Scientists Warn About Scientists’ Warnings

Guest Post By Willis Eschenbach

Only a journalist truly committed to the ancient art of panic-clickbait could squeeze all the world’s existential dread into a headline like, “A Giant, Destructive Volcanic Eruption Is Set to Shake the World in the Coming Months, Bringing About the End of Mankind, Scientists Warn.” They’ve accompanied it with the following graphic, in case you weren’t adequately terrified.

The dead giveaway? “Scientists Warn.” Whenever you see those two words sandwiched together above the fold, you know you’re about to step into a wonderland of wild extrapolation, qualified maybes, and models run so far into the future they boomerang back with “robots take over” as the y-axis.

They start out as follows:

A detailed geophysical study published in Nature in by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) has refined our understanding of the Yellowstone supervolcano, uncovering new insights into its subsurface magma dynamics. Concurrently, climatological assessments by researchers such as Markus Stoffel (University of Geneva) have renewed discourse around the global systemic risks posed by a potential super-eruption — not only at Yellowstone, but at several other active volcanic complexes worldwide.

There’s an oddity here to start with. They’ve pushed together into one paragraph an actual scientific study of the Yellowstone caldera, and a paywalled puff piece by some random guy trying to frighten people about future eruptions. Unless you’re watching very closely to see which walnut the pea is under, it’s likely to be successful in making you think “Wow, a predicted super-eruption at Yellowstone, and the odds are high in other locations as well”.

Which does sound scary. So keep that thought in mind while we look at the first of the two parts they’ve pushed into one paragraph—the actual Yellowstone scientific study.

It’s the latest USGS study published in Nature under the very boring title “The progression of basaltic–rhyolitic melt storage at Yellowstone Caldera”. It gives us an upgraded, high-res CAT scan of Yellowstone’s magma plumbing. Instead of a giant pool of liquid doom sloshing under Wyoming, the new imaging shows a club sandwich: scattered blobs of partially molten rock, unevenly distributed, with most of the melt sitting in the northeast sector. The scale is impressive—400–500 cubic kilometers of rhyolitic magma waiting for its cosmic moment. The heat just keeps bubbling up from below, slow and relentless, and with enough time, these melt zones might even hook up into a larger reservoir. But spoiler: no scientist anywhere is claiming that’s on tomorrow’s chore list.

Which brings us to the great, headline-grabbing “16% chance (one in six) of apocalypse by 2100” further down in the popular reports—a number that, if ever printed on a lottery ticket, would bankrupt Las Vegas. From the article:

Still, climatologist Markus Stoffel and affiliated risk researchers estimate a ~16% probability of a VEI 7 or higher eruption occurring globally before the year 2100.

Except that particular prediction is not referred to by the scientists of the actual Yellowstone study, and has nothing to do with the Yellowstone study.

It comes from a some gentleman yclept Markus Stoffel. And he’s not even talking about Yellowstone. He’s talking about the entire planet. Nothing to do with Yellowstone.

And who is Markus when he’s at home? Is he a member of the team of authors of the Yellowstone study?

Nope.

Well, is he a vulcanologist?

Nope again.

He’s a climate professor at the University of Geneva. He’s published a lot, almost entirely regarding the effects of “climate change” on glaciers, mountain landslides, and mountain lakes. To quote from his bio page,

In a nutshell, my research is related to climate change impacts, time-series and dynamics of hydrogeomorphic and earth-surface processes at altitude and/or high latitudes, as well as on dendroecology and wood anatomy of trees and shrubs.

Translated, that means he mostly studies the nature and dynamics of landslides, and their effect on tree rings and tree populations.

Stoffel’s global “super-eruption” probability is based on … well … it’s hard to find that out. It’s from a paywalled opinion piece (not a peer reviewed study), and I’m not paying the monkey. It’s headlined:


The next massive volcano eruption will cause climate chaos — and we are unprepared

Volcanic activity will be experienced differently in a warmer world. Researchers need to understand these risks and how they could spiral.


