Eastern Brown Snake eating an Eastern Blue tongue lizard. Matt from Melbourne, Australia, CC BY 2.0, via Wikimedia Commons

Study: Venomous snakes likely to migrate en masse amid global heating

Essay by Eric Worrall

Sell your automobile or the snakes will get you?

Venomous snakes likely to migrate en masse amid global heating, says study

Researchers find many countries unprepared for influx of new species and will be vulnerable to bites

Neelima Vallangi Fri 3 May 2024 19.35 AEST

Climate breakdown is likely to lead to the large-scale migration of venomous snake species into new regions and unprepared countries, according to a study.

The researchers forecast that Nepal, Niger, Namibia, China, and Myanmar will gain the most venomous snake species from neighbouring countries under a heating climate.

Low-income countries in south and south-east Asia, as well as parts of Africa, will be highly vulnerable to increased numbers of snake bites, according to the findings published in the journal Lancet Planetary Health.

The study modelled the geographical distribution of 209 venomous snake species that are known to cause medical emergencies in humans to understand where different snake species might find favourable climatic conditions by 2070.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/03/venomous-snakes-migrate-global-heating-study

The abstract of the study;

Climate change-related distributional range shifts of venomous snakes: a predictive modelling study of effects on public health and biodiversity

Summary

Background

Climate change is expected to have profound effects on the distribution of venomous snake species, including reductions in biodiversity and changes in patterns of envenomation of humans and domestic animals. We estimated the effect of future climate change on the distribution of venomous snake species and potential knock-on effects on biodiversity and public health.

Methods

We built species distribution models based on the geographical distribution of 209 medically relevant venomous snake species (WHO categories 1 and 2) and present climatic variables, and used these models to project the potential distribution of species in 2070. We incorporated different future climatic scenarios into the model, which we used to estimate the loss and gain of areas potentially suitable for each species. We also assessed which countries were likely to gain new species in the future as a result of species crossing national borders. We integrated the species distribution models with different socioeconomic scenarios to estimate which countries would become more vulnerable to snakebites in 2070.

Findings

Our results suggest that substantial losses of potentially suitable areas for the survival of most venomous snake species will occur by 2070. However, some species of high risk to public health could gain climatically suitable areas for habitation. Countries such as Niger, Namibia, China, Nepal, and Myanmar could potentially gain several venomous snake species from neighbouring countries. Furthermore, the combination of an increase in climatically suitable areas and socioeconomic factors (including low-income and high rural populations) means that southeast Asia and Africa (and countries including Uganda, Kenya, Bangladesh, India, and Thailand in particular) could have increased vulnerability to snakebites in the future, with potential effects on public human and veterinary health.

Interpretation

Loss of venomous snake biodiversity in low-income countries will affect ecosystem functioning and result in the loss of valuable genetic resources. Additionally, climate change will create new challenges to public health in several low-income countries, particularly in southeast Asia and Africa. The international community needs to increase its efforts to counter the effects of climate change in the coming decades.

Funding

German Research Foundation, Conselho Nacional de Desenvolvimento Científico e Tecnológico, Coordenação de Aperfeiçoamento de Pessoal de Nível Superior, German Centre for Integrative Biodiversity Research, Ministerio de Ciencia e Innovación de España, European Regional Development Fund.

Read more: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanplh/article/PIIS2542-5196(24)00005-6/fulltext

Models all the way down.

In venomous snake filled Australia, we’ve developed a very simple solution to the snake threat: Buy a cat.

Greens complain about house cats decimating the local wildlife, and this complaint is largely true.

But one of the forms of wildlife cats are really keen on killing is venomous snakes. They like the taste. So most of us tolerate the occasional endangered bird being dragged through the cat door, in return for almost total protection from animals which could kill us or our kids.

Did I mention cats are really popular in my part of Australia? My cat got plenty of treats and fuss a few years ago when it saved me from a snake.

The snake unexpectedly fell off the rafters of an outdoor patio area onto my table, landing just behind my laptop.

The snake didn’t hang about, it was much too worried about getting away from the cat. Though to be fair it probably climbed into the rafters in the first place because my cat was stalking it. The snake got away on that occasion, though the snake was badly wounded – the cat clawed and bit it, but the snake managed to slip through a crack in a fence where the cat couldn’t follow.

