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China’s top energy officials dampened hopes that the country’s carbon emissions have already peaked Thursday following July reports the country would stop increasing emissions after this year, according to Bloomberg.
China’s carbon emissions were largely reported in July to be on track to decline or plateau annually this year following data suggesting a reduction in coal usage and an increase in green energy output. However, Song Wen, the head of law and institutional reform at China’s National Energy Administration, downplayed the rumors Thursday, adding that even meeting China’s original carbon emissions target of peaking by 2030 will require “great efforts,” Bloomberg reported.
“We should not forget that China is still a developing country, pursuing modernization for a huge population,” Wen told Bloomberg at a press briefing Thursday. “Great efforts are still needed to achieve the goals of peak carbon and carbon neutrality.”
Wen’s comments come the week before an expected meeting between President Joe Biden’s top climate aide John Podesta and China’s top energy official Liu Zhenmin to discuss environmental collaboration efforts and reducing greenhouse gas emissions beyond just carbon dioxide, such as methane and nitrogen oxide. Both methane and nitrogen oxide are associated with the burning of coal. (RELATED: Biden Admin Official Spurring Green Airplane Initiative Owns An Oil Well)
China accounted for two-thirds of the world’s new coal plants in 2023 after approving an average of two plants per week the year prior, according to The New York Times and a study from the Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air. The country was responsible for roughly half of global coal production and consumption as of February 2023.
“When it comes to coal, given that China is such an overwhelming part, whatever happens there really defines the global trend,” Li Shuo, the director of China Climate Hub at the Asia Society Policy Institute, told NYT in April.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
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The chances that China’s carbon dioxide emissions have already peaked are precisely zero. China is still developing and much more energy will be used in the future. Hoping that China’s emissions have peaked is just another example of the delusional world which climate alarmists inhabit.
Exactly right for the foreseeable future.
In 2050 they’ll be pushing the same story.
LOL.
They are openly building two coal fired power plants a week, and they’re telling us they’re reducing CO2 emissions?
You haven’t been lied to by China, you have been lied to by the green blob and leftist media telling us all China is going green, with the same photographs of the same renewable sites circulating for years.
You have been lied to by western government propaganda persuading you that the Chinese are virtuous, and distracting you with their fantasies of falling CO2 emissions whilst the Chinese just get on with business.
The Chinese don’t need to say anything, our green blob and western media do it all for them.
COP events are just a giant propaganda exercise with tens of thousands of green blobbers and leftist western media concocting ‘clever’ stories between them to persuade the west to deindustrialise itself because they hate Capitalism whilst worshipping communism.
The Chinese and Russians have painful, living memories of communism, and never want to return to starvation and deprivation. Do you think these people are stupid? They are watching the west allowing censorship of speech, societies split over LGBTQ+, immigration and racial issues, with their jaws hitting the floor.
Sorry folks, the Chinese are not the problem. We are.
China will do whatever it wants to do. It can rely on the Western media to spin it favourably, as most have no doubt noticed.
O/T We thought back in the day that Michael Foot (Labour, 1983) wrote the longest suicide note in history. But no, that is yet to come. This time the suicide note will have full legislative backing. But…. it’s the same old, same old Cricket approach on a Rugby pitch. Stiff upper lip, chaps.
“”UK may unveil tougher emissions targets at Cop29 climate summit
It is hoped the plan will help kickstart global ambitions on cutting emissions and encourage other countries to follow suit.””
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/aug/29/uk-emissions-targets-cop29-climate-summit-labour
Doublethink
While doom and gloom spring eternal in la la alarmist land, simultaneously, hope that “the plan will help kickstart global ambitions on cutting emissions and encourage other countries to follow suit” also springs eternal. Luckily: “”The Cop29 summit will take place from 11 November, days after the US election, making it difficult for the US administration to plan its impact at the negotiations.””
The question there is: will Kamala have to take Walz on every interview to hold her hand?
Reasons to be doubleplusuncheerful.
“”A spokesperson for the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero said: “The energy secretary will be front and centre of climate negotiations and will personally be leading Cop29 negotiations for the UK””
We’re stuffed. The US still has a choice to make.
If Trump wins, it will be a whole different story at COP29.
They can discuss the ramifications of Trump pulling the United States out of the Paris Climate Agreement again.
He really can do anything and people still vote for him?
His VP pick is really helpful
Really, really helpful.
Maybe that’s why he wants to golf all day.
Was a funny week 😀
So what is maga doing to vance in case they lose?
Scraping the bottom of the barrel for sensationalised minor events aren’t you?
I thought the US cares so much about their Veterans?