Now, what he’s calling a “massive” volcanic eruption is scientifically known as a VEI-7 eruption or larger. The Volcanic Explosivity Index (VEI) is a logarithmic scale from 0 to 8 used to measure the relative explosiveness of volcanic eruptions. “Logarithmic” means that each step is ten times the previous step. So a VEI-7 eruption is ten times as explosive as a VEI-6 eruption. And it’s a hundred times as explosive as the VEI-5 Vesuvius eruption that buried Pompeii … so yes. Massive.

Near as I can tell from published reports and descriptions of the piece, the estimate uses a recurrence-interval logic. However, I can’t make that fit with real-world data. There have been 7 VEI-7 or stronger eruptions throughout relatively well-documented history since the eruption of the Akahoya Volcano in Japan in 7,300 BC until the eruption of Mt. Tambora 110 years ago. This makes the recurrence interval on the order of 1,070 years. So we’ll call it a thousand years. And this “thousand-year event” figure is widely quoted in the scientific literature about eruptions of VEI-7 or greater.

OK, math warning. Jump over the marked section if you don’t like math.

WARNING: MATH DANGER ZONE BELOW


Now, the Poisson formula for the probability P of a VEI-7 eruption within a certain number of years is calculated as

P = 1 − eλt

where λ  is the annual rate (1/1000) and t is the time window (75 years to the year 2100).


MATH DANGER ZONE ENDS

This means the odds of a VEI-7 or greater eruption before 2100 is 7%. Counterintuitively, it doesn’t matter how long it’s been since the last eruption. Odds are the same whether the last blowout was a hundred or a thousand years ago.

So Señor Stoffel is doing some kind of plain and fancy statistical tapdancing to get a value more than twice that of traditional math. To get to his 16% chance by the year 2100 number, the recurrence interval of massive eruptions would have to be 430 years, and there’s no evidence of that.

(Curiously, and perhaps not coincidentally, the chance of a massive eruption by the year 2200 is indeed 16% … but I digress.)

Now, about this “end of mankind” bit—don’t bother searching the Nature study. You’ll find plenty of detail on mineralogy and melt percentages, reams of electron microscope scans, and lots of caution about inferring timeframes. You will not, under peer review or USGS letterhead, find predictions about humanity’s extinction. What the data actually say is that Yellowstone’s timetable is wildly non-periodic, there are no clear cycles, and the statistical sample is, by any reasonable standard, too tiny for fortune-telling.

The actual hazard of monster eruptions somewhere on the globe? Real, yes. And it has been for the last nine thousand years.

Visibly increasing? No. The hazards have been the same over the entire nine millennia, and our ability to deal with such events has never been better.

Likely to bring about the “end of mankind”? Well, the last eight such events didn’t even begin to end mankind. They brought a few years of bad weather, sometimes very bad early on and close to the eruption. But not many people died worldwide.

So I’m gonna put my money on “No chance in hell” that the next one ends mankind.

Worth prepping your doomsday bunker over a panicky headline about eruptions written by a man with a PhD. thesis titled “Spatio-temporal variations of rockfall activity into forests – results from tree-ring and tree analysis”?

Maybe not this quarter.

So next time you see “Scientists Warn” above a picture of a bison grazing a steamy caldera, remember: It’s never the geologists issuing the press-release countdown to Armageddon. The real science, as usual, is in the fine print—buried under three layers of model assumptions, and almost always ending with some version of, “we simply don’t know when.”

My very best to everyone, life is good.

w.

As I May Have Mentioned Before: When you comment, I implore you to quote the exact words you are discussing. I’m SO tired of people saying something like “You are entirely wrong about volcanoes” or the like, and I have no idea if they’re talking to me or someone else, and if so, about what.

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NotChickenLittle
August 19, 2025 10:09 am

It’s not yet as bad as “99% of lawyers give the other 1% a bad name” but at least some “scientists” seem determined to catch up…especially those of the “climate” variety.

strativarius
August 19, 2025 10:14 am

Vesuvius

I don’t know about the global scene, but the Campi Flagrei are quite active.

ironargonaut
Reply to  strativarius
August 19, 2025 1:34 pm

Always thought provoking when you think about Naples Italy being inside the caldera of a super volcano.