Of course, encounters between snakes and cats are less common in an urban environment, my snake encounter occurred when I was living on an acreage property. Snakes aren’t the smartest animals, but they know what cats smell like, and usually stay well away from anywhere heavily frequented by their ancient enemy.

I’m not sure how popular house cats are in the nations named in the study, but I bet they will become a lot more popular if a venomous snake threat emerges, whatever the cause.

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May 6, 2024 10:05 am

The study modelled….

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All you need to know

MarkH
Reply to  Steve Case
May 6, 2024 5:22 pm

Indeed:

  • snakes likely to migrate
  •  researchers forecast that
  • The study modelled
  • is expected to
  • Our results suggest

This really does not amount to a “study”, it is an exercise in speculative modeling. Such an exercise might result in the generation of a hypothesis that could be tested, but it certainly does not result in any “findings” or “conclusions”. Asserting that the outcomes of speculative modeling are findings of any sort should be considered scientific malpractice.

Reply to  Steve Case
May 6, 2024 9:05 pm

All you need to know

Worse than that the model chosen to give the scary result was RCP8.5. The same one the IPCC themselves say is highly unlikely.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Redge
May 7, 2024 6:59 am

Despite the IPCC saying RCP8.5 is highly unlikely Pielke and Ritchie noted that according to Google Scholar between the start of 2020 and mid June 2021 over 8500 papers using the implausible baseline scenarios had been published. Almost 7200 used RCP8.5 and nearly 1500 used SSP5-8.5.

Many climate ‘scientists’ seem to have no idea of integrity.

Pielke & Ritchie ‘How Climate Scientists Lost Touch With Reality’ (Summer 2021)

May 6, 2024 10:06 am

Wasn’t there at one time a movie about a similar claim of impending doom from nature? . . . I think it was called something like “Sharknado“,

1saveenergy
Reply to  ToldYouSo
May 6, 2024 11:48 am

& we had ‘Snakes on a plane’

Bryan A
Reply to  1saveenergy
May 6, 2024 12:51 pm

And The Day After Tomorrow

Reply to  Bryan A
May 6, 2024 1:47 pm

2012
(OH! Wait. That’s old “news”.)

Reply to  Gunga Din
May 7, 2024 8:13 am

I haven’t watched any of those movies.
Just a total lack of interest in fake fear…

Dave Fair
Reply to  ATheoK
May 7, 2024 11:43 am

What?!? You don’t follow Sharknado Week?

Dave Fair
Reply to  1saveenergy
May 7, 2024 11:41 am

Just what was that movie about?

0perator
May 6, 2024 10:12 am

And killer bees, and quicksand, and acid rain….
I’ve heard the same scares my entire life. Meanwhile every country is cracking down on free speech, and in the US the cities are becoming a wasteland of drugs and crime that isn’t punished. They don’t really care about what they proclaim to care about, at all.

1saveenergy
Reply to  0perator
May 6, 2024 11:55 am

What about all the venomous spiders, flesh-eating bugs & the poisonous plants ???

Reply to  0perator
May 6, 2024 2:00 pm

If you look at the Mortality Statistics at the US CDC, the deaths from opiates started AFTER the Harrison Act was passed in 1914 to make it illegal.

The first deaths reported from opium and its derivatives was in 1921.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsushistorical/mortstatsh_1921.pdf (search for opium)

Both opiates and alcohol act the same way by increasing the amount of dopamine released. The alcohol bars were losing customers to the opium dens. It lasted longer and didn’t lead to drunkenness and hangovers. Both were addictive to people whose ancestors came from opiate-producing and consuming regions and whose bodies didn’t produce enough endogenous morphine(endorphins).

0perator
Reply to  scvblwxq
May 6, 2024 2:28 pm

ok, not sure what the point is…

Reply to  0perator
May 6, 2024 6:32 pm

The anti-drug laws, the war on drugs, the multi-billion $ per year funding, greatly enlarge the police and prison states, markedly benefit the drug cartels (and the politicians who do their bidding), lead directly to a great deal of major crime which hardly existed previously, greatly increased medical costs to the general population, and have not decreased drug use in the slightest.

