From NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT
By Paul Homewood
h/t Philip Bratby
Why is the Telegraph publicising this propaganda?
Humanity has missed its chance of keeping global warming below 1.5C and it will take “heroic efforts” to stay below 2C this century, the scientist leading the global effort to understand climate change has warned.
Jim Skea, chairman of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), said a failure to sufficiently curb carbon emissions had left the world on track to warm by 3C by 2100. This average masks variations between land and sea, with western Europe and the UK facing even greater warming – perhaps as much as 5C by the end of the century.
“We are potentially headed towards 3C of global warming by 2100, if we carry on with the policies we have at the moment,” said Skea.
“Obviously temperature rises over land will be higher than over the ocean. We don’t know how warm it will get [over land] but I know it may be more than the global average.”
The Met Office has tried to project the UK impacts. By 2070, it says, winters will be up to 4.5C warmer but 30pc wetter, meaning more flooding. Summer will be up to 6C warmer, with frequent droughts and surging numbers of heat-related deaths.
Skea said: “It’s very clear climate change is no longer decades in the future. It’s very obvious it’s happening now, so we need to adapt.”
Skea has benefitted very nicely from the climate scam, with his role at the Committee on Climate Change and appointment as Professor of Sustainable Energy at Imperial College London, so he was a natural for his new job as Chair of the fraudulent IPCC.
But how can anybody be taken seriously who claims with a straight face that “summer will be up to 6C warmer” by 2070.
In reality, UK summers have warmed on average by less than a degree since the 1930s. More importantly, there has been no increase in the temperature of the hottest summers since the 1970s. The tiny rise in average temperatures is mainly due to the relative absence of the unusually cold summers, which were commonplace in the 1950s and 60s particularly.
A rise of 6C would mean that Birmingham will be as hot as the French Riviera is now. This is a meteorological impossibility. The reason why the Riviera gets much hotter in summer is because the sunshine is much stronger at that latitude.
The other claims are equally absurd- for instance “more frequent droughts in summer”, when long term rainfall trends have changed little since 1840:
It is little wonder that most of the world have ignored the pronouncements and threats from the IPCC, and continue to merrily keep pumping out more emissions every year, when they see this palpable nonsense regurgitated every year.
There’s no beating Deep Heating
Better stock up on flannel shirts and woolen underwear.
> But how can anybody be taken seriously who claims with a straight face that “summer will be up to 6C warmer” by 2070.
Ah yes, the good-old “up to” scam. So beloved by con artists everywhere.
It’s like all those signs where shops have sales “Up to 70% off” – there is one ugly, shop soiled t-shirt on a rack at the back of the shop that is 70% off. Everything else is 5-10% off at most.
You are absolutely correct. If the claim was up to 1000C warmer, it would have exactly the same credibility.
Skea is an evil, virtue signalling scam artist.
He picks on the UK now we have the most idiotic and venal government in the world, enthusiasts for every far-left lie.
Skea would be a little more credible if he was lambasting China, who produces an order of magnitude CO2 than does the UK. (and are right to do so. They still have villages without electricity.)
The long-suffering, sane people have lucked out, because the cost of CO2 reduction costs $TRILLIONS per ppm.
No sane leader could advocate such an “approach”.
The best approach would no approach.
Spend your own money on your craziness, and if you do, we will tax you until you choke
LEAVES US ALONE, GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM
Should be “Up to 70% off AND MORE!”
IF this was true, that’s it’s too late…then we may as well carry on burning coal and gas. Here is the Royal Society’s take on the futility of it all…
“If emissions of greenhouse gases were stopped, would the climate return to the conditions of 200 years ago?
No. Even if emissions of greenhouse gases were to suddenly stop, Earth’s surface temperature would require thousands of years to cool and return to the level in the pre-industrial era.”
Well, it is possible that it will be 1 or more thousand years before the next glacial cycle takes a strong hold. Nothing humans can do now, and possibly still not by then, will have the least affect upon that.
Actually, , l’m willing to bet thousands that people then will be told to give up fossil fuels, air conditioning, and modern life.
