As mentioned in my recent post from July 20, there are many data points gradually accumulating as to the lack of progress toward the so-called “green” economy. It has long been clear to people who think about it that the energy transition to “net zero” is a fantasy that will not occur. But the question remains of exactly how the mania will come to an end. Will the net zero fantasies of the climate cultists proceed at full speed until they crash into a wall of physical reality (e.g., blackouts)? Or instead will these fantasies gradually retreat as governments respond to voter pressure over costs and convenience, and as investors pull back as it becomes clear that projects cannot succeed financially?
A July 30 piece from John Miltimore of the American Institute for Economic Research supports the second alternative. The title is “Why the ‘Green Economy’ Is Suddenly in Retreat—in EU, US, and on Wall Street.”Meanwhile New York, at least for the moment, remains hell-bent on moving toward a full-on crash.
Miltimore’s piece collects data from multiple sources — notably the recent EU elections, EU regulatory changes, and actions of major U.S. investors. The most significant item in the piece relates to the withdrawal of several of the largest U.S. fund managers from something called Climate Action 100+. Climate Action 100+ describes itself as “an investor-led initiative to ensure the world’s largest corporate greenhouse gas emitters take appropriate action on climate change in order to mitigate financial risk and to maximize the long-term value of assets.” But it seems that in recent months some of the biggest investors have decided to change strategy. J.P. Morgan Chase and State Street have “pulled all funds” from Climate Action 100+ commitments, while their even larger colleague Black Rock “reduced its holdings and scaled back its ties to the group.” Miltimore cites a New York Times article from February quantifying the various withdrawals: “All told, the moves amount to a nearly $14 trillion exit from an organization meant to marshal Wall Street’s clout to expand the climate agenda.” $14 trillion is a big number in anybody’s book.
On the European front, Miltimore cites the results of the EU parliamentary elections in June together with various regulatory roll-backs both before and after those elections. He (fairly) describes the parliamentary election results as a “greenlash” against various Green parties, and particularly notes the disastrous result for the German Greens: “In Germany, the core country of the European green movement, support for the Greens plunged from 20.5 percent in 2019 to 12 percent.” He then collects a list of various climate-related regulatory initiatives that have either stalled or gotten rescinded in the EU, including: new restrictions on the use of pesticides; proposed bans on PFAS (per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances); restrictions on new industrial emission, (which ended up getting relaxed on industries and tweaked to exclude cattle farms altogether); and a new deforestation law. Meanwhile, efforts in various countries to ban combustion vehicles, restrict heating of swimming pools, and require electric heating of homes have led to serious popular push-back (if not yet to rescission of the regulations).
My comment is that much of Europe — particularly the UK and Germany — has already gone past the point where further significant emissions reductions can be achieved at reasonable cost. Further efforts to increase the percentage of “renewables” in electricity generation will lead to rapidly accelerating price increases. A reckoning can only be avoided by politicians backing off existing mandates.
New York remains well behind Europe in actually implementing the energy transition fantasy. Our Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act, mandating the transition, was enacted in 2019, with the first significant deadline (70% of electricity generation from “renewables”) set for 2030. In 2019, 2030 seemed so far away. Now in 2024 we are at a point where, to meet the deadline, most to all of the facilities needed to achieve the “70 by 30” target would have to be under construction; but almost none of them are.
My July 26 post featured a Report that I co-authored that warns New Yorkers not to convert to electric heat until the politicians show that they have a credible plan to provide the necessary electricity. Even as my co-authors and I were writing that Report, our Public Service Commission was putting together its own Report (the “Clean Energy Standard Biennial Review”) (Item 30 on this PSC Docket). Here is a summary from PBS. Key quote:
New York is expected to ramp up renewable energy production in the coming years, but it’s unlikely to meet a key climate target, according to an official review released last week. The state’s climate law, passed in 2019, mandates that New York obtain 70% of its electricity from renewable sources like wind and solar by 2030, which would significantly help curb the state’s climate-warming emissions. However, New York will likely have generated only enough renewable energy to meet around 45% of its electricity needs by the end of the decade, falling far short of its commitment, according to the review by the Department of Public Service and the state energy authority.
Even the 45% figure cited there is a fantasy, and consists mostly of a power plant at Niagara Falls that pre-existed all of this energy transition claptrap. So far all of our politicians are in a state of denial. The only slight concession to reality is some talk of maybe postponing the 2030 deadline a few years, such as to 2033. The fact is that they will be no closer to meeting the 70% target in 2033 than they will be in 2030, and in fact it will never be met because (as pointed out in my Report) they need “dispatchable emissions free resources” that don’t exist and won’t exist.
