Essay by Eric Worrall
First published JoNova – Nobody wants to move until they see whether the USA will pay for their green charade?
Trump stalks global climate talks as COP29 draws near
BY NICK PERRY
Sep 16, 2024PARIS –
The prospect of Donald Trump returning as president is hanging over crucial U.N.-sponsored climate negotiations, with countries “holding back” their positions until they know who sits in the White House.
Veteran observers of climate diplomacy say uncertainty over the election outcome is stalking this November’s COP29 summit, which starts just six days after voters decide between Trump and Kamala Harris.
The election lands awkwardly as governments try to build global consensus in coming months not just around climate but stronger protections for the environment and a treaty to address plastic pollution.
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Ali Mohamed, chair of the African Group of Negotiators, accused developed countries of navel gazing and displaying “a lack of seriousness” at the bargaining table.
“The climate change situation really doesn’t care about who is at the helm of the U.S., whether it is a Republican or a Democrat,” he told reporters.
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Read more: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/environment/2024/09/16/climate-change/trump-global-climate-talks-cop29/
This is funny on so many levels.
For starters, could fake claims that renewables are cheap possibly be any deader? Renewables are hideously expensive – otherwise why would nations which have already gone big on renewables be holding back?
And then there is the funny they are still blaming Trump – even though he hasn’t been in office since the start of this decade.
Only true believers still think COP conferences have anything to do with the environment. COP28 was held in a petro-state, where the COP28 conference president allegedly spent much of his time trying to ink natural gas sales.
COP29 will be held in Azerbaijan, even more of a petro-state than the UAE. Azerbaijan is a nation which for over a century has been renowned as a major provider of oil and gas. I wonder what their environmental focus will be?
The environmental movement is dead, except in a few places which persist in clinging to the faith, their power is broken. The world will never genuinely switch to green energy. World leaders barely even bother to hide their contempt for the global environmental movement anymore – why else mock greens by holding big environmental conferences in petro-states?
The only question is, how will the petro-state organisers of the COP climate conferences top this supreme mockery of environmental causes? Will the next climate conference be held in the middle of a Texas oil field? On an ocean oil rig? It’s going to be a challenge to pick a location even more hilarious than Azerbaijan.
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Always with palms held out…
Off topic….
“”Sky News reports that Guardian Media Group is in talks to sell The Observer to ‘slow news’ outlet Tortoise Media. GMG chief executive Anna Bateson says this is “an exciting strategic opportunity.” An opportunity to offload….
https://order-order.com/2024/09/17/observer-set-to-be-sold-to-slow-news-low-reader-no-profit-publisher/
Adios The Sunday Guardian
This is rather like a party where Aunt Felicia has determined beliefs about something, and no one brings it up so as to not offend the old lady.
Could you tell the UK Labour party, in particular Millivolt, that the green movement is dead. As they have hit the accelerator pedal on Nut Zero since July
He be knows best, he won’t listen to anyone…
Perhaps we can persuade him to hit the accelerator on a Tesla Semi:
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/tesla-semi-fire-california-took-50000-gallons-water-extinguish-rcna171072
Millivolt is clever but wouldn’t Milliamp be better because of the a in his legal name?
Millipede brain.
“The prospect of Donald Trump returning as president is hanging over crucial U.N.-sponsored climate negotiations, with countries “holding back” their positions until they know who sits in the White House.”
If this is really all about science- it should make no difference who sits in the white house. Just proving it’s all about politics.
It’s about fleecing the deepest pocket.
IIRC, the rich counties promised to give COP58 57 billion dollars to be given to the poor countries via various programs.
The UNFCCC gets most of its budget from donations from all the countries. Even the poor countries donate small amounts of funds
which they can ill afford to do so.
Use Google and search for: UNFCCC budget. There is a table that lists the donations from the countries. The financial tables for the budget are complex, and I couldn’t quite figure out the total amount, but it is many millions of dollars.
If Trump is elected for president, he could end the donation not only to the UNFCCC, but also to COP59 and especially the IPCC.
OH! We agree more needs to be done…but first we need FUNDING! (Holds out hand, palm up) $$$ Money grubbing greenies.