With an estimated lifetime in the atmosphere, it would not take 1000 years for CO2 levels to return to mid-1800s levels.
“Even if emissions of greenhouse gases were to suddenly stop, Earth’s surface temperature would require thousands of years to cool and return to the level in the pre-industrial era.”
The only greenhouse gas is water vapor, the other gases do not have a dipole moments therefore are non-polar, therefore do not directly absorb longwave infrared radiation.
Photons are not longwave infrared radiation (but can contain LWIR).
Photons have no mass or no charge.
Photons are energy carriers and inversely proportional to its wavelength(if wavelength is longer 15µm (absorbed by CO2) then they are of a lower energy than 10µm (emitted by the earth) much shorter wavelength(not absorbed by CO2).
CO2 has no dipole moment therefore no charge(a positive charge (positive difference between positive charges and negative charges)) therefore will not experience a change in energy.
Therefore does not trap heat.
Therefore does not increase the earths temperature.
Preindustrial period includes the little ice age. This means winter and summer were below:
1317w (1/4 329w equivalent to 3C)
1408w (1/4 352w equivalent to 7.6C).
Still the case today but a lot lower in the preindustrial period.
Only someone who has never lived in Britain could possibly claim that Britain is at danger of overheating. There is a reason why Britons go on holiday abroad to warmer countries.
I see that Jim Skea might actually live in London. If this is true, he does not understand what the word overheating actually means. I think that I will send him a dictionary.
If he lives in London, his overheating comes from the UHI effect.
Even if he doesn’t live in London.
I checked in to question “the word overheating“, like who decides how much heat is the correct amount of heat, but I see it’s been done thoroughly, so thanks.
Actually no, it’s worse. There are people in Britain who claim to be able to solve the problem by reducing Britain’s emissions, and there are also people who believe them and elect them into power.
They thought the Ministry of Silly Walks was a documentary.
and that 1984 was an instruction manual.
Any beech houses on the Scottish Riviera for sale?
We don’t tend to build houses from beech wood
The Telegraph article doesn’t attribute this claim to Skea; it specifically attributes it to the UK Met Office.
As it’s source for the claim the Telegraph doesn’t cite the Met Office itself, but rather another Telegraph article.
There is not a single reference to UK summers being “up to 6C warmer by 2070” in that article. Not any official source from the UKMO itself; not any quote attributed to any of the UKMO staff members interviewed; not by the journalist herself.
No reference to back the claim, whatsoever.
So Homewood’s entire article is focused on ridiculing Skea on the basis of a claim that neither Skea, the Met Office nor the journalist cited to back the claim ever made.
Bravo, Homewood & WUWT strike again!
“The Telegraph article doesn’t attribute this claim to Skea; it specifically attributes it to the UK Met Office. “
True
From Telegraph
“The Met Office has tried to project the UK impacts. By 2070, it says, winters will be up to 4.5C warmer but 30pc wetter, meaning more flooding. Summer will be up to 6C warmer, with frequent droughts and surging numbers of heat-related deaths.”
“There is not a single reference to UK summers being “up to 6C warmer by 2070” in that article.”
Not true, see above … Summer will be up to 6C warmer,
Yes, par for the course. Why put up with these lies, nonsense and expressions of personality disorder?
Install Ublock Origin, and add the following to your custom filters:
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You’ll be glad you did!
I’m sorry to disagree with you again michel. I’m not telling you what to do or not do, but we need people on here to refute these mental cripples, even if just as a service to the young and impressionable, who might believe their crackpottery if it’s not challenged.
I agree with that. Lies and Distortions by Climate Alarmists should be called out. Otherwise, the uninformed will believe the Climate Change lies and distortions.
You’re quoting the article above, not the source used to back its claim!
Link to the source:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/10/06/too-late-save-britain-overheating-climate-chief-jim-skea/
This link is in the article.
“…the UK’s top meteorologists have formed a crack squad to save us from ourselves”
Thank god no one is listening to these climate cult activists.