Dave Fair
August 19, 2025 10:15 am

IIRC (vaguely), Yellowstone’s super caldera has blown about every 600 to 700 thousand years. The eruptions have been moving northeast each time due to continental drift. Its been over 600 thousand years since the last one.

If (when) that happens, most of North America is toast and the rest of the world is going on a diet.

KevinM
Reply to  Dave Fair
August 19, 2025 10:39 am

Oh yeah, that _was_ on Tuesday 600,000 years ago. I remember I was eating a peanut butter sandwich and checking the results of the North American Camelope races.

Scarecrow Repair
Reply to  KevinM
August 19, 2025 10:56 am

No, you’re not taking into consideration (a) there was no year zero, and (b) the proper shift to the Gregorian Calendar.

KevinM
Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
August 19, 2025 11:22 am

Awww sh– I was using the Babylonian lunisolar version that has leap decades.

Scarecrow Repair
Reply to  KevinM
August 19, 2025 1:50 pm

You win. By gum, you win! That is magnificent 🙂

George Thompson
Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
August 19, 2025 3:16 pm

Truly waaaay good-as you said, magnificent! A real brain twister…

Reply to  Dave Fair
August 19, 2025 11:24 am

Ashfall State Park in Nebraska was formed due to a super volcano some 12 million years ago. The volcano was in the in Idaho but part of the Yellowstone complex. I think your 600-700 thousand years between eruption is a reasonable guess.

John Hultquist
Reply to  mkelly
August 19, 2025 1:32 pm

Bruneau-Jarbidge volcanic field, mentioned in my comment below @1:29

Rick C
Reply to  Dave Fair
August 19, 2025 9:27 pm

If that’s the case replacing Willis’s 1000 year reoccurrence with 600,000 makes the probability of an eruption by 2100 0.0125%. Not zero, but nothing to lose sleep over.

Reply to  Rick C
August 20, 2025 9:15 am

But we have used up 5-6 hundred thousand of those years since last one.

Ron Long
August 19, 2025 10:34 am

Good catch on scary science. The creeping-slow-moving basalt eruptions are boring. The explosive pyroclastic explosive rhyolite eruptions called Plinian Eruptions, after Pliny the Elder, whose last words were “Oh Schist” are the Big Bang deal. As a magma chamber cools it starts crystallizing, and the accumulation of gas bubbles determines the timing and style of an eruption. Early eruptions, with few bubbles and a basic composition, produce flows. Delayed eruption, with a more felsic composition and a lot of gas bubbles (where the bubble walls start to fail) produces the explosive event. Yellowstone, whose heat source is a discharge from the core-mantle interface, has undergone enough pyroclastic eruptions, and collapse caldera formation, that the ability to accumulate enough gas bubbles for another big one is limited. However, don’t hang around downwind too much, just in case that sciency deal doesn’t work.

Reply to  Ron Long
August 20, 2025 9:17 am

He watched Vesuvius erupt and wrote about it in real time. I think it was Younger not Elder.

KevinM
August 19, 2025 10:35 am

5 Stars for an epic rant.

strativarius
Reply to  KevinM
August 19, 2025 11:21 am

Life isn’t good?

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  KevinM
August 19, 2025 11:38 am

You don’t think… pause… that reporting on a scientific investigation and coupling it with a doomsday proclamation that is irrelevant to the science is NOT worth a rant?

Especially when the prophet of doom has no geological background and his limited education in volcanism is reading one report?

oeman50
Reply to  Sparta Nova 4
August 20, 2025 5:16 am

But “everyone” knows CO2 causes volcanoes, doesn’t it?

Reply to  oeman50
August 20, 2025 9:19 am

You jest, but years ago it was claimed that volcanoes would become more prevalent as glaciers melt due to CO2.

Reply to  oeman50
August 20, 2025 9:24 am

Maybe if they stopped taking CO2 out of the air and pumping it into the ground there’d be less “Lava Warming”?