0perator
Reply to  AndyHce
May 6, 2024 7:03 pm

Agree wholeheartedly.
See also: Operation Gladio.

Bryan A
May 6, 2024 10:17 am

Seems to me that heat is supposed to spread northward…poleward…from more equatorial regions. Seeing as South and Southeast Asia have nothing southward but ocean, how.exactly will a pole ward shift of habitat increase the likelihood of snake bite from invasive species in 2070? Will Sea Snakes suddenly migrate to land and move inland?

Bryan A
Reply to  Bryan A
May 6, 2024 10:22 am

Likewise Niger is mostly Sahara Desert country but CO2 induced Oasification of the southern areas could see migration of snakes from Nigeria or Benin into the newly greening territory

Reply to  Bryan A
May 6, 2024 6:34 pm

who knows what lies beneath the surface waters?

antigtiff
May 6, 2024 10:20 am

The venom will become more deadly too….get a mongoose for protection.

Bill Powers
Reply to  antigtiff
May 6, 2024 11:53 am

And they will grow 3 sizes that day. Oh wait I confused deadly snakes with the Christmas Grinch.

don k
Reply to  antigtiff
May 6, 2024 3:24 pm

The way I heard it mongoosen (or whatever the heck the plural of mongoose is) will in fact eat snakes. But they prefer just about anything else. Native mammals, birds, whatever. So, have a snake problem? introduce mongooses. Now you have two problems.

Reply to  don k
May 6, 2024 6:35 pm

not unlike more cats

JohninRedding
May 6, 2024 10:20 am

First I heard that cat and snakes don’t mix.

Bryan A
Reply to  JohninRedding
May 6, 2024 10:27 am

Like Oil and Water…just add egg and they make a wonderful soufflette

Reply to  Bryan A
May 6, 2024 4:49 pm

You can mix basically anything using a blender. !

Bryan A
Reply to  bnice2000
May 6, 2024 5:08 pm

Some things still need an emulsifier to remain blended though

ozspeaksup
Reply to  JohninRedding
May 7, 2024 4:41 am

snakes do get the odd cat but cats are more likely to survive a bite than dogs are;-(

Joe Crawford
Reply to  ozspeaksup
May 7, 2024 10:59 am

My Dad had a hunting Cocker Spaniel that hated rattlesnakes. We lived in the North Carolina mountains at the time, and every spring the Cocker would get bitten and swell up like a balloon. Over the summer it would get bitten several times again with little effect. Guess it had developed an immunity from that first bite. But, next year, the same thing would happen again. This went on for several years, until we finally moved back to the flat lands.

Idle Eric
May 6, 2024 10:54 am

I wonder how these snakes are going to migrate, on a plane maybe? 🙂

Reply to  Idle Eric
May 6, 2024 6:36 pm

just about everything else seems to benefit from air travel, so why not?

ozspeaksup
Reply to  Idle Eric
May 7, 2024 4:43 am

well since we banned decent fumigation of incoming OS freight we now have fireants and varroa mites and a few others in aus, so os travel by our snakes is possible too I guess.

Joe Crawford
Reply to  ozspeaksup
May 7, 2024 11:22 am

Saw an article a few years back where Hawaii was now getting infested with your Brown Tree Snake. They assumed it had hitched ride and flown in from Australia rather than one of the other islands.

Dr. Bob
May 6, 2024 10:55 am

Climate Breakdown? How does a climate breakdown anyway. WTF does that even mean? This is getting absurd how words are twisted to scare people but have no actual meaning in any scientific sense.

Bill Powers
Reply to  Dr. Bob
May 6, 2024 12:01 pm

Climate Breakdown day being the moving target of End Times. On that single day, when everything ends, every bad thing they predicted from deadly snake migration to ingrown toenail and everything in between, which is just about anything bad, will strike like a meteor from outer space and all the bicarbonate in all the world won’t prevent you from dying of fright.

Ironically we have a much greater chance of civilization being wiped out from a meteor than “Man Made Global Warm…aahhh we really meant climate change all along!” and all the Governments in all the world can’t do anything about meteors either.