(image – People on the beach in Bournemouth on July 19 2022, when temperatures hit 40C in parts of the UK – Steve Parsons/PA Wire)
So where’s the source for the claim made in the above article that the Met Office say UK summers will be 6C warmer by 2070?
Are we just going to brush over that now that we find there is no such source?
Of course we are!
You won’t change anybody’s mind with pedantic arguments like that.
We’re talking about Met office exaggeration and alarmism, the Telegraph article is a clear example of it, and a brief glance in the articles comment section confirms that no one is duped by it’s rhetoric
Brits have just endured a cold and miserable summer which followed a cold and miserable winter.
I wonder what the “crack squad” of weathermen think of the UK’s 4,950 excess winter deaths due to cold.
The ‘pedantic argument’ being that the whole focus of the story is based on a claim that has never been made.
It’s one thing misattributing a quote, but only on sites like this do you see misattribution of a quote that doesn’t even exist!
Nothing was misattributed.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/10/06/too-late-save-britain-overheating-climate-chief-jim-skea/
“Brits have just endured a cold and miserable summer which followed a cold and miserable winter.”
This summer the UK was 0.2°C below the 1991 – 2020 average. Winter was 1.2°C warmer than the 1991-2020 average. It was the 5th mildest winter in the Met Office records.
Summer was very marginally cooler than average for recent years, but still much warmer than 30 years ago.
Us skeptics must be honest if we are to be credible.
…really?
Oxford UK T-max (°C) for the months of June, July, August.
1859 1887 1900 1914 1944 1984 1994 2024
6- 20.7 21.6 19.5 20.8 19.0 20.8 20.6 20.9
7- 25.1 24.0 24.3 20.9 21.5 23.9 24.8 22.4
8- 21.8 22.2 20.4 21.8 23.2 23.6 21.1 23.0
I too can cherry-pick.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/10/06/too-late-save-britain-overheating-climate-chief-jim-skea/
Already posted above…noted
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TheFinalNail
October 7, 2024 5:59 am
Link to the source:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/10/06/too-late-save-britain-overheating-climate-chief-jim-skea/
This link is in the article.
One can predict anything one fancies for far into the future. Perhaps a mass immigration of those hot bodied Venusians will warm up everything within many meters of each of them.
Rather than change the subject, what about the false claim that Jim Skea said UK “summer will be up to 6C warmer” by 2070, when in fact no one has made such a claim?
That’s been swept right under the carpet, hasn’t it?
Refer to the link from the article:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/10/06/too-late-save-britain-overheating-climate-chief-jim-skea/
Try pulling all the threads before making bogus claims.
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Dear TFN, twould be better for you if you went TTFN
That is correct. The various Telegraph articles only reference other Telegraph articles, which is unfortunate for anyone attempting to perform a “fact checking” exercise …
… but luckily, there exist things called “Internet search engines” … maybe you’ve heard of them ?
Entering “forecast 2070 site:metoffice.gov.uk” into DuckDuckGo I obtained a list of URLs including the following :
https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/climate-change/climate-change-in-the-uk
Contained within that webpage you will find the following section (with highlights of the relevant phrases added by me) :
The switch from “conditional tense” to “declarative tense” in the last line is unfortunate, but the MET Office webpage does indeed talk about summer temperatures in the UK being “up to” 6°C warmer in 2070.
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From a subsequent post of yours in this sub-thread :
Again, it is unfortunate that nobody before me, as far as I can tell, has bothered to use those “Internet search engines” I mentioned at the start of this post to check that specific claim, which means your use of the phrase “swept right under the carpet” is actually justified … up to now.
Please check out the link above, then come back and try to assert that “no one has made such a claim” when I have just provided empirical evidence that the UK MET Office did, and still does, make that particular “up to” claim.
The relevant link was included in the article.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/10/06/too-late-save-britain-overheating-climate-chief-jim-skea/
At least that Telegraph article included the string “2070”, but the “relevant link” in that paragraph was to a third Telegraph article, not the “relevant” MET Office webpage.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/environment/2023/05/25/met-office-extreme-weather-team/
Before the Telegraph‘s HTML code overwrote that article with a “Create an account to continue reading …” overlay I determined that it didn’t contain the string “2070” at all.