Reply to  oeman50
August 21, 2025 6:24 am

🙂

Slipper When Wet – Correlation is Causality
Wet When Slippery – Correlation is not Causality

Leon de Boer
Reply to  KevinM
August 19, 2025 5:53 pm

Yes the exact term is “climate scientists warn” and you always know you have a good laugh for the day coming 🙂

dk_
August 19, 2025 10:47 am

Per his bio, Markus (Herr is more likely an honorrific than Seňor) is Past Vice President Int.Tree-Ring Society, and it seems he’s more of a forestry “expert” than a geologist, and thereby really much better at extracting a hypothesis from feeble (if not imaginary) input data than statistics.

strativarius
Reply to  dk_
August 19, 2025 11:30 am

Tree-Ring Society

Ents.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  strativarius
August 19, 2025 12:43 pm

Hoom hom.

Curious George
Reply to  dk_
August 22, 2025 12:59 pm

The best geologist among tree ring experts. My friend is the best chess player among Czech mathematicians, and the best mathematician among Czech chess players.

August 19, 2025 11:18 am

Global warming must have made the lava in that second photo MUCH hotter!

I have watched flowing lava reach the sea. It does not send a tongue of glowing lava several hundred feet offshore.

Apparently the AI image generator does not know that lava encountering seawater generates lots of steam. Further, it doesn’t know that lava sinks when it hits the ocean.

Good thing AI is much smarter than we mere mortals!

JonasM
Reply to  pillageidiot
August 19, 2025 2:40 pm

I envy you. Seeing flowing lava in person, no magnification, is on my bucket list.
The concept of molten rock is so amazing and mind-blowing I really need to see it!

Reply to  JonasM
August 20, 2025 9:47 am

I really need to see it!

Take some pictures for me, I’ll stay where I am 🙂

Steve B.
Reply to  pillageidiot
August 22, 2025 8:03 pm

AI = Artificial Ignorance, as opposed to real ignorance I suppose. Although one could be forgiven for not being able to tell the difference.

August 19, 2025 11:18 am

Another very entertaining read – and I appreciate the math warning. While not quite as mathaphobic as Calvin, my math abilities are a bit limited, although I am pretty good with spreadsheets.

Would be curious to know if any of this possibility is being blamed on increasing levels of co2…

Sparta Nova 4
August 19, 2025 11:29 am

Stoffel’s global “super-eruption” probability is based on … 

1/6 = 16.7% perhaps since there are some 16-20 identified super volcanoes, maybe he is betting on 3 of 18 popping in the next 74 years.

But the earth will be burning and the oceans boiling by then, so WTF do we care about a volcano. According to the Climate Nazis, we will all be dead by then anyway.
/sarc

Kevin Kilty
August 19, 2025 11:49 am

Thank you, Willis, for once again reiterating that recurrence interval measure doesn’t mean these events take place so-and-so many years apart, but that the only parameter describing their distribution is one with units of one divided by time.

Henry Pool
August 19, 2025 12:40 pm

Ja. Ja.
Some scientists actually warn that the effect of more CO2 is nothing or less…

https://breadonthewater.co.za/2025/08/13/an-evaluation-of-the-green-house-effect-by-carbon-dioxide-3/

Yooper
Reply to  Henry Pool
August 20, 2025 4:32 am
Yooper
Reply to  Yooper
August 20, 2025 4:33 am

Oops, forgot to add “Story Tip”…

Sparta Nova 4
Reply to  Yooper
August 20, 2025 1:36 pm

These generally accepted hypotheses, however, may reflect a dogmatic approach, or a postmodern ideological effect, i.e., to blame everything on human actions. Hence, the null hypothesis that all observed changes are (mostly) natural has not seriously been investigated. 

strativarius
August 19, 2025 12:43 pm

Story tip

Another European country restarts drilling for North Sea oil as UK urged to follow suit

The Conservatives and Reform UK said Energy Secretary Ed Miliband should reconsider the ban on new oil and gas licences as Norway opens the basin to exploration

Norway became Britain’s primary source of gas last year
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/2095553/european-country-restarts-drilling-oil-norway