Arlington is a Cemetery dummy, the corpses don’t care.
Mountain out a molehill created by leftists desperate to discredit Trump after all the court cases only succeeded in making him more popular.
Grasping at straws. It’s pathetic.
Worse than a mountain out of a molehill. They fabricated a dispute that didn’t happen in order to avoid explaining why Biden and Harris didn’t show up to honor the thirteen killed by the reckless departure from Afghanistan ordered by Biden and Harris—defying the advice of their military advisors—and Trump did. Funny how leftists are big on signaling their supposed virtue for the cause of the week and telling us how compassionate they are while conservatives are in fact virtuous and compassionate and actually volunteer and serve.
“Worse than a mountain out of a molehill. They fabricated a dispute that didn’t happen in order to avoid explaining why Biden and Harris didn’t show up to honor the thirteen killed by the reckless departure from Afghanistan ordered by Biden and Harris”
Yes, the Democrats saw how bad Trump’s honoring of the troops made Biden and Kamala look, so they created this false reality of a controversy at the cemetary to try to make Trump look bad instead of good. This is standard procedure for Democrat liars.
The Trump organization says they have everything on video and a confrontation did not take place and they can prove it. But that doesn’t matter to deranged Democrats looking for anything they can find to smear Trump, and if they can’t find anything, then they just make it up, like they are doing here.
You can’t believe a thing the Democrats say. They have a political agenda and the truth is not part of it.
Exactly.
If the Kamala (and her Lap Dog Walz) interview on CNN is any indication, following the Sept 10 debate we’ll likely have not only Trump 47 but Vance 48
I think Vance is a shoo in for 2028. Democrats have run out of political dynasties, even Kennedy’s kicked them into touch. The last of the big Democrat beast families. There couldn’t be a bigger rejection of the party.
Democrat solution? Go DEI hire Harris, and Walz Disney, because it’s the best they can think of.
My God! If Trump can’t win against that pair America needs to pack up and go home.
He already said he’ll flee to venezuela.
DEI hire – compared to Trump she earned her place.
She has earned nothing. Zero votes on 2020. Zero!
She would be a real Nowhere Ma’am sitting in a dead end land , making all her lame duck plans for nobody…
If the Democrat machine hadn’t sidestepped the constitutional election process and installed her as the candidate via a Party Coup
Well, without his inherited wealth trump wouldn’t even be able to sell his tacky shoes.
I’m little concerned with Trumps state of wealth or manner of dress and far more impressed by the size of his patriotism and adherence to his principles.
Flip-Flop Kamala appears to have neither patriotism nor firm stance on any principles
Can you spell Ad Hominem? I’ve made it easy for you!
Inherited wealth that he massively expanded with sharp instincts, excellent business acumen, and leadership that inspires admiration and loyalty from his employees and staff and almost everyone he interacts with except dedicated, myopic leftists, like the media, Democrats, and people like you.
And Trump’s wealth means he can’t be bought, the way Joe Biden has been bought by our enemies.
The Joe Biden Family Enterprise receives millions of dollars from the communist Chinese government. What do the Chicoms get for their money?
Trump takes billions of dollars away from the communist Chinese government and puts it in the U.S. Treasury.
The contrast couldn’t be more stark.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/
Most of his former administration staff has either quit or endorsed Kamala. The gop has now only the hardcore cultists holding the line, while former high ranking members work actively against his re-election.
The guy bankrupted casinos, hotels, an airline, a university…
How, beside all his lockeroom talk, insulting and rambling does somebody like him inspires admiration. He makes fun of veterans, disabled people and got laughed out of the UN. The image of the US around the world tanked during his presidency. He endorses dictators and surrounds himself with like-minded criminals. He is building the swamp, not draining it.
Your jealousy is peeking out.
Yea, like all the celebrities said they would leave the US when Trump was elected, but they didn’t of course.
Harris has never won more than a goldfish at the country fair, far less anything that qualifies her as a presidential candidate.
Hunter Biden will be out of prison by then…
Hunter will likely be pardoned by Daddy by then
I don’t think Trump will be predisposed to letting him lead a peaceful and secure life if Daddy does pardon him.
He’s not going to be considered much of a candidate for even a job in McDonalds.
God help him if Trump wins and sets the attack dogs on him, he’ll wish he was still locked up.
Speaking of working at McDonalds: Kamala Harris claims she worked at a McDonalds when she was young, but there is no evidence Kamala ever actually worked for McDonalds. Reportedly, McDonalds doesn’t have any records of her working for them, and reporters so far, have been unable to locate anyone who worked with her at a McDonalds.
My, my, my.