However, an argument can be made that the Trillions we spend on AGW would certainly be better spent on the greater threat of meteors than climate which is going to change, for better or worse, no matter how much authority we give the bureaucrats to restrict our freedoms. They now want to muck about with aluminum particle shields in space that won’t stop a meteor but just might block enough solar radiation to plummet us into the next ICE AGE. SMF’s.

Bryan A
Reply to  Bill Powers
May 6, 2024 12:53 pm

World Ends at 10…Film at 11

Reply to  Bill Powers
May 6, 2024 2:10 pm

Lack of CO2 is the biggest threat facing land plants and animals. If the CO2 drops below 150 ppm the land plants die and the land animals die with them. In the last glacial period, the CO2 level hit 180 ppm.
https://pioga.org/just-the-facts-more-co2-is-good-less-is-bad/

The interglacial periods, like the Earth is currently in, usually last about 10,000 years and it has been about 12,000 years since the last glacial period so the next glacial period could start at any time.

Bill Powers
Reply to  scvblwxq
May 6, 2024 2:50 pm

It will start at any time if these morons with the “Gentleman C” degrees who vacation in Davos, listen to the pseudo-intellectuals from the Ivy league, and keep mucking about with our atmosphere. Bring on the CO2 I say.

Reply to  Dr. Bob
May 6, 2024 12:27 pm

I saw the phrase “Climate Breakdown” and immediately thought of Bluegrass Music.

Reply to  Mumbles McGuirck
May 6, 2024 12:33 pm

Speaking of which, the aptly named “Carbon County Breakdown”

May 6, 2024 11:00 am

I’m counting on the coming explosion in feral cats to deal with them.

Duane
May 6, 2024 11:07 am

The headline and the actual study results are not the same thing.

From the article:

While a majority of the venomous snake species will experience range contractions due to loss of tropical and subtropical ecosystems, habitats for some species such as the west African gaboon viper will increase by up to 250%, the study found.

The ranges of the European asp and the horned viper were also forecast to more than double by 2070.

However, some snakes, including the variable bush viper endemic to Africa and the hognosed pit viper of the Americas were projected to lose more than 70% of their range.

“As more land is converted for agriculture and livestock rearing, it destroys and fragments the natural habitats that snakes rely on,” said study authors Pablo Ariel Martinez at the Federal University of Sergipe in Brazil and Talita F Amado at the German Centre for Integrative Biodiversity Research in Leipzig, Germany.

So contrary to the headlines, most venomous snakes will lose territory, not gain … while only a few will gain or move territory. And not due to climate, but due to habitat loss.

Reply to  Duane
May 6, 2024 6:39 pm

Are they sure snakes aren’t more like pigeons?

Rud Istvan
May 6, 2024 11:09 am

Let’s see. A scary Guardian climate article about modeled venomous snake migration alarm, published in Lancet, funded by Germany and EU.
That all makes sense—except for the part about the snakes.

Bryan A
Reply to  Rud Istvan
May 6, 2024 12:56 pm

“Snakes” are only there to Make you Afraid…Very Afraid

Reply to  Bryan A
May 6, 2024 2:13 pm

Automobiles kill many more people than snakes.

Scarecrow Repair
Reply to  scvblwxq
May 6, 2024 2:24 pm

Are you sure about that? Snakes love hot asphalt on sunny days and it is not uncommon to see dead ones. I think automobiles kill more snakes than people.

Reply to  Scarecrow Repair
May 6, 2024 6:40 pm

But, don’t you remember, autos were in the crosshairs first?

Reply to  Rud Istvan
May 6, 2024 1:51 pm

Build The Snake Wall!

Bill Powers
Reply to  Gunga Din
May 6, 2024 2:53 pm

Hell yes the democrats will register them to vote if we don’t. Green cards? They don’t need no steen-keen green cards.

Editor
May 6, 2024 11:15 am

Cool – there area only a few Timber Rattlesnakes in New Hampshire, we could use some more. (I think we have three “Rattlesnake Mountains,” that may date back to warmer climes.)

Reply to  Ric Werme
May 6, 2024 12:10 pm

Rattlesnake Mountain in Eastern Washington supposedly the tallest treeless mountain in the 48 states has a few snakes on it too…….