So at least for now New York is racing forward to try to crash into the wall of reality at full speed.
Discover more from Watts Up With That?
Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.
If All subsidies were removed, renewables would vanish overnight and reliables wouldn’t show the slightest blip
Nuclear would vanish overnight.
And Nigeria saw a huge rise in PV after ending fossil fuel subsidies.
Based on the search results provided, there is no clear evidence of a huge rise in photovoltaic (PV) adoption in Nigeria specifically after ending fossil fuel subsidies. However, the search results do indicate some increased interest in solar energy following the recent removal of fuel subsidies in Nigeria.
[Perplexity.ai. Lets keep it clean.]
Most of the energy Nigeria consumes comes from traditional fossil fuel, which account for 73% of total primary production. The rest is from hydropower (27%). Since independence, Nigeria has tried to develop a domestic nuclear industry for energy. Nigeria opened in 2004 a Chinese-origin research reactor at Ahmadu Bello University and has sought the support of the International Atomic Energy Agency to develop plans for up to 4,000 MWe of nuclear capacity by 2027
plans by 2027 ??
Facility by 2043?
roflmao.
Can anyone see any solar ???
GAS seems to be the big increase.
Well going from 1 solar installation to 2 solar installations is a 100% increase 🙂
YUGE increase!
Solar from 0% to 0% is a 1,000% increase. Seriously.
I’ll have to wait for the sun to come up to see if it sheds any light on that chart
Nuclear provides electricity WHEN NEEDED.
People want electricity WHEN NEEDED.
Wind and solar cannot possibly compete except by government mandate and subsidies.
They CANNOT provide WHEN NEEDED.
To provide a reliable, sustainable electricity supply, it needs to be a mix of ..
COAL, GAS, and NUCLEAR…. with Hydro and geothermal where available.
No other combination can provide reliable cheap supply.
Wind and solar are pointless and parasitic, destroying supply grid reliability and stability where ever they are implemented.
‘Handelsblatt’ Reports: Photovoltaics “Causing Problems Electricity Distribution Grids (notrickszone.com)
Once a few new SMRs and new larger Nuclear designs are proven around the world, Nuclear will take off like wildfire, and all the useless wind and solar, that destroys the environment at every stage of its short life span, will just become useless rotting heaps of junk.
However the environmental damage will remain for decades if not centuries.
What environmental damage?
From solar and wind..
Environmental damage at every stage of their existence , from mining, manufacturing, massive damage to environments they are installed, massive damage and waste when remove toxic landfill.. concrete pads there forever.
They are the most ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL for of electricity supply in existence.
Well just remember ‘no subsidies’ means level playing field with no dumping. ie Generators can only supply the communal grid with those electrons they can reasonably guarantee 24/7/365 along with FCAS or keep them for their own use. Even with State sponsored dumping by the fickles FFs produced 81% of the world’s power in 2023 with another 4% by nukes and only 8% fickles-
Global energy demand soars to new heights, unveiling an even greater concern (msn.com)
Even largely legacy hydro produced 6% and so much for all the trillions of slushfunds squandered for fickles.
Whatever Nigeria is doing, with a flattening life expectancy of around 50 years and equivalent annual income under $10,000, it is very much failing its citizens.
IIRC the “subsidies” were actually at the consumer end, to lower the price so poorer people could at least get some.
Very different from the HUGE subsidies paid up front in stupid developed countries for unreliables to even exist.
Do you recommend lithium batteries?
”Firefighters responded to a house fire in May after the homeowner’s dog chewed on a lithium-ion portable battery. Biting into the battery caused it to explode and catch a portion of the house on fire.”
From Tulsa. All animals made it out safely.
My garage has probably a dozen Li Ion power tool batteries and a couple of grandkids electric scooters, and a couple of gasoline tanks in vehicles. I don’t lose sleep worrying about them. Maybe we are overdoing the fire hazard thing a bit to the detriment of our credibility regarding sane fossil fuel usage ?
Li-ion have been a known problem since at least 2006.
Sony Recalls Notebook Computer Batteries Due to Previous Fires
https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2006/sony-recalls-notebook-computer-batteries-due-to-previous-fires
I’d keep my eye on recall notifications if I were you.
I was following the LiPO battery developments in the mid 1980s. Problems with internal shorts back then, fires due to flammable electrolytes, etc. The ability to produce with fewer latent defects has occurred, but the basic problem still exists.