To me, at least, the “relevant link” should go directly to the original source, i.e. the MET Office, and not to an endless chain of media articles about the claim(s) being made.
Well done
Yes, you can count on Mark BLR to get the facts straight.
Don’t argue with Mark BLR! 🙂
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I am neither Anthony Fauci nor Michael Mann, AKA “The Science”, I am a fallible human being.
From time to time, at unknown (and unknowable) intervals, even I will make a mistake or jump to an unsupported conclusion.
Shocking, I know, but true nevertheless.
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“Trust, but verify.” — Ronald Reagan
“In God we trust. Everyone else has to bring data.” — Apollo team motto
“Past results do not guarantee future returns.” — Investment contract boilerplate
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NB : The final quote applies just as much to Nick Stokes, TFN and MUN … and everyone else, in fact … as it does to me.
Claims should always be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.
“Drive-by down-voting without explanation” is one of the few genuine problems here at WUWT.
The first link did not as you noted.
However, the second link, that followed did.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/10/06/too-late-save-britain-overheating-climate-chief-jim-skea/
The quote is confirmed.
“…I know it maybe ..”
says another UN mercenary ‘expert ****’ ….
Anyone who lived in the UK during the summer of 1976 knows what a real heatwave is. Day and day, week after week of sunshine and high temps that has never been repeated in the UK to this day.
I remember that 1976.
Our well dried up AFTER the summer was over and we had to fill it with another source.
It felt like the kind of August heat we get in central France usually before 15th August these days, but that is normal.
We get used to it.
So what?
Meteo France is as bad or worse than the UK metO.
It’s jacked up by France-info who never stop repeating the “hottest evah” mantra.
(this year wettest evah, then reverting to hottest evah when the rain stopped!!)
Ooooh, thanks for the reminder. What a great summer. I spent a week of it communing with nature out on the very west coast of the beautiful Welsh county of Pembrokeshire, including some time spent on the awesome bird sanctuary of Skomer Island.
“The summer of ’76” is extremely well-known among any who was around to enjoy it. And enjoy it we absolutely did!
For us,it was extremely fortunate that my folks had just bought a house with a pool. They couldn’t actually afford it, but sold it for twice the price about 4 years later.
“We don’t know how warm it will get [over land] but I know it may be more than the global average.”
Sorry, that makes no sense to me as a statement…
Pure waffle that actually says nothing…
In summary, it may be more than average, less than average or average.
“A rise of 6C would mean that Birmingham will be as hot as the French Riviera is now. This is a meteorological impossibility. The reason why the Riviera gets much hotter in summer is because the sunshine is much stronger at that latitude.”
No it’s not. – aside from the staggering DK sydrome he displays – as though he knows more about it than meteorologists do !
Solar insolation at 40 deg north is stronger than at 53 deg north yes, but that is not the main reason that the Riviera is warmer.
It’s becasue it is far enough south to avoid most summer jet-stream disturbances that bring cooler arctic influenced airstreams to the British Isles, and doesn’t have it’s prevailing wind blowing off the north Atlantic, which is some 10C cooler than the Med.
The Riviera is also much closer to a major source of heat …. the Sahara – which is hot NOT because the sun is higher, but because it lies under the sub-tropical jet that has decending/warming air under it, and hence has prolonged susnhine and a subsidence inversion that limits convection.
To achieve a mean summer temp of around 22C (that of the current French Riviera) then the JS will need to move further north with the N Atlantic warming as well (which it will – as that in turn moves the JS north).
Later this century that is what models project to happen.
Yes, Yes I said “modulz”.
So get out yer abacuses and slide-rules to gainsay those projections, eh.