Rud Istvan
Reply to  Ric Werme
May 6, 2024 1:08 pm

We have rattlesnakes in the Uplands of Wisconsin. They tend to concentrate on the rocky bluffs along the Wisconsin River. Even tho my dairy farm is only a few miles farther south, in over 40 years have never seen one on the farm. Despite covering every inch several times a year gathering firewood, early fall grouse hunting, spring morel mushroom hunting.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
May 7, 2024 7:04 am

So you have morels too.
One of my hunting buddies is really good at spotting them and I need him to show me how. He has sold some on the internet from his property and I’m sure my oak woods has plenty since I get morel poachers trespassing.

Mr Ed
Reply to  Brad-DXT
May 7, 2024 12:18 pm

There was a local morel story a year ago and the state Health Department
got involved FYI========>

https://dphhs.mt.gov/publichealth/cdepi/diseases/MorelMushrooms

Locally after a forest fire the mushroom pickers come here from all over the
country, bushels of morels harvested, some large camps setup ect..be careful…

Mr Ed
Reply to  Ric Werme
May 6, 2024 2:32 pm

“BuzzWorms” aka Diamond Backs. I remember bucking hay bales as a young teenager
and being taught to roll the bale towards yourself when you pick it up,
so if there was snake under the bale it would move away not towards you. I also noted
that those on ranch/farms which had a lot of snakes seemed to have a good sized
arrowhead collections. Something about keeping your eyes on the ground a lot when
out working. I had a buddy who caught and collected them and kept them in a large glass jar and
collected the venom for sale…..he made some decent money on the side. He preferred the
young ones for some reason, more potent than the older ones. I have quite a few memories
of my youth and snakes..

Mr.
May 6, 2024 11:25 am

The Guardian is the go-to place for my daily hit of lunacy.

Question – wouldn’t all species of reptiles have migrated to new territories as the last ice age receded?

So snake migration as a result of warming environments would not be a new phenomenon on this planet?

Otherwise, my advice for potentially affected countries would be to stock up on mongoose.

Cats are pussies.

1saveenergy
Reply to  Mr.
May 6, 2024 2:41 pm

Always liked pussies,
… never liked cats.

Curious George
May 6, 2024 11:33 am

Nice to know that we care for snakes, not only for polar bears and wolves.

John Kelly
May 6, 2024 11:44 am

Maybe we should export some of the Eastern Browns, and maybe a few Taipans, to wherever these high falutin PhD professors live so they can study them live rather than just in GIGO models.

hdhoese
May 6, 2024 11:48 am

There is an Australian Snake Wrangler on American TV. That may not be the exact title, but it is interesting and of course they show off their multitude of talents. I grew up on a farm with western diamondback rattlesnakes where despite many encounters I never quite stepped on one. I probably wouldn’t be writing this except none even struck. They save venom where it is used best! Do all the parrots in Australia give snakes any trouble?

Mr.
Reply to  hdhoese
May 6, 2024 12:50 pm
  1. Kookaburra are snakes’ nemesis rather than parrots.
hdhoese
Reply to  Mr.
May 6, 2024 5:48 pm

That makes sense, saw one there and got a lousy picture, but impressive bill. Never did see a snake but may have been due to winter, Snowy Mountains great with ‘roo’ tracks.

Mr.
Reply to  Eric Worrall
May 6, 2024 3:14 pm

A .410 is the best farm tool for dealing with brownies Eric.

Reply to  Mr.
May 6, 2024 6:48 pm

A .22 caliber, or even a strong .177 caliber pellet pistol would be more sporting. Also consider that rats and mice are favorite foods of snakes, so they do come with a significant benefit.

Bob
May 6, 2024 12:06 pm

My view of cats just went up a bunch, are many cats killed by snakes? As for this study it is trash and whoever paid for it should be fired.

HB
May 6, 2024 12:12 pm

If you have snakes about that are feeding on a rodent population just feed the rodents with paracetamol snake eats rodent good buy snake. Toxicity to mammals is very low not so much snakes

Eng_Ian
Reply to  HB
May 7, 2024 3:35 am

Don’t let your dog get the paracetamol, nor the cat, they can’t process it and it kills them through liver failure. Not nice.

