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It is good to learn that the number of web places factually debunking the ‘climate crisis’ is growing. The number of warmunist sites is not; if anything, it is shrinking. The old ‘skeptics in pay of big oil’ proved false. The unspoken ‘warmunists in pay of renewables’ proved true.
There are basic factual reasons for these trends. All the bad stuff warmunists said would happen by now didn’t, and it is very hard to pretend otherwise given the Wayback Machine’s indelible memory:
If Thomas McKay were alive today, he would add a long chapter to his classic ‘madness of crowds’ book on the tulip bulb mania and the South Seas bubble. Renewable/EV mania.
The next step is to figure out why “liberals” believe predictions of non observable events overwhelmingly while “conservatives” are much less than half likely to do so. Poll results for years and years show that self identifiers of these labels report this to be the case.
IIRC, studies show conservatives are much more “science savvy” than liberals.
People believe the mass media, which are owned/controlled/in-league-with the power elites, including the government
The EU is enforcing a free-speech-muzzling law on Twitter/X, to make it toe the line like the rest, which means the US does not have to do that dirty job.
Worth noting that Dale Vince transferred funding away from ‘Just Stop Oil’ and to the Labour Party today because activism has become self-defeating.
People just aren’t buying the narrative anymore.
Rud,
Why do you think it is that this site hasn’t updated its UAH global temperature chart on the side-bar?
It posted the September update, as reported by Roy Spencer, on Oct 2nd and UAH has now published the official data. This site says it will update the UAH chart by the 3rd of each month. Up until this month, that’s what it has done since this feature started.
Most odd, don’t you think? What could it be about the UAH September global temperature update that has caused it not to be displayed on the side-bar update here so far (October 7th)?
I’m looking at the updated chart below and wondering what it is about it that this site doesn’t like the look of. What can it be?
Nothing to see here?
Are you resorting to OT moving of the goalposts to be alarming?
We’re in an El Nino phase again. It’s not surprising we see a spike. Getting your panties all wet because it’s not been posted on the sidebar for a couple of days seems a little desperate.
No, I’m just wondering why this site seems to have made an exception for the UAH September update.
Why would a temperature spike prevent them from showing it here?
Can you think of any reason?
As soon as they update it I will acknowledge that I was being “a little desperate”.
Last month spiked too.
Thankfully, we are still alive here in calgary as we await the inevitable blessed -35c crisp late fall temps.
Yes, the last 3 months in UAH have set new monthly records, respectively. July set an absolute record warm month.
But there’s something about this month’s anomaly that seems to have struck a chord.
Can you spot what it is?
I can’t speak for others but for me it struck this chord…
…Further proof that climate science has no idea about much at all and further evidence that co2 is not responsible.
A new VERY short term record out of the COLDEST period in the last 10,000 years.
And trees STILL aren’t growing under glaciers.
But Glaciers are still covering tree stumps
That rising atmospheric CO2 that did nothing for almost 9 years suddenly decided it should quadruple its back radiating efforts so you could become alarmed?
Certainly no-one in the USA would have noticed anything.. just a normal September.
Main “warm spot” was over Germany and NE EU, which we know was because of a much larger number of “sunshine” days than usual, because of a blocking high.
Other NH “warmer” spot was north of Canada…. oh dearie me, what a pity!
So, absolutely ZERO EVIDENCE of human causation.
Just normal El Nino weather variations.
Also, your point might have an actual point if the site had ignored it completely but of course it was posted as a standard story the same day the good doctor posted it on his site.
It’s October so maybe the site is busy with the typical brain dead overkill of the climate insane always associated with UN fall meetings?
Yes, as I pointed out in my own comment. Hence ‘most odd’.
Here’s the thing though; that post is now below the cut-off line for ‘latest posts’; you have to go searching for it. The side-bar with the UAH chart is there each time you open this site. It’s already out of date and in a significant way. It’s a bad look for the type of audience this site generally caters to, let’s face it.