“Mean Seasonal Jet Stream Position overlaying the 2 m air temperature for the period 1871–2011. The dark blue line indicates the mean jet stream position and the green line ± 2 standard deviations of the 6 hourly jet latitude smoothed over 91 days using a Parzen filter, for the period shown, based on the 56 ensemble members. The cyan blue line is ± 2 standard deviations of the 6 hourly jet latitude smoothed over 91 days using a Parzen filter, for the period shown, based on the interannual variability for the period. The jet stream overlays the seasonal average 2 m air temperature”
My goodness! Do you mean to imply that “climate” is not solely controlled by heat absorbed in stagnant air by increasing GHG emissions? You think that wind might have something to do with it? “HOW DARE YOU!!” Next thing we know , you might even suggest that additional heat radiating away from a surface that is one % (3K) warmer is roughly 4 times (1.01^4) the heat added!! We can’t have any real climate science interfere with our “climate change” narrative, can we!
“My goodness! Do you mean to imply that “climate” is not solely controlled by heat absorbed in stagnant air by increasing GHG emissions?”
In the sense of “climate” being the prevailing weather systems of the geological area in question – yes.
In the sense that that climate change is the warming of the global climate system in general – No.
Banton the “retired” Met-orificer as usual!
Clearly never lived in France and is pretty clueless.
It may not occur to him, France has several climates and a lot of mountains as well as flat lands.
It’s got F-all to do with jetstreams.
France’s wind directions are mainly dictated by the atmospheric pressure differences between the frequent atlantic depressions going over the delighful windy wet island called the UK – sitting as it does right between a whole load of rather wet places called seas and oceans
AND
The not infrequent mediterranean weather events which tend to make Italy quite miserable at times.
Between the 2 lie mountains and a windy corridor called the Rhine valley linked via the Jura then the alps to the other windy corridor the RHONE.
We live in the middle which is a bit of a pig, because it can blow a harsh north wind for weeks which ends up in Marseille as the freezing dry mistral, going back south to north like today when we have a very warm 23C blasting up damp stuff from the med to meet your delightful north sea depressions.
The peripheral bits like cevennes and massif centrale add nuances to it all, but the Riveria like us is often coated in sahara dust which drives up from Spain.
Don’t need to say more.
That’s the cause of the warm climate, nothing to do with Banton;s banter or the hot sun.
If you really want to get sun stroke. proof of it is not to go to the Rivera which is quite temperate being close to the sea, but go ski in April at 2500-3000, then you get the full meaning of SUN.
Fact is the UK is mostly cool and wet cos of masses of clouds and no mountains that break clear of the cover.
Germany covered in fog for lots of winter and freezing cold neither.
Go up to the top of Schwarzwald Totder Mann to break out of it in February and realise it’s altitude has everything to do with temperature sun intensity and pressure!
Banton the “retired” Met-orificer as usual!
Clearly never lived in France and is pretty clueless.
I disagree with him on issues as do others, but at least he engages civilly and generally brings information that can be discussed or disagreed with, so not sure the personal attacks are warranted (thefinalnail or myuselessname, etc. on the other hand…)
Yes, the personal attacks and attempts at sarcasm are unjustified, unproductive and are basically a form of pollution of public space.
So is your bleating !!
“I disagree with him on issues as do others, but at least he engages civilly”
Yes, he does. It’s appreciated.
“Clearly never lived in France and is pretty clueless.”
Of course I am.!!!
I do know that in this rabbit-hole of “sceptics” anyone with any advanced knowledge of the subject is considered “clueless”.
That is the bizarre way the logic of the presiding ideology views things.
“It may not occur to him, France has several climates and a lot of mountains as well as flat lands.
It’s got F-all to do with jetstreams.”
It’s got everything to do with the Polar jet-stream in the way that I outlined.
We are comparing the French Riviera with the UK for a start.
And not any other part of France.
“France’s wind directions are mainly dictated by the atmospheric pressure differences between the frequent atlantic depressions going over the delighful windy wet island called the UK – sitting as it does right between a whole load of rather wet places called seas and oceans”
Err, that is exactly what the polar jet stream dictates …… but with minor affect along the French Riviera.
Look at the ave position of it in the summer (the season I am talking about) in the graphic I posted.
“The not infrequent mediterranean weather events which tend to make Italy quite miserable at times.”