Sparta Nova 4
May 6, 2024 12:24 pm

Riki Tiki Tava

May 6, 2024 12:44 pm

Why did it have to be snakes?

May 6, 2024 2:04 pm

Why only venomous snakes?
They sound scarier?
What will the harmless snakes be doing?

May 6, 2024 2:12 pm

Some one in this motley crew, (Willis? Kip?) opined that the worth of a study was inversely proportional to the number of authors. I count nine, it should only take one, even then it would still be worthless. Publish or perish.

May 6, 2024 2:53 pm

I think that chickens are more likely to kill snakes than the other way round and will attack any incautious snake. Presumably because snakes will eggs and chicks given half a chance.

max
May 6, 2024 3:03 pm

Clutching at serpents, seems like a reach.

ResourceGuy
May 6, 2024 3:27 pm

Hey, snake charmers need academic promotions and tenure too. Let them all climb aboard the climate crusades chasing the money.

prjndigo
May 6, 2024 3:34 pm

If they used the word “migrate” then they’re beyond full of shit.

The bigger worry is if all the people in Darwin suddenly decide to move to Adelaide. That would be a disaster of epic proportions. The McDee’s mess alone could make the Great Barrier Reef catch fire!

May 6, 2024 4:27 pm

Rikki Tikki Tavi…

Kipling’s mongoose.

Bryan A
Reply to  It doesnot add up
May 6, 2024 5:11 pm

Get several and have Mongeese

sherro01
May 6, 2024 5:49 pm

When I was 14, my parents sent me to pick tobacco for income in school holidays, 5 weeks in Dec-Jan in the these hot tropics at Ayr, Queensland. The farm had trench irrigation, creating a haven for frogs. A gathering of frogs means mealtime for snakes. We’d meet several a day.Older pickers would wrap dead browns around unpicked bushes, so we’d end up with a handful.
The authors of this article fail to note the association between snake migration and the tobacco industry.
It is just as plausible as global warming causing migration. Or the hydrocarbon industry acting like tobacco people, so they must be snakes.
Geoff S

Edward Katz
May 6, 2024 6:03 pm

Much of the planet’s population needs to plan to move the Mars because climate change will force polar bears to migrate further south until they take over the suburbs. Meanwhile as more venomous snakes infiltrate urban areas, these will also become uninhabitable. And as temperatures rise into the bargain, agricultural failure and widespread famine are almost guaranteed, so what’s the point of staying here, anyway?

Reply to  Edward Katz
May 6, 2024 6:52 pm

sound like a rarely discussed part of the plan

Reply to  Edward Katz
May 6, 2024 7:54 pm

climate change will force polar bears to migrate further south”

Wait there…. are you saying the polar bears will move south to escape the Arctic warming?

There is something there that is a bit puzzling.. please explain ! 😉

Reply to  bnice2000
May 6, 2024 9:08 pm

I think I have figured it out.

Because “the Arctic is warming twice as fast as everywhere else”…

…. eventually it will be warmer than the Tropics.

Is that right ??

May 6, 2024 6:49 pm

You should be able to handle the coming snake apocalypse Eric…. 😀
(yes I’m that old….)

eric-worrell
sherro01
Reply to  Mike
May 6, 2024 10:19 pm

Eric,
My early years at Mackay introduced me to the family of Ram Chandra, one of the pioneers of milking snakes to make anti-venoms. His daughter or niece Naomi Ramsami was in my school class. Memory lane stuff, you handsome photographic lad. Geoff S

Louis Hunt
May 6, 2024 8:48 pm

The researchers forecast that Nepal, Niger, Namibia, China, and Myanmar will gain the most venomous snake species from neighbouring countries under a heating climate.

So, I guess the only snakes Americans need to worry about are the ones tattooed on the gang members migrating north.

corky
May 6, 2024 10:14 pm

How on earth could snakes know where it’s going to be colder?. Oh, stupid me, they don’t need to wait for Darwinian evolution to drive the process, they can just use their smartphones to google it.

ozspeaksup
May 7, 2024 4:38 am

Ive had 3 near misses from browns really close calls around hay bales of course. I got another one by the tail with a linetrimmer(accident) but the shovel was handy luckily. 2 tigers one nearly got a dog and the big brown I didnt see cost me 4+k to save the dog who also didnt see it in time.
joys of rural aus.