As I’ve said above, I’ll be happy to acknowledge it once the update happens. Maybe I’m becoming a conspiracy theorist too (I keep bad company).
“ ‘most odd’“
What is “most odd” is how you continue to FAIL to give an estimate of how much warmer it must have been, for trees to have grown where now there are glaciers.
Yes Rusty, how ‘bout it? Will you please explain how tree stumps and human artifacts are being revealed as the glacial ice melts away?
I mean if we’re seeing
U N P R E C E D E N T E D !!!
warmth today then how could there have been a time during human history when the land, that is still mostly covered by ice in our day, was an ice-free forest where humans went hunting?
Now you are being an idiot since it was THIS blog here that made a post all about the UAH showing a large temperature spike with large chart and link back to Dr. Spenser’s website just very recently.
There is a lot going on besides the scene here and most of the moderators are NOT involved in fixing sidebar problems.
Did you not read my initial comment, Tommy? You didn’t, did you?
Read it again. As I pointed out, despite posting the UAH update on the day it was announced, this site has, as yet, failed to update the side-bar UAH chart.
The UAH monthly update post has now disappeared below the ‘latest post’ fold; yet the out-of-date UAH chart remains on the side-bar.
We wouldn’t want people to be misinformed now, would we?
Yawn, have you noticed this is a SEA LEVEL post why not follow the topic instead?
Most of the easy sea level rise has been done as there isn’t much easy to melt snow and ice left to draw on thus it will be a slow rise which has yet to reach the long-known Sea level high stand of recent centuries.
And that TEMPORARY, WHOLE EARTH temperature increase did not increase sea levels.
Yes. It said…Blah, blah, f**kn blah.
You have STILL FAILED to answer my question about how much warmer it must have been for trees to grow where there are now glaciers.
You have had heaps of time to give an answer, as the question was asked way before the UAH September data came out.
The ONLY person pushing misinformation here .. IS YOU !!
Hey Bonehead, aka TheFinalNail.
Some of us have busy lives. I started to update it a couple of days ago, then got distracted by a phone call. It is updated now.
Quit your conspiratorial whining.
I thought you might be having a little trouble Nailing it Down…
BUT…
Nailed It!!!
Are you sure Rusty Nail isn’t just the new sock puppet name for Ed Griffin aka griff? It’s the same incessant drone of alarm, impervious to all facts and reason.
Care about what you are able to care, WUWT page update isn’t yours.
You’re being a moron, Rusty. You know that, right?
It is well understood that a few folks are unhappy unless they can criticize something. Thus, WUWT has a long history of pleasing all its readers by occasionally serving up a forkball (see: Elroy Face).
You are welcome. 🙂
Can you think of a reason trees were able to grow 1000 years ago, where there are now glaciers ?
Or are you still totally mystified ?
You could try REMSS.
It shows it cooler than 2016.
It’s done manually on a different date every month. Anthony gets busy you paranoid little person. It gets done when it gets done.
I put the UAH update up as a post on the day Dr. Spencer released it.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/10/02/uah-global-temperature-update-for-september-2023-0-90-deg-c/
Charles,
This month, Roy did not paste the monthly update on his blog post on its first day, as he has usually done. I got caught out also, by blindly following my usual monthly procedure to make a graph of Australia. Now corrected. The update data for a half dozen selected regions for Sept appeared on the blog two days later than usual in Aust with a different time zone for sleeping, so it might have been only one day later than usual.
Cheers. Geoff S
a volcanic eruption caused the little ice age and the water in the stratosphere from the 2022 hunga tonga eruption is resulting in unusual warming.
it is called nature. we live on a dynamic non linear planet and there isn’t anything we can do about it.
Actually, Spencer and Christy at UAH have already described the effects of the HT eruption as having had, at most, an effect of “a few 100ths of a degree” on global temperatures. September 2023 beat the previous September record by 45 hundredths of a degree. So no, it wasn’t HT.
Anyway, what’s this got to do with why this site hasn’t updated the chart?
