COP29 On Verge Of Collapse

From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT

By Paul Homewood

The fun has started at COP29!

For years successive COPs have papered over the cracks, but the cracks have now become unbridgeable chasms.

The West wants the world to give up fossil fuels. The developing countries want money, lots of it that the West can’t afford.

Meanwhile, China and the rest of Asia want a free pass both from cutting emissions and paying money out. And the major oil producing countries have said “On your bike!”

So far at Baku, the West has promised to pony up $250bn a year by 2035 in climate aid. But when inflation is taken into account, this is barely more than the $100bn agreed at Copenhagen in 2008. The third world wanted $1.3 trillion.

China still refuses to pay a cent, and Azerbaijan has made it clear that it will not abandon its God-given gift of oil and gas.

As for cutting emissions, the whole idea has had to take a back seat to this unseemly scrabble for money.

Meanwhile everybody knows the whole thing is a charade, because Trump won’t merely pull out of the Paris Agreement next year, he will take his money with him.

The whole thing is, of course, hilarious. All we need now is for Ed Miliband to try eating a bacon buttie again!

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HB
November 23, 2024 6:27 pm

As expected

Russell Cook
Reply to  HB
November 24, 2024 7:18 am

As the number of COP meetings rise, Clima-Change™ causes them to fail at an increasingly faster rate.

missoulamike
November 23, 2024 6:32 pm

Reality can be harsh for those who dwell in a fantasy world…algore and lurch hardest hit.

F. Leghorn
Reply to  missoulamike
November 27, 2024 3:15 pm

I guess they’ll just take their billions and go (to one of their) home(s).

Paul Seward
November 23, 2024 6:42 pm

Ha Ha, Reality strikes

November 23, 2024 6:43 pm

Love it! And entirely predictable 😂

John Hultquist
November 23, 2024 6:49 pm

 A saying from the late 1800s has gotten turned around and now we have: “pull themselves up by their bootstraps”, implying that socioeconomic advancement is something that all should be able to do, although expect it to be difficult.
This is good advice for the countries wanting gobs of money the developed countries don’t have.

Rich Davis
November 23, 2024 7:04 pm

Sometimes you Brits can be inscrutable. Why exactly is there any significance to a politician eating a bacon sandwich? And how can anyone have trouble doing so?

Alexy Scherbakoff
Reply to  Rich Davis
November 23, 2024 7:36 pm
atticman
Reply to  Alexy Scherbakoff
November 24, 2024 4:53 am

To paraphrase the old song: “I fought the bacon sandwich and the sandwich won”. That’s how useless the man is!

Idle Eric
Reply to  Rich Davis
November 24, 2024 5:31 am

Next up, The EdStone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EdStone

The man was useless as LoTO, and is just as useless now.

David Goeden
November 23, 2024 7:40 pm

After searching the furniture and car seats I have 59 cents. Does anyone know Al Gore’s address?

Bryan A
Reply to  David Goeden
November 23, 2024 11:10 pm

W O W…that’s like $1,000,000 in 2019 Dollar$…pre inflation reduction act before Bidenflation
really kicked in and devalued the Dollar

Reply to  David Goeden
November 24, 2024 1:01 am

I found some mouldy dog biscuits. !

Bruce Cobb
Reply to  bnice2000
November 24, 2024 6:12 am

Those would probably be good on a nice bacon buttie.

Scissor
Reply to  David Goeden
November 24, 2024 7:39 am

I drove by his Montecito mansion once and to be honest it was quite a ways up the hill. I understand the mansions sometimes have a bathhouse on the beach.

mleskovarsocalrrcom
November 23, 2024 7:44 pm

Look at all the damage this scam has produced so far and project it forward. Now AGW is eating itself.

Bob
November 23, 2024 8:23 pm

More good news, things are looking up.

November 23, 2024 8:37 pm

CNNCOP29:World agrees to climate deal on financial aid for developing countries after summit nearly implodeshttps://www.cnn.com/2024/11/23/climate/cop29-agreement

????

Bill Toland
Reply to  AndyHce
November 24, 2024 12:20 am

According to the deal, western countries aim to provide 300 billion dollars a year to the Swiss bank accounts of third world dictators by 2035. I am also aiming to become a billionaire next year; I think that is more likely to happen than the 300 billion dollars a year.

November 23, 2024 8:58 pm

Who is actually giving anyone any money. Is it Climate Reporter twaddle, aka Mickey Mouse money?

EDIT: Just read the title of AndyHce’s link. It’s the world agreeing to it. Yay, well done World.

Admin
November 23, 2024 9:03 pm

I think last year was funnier, they allegedly lured Pacific Islanders out of the room to clinch the deal while they were gone.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/12/14/cop28-were-small-nations-lured-away-so-a-deal-could-be-struck/

Scissor
Reply to  Eric Worrall
November 24, 2024 7:48 am

Similar to this transparency.

November 23, 2024 9:06 pm

It seems Blackout Bowen opened the Aussie account with USD50m. That only leaves USD299950m for the rich nations.

Can anyone tell me who the rich nations are?

Apparently Germany counts loans in their climate ambition to poor nations. So with strings attached like paying back with interest.

I wonder what authority the representatives of the rich nations have to offer up their tax payer money to enriching dictators around the globe.

observa
Reply to  RickWill
November 23, 2024 10:03 pm

I’m over the $50million for the grifters and gangsters as it’s been mostly good news all round with the usual suspects-
Labor’s misinformation bill is ‘dead and buried’ for now
and word has it Elon’s toying with snapping up MSNBC for a song. LOL

Dsystem
November 23, 2024 9:18 pm

Hopefully King Climate is being seen with no clothes. The nonsense will stop quickly.

BTW: rather than “fossil fuels” can we refer to them as “Organic Fuels”?