Please sir, may I have some more?
this true- -to Trump’s great credit- –
If the morons had a clue, they would realize that Xi has far more influence on CO2 emissions than Trump. But then, they are morons.
I don’t think 29 will be as much fun as 28. No sea, no beaches, I don’t suppose the booze will be as nice and the ladies of easy virtue much less pretty. Oh and take a look at the Keeling curve and remark that 28 COPs have had no effect on CO2 whatever. Deluded, ignorant, selfish, excitable, liars.
“I don’t suppose the booze will be as nice”
Azerbaijan actually has a strong wine making history.
Exploring the rich tradition of winemaking in Azerbaijan | Euronews
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“ladies of easy virtue much less pretty”
Really 😉
Meryem Uzerli: Top 10 Most Beautiful Azeri/Azerbaijan/Azerbaijani/Baku Women (meryemuzerlihurremsultan.blogspot.com)
Wow!
They could send that out in the conference brief so there would be no illusion what COPs are about.
yup
Copulation of Party ers .
😉
Can’t see the significance of 10 photos of girls with hairy black armpits. Geoff S
I can’t see any hairy armpits…
Maybe that is what you were hoping for 😉
With experience, my projection is that inquisitive explorers will find precisely that.
In a project in the middle east, we were impressed by the beauty of the local ladies and employed some. We were required to have a keeper, an army Colonel, who assembled us to say “Yesterday, we executed 6 Korean workers who were interested in our women”. No more was said. It worked to cause an early halt to the usual exploratory approach, at about the armpits.
Geoff S
What is the connection between Climate Change (TM) and “a treaty to address plastic pollution”
In 5000 years, all plastic will all be under a mile of ice making cleanup very difficult. So WE need to clean it up now.
The Green Blob has always deliberately confused the public by confounding ‘climate change’ and ‘pollution’. They even present CO2 rise as ‘carbon pollution’ so people will think of soot and ash. I have read numerous news articles about ‘the climate crisis’ which will fold in comments about plastic in the ocean and trash mounds, etc.
Condoms are pollution ???
Its either that or use lambs intestines.
On the other hand, the chemical formula for estrogen is C18H24O2, almost the same as gasoline
How are they going to get all these third world nations to abide by such a treaty? They’re the ones mostly responsible, after all.
A treaty to prevent plastic pollution?
Let’s rename it the IPPP and send money. Sounds like a plan to me.
Then women can continue to put sandwiches in plastic bags daily for their kids without guilt.
The environmental movement is dead, except . . .
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I certainly hope not. Control of real pollution will continue to be a valid issue.
Reminds me of a line from the outdoor humorist, Pat McManus, “When I was a kid, we didn’t have “pollution”. We called it “dumping stuff in the creek”.
(He was not in favor of that.)
We need reasonable laws to stop real pollution.
We don’t need conservation or environmentalism to be warped into a hockey stick shaped lever to power and money.
Gunga,
We need society to admit they were brainwashed by the propagandized concept of “environment protection” when history shows the matter of “income protection” is far more important and satisfying.
Geoff S
I always distinguish between environmentalism and conservationism. The latter is the sincere desire to be cleaner and more efficient. The former is a quasi-religious cult for the promotion of political dominance and rent-seeking at taxpayer expense.
Concur.
I am a conservationist from an early age.
The environmental movement is purely activists seeking thrills.
I do think we have a plastic pollution problem based on ocean floor photos viewed and detritus washed up on beaches. A shame, too. The process of converting plastic to oil is not all that complex.
But that was a policy that actually would have reduced emissions.
Buy Qatari gas and don’t burn coal.
And that’s the reason the Greens opposed it.
If emissions were reduced, and the CO2 levels kept rising like it’s still 2020, then the AGW industry would be dead in the water.
“The environmental movement is dead”, but the Administrative State is currently alive and well. Unless and until the Administrative State/Oligarchy is stopped and backed out of our hair, we’ll continue to have fights against our Constitutionally protected rights. We are (used to be?) a Constitutional Republic if we can keep it. Doubt any of this? Look out the window at all the lawlessness…
Yea Trump. Go MAGA, and Drill Baby Drill.
I don’t see that lawlessness out my window now.
(But, then again, the citizens of Springfield Ohio didn’t used to see it either.)
