia Boss would abandon his Hitman who failed to kill the other Don to save his own life.
I’m not really “claiming”, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the US decides that being allied to Russia might be more profitable than being allied to Ukraine.
Maybe the US will invade Russia to pillage its natural resources (oil, gas, “rare earths” etc.), but I doubt it. Russia has a history of defeating invaders, and lost about 24,000,000 in WW2.
The future is unknowable.
The US won’t dare pick a fight with Russia It will do it indirectly with surrogates as it is doing now to a very limited degree , but US troops etc on Russian soil No way !! the US is far more powerful in Military hardware numbers no doubt but superior in quality , those days are gone . Russia now is very very battle hardened with at least 1.5 million under arms and don’t forget about the Russian Patriotism ! And Russian missile production and performance ! The hypersonic missiles have effectively eliminated aircraft carriers from the battlefield (upto 5000 miles) as just one missile travelling at 2-3 miles a second CANNOT to be stopped and will cut a carrier in two and send it to the bottom .
Europe is surrounded and outnumbered by the rest of the world now. Without America, their green fever-dream will have to end, with a wimper (end the green energiewende and switch to natural gas and nuclear), or with a bang (energy sector and economic collapse of the EU). It’s not too late, Europa. But time’s running out.
If Germany’s pending solution becomes law it will almost certainly be “too late”:
CDU Electricity Subsidy Vote – Economic Consequence
The CDU-led coalition is set to approve direct subsidies to cut electricity prices, estimated at €13.5 billion annually for grid fee and tax reductions. While this offers short-term relief for households and industry, the long-term fiscal outlook is problematic: euractiv
Think of how much carbon was saved by not sending the U.S. delegation.
Trump is saving the planet!
China: We really need to help the third world with climate change.
EU: Yes we do.
China: We’re stepping up. We’re driving down the cost of solar panels for them.
EU: That’s awesome!
China: But we’re disappointed in the EU
EU: What us? We don’t make solar panels!
China: But you have credit
EU: Credit?
China: Yes, they don’t have enough money to buy our solar panels so you could help by extending them a line of credit.
EU: That makes total sense! You’ll make the solar panels as cheap as possible and we’ll help them buy them!
China: That brilliant. It was kind of your idea though, we’ll let you have the limelight and announce it at a press conference.
EU: That is SO generous of you. Hang on, calling CNN now…
How many more of these ridiculous state funded junkets/jamborees will there be before the tax payers are finally given a break and the state employees who attend these pointless get togethers are told to get back to real work.
The score card graphing the outcome of these 30 COP extravaganzas is, Western Nations becoming weak and insignificant while climate impact from 33 years of COP decisions is exactly zero.
The zero impact on climate was always going to be the case because their fixation with CO2 ensured climate would be unaffected no matter what the COP delegates come up with.
The impact on developed nation’s economic growth however, has been staggeringly damaging.
While the West has been busy destroying itself at the false altar of climate change the developing nations led by China, India, Indonesia and others have accelerated ahead, thanks to the unrestricted use of fossil fuels, mostly coal enabling them to undercut the West’s price for any manufactured product.
The Donald made a sensible decision not to allow state officials to attend COP 30. Let us all hope this is the direction of travel from here on and the next COP is the last.
WE simply can’t afford the virtue signalling nonsense any more.
Chat GPT: Given the publicly available numbers and reasonable assumptions, a defensible ball-park estimate for the total global cost of COP 30 (including host-nation spending + all government-funded delegations + logistics) is:
≈ USD 1.4–1.6 billion
If the money wasted on COP get togethers over the past 33 years had been spent on clean water supply in Africa. There would be fully piped clean treated water for the continent’s impoverished nations and they might stop needing the endless charities who support unending water aid for Africa.
Chat GPT: Total Estimated Cost for COP1–COP30≈ $12–13 billion USD (global taxpayer money)
Sen Whitehouse from Rhode Island was whining the the other day that he couldn’t fly down to Brazil in order to attend COP30, because Trump wouldn’t authorize government funding for it.
Last time I checked, plane tickets from D.C. to Rio are plentiful and not that expensive. Surely if the trip was that vital, Sen. Whitehouse could find the money in his campaign fund, to pay for it.
I’ve seen estimates of his net worth of over $20 million.
I think he could afford to buy his own ticket if he really thought it was that important.
But he didn’t think it was unless he could put our money where his mouth is.
Well, the majority is always wrong! However, in the end the end they will all recognize that the fundamentals apply – if there is a powerful trailblazer suich a Trump to take the lead!
If they do hold COP31, and I doubt they will, it will be an even bigger failure than this one was.
I am predicting smaller failure. It will for sure be a failure, but fewer will attend. It will fizzle out, at least as long as Donald Trump is in the game. With AOC as future president, cop may still have a chance (to guzzle up more taxpayer money)
Fewer attendees = Big Failure. Also, less interest has a snowball effect. No one wants to go to a lame party. COP is dead, Jim.
If Australia’s bozo minister Chris Bowen is the president of CoP under Turkey’s hosting, it will be a shambles running well over budget, and accomplish s.f.a.
Bowen has been around for decades in Labor governments, and he’s fvcked up everything he’s ever been involved with.
Yank that curtain back and SHAZAM nothing is there.
Translation: The US Money Tree wasn’t there to shake.
In the above article:
“Thank You, Mr. President! Trump’s masterclass move not to send U.S. delegation, blamed for failure of UN climate summit!”
Really . . . how do your know? You mean to tell me there has ever been a COP that merited the classification of being “successful”???
Well, all of them so far, depending on the main objective.
Which has always only ever been to agree on a date and venue for the NEXT CoP boondoggle.
So – all agreed, that’s a wrap! = SUCCESS!
Yeah, such a meaningless metric for “success”.
What makes anyone believe that if the US had attended COPP 30, it would have swung the balance in favor of climate action? The country has wisely decided and announced that it will continue the extraction and use of fossil fuels as long as they can continue providing economic and export benefits. Meanwhile it has gradually reduced its emissions by introducing a switch away from coal toward natural gas. Can they same be said for the other big emitters? And if they’re not reducing fossil fuel dependence, it’s because they realize that alternates like renewables won’t provide the same advantages and never mind any fairy tales about saving the planet from a fake climate crisis.
Yes, thank you!!!
I think the US is going to need a climate immigrant impact tax for all the energy spent leaving net zero countries in search of normalacy and reasonable living in America.
Finally it’s happening , the Climate con is well on the way to collapsing but like any very large pile of excrement it takes a while to clear away . If for 30 years or so you constantly scream out that the sky is falling and it’s going to kill us all very soon but nothing happens then even the brainwashed millions who were convinced by the “evidence ” drift away , lose patience , actually look at and read the evidence .