Do you need to a ride to the emergency room over a slow to update chart?
Thanks Tommy. I’ll try to rearrange those words in a way that makes sense.
Once the chart is updated I’ll come back and serve my penance.
One Chart to Rule than all
One Chart to find them
One Chart to call them all
And in Holy Climate Science bind them
The Chart is Precious
We’re waiting, Rusty Bonehead.
Perhaps they are mistaken about the impact of this essentially unprecedented eruption in modern times. The South Pole ‘ozone hole’ opened early this year, and has grown quite large, when everyone was predicting a slow, gradual healing.
Yes it peaked early at about 90% of the range but now it has dropped to about 50%.
Again, Rusty’s inability to read what is written and actually comprehend.
Certainly this slight spike is NOT CO2 or any other human causation, otherwise you would be able to produce some actual evidence instead of childish little non-posts.
Roy’s comments on HT were very guarded.
He was stating his opinion.
Words like “appears” might give even a gormless twit like you an idea.
Aren’t those “Warmest” global temps also by a “Few Hundredths” every month??
Well James Dyke from Exeter University climate dept, and author of ‘Fire. Storm and Flood: The violence of climate change’ is remarkably restrained (for him) in a piece he just wrote in the UK i Newspaper
(6th Oct)
Talking about last months temperature anomaly he says
“Then there are two other factors that may be playing an important role. The first is the eruption of volcano Tonga-Hunga Ha’apai, a massive undersea volcano in the SW Pacific that injected a vast amount of water vapour high up into the atmosphere.
The second is the sudden decrease in sulphur from marine shipping. Three years ago, international regulations to reduce pollution from shipping came into effect. This significantly reduced….. sulphur pollution that the ships were producing, but the sulphuric smoke also had an overall cooling effect”
You really need to get out more!
And a bigger ‘ozone hole’ than we have seen in quite awhile;
I would say, that given your moronic PANIC over the data not being updated yet…
.. it is highly likely because Anthony is deliberately holding it back, just to yank your chain.
A Pavlova exercise ! 😉
You are seeing the warming effect of El Niño, which will last at least one year.
After THIS El Niño, temperatures will subside to trend
It confuses lots of uninformed people and the Media, etc., take advantage of that for increased scare-mongering to get additional brownie points from the elites
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/10/02/uah-global-temperature-update-for-september-2023-0-90-deg-c/
Gee, an entire post about the very thing you say this site “doesn’t like the look of”.
You really are slimy with your intimation of bad intentions.
Apes will take over.
They might do a better job.
Are you done thread jacking over a non issue?
They have 6 Chimps already..
And an ape would certainly do a better job that you do.
They might even understand that tree don’t grow under glaciers. !
Than Dementia Joe, for sure.
I contribute to his site, no one does sarcastic snark like him in his Wednesday blog posts.
Sarcasm remains the best weapon against the climate Scientologists.
The author of The Madness of Crowds was Charles McKay, not Thomas.
I read the comments on YouTube videos, and I’ve noticed the alarmists are posting less and less, while sceptics are taking their place. Furthermore, the alarmists seem to be losing confidence, often slinking away when challenged with facts.
except, Wadhams’ “prediction was rejected by te IPCC.
Not rejected, the UN changed it to “Boiling” No rejection of the word “boiling” heard from warmistas anywhere, especially you.
He still made the prediction… still self-named and self-important “climate scientist”
He even has a unit of sea ice named after him
1 Wadham = 1 million km²
Good video and important point at 7:45 that we skeptics need to be very conscious of.
Many of the oft used comparison photos pairs taken decades or centuries apart are used to show no sea level rise; even on WUWT. We need always to question whether the state if the tide was actually the same in each photo. Not just daily tides but spring/neap variations and 14 year lunar cycles, etc. We need to be much more rigourous, transparent and honest than our alarmist friends.
On the other hand, it demonstrates that centuries of sea level rise are dwarfed by the twice-daily tidal changes. What is a few centimeters of sea level rise in Liverpool when the tide is routinely 7 meters?