“My God! If Trump can’t win against that pair America needs to pack up and go home.”
That’s true. This ought to be the easiest election for a Republican to win. The Democrats have screwed up everything they have touched.
The unknown factor is how influential is the lying Leftwing Media? So far, they have managed to convince millions of people that it is a good idea to elect Democrats, even though the Democrats are destroying the nation. But, of course, those who listen to the lying Leftwing Media don’t know that because the lying Leftwing Media hides bad news.
But, the lying Leftwing Media can’t hide the price of groceries and gasoline.
Anyone who would vote for a Democrat is detached from reality. They would be voting against their own interests in reality, while thinking they were doing just the opposite, because the lying Leftwing Media told them so.
The kind of mindless comment we expect from a leftist troll who doesn’t know anything.
Trump is campaigning virtually every day along with Vance.Trump and Vance are sitting for interviews and press conferences almost daily.No time for golf. Have you seen him play golf lately? Except for an excellent round with PGA and U.S. Open champion Bryson De Chambeau which you can watch on YouTube to get to know Trump the person instead of Trump the Demon King caricature painted by mindless leftists and the media (but I repeat myself), he’s been extremely busy campaigning.Harris is avoiding extemperaneous speaking, like press conferences and interviews.In over a month, Harris had one softball interview with Walz to hold her hand while Trump amd Vance had dozens.Harris is practicing like crazy for one debate while trying to change the agreed rules because she’s terrible at unscripted oratory. There’s a reason she never got a single vote in 2020 and dropped out before the first primary.I suspect Harris has severe anxiety in extemperaneous interviews. She sounds nervous a lot and often resorts to ill-timed cackling. The indecipherable word salads she frequently tosses are probably a symptom of that nervousness.
The irony of holding COP 29 in Azerbaijan is palpable. The country is home to one of the world’s largest gas fields, Shah Deniz, in the Caspian Sea and is expected to extract 411 billion cubic metres (bcm) in the next 10 years.
Meanwhile fossil fuels provide just under half of the country’s GDP, over half of government revenues and more than 90% of the country’s export earnings.
I think there were some hints being dropped by holding COP 28 in Dubai.
The Chinese regime lies about everything. Even fossil fuels. Take COVID as your prototype. They invented it and have lied about it since then.
Don’t call the the second largest economy in the world “developing”. They passed that stage long ago. Their economic model is based on coal fired power plants and slave labor. The US needs to end its dependence on China for its own economy and defense. STAT.
Yes, it’s time to get independent of Bad Actors like the Chicoms.
They do lie all the time, similar to the Democrats, and they are not a developing nation now.
The only hope for a good future is to elect Republicans in the next election. The Democrats will continue to take us down this “road to ruin” if they remain in power. And there may not be a way back if we continue the Democrat dictatorship. The American Dream will be over for all but the Elite Democrats.
Laughably, Wuhan was a US funded laboratory “EcoHealth received $3.7m from the NIH, $600,000 of which was given to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.” (BBC)
Building two coal fired power stations a week is hardly lying about fossil fuels, what they are doing is out in the open. The people lying to you about everything is the Biden regime, the green regime and the MSM.
What slave labour do they exploit? We had sensationalised shots of Uyghur Muslims, who are the Chinese equivalent of ISIS, splashed across the leftist western MSM.
The difference from the west is when the Chinese catch terrorists they don’t lock them up in concrete compounds like Abu Ghraib and torture them, they put them to work to pay for their keep.
No point blaming everyone else for western screw ups, it’s our fault and until we recognise it, we can’t fix it. The Chinese didn’t force western businesses to locate manufacturing there, they invited us and we jumped at the chance of cheap labour and land.
“Laughably, Wuhan was a US funded laboratory . . .”
Your point, although well-intentioned, misses the mark.
It is most likely true that China’s WIV received $600,000 USD from EcoHealth (Peter Daszak, a friend of NIAID and NIH), but that is nowhere near the amount of money invested in that laboratory over the years leading up to the release of the SARS-CoV-2 virus from that lab in 2019.
The WIV was set-up and funded primarily by the PRC/CCP, with strong evidence supporting that its not-so-hidden agenda was developing viruses for biowarfare.
You think $600,000 is all they invested?
That’s all that’s known about, for now.
The sooner you face up to the US being knee deep in covid the sooner things get sorted out and the people who caused it get jailed.
Not that the US is alone in the rampage of violence across the world since 1945, our UK government and our own deep state are principle in this shitshow as well.
None of them are guilt free. These Globalist animals have sacrificed untold numbers of military lives and stripped our nations of our wealth.