May 7, 2024 6:19 am

I saw that Grauniad article last Friday and immediately thought to myself “RCP 8.5 ?”.

So, purely out of curiosity (and boredom) I downloaded the paper and had a look.

Species distribution models were projected for 2070 with the general circulation models MIROC, HadGEM, MPI, MRI, and BCC under three Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change representative concentration pathways (RCPs): RCP2.6-SSP1, RCP4.5-SSP2, and RCP8.5-SSP5.

“Hang on a second”, my increasingly unreliable memory informed me, “didn’t the IPCC say that RCPs and SSPs don’t mix ???”.

Opening my “AR6-WGI_Titles-and-extracts.txt” file confirmed that the IPCC did indeed say that, in section 1.6.1.1, “Shared Socio-economic Pathways”, on page 231 :

The SSP scenarios and previous RCP scenarios are not directly comparable. First, the gas-to-gas compositions differ; for example, the SSP5-8.5 scenario has higher CO2 concentrations but lower methane concentrations compared to RCP8.5. Second, the projected 21st-century trajectories may differ, even if they result in the same radiative forcing by 2100. Third, the overall effective radiative forcing (see Chapter 7) may differ, and tends to be higher for the SSPs compared to RCPs that share the same nominal stratospheric-temperature adjusted radiative forcing label. The stratospheric-temperature adjusted radiative forcings of the SSPs and RCPs, however, remain relatively close, at least by 2100 (Tebaldi et al., 2021). In summary, differences in, for example, CMIP5 RCP8.5 and CMIP6 SSP5-8.5 ESM outputs, are partially due to different scenario characteristics rather than different ESM characteristics only (Chapter 4, Section 4.6.2).

So, the pal peer-reviewers of the Martinez et al paper failed to spot that this paper’s “projections for 2070” used non-IPCC-standard scenarii.

Also from the IPCC’s WG-I assessment report, in section 1.6.1.4, “The likelihood of reference scenarios, scenario uncertainty and storylines”, on page 239 (just 8 pages later) :

Among the five core scenarios used most in this report, SSP3-7.0 and SSP5-8.5 are explicit ‘no-climate-policy’ scenarios (Gidden et al., 2019; Cross-Chapter Box 1.4, Table 1), assuming a carbon price of zero. These future ‘baseline’ scenarios are hence counterfactuals

Anyone who has done even minimal checking of the various families of IPCC “emissions pathways” knows that the “old / CMIP5 for AR5” RCP8.5 pathway is neatly bracketed by the “new / CMIP6 for AR6” SSP3-7.0 and SSP5-8.5 pathways.

This means that for the IPCC, if SSP3-7.0 is above the “counterfactual” threshold then so is RCP8.5.
_ _ _ _ _ _

There are four figures in the Martinez et al paper.

An extract from the caption underneath Figure 1 :

The map shown is for scenario RCP-8.5-SSP5 (2070) …

Figure 2 :

The graphs shown are for scenario RCP-8.5-SSP5.

Figure 3 :

Depicted are scatterplots of the mean change in suitability of areas for habitation by venomous (category 1 and 2) snakes in climate scenario RCP8.5-SSP5

Figure 4 :

The map shown is for scenario RCP-8.5-SSP5.

In addition to the pal peer-reviewers of this paper not knowing that the IPCC’s RCP and SSP “scenarios” are not directly comparable, they also failed to spot that the paper concentrates almost exclusively on the “counterfactual” option, i.e. it is “pure climate porn”.

May 7, 2024 7:49 am

Urban researcher fantasizing another climate delusion.

Snakes love warmth.
Snakes love sunlight.
Snakes are reptiles and very warm reptiles are much faster and agile when warm.
People raising reptiles at home put artificial heaters into their cages and terrariums.

That is, the snakes ain’t going to migrate away from warmth.

It does sound like researchers took one of their personal fears, e.g., snakes, and modeled self satisfaction scenarios where they personally are very afraid.

Ask the researchers for proof of poisonous snake migration from warmer to cooler habitat.

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