The question is not if, but when the next fire occurs.
With the tool batteries maybe. I haven’t ever heard of a fire from one. Or from a laptop. But the electric scooters are a different matter, and I would not store those in your garage. And especially not leave them on charge in the garage. The chances are admittedly small, but if it comes up the house is gone.
London fire authority in the UK has reported an alarming number of fires caused by scooter and e-bike batteries. This is real. This is what perplexity.ai says about it:
There are lots of reports of laptop and cell phone fires. Just no longer big news.
I’ve had 3 fires with LiPo batteries in the 12v range. Unless they’re right next to something flammable, the fires aren’t big enough to damage much outside their immediate vicinity.
As the battery gets bigger, the potential for a larger fire also gets bigger.
Pretty sure tool batteries are also in the lower end of the power range.
But why should we bother when so much simpler, cheaper easier methods exist?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/watch-oklahoma-dog-ignites-house-fire-after-chewing-lithium-ion-battery#&_intcmp=fnhpriver_32
There’s one that will be careful what it chews in future.
The Nigerian Oil industry is booming. The rise in Nigerian PV panel sales was mostly to run remote telemetry for the oil industry.
As expected, MUN completely misunderstands the economic reason why nuclear power exists.Hardly surprising, MUN has been a mindless bot on any of the issues discussed here in WUWT.
Not all solar and wind. Niche applications will remain. How much less than 1% is the variable.
I’m old enough to have lived through a few weird periods which made me wonder how history would judge them. There was a weird daycare freakout in, I think, the 1990s, and I remember mostly some poor schmuck railroaded into some ridiculously long jail sentence, which was eventually overturned. History hasn’t treated that episode kindly, but they’ve also refused to label it is the predictable results of government with too much time on its hand and too many votes needing plucking.
This Green Raw Deal has had legs I never expected. It still astounds me that so many people spend so much of other people’s money on such impossible goals. I can only guess that government has a lot more of other people’s money to give away than some piddly little daycare nonsense.
I do expect it to go away by 2050, and I probably won’t be around then. But how long before history properly calls it what it is, a money grubbing hysteria? I don’t know if they ever will. The elites were quite willing to call Joe McCarthy out even while he was still in office, but mention Duranty and his praise of Stalin, and *crickets*. Somehow I think the Raw Green Deal will just be quietly forgotten, excused by nature had unforeseen tricks which were unforeseeable.
Its an age of hysteria – about race, gender, climate, energy, religion. With a reasonable chance of culminating in the use of nuclear weapons, most likely in the Middle East, but with a lower but still significant chance of their use elsewhere.
I think it will be the lawsuits from the people who died in Austin TX from the power debacle there, such a spanking to the tune of many zeroes, no one will want to be next.
I disagree, speaking from the EU. We will have blackouts. Compare it with migration. For more than 20 years people complain about migration and right wing parties get 20-25% of the votes. But those parties are boycotted and silenced in the media. Have you seen a change in migration policies? We will see a civil war first before politics.
We just voted in the EU and did it change anything? The green lost, right wing won and are the third fraction but are boycotted, they don’t get their rightful seats.
Ursula sold the voter out to the greens. The get the number of votes from the greens for her reelection she pushed the green deal.
Farmers have nothing to do with climate. We will see thousands of them stop farming in the next decade. All regulation about pesticides has nothing to do with climate but with nature. They want to restore nature. What that does mean I don’t know. Nature from 100 years ago? 200, 500 years? But the main goal is destroying farmers. Only a few days after the farmer protests they approved more regulation. We will see more farmer protests as nothing changed.
There’s some easing on a national level, heat pumps, force renovation, it’s clear that it’s impossible and not affordable. But is just losing the noose a bit, the goals are not moved.For example, force renovation to D label if you buy an older house within 5 years now becomes 7 years. Doesn’t solve the problems of all who can’t afford it. And we have seen the cost, average of 80.000, no sane person will spend that as you don’t make it back. Maybe if you put the heating on 30 all year and have no doors, windows and roof on your house.
France has lowest carbon emissions thanks to nuclear power. But is forced to spend millions on solar panels or windmills to hit some arbitrary number for renewable energy, signed EU. My country is going to do a green hydrogen project, it’s not like all those failed worldwide. Maybe this time will different.