E. Schaffer
August 19, 2025 1:04 pm

Mount Tamborra was arguably a VEI 7 eruption in 1815. It was quite a disaster with global impact, but not nearly an exctinction level event.

wxobserver
August 19, 2025 1:15 pm

I’ve always liked this realist video about Yellowstone:

ironargonaut
August 19, 2025 1:22 pm

Slightly off topic was checking to see what St. Helens 1980 eruption was on VEI scale.(it was a 5). And I stupidly typed “what vei scale was Mt. Hood eruption” clicked duck duck go’s search assist and it told me Mt Hood erupted on Dec 9 2023 with a 5 VEI. Wow! Talk about surprises, how did I miss that! <sarcasm>. Why are people so afraid of machine learning (aka AI) again?

John Hultquist
Reply to  ironargonaut
August 19, 2025 1:43 pm

Question asked differently gets this: “Mount Hood began to form during volcanic eruptions between 500,000 and 700,000 years ago.”
I missed those too!

John Hultquist
August 19, 2025 1:29 pm

Background reading: see Wikipedia page for:
Bruneau-Jarbidge volcanic field

About 3 years ago a USGS top researcher presented about Yellowstone at Central Washington University. It was informative. We were warned not to believe the hype about it going off with a big bang.

1saveenergy
August 19, 2025 1:55 pm

“The next massive volcano eruption will cause climate chaos — and we are unprepared”
We are prepared, we stocked up with milk, toilet rolls & a tinfoil hat, so bring it on !!
Pete, the proper prepper (:-))

R.Morton
August 19, 2025 2:01 pm

100% of the time I am .001% correct.

August 19, 2025 2:03 pm

He’s a climate professor “….

All you need to know to LOL…. and then ignore everything he says as being total bovex..

August 19, 2025 2:33 pm

The next massive volcano eruption will cause climate chaos — and we are unprepared

Doesn’t every massive volcano eruption cause climate chaos? And yet, here we are…

Cyberdyne
August 19, 2025 3:07 pm

The professors bio is here:
https://www.unige.ch/sciences/terre/en/people/dst/professors/markus-stoffel/.
If he doesn’t publish anything, he’s out of a job. Might as well milk the climate cow while it’s still producing.

I counted 12 papers having to do with tree-rings to discern debris flow, avalanches, landslides, and rock falls. Are tree rings the alarmists tea leaves? I would love to see a repeatability/reproducibility study on them to see just how well they can be used to measure anything. I’m guessing he was so good at counting rings, that he was made Vice President of the International Tree-Ring Society (yep – that is a real thing – as shown on his bio page)

There is no way this person could survive outside of academia.

Reply to  Cyberdyne
August 19, 2025 5:13 pm

Funny that they never seem to use tree rings for CO2 levels.

Even though CO2 is one of the main ingredients for tree growth

John Hultquist
Reply to  Cyberdyne
August 19, 2025 7:23 pm

just how well they can be used to measure anything“.

Time. That is dates in years. See: Dendrochronology (or tree-ring dating) 

Reply to  Cyberdyne
August 21, 2025 6:28 am

This one is too easy

||||| No landslide/avalanche

_ _ _ _ _ Landslide / avalanche – tree bark disturbed and horizontal.

Arthur Jackson
August 19, 2025 3:29 pm

Thought this was The Bee for a second there.

John Pickens
August 19, 2025 3:37 pm

How did the Hunga Tunga eruption measure up on this scale?

John Hultquist
Reply to  John Pickens
August 19, 2025 7:26 pm

5+

jvcstone
August 19, 2025 4:18 pm

Well Darn! Ever since this old geologist first read about the Yellowstone Super V, I wanted to live long enough to see the next big blow. Now reading all this potential time estimates, I don’t think I’ll manage that no mater how good my diet, and stress free life style is. Oh well, maybe someone can arrange a little divine intervention on my part. Really nice picture at the top of the article, BTW
Thanks Willis for another very good report.

Bob
August 19, 2025 4:37 pm

Very nice Willis.

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