Again I am not talking of Italy …. you refer to the formation of the Genoa Low which comes as a consequence of a trough (colder air) extension south. The Mistral forming by the northerly being funneled between the Massive Central and the Alps as a result.
An infrequent event in summer and it does not affect the averages …. as is obvious.
“Between the 2 lie mountains and a windy corridor called the Rhine valley linked via the Jura then the alps to the other windy corridor the RHONE.”
Yes I know (try to remember that I am indeed a retired professional meteorologist) – and covered above.
“We live in the middle which is a bit of a pig, because it can blow a harsh north wind for weeks which ends up in Marseille as the freezing dry mistral, going back south to north like today when we have a very warm 23C blasting up damp stuff from the med to meet your delightful north sea depressions.”
You are not talking of the summer (freezing mistral). So it is the contrast you notice. In summer it is a rare event. And certainly not freezing cold (wind chill) is not measured by a thermometer, and therefore will not be seen on temperature averages.
“The peripheral bits like cevennes and massi centrale add nuances to it all, but the Riveria like us is often coated in sahara dust which drives up from Spain.
Hence why one reason why it is warm – as I in my op said – influence from the Sahara.
BTW: that dust often makes it to the UK in a long southerly.
“Don’t need to say more.
That’s the cause of the warm climate, nothing to do with Banton;s banter or the hot sun.
If you really want to get sun stroke. proof of it is not to go to the Rivera which is quite temperate being close to the sea, but go ski in April at 2500-3000, then you get the full meaning of SUN.”
No you shouldn’t say more – You seem to be a tad muddled and certainly of a superior mind-set.
Indeed it’s very much to do with the “climate” – as I outlined in my op. And that is because it is far enough south to to avoid most summer excursions of the polar JS.
The hot sun was Homewoods bollocks and not mine.
“If you really want to get sun stroke. proof of it is not to go to the Rivera which is quite temperate being close to the sea, but go ski in April at 2500-3000, then you get the full meaning of SUN.”
Any coastal location is “temperate” close to the sea. It’s called sea-breezes. Point is those breezes are a tad warmer than those affecting the UK.
I have often skied in French ski resorts – and have done since 1979.
What’s that got to do with the climate of southern France?
“Fact is the UK is mostly cool and wet cos of masses of clouds and no mountains that break clear of the cover.
No, the fact is that you know nothing about meteorology and are spouting the sympistic bollocks of a layman afflicted by Dunning-Kruger syndrome – who thinks he knows it all and more than someone who worked as a professional meteorologist.
It affects many denizens here.
The climate of the UK is due to its relatively high latitude and being in the path of the polar jet stream a lot of the time.
Plus it has it’s prevailing wind from off the north Atlantic bringing moisture.
Try getting the cart before the horse – that comes before any lack of mountains to break “masses of cloud”.
“Go up to the top of Schwarzwald Totder Mann to break out of it in February and realise it’s altitude has everything to do with temperature sun intensity and pressure!”
FFS: what has that to do with anything related to why the French riviera is warmer than the UK?
Your hypothesis fails, we live right under the jet stream on Vancouver Island, we probably have the most moderate climate in Canada. If the jet stream was creating freezing cold drafts we would be the first to know.
The jet streams undulate like snakes.
The jet streams keep cold weather confined to the northern parts of the northern hemisphere, like a dam holdig back the water, but if the dam changes it shape, and starts flowing south of your location, then this allows the cold weather to come down into your area.
Yes, Anthony is right about the drivers of UK weather. People should stop venting about this and just accept that it is the way he describes it.
I don’t agree with him that rising human CO2 emissions will produce dangerous global warming. I don’t expect to see Birmingham temps go up by 6 degrees.
And whether or not these things happen, I am certain that the UK will not succeed in getting to net zero in electricity generation, and that even if they did, it would not affect UK or global temperatures one iota.
But he’s right about the drivers of UK weather, if not about what they are going to produce in the longer term, just accept it.