The road to sanity is still far ahead and I don’t know if we will make it. These people lost all touch with reality and mostly the concept of money. If all fails you double down right? The west has no money, only debt, we keep spending on this energy transition knowing we don’t have the money and will never be able to pay off the debt. So even when private companies withdraw the politicians will keep pouring in all the money.The whole businessmodel is subsidizing. When you live in world with infinite money it won’t stop, unless you default. Pretty much where the west is heading.
We will have blackouts.
Yes, its the most likely outcome. Largely because of wishful thinking in implementation. The project at the moment is to move generation to wind and solar while at the same time increasing electricity demand by moving cars to EVs and home heating to heat pumps.
Despite increasing evidence that this is not going to work, the authorities will persist with the partial move to wind and solar while continuing not to provide storage or gas generation in enough quantities to avoid blackouts. They will not back off from the EV and heatpump mandates. The result will be, as the project is implemented, an increasing number and severity of blackouts. Along with rising electricity prices.
At some point this will generate a rethink, but its going to have to get a lot worse than you might think before this happens. It will probably take at least one cold start nationwide blackout to bring them to their senses.
There is another inexplicable example of the sort of thing going on in the UK at the moment. Despite the damning conclusions of the Cass Report, the British Medical Association is demanding the reversal of the last Government’s ban on puberty blockers. You might have thought, reading the Cass Report, that this was the end of the matter. No, for some inexplicable reason the BMA leadership desperately wants to see the prescription of puberty blockers to proceed at scale, and simply are not interested in the evidence, devastatingly summarized in the Cass Report.
Why? Why is this crazy idea so important to them? Heaven knows. Why is Miliband so desperate to move to wind and solar without backup? Heaven knows. We seem to be living in a world where obsessive ideologues can get themselves into positions of power and try to drive national policy in mad and dangerous directions – and succeed.
The Precautionary Principle was fine when it came to not raising the CO2 content of the atmosphere. Not so much when it came to moving to wind, or prescribing puberty blockers.
Money. Sex change surgeries and associated health care are large income streams. Keeping someone on hormones for life, guaranteed income for pharma.
So much for do no harm.
It is still hard to come to terms with the extend to which climate alarm and all the coupled policies with ‘woke’ seem to get rammed down with increasing force, doubled and tripled down. And digitalisation, CBDCs etc at accelerating pace. To me they are signs that the proponents are afraid they’ll lose momentum and the reality catches up w them. And the push for more conflict and war making any idea of peace negotiations more difficult. Or even halting the tempo to reassess things using just basic logic. One might see analogies w other times in which the center cannot hold. Worrysome..
Fore sure. The actions of the ruling class make sense with the realization that they care less about citizens’ welfare than they do about how they can harvest the most amount of wealth from them.
Beyond burgeoning sovereign debts, the acceleration you mention means that the wall is approaching rapidly.
Well, if you consider tipping points: 1 is when people feel it in their pocket or through blackouts.
“So at least for now New York is racing forward to try to crash into the wall of reality at full speed.” Hey, now that is a real tipping point.
More of a tripping point.
If we do failed predictions, Gary could post his 2017 peak renewables piece again 😀
Luser has lost its marbles !!
Lost?
You’re right–there’s no marbles to lose.
Why are Black Rock, Vanguard and other big fund managers withdrawing their funds from Ruinable Energy if it is so wonderful?
Vanguard appears to be buying stocks and bonds in diversified Mutual stock and bond, and ETF funds, not directly investing in “Ruinable Energy.” The firm has been pressured to do more about ESG but was the first large investment firm to demure/resign/withdraw from those initiatives.
Vanguard Group pressed to address climate risk as fiduciary duty | Pensions & Investments (pionline.com)
Vanguard and Fidelity Investments never became members of Climate Action 100+.
Do NOT feed the trolls.
He is here just to get attention.
Good to see the qualification of the term”renewable”. Taking over the meaning of language and making it widely accepted enabled the fantasy.
Weather Dependent Generators (WDGs) cannot produce more dispatchable electricity in 200 years than using the coal that went into their manufacture to produce electricity. They are net coal sinks. The fantasy has been kept alive through China burning humungous amounts of coal to make the WDGs.
If WDGs were the answer to a maiden’s prayer would China be exporting any to the developed nations before it was generating all their own electricity from those resource hungry monsters. Think of the competitive advantage if they somehow managed to jag the most efficient source of electricity generation. In fact, they have but convinced the UN to push the developed countries into the most expensive using all the Chinese made WDGs. It has been a well-planned and executed take over of global manufacturing.