Go to any of the so called developing nations and you’ll find better infrastructure, better services and happier, more civilised people, because while we’ve been getting our warriors back in wheelchairs and body bags, they have been building.
And we can’t say we weren’t warned. Eisenhower spelled it out, and we all ignored him.
So when are you leaving the UK for a “better” nation, excluding of course the USA?
China and India will continue to develop. India in particular will continue and increase its use of dispatchable cheap energy production to meet increasing demand = coal.
Coal is King. Oil is Queen. The ruling and definitive monarchy of energy production continues to reign. There will be no overthrow of this triumphant union.
China Shuts Down Speculation That It Has Reached Peak Emissions
China has yet to see its carbon dioxide emissions peak as it is a developing nation and has a massive population.
The message comes from the country’s National Energy Administration in response to speculation that China had achieved peak emissions before its own deadline.
In truth no nation or society stops developing. Only now, our leaders want to reverse that; to de-develop.
We Are Devo!
Well, I guess we won’t be troubled by Climate Alarmists claiming China is phasing out their coal-fired powerplants in favor of windmills and solar.
There goes the climate alarmist talking point. So sad, too bad. Reality intrudes.
Don’t be silly. Coal only provided 70% of China’s electricity in 2023 compared to wind’s 9% so of course they want to transition away from it 🙂
Per Reuters
China has approved 218 GW of new coal power in just two years, enough to supply electricity to the whole of Brazil.
China has pledged to start cutting coal consumption over the 2025-2030 period, but developers are building as much new capacity as they can before 2025
Per Carbon Brief
China accounted for 95% of the world’s new coal power construction activity in 2023, according to the latest annual report from Global Energy Monitor (GEM).
Construction began on 70 gigawatts (GW) of new capacity in China, up four-fold since 2019, says GEM’s annual report on the global coal power industry.
This compares with less than 4GW of new coal power construction starting in the rest of the world – the lowest since 2014
What’s the problem? C02 is harmless.
Deranged human thinking is the real problem.
Whenever I read something about the China energy situation I’m reminded about
my early day’s (mid 90’s) on the web and the time spent on newsgroups reading. My
primary interest was in metalworking/machining. Rec.Crafts.Metalworking was the place
for me.. There were some very high level manufacturing guys who would hold court on some things that were actively on going at the time. Deja News used to allow access to these conservations but since Google bought that out it’s been shoved down the memory hole. One of the things that
was happening during the Clinton’s term was the massive movement of entire factories to China.
The union workers got thrown under the bus and were replaced by the public sector unions eg
teachers, “public servants” eg government ” employees. I miss those day but WUWT has become
my replacement to those times..
China and India lead the non-OECD countries and that train has left the station.
From the above article:
“China’s carbon emissions were largely reported in July to be on track to decline or plateau annually this year following data suggesting a reduction in coal usage and an increase in green energy output.”
(my bold emphasis added)
Good grief! Is there anyone left that believes the PRC states anything honestly if it goes against their world view and global intents?
Points in fact:
The Paris Agreement of 2016 (aka the Paris Climate Accords), a bunch of paper of signed national commitments to limit greenhouse gas emission that was supposed to take effect starting in 2020 . . . stillborn and now headed for the dustbin of history.
Yes, China ratified (signed) the Paris Agreement on 22 April 2016, only to publicly renounce the agreement in July 2023. They never met their commitment under the Paris Agreement.
“We should not forget that China is still a developing country…” When will China be called out for this bogus narrative?
Translation: We’re not even going to bother pretending that we’re going to cut our use of fossil fuels.
John Podesta is Biden’s TOP climate aide.
That’s almost as big an insult to the US population as Kamala Harris.
I suppose they’re getting their silly elite jollies though.
Would that be aide . . . as in Kool Aide?
John Podesta = Deep State
If we believe China are on track to achieving net zero by 2050, maybe we should do things the way they do, because the rest of us aren’t going to meet them the way we’re going.
Burn, baby, burn!
“this millenium”
fify
The Biden administration is an absolute disgrace. How on earth can they claim China’s CO2 emissions will plateau in the near future when China continues to build more coal powered plants? Biden and Harris are an embarrassment to the whole nation.
“The Biden administration is an absolute disgrace.”
The worst, most destructive administration in U.S. history. Their actions have put our nation in great jeopardy.
Whatever “commitments” China makes about “peaking” its “emissions” (not that it means anything, since CO2 does not drive the Earth’s climate) will be a facade of endlessly moving “goalposts” as they continue to cajole “western” nations to do more about THEIR (much smaller) “emissions,” all while laughing behind THEIR backs at THEIR stupidity.