The Constitution was suspended when the decision was made to weaponize the FBI and have them frame Trump about Russian collusion, frame Trump’s Jan6 supporters, raid Trump’s home and reduce security for Trump’s rallies. The vote counting in November, (probably take all month), will decide if the suspension should be extended.
It’s not unusual in politics to blame a “slow start” the first year on the previous administration. But, after 3 and a half years of failure in the US, the fault lies squarely on the Democrat Party.
Yet they still blame Trump for their their own policy failures even to the point of forecasting future failures if their failed policies are not allowed to continue.
Just look at the Maldives; sinking fast (sic).
The joke has been done to death.
Look, the international communism / socialism movements glommed on to environmentalism when the leftist dogma collapsed.
“COP29 summit, which starts just six days after voters decide between Trump and Kamala Harris”
or
COP29 summit, which starts just six days after vote counting decides between Trump and Kamala Harris?
Story tip
Never mind. David Lammy is already working on Nature COP, apparently getting from Cali, Colombia to Kew Gardens in a couple of hours.
https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/foreign-secretarys-foreign-policy-speech-on-the-climate-crisis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY-se13snd0
The FCDO redacted the “political” element of his speech. You can play climate and net zero bingo with it.
Rapidly followed by gormless Ed, threatening to carpet the country in wind and solar farms.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13860029/Ed-Miliband-vows-NIMBYs-flood-Britain-wind-turbines-solar-farms-Energy-Secretary-insists-achieving-Net-Zero-matter-national-security.html
PresidentTrump has a mighty big presence without actually being there.
We are not in a climate crisis, CO2 is not the control knob for our climate, we are not going to reach a tipping point and suffer irreversible global warming. CAGW and Net Zero have nothing to do with climate, science or the temperature. They are purely political vehicles to gain power and control. They need to be exposed for the criminals that they are.
From the home page of my blog:
“The leftists gain power by keeping people alarmed, and demanding to be led to safety, by scaring them with a series of imaginary boogeymen. Including CO2, Big Oil, Donald Trump, Russians and rural white Americans”.
Recently, some leftists have been blaming Trump for two attempted assassinations … of Trump.
My two general rules of thumb about leftists:
(1) Leftists ruin everything they touch
(2) Leftists lie or deceive about every subject
There are a few exceptions to (2), but (1) seems to apply to everything.
White House press secretary Karine Jeane-Pierre stated that political violence was unacceptable and needed to stop and that inflammatory campaign rhetoric needed to be cooled, but Trump was a threat.
The Poodle is clueless, and irony and hypocrisy are not in her dictionary.
Story Tip….
Surely this number can’t be correct, even if worldwide… Or is it !!!
140,000 electric Mini Coopers recalled over major fire risk | NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW THAT (wordpress.com)
Seems to be real as 1400 were in Australia alone.
Don’t forget all the third world Kleptocrats who are keeping it alive by supercharging western white guilt.
Greens Blame President Trump for COP29 Lack of Progress
Another important reason for serious grownups to vote for Trump. Gretaheads who like vibey kneesups with meaningless word salads would likely prefer gigglepot you’d presume. The tailored swifty of political showbiz for them and birds of a feather.
The true, number one reason to vote for Trump is he can’t be bought.
Don’t you know Azerbaijan is leading the way to Net Zero?
After all it is only home to one of the world’s largest gas fields, Shah Deniz, in the Caspian Sea and is expected to extract around 411 billion cubic metres (bcm) of gas in the next 10 years.
It’s also doing well in moving away from fossil fuels which only provide just under half of its GDP, over half of all Government revenue and more than 90% of the country’s export earnings.
Your sarcasm is noted.
However, your absolute claims, while possible and perhaps even highly probable and not as certain as your phraseology infers.
Let’s get up to date on the new names for COP and Net Zero. Leftists do not like COPs so that name has been changed to:
Climate
Liars
Annual
Party
or
CLAP
Their annual CLAP report will be the
CLAPTRAP report
Net Zero has been changed to:
Carbon
Reduction
Atmospheric
Program
or
CRAP
So all of them are getting the clap?
[humor is a difficult concept]
GREEN SELF-ABUSE
COP 1 through 28 did not reduce emissions, why should 29 be any different?