I’ve always enjoyed spring. New leaves, flowers, and more skin showing on the ladies, what’s not to like? I see global warming as an extension of those wonders. 6 degrees means earlier skin and more of it!
Warmer winters in England in the past 50 years
A catastrophe?
Warmer winters in England in the next 50 years
Even worse?.
It seems obvious that a substantial portion of the UK government, with its monarch, titled nobility, and press, are determined to return the UK, on its knees, to the EU. Industry, banking, and a great deal of the wealth of the country has already been transferred.
Global temperature,sea surface temperature are modeled data.
Suns input is 7.6C in January and 3°C in July, while earth is 4C less than 7.6°C in January due to expansion of land snow and ice, with very little ice sheet melt in southern hemisphere’s Antarctic.
Now modeled data has 13°C in January and 17°C in July.
These values has northern hemisphere 9°C in January and 17°C in southern hemisphere, 22.5°C (NH) and 11°C(SH) in southern hemispheres winter.
These temperatures are mid-latitude averages that do not include tropics, arctic or antarctic.
For example southern hemisphere average surface temperature 10°S-90°S 0-360°E reach -4.15°C (Sept 16th 2024) when all areas are included and areas where temperatures are observed are proportionally spaced out.
In thermal energy that adds 200 watts to the global heating that isn’t there.
Global heating and cooling is 90w.
Jan – 1407-90 (3°C)
July – 1317+90 (7.6°C)
Total kinetic energy is 200 watts but isn’t infrared radiation.
Example: Average is 340w and total absorbed solar radiation is 880 watts (2*440)(mostly tropics) and total outgoing is 680w.
If the average was increased by 12.3w (352.3, 7.75°C), the outgoing would increase by 100w (780w) and absorbed would descrease to 780w.
Equivalent to not including south of 85 in Antarctic at average temperature -46.5°C.
So the issue with the IPCC is not all of earth is included when calculating the average surface temperature and (ASR(780w)+OLR(780w))/4 isn’t correct either, therefore you end up with a artificially high average (15C) not 5.3C 340w(same as suns input) or 8C 352.3w, increase to average).
Yes, those 75°F summers are brutal. God help them.
Here in east Texas, they are in our prayers.
Isn’t that the truth! 🙂
Oh, well. You failed. Sounds like we don’t need a climate megabureaucracy filled with 6-figure parrots anymore.
“Why is the Telegraph publicising this propaganda?“
Because it suits their agenda. If they can claim it’s too late to do anything, then why do anything.
And I don’t think they are “publicising”, as much as creating the propaganda.
This much is true, everything else is propaganda.
“It’s too late to save Britain from overheating, says UN climate chief Prof Jim Skea”
So is there a real threat that Britain may feel a little more like Australia? The horrors…
This is a misconception. The reason the Riviera is warmer is because it is adjacent to a latitudinally constrained body of water that is reaching the limiting temperature of 30C.Water in the English Channel does not get to 20C.
On summer solstice, the average sunlight at 50N is 482W/m^2 compared with 480W/m^2 for 35N.
The danger in Britain always comes from damp and cold. Any heat relief there would be welcome.
Well of course it’s too late. For 40 years they have been telling us we have only 10 years to act or it will be too late. 30 of those deadlines have passed, and we emit more CO2 than ever Thus it’s pointless to keep fighting global warming because it’s too late 30 times (and counting) to save the planet.
Oh, good grief. if Britain were 6 degrees warmer, it would be habitual. the Brits are such babies, they think any temperature over 80 degrees F is intolerable.
Wear lighter clothing. Drink iced beverages. Chill your beer.
A pertinent question is: how much would the planet warm with no anthropogenic CO2? Considering that we’re coming out of the Little Ice Age, the various orbital cycles, etc.
Does that amount to signaling for the new administration that they can shift spending to other pet causes and away from the climate crusades?
So, at this point, we should soon see Britain collapse into a pile of ash? I’m willing to wait and see. It’s hilarious when some dimwit gives up the game and says “we’re already past the tipping point”. Let me know when the Irish are getting sunburnt in December, woyld you?