JamesB_684
Reply to  Dsystem
November 24, 2024 5:43 am

They are Hydrocarbons. … from organic and primordial sources.

CD in Wisconsin
November 23, 2024 9:39 pm

“The third world wanted $1.3 trillion.”

I recall my nephew showing me a fake $1 million dollar bill which he ordered off an internet website. It has Donald Trump’s picture on it. We could print up a bunch of them and send the third world countries as many as they want.

Bryan A
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
November 23, 2024 11:13 pm

Why not print $1,000,000,000 with sleepy Joe on the front
Bidillion $$$ Biden Bucks

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Bryan A
November 24, 2024 3:32 am

Yes, except wouldn’t Donald Trump’s picture on the front be better?

Bryan A
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
November 24, 2024 7:47 pm

Only if the reverse resembled
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The True Trump Card

Dave Fair
Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
November 24, 2024 9:30 am

Remember when the Obama Administration was handing out cell phones to his loyal voters? When asked how the phones were paid for a group said it came from “Obama’s Stash.”

November 24, 2024 1:19 am
Reply to  JohnC
November 24, 2024 2:42 am

Well, that’s alright, once you break it down. After service fees, delivery fees, insurance, legal services deductions, administrative fees, notary fees, stamp duty, customs duty, transaction taxes, and tips, that comes to about… $3.57.

November 24, 2024 1:25 am

climate change is the new name for corruption.
australia says not strict enough? stop producing coal, hypocrites!
small nations sinking? evidence?
warming bad? evidence?
hopefully trump will kill this farcical annual pilgrimage.

Westfieldmike
November 24, 2024 1:32 am

They managed to scam 300 Billion out of us then

Bill Toland
Reply to  Westfieldmike
November 24, 2024 2:56 am

It’s only a scam if the money is actually paid. It won’t be. It is very easy for a politician to promise something which will not be enacted until 2035 when the politician will be out of office.

Idle Eric
Reply to  Bill Toland
November 24, 2024 5:39 am

I see a problem.

Most of the advanced nations have a foreign aid budget (~$60bn for the US), by making promises to tackle climate change, what is likely to happen is that these funds get diverted from useful aid projects, to useless climate virtue signalling projects (and assorted Swiss bank accounts).

Bill Toland
Reply to  Idle Eric
November 24, 2024 9:02 am

That is already happening in Britain.

David Wells
November 24, 2024 3:00 am

Was it ever thus. “As early as 1864 George Perkins Marsh, sometimes said to be the father of American ecology, warned that the earth was ‘fast becoming an unfit home for its “noblest inhabitant,”’ and that unless men changed their ways it would be reduced ‘to such a condition of impoverished productiveness, of shattered surface, of climatic excess, as to threaten the deprivation, barbarism, and perhaps even extinction of the species.’” —MIT professor Leo Marx.

“One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole,” “We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy,” Ottmar Edenhofer, IPCC working group on Mitigation of Climate Change 2008 to 2015.

 

“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” Christina Figueres, Executive Secretary, UN’s Framework Convention on Climate Change. Marxist.

 

Keep this in mind. Here is the original definition and objective of the big lie, quoting from Adolf Hitler’s Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels:

 

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the state can shield the people from the political, economic, and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the state to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the state.”

In 2008 my energy bill in the UK was £750 in 2023 for a lower consumption it was £2688. 23 million homes at approximately £2,000/home is £46 billion a year being sucked out of the economy to pay for being green. Its not surprising that the UK isnt growing with the highest energy costs on the planet.

There is enough money in the UK to pay for what people want but these egregious mutton headed politicians as forever insist on spending the tax payers cash on fluffy vanity projects like saving the planet. When Figueres spoke the truth for once why didnt politicians call her to account?

Reply to  David Wells
November 25, 2024 4:05 am

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the state can shield the people from the political, economic, and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the state to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the state.”

I think the price of electricity is going to be the thing the state won’t be able to hide from the people and then they will see that they have been lied to.

The Climate Alarmists promised cheaper electricity but the reality is windmills and solar deliver much more expensive electricity, to the point of being ruinous for citizens and business alike.

November 24, 2024 6:01 am

“This COP, against the wishes of the vulnerable countries, has unfortunately adopted a $300bn target (to be met in 2035), less than a quarter of what science shows is needed and barely enough to forestall a climate catastrophe. We are extremely disappointed in the outcome, which undermines any goal of having ambitious NDCs and signals a lack of goodwill by developed countries,” he (Sierra Leone Environment and Climate Change Minister Jiwoh Abdulai) said.
As an aside Sierra Leone has less than 9 million people but 27 government ministers plus a chief minister. What qualifications and experience does Minister Abdulain have? A Masters in Econometrics and Mathematical Economics from the London School of Economics (LSE) and a Bachelor’s Degree in Computer Science from the University of Texas. He is about 50 and seems to have been mainly involved in economic matters. Dare I say he knows how to spend money.

Contrast Abdulai’s statement with a the clarity of a statement made by Amin Nasser, an experienced engineer, where he sets out a sensible and realistic strategy:

we should phase in new energy sources and technologies
when they are genuinely ready,
economically competitive,
and with the right infrastructure,
adjusting all of the above as needed, as we go.

 https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/18/saudi-aramco-ceo-says-energy-transition-is-failing-give-up-fantasy-of-phasing-out-oil.html

guidvce4
November 24, 2024 7:25 am

Aha! Told ya so…all those climate cultists over the decades are actually wrong. Of course. Ya can’t play God, thinking ya can change the climate. Ain’t gonna work.

Frederick Michael
November 24, 2024 2:25 pm
CampsieFellow
November 25, 2024 2:24 am

I just love the gender diversity of the BBC reporting staff.