“Weather Dependent Generators (WDGs) cannot produce more dispatchable electricity in 200 years than using the coal that went into their manufacture to produce electricity.”
I don’t doubt that- but can you offer a source, so I can show it to the green blob here in Wokeachusetts?
Control the language, control the ideas.
K.Marx
I can’t wait for winter. Hopefully, Mother Nature will cold slap some sense into these people.
It would seem the “let’s claim fossil fuel is a problem ” is biting back its messengers with a vengeance and no place to go.
Perhaps it would be helpful if we quit using the term “renewable.”
Sun/wind output is unpredictable, sporadic, and widely inconsistent, uncontrolled, insufficient, nominally electricity output.
The output is NOT electric service. Electric Service provides the exact amount required (demand, energy, voltage, current, frequency) of electric energy in the right form ( alternating current, one or two or three phases) at the exact time needed (customer demand). Electric Service includes the ability to provide the maximum amount needed at each service location (customer required maximum demand) and is available 24/7/365.
“Renewable” must be converted to A/C and demand deficiencies filled in—now taken for “free” from existing full-time generation on transmission grids. When ‘renewable” can do that…at lowest, honest, cost…we will be able to call it “electric service.”
A bit of sometimes available, sporadic, unpredictable, unuseful electricity is akin to trying to harness carpet sparks! Perhaps we just call it “Sparking”.
Randomly Variable?
But it is renewable.
“capable of being renewed”
The sun goes down, the PVs no longer output. The sun comes up. Output is renewed.
Ditto for wind.
Hijacking and repurposing a word is Marxism.
I prefer the term RUINABLES.
They ruin our grid with sporadic outputs that have no momentum – they are asynchronous so have to depend on expensive (and prone to failure) equipment to match current flow cycles.
And if those “dispatchable emissions free resources” existed, nothing else would be needed. Making the law moot.
In Deferrence to DEFR versus Indifference to DEFR:
The Use of a Mostly Emission Free Dispatachable Electricity Resource (MEFDER)
dbakerber says above: “And if those “dispatchable emissions free resources” existed, nothing else would be needed. Making the law moot.”
That is a key insight concerning New York’s Climate Act as it applies to electricity generation.
Strictly In theory, the option of nuclear power could technically handle all the baseload requirements in New York state plus some good portion of the quick-response DEFR requirements if the nuclear quick response capacity were to be paired with instant response gas-fired capacity.
So in theory, you have baseload nuclear handled by the AP1000 size reactors, plus semi-quick response nuclear based upon the oncoming SMRs, with these SMR’s then being paired with instant response gas-fired capacity.
So you eventually end up with a capacity mix of perhaps 70% baseload nuclear, 20% semi-quick response SMR load-following nuclear, and 10% gas -fired generation. In other words, a Mostly Emission Free Dispatachable Electricity Resource (MEFDER).
But then the issue of nuclear economics raises its ugly head. The portion of DEFR handled by semi-quick load-following nuclear must by definition run at a lower capacity factor than is considered economically optimum for nuclear power. And so a higher price must be charged for the electricity these DEFR load-following SMR reactors would produce.
The other major problem with mostly nuclear power for New York state is the condition of the nuclear construction industrial base in the Unites States. Building all the reactors needed for New York state to go mostly nuclear could easily monopolize the entire US nuclear construction industry for twenty years or more.
We could always contract China and Russia to build Nukes.
They are doing so on scale.
Yes, a bad idea.
Very nice Francis. We don’t have a climate problem and we don’t have a science problem, we have a government problem. It is clear as day. If we would just hold our politicians, bureaucrats and administrators accountable for their lies and misdeeds all of this nonsense would go away. The Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act is criminal. There is no foundation for such an act, the people who wrote it and voted for it should be severely punished. Those claiming that they have to screw the rest of us over to comply with it should be severely punished. They are all liars and cheats and need to be treated that way. We should not wait and hope they come to their senses, we need to go after them.
How about what i heard through the grapevine: the UN calling a global climate emergency in september?
Hence the term Climate Syndicate.
Don’t know about NY, but Ontario used to actually throttle the practically free energy from Niagara because the Libtard criminal government had guaranteed their crony wind developers high feed in Tarrif on windy days.
When the train is heading at full speed towards a rock face, it seems perfectly reasonable to ask those who refuse to apply the brakes to place themselves on the front of the engine.
“expected to ramp up renewable energy production in the coming years”
Still waiting on nuclear fusion – someone told me we’d have it by 1980.