I grew up in Wallasey on the Wirral, The tidal range in the Mersey Estuary can be as much as 9 metres. We often drowned 🙂
Sea level changed approximately 400 feet from the last glacial maximum to the level of the current interstadial – prior to humans using fossil fuels. Let’s call that the standard “natural” range.
Sea level during the current crisis is rising about 1 foot per century. That is 0.25% of the natural range over a century time scale.
Other than celestial mechanics, what other natural process varies only 0.25% over century time scales?
We are not experiencing a climate crisis, we are experiencing a remarkably stable climate!
Only people who spent too much of their lives growing up in air-conditioned luxury would think there is anything unusual about the warm weather, occasional floods and hurricanes, etc.
Only people who choose to ignore (or ‘deny’?) the 14B years of our universe’s existence would think our climate (or any other anywhere else) has ever been stable or unchanging. We didn’t inherit a perfect earth in perfect harmony, but rather evolved to adapt to its ever-changing climate and natural chaos.
Climate change is real and has been ongoing on earth for 4.5B years. And it won’t ever stop no matter how many tax offerings we make to the Green Warmunist Overlords.
You are forgetting the several hundred million, or more, who are tuned into the truth from Party Central. These, of course, must be distinguished from the much smaller, but still significant, multitude who ride the Party gravy train.
John Robson,
Your video was quite ok, but it did not mention the big problem with measurement of sea level change.
It did not mention the possibility of a measurable effect from a change in the geometry over time of the walls and floors that contain the oceans. Sure, it is difficult to formulate and execute a way to measure such change. But, that is not a reason to ignore it. At least give it a mention.
The present methodology of most authors is to apply cancel culture to this problem. Don’t mention it, so people will think it is settled science.
It happens all the time in perverted climate research. Like, don’t mention the true uncertainty of historic temperature measurements, double down on claims that temperatures measured in 1890 have uncertainty of below 0.2 degrees C. Then, with the Urban Heat Island effect, make a pathetic and misleading attempt to correct for it by the brightness of city lights seen from space at night. How quaint, how immaterial! Next, continue to claim that CO2 radiative effects are a force to be feared, when Wijngaarden & Happer have shown that extra CO2 has very little extra radiative effect, nothing to fear.
This common, unscientific approach to cancel opposing science, then to double down on poor science because it helps the cause has made a rotten mess of public perception of the reality of our pleasant (and getting better) climate.
Please continue publicity about poor science and promotion of hard science alternatives.
Geoff S
Quite so! The rate of motion of tectonic plates is about 10X that of sea level rise.
Don’t anyone tell Greta or she’ll demand that we panic over it.
Goodness me, I had not thought of it that way.
Story tip – https://climatediscussionnexus.com/2023/10/04/no-way-norway/
The rate at which ocean heat content is increasing has accelerated. Basic physics informs us that the volume of a body of water increases as it warms due to thermal expansion; so how is it possible that the rate of sea level rise hasn’t accelerated too?
What magic charm is there that stops the laws of physics applying to ocean heat increase?
The problem you have to be alarming is that it needs to double to double the rate of sea level rise from 30cm over a century to 60cm over a century. And double again to get over a metre. That’s not going to happen is it.
That doesn’t address the question: if the rate of ocean heat content is increasing, then what magical charm prevents a rise in the rate of sea level rise? Where is the extra volume of ocean water going to go if not up?
Vanishingly small temperature rise = vanishingly small thermal expansion.
You’re welcome.
We’re agreed that ocean warming will lead to rising sea levels. Fair enough.
So, what there is no danger to the planet over a slow and small rise anyway.
It was higher in recent centuries the Turtles manage to outswim the sea level change.
Why don’t you stop boring the adults here with fearmongering tripe.
Except IT ISN’T HAPPENING any faster than it has for the last 100+ years.
Are you as SCARED of 2mm/year sea level rise..
… as you are in an utter panic about a HT and El Nino atmospheric spike of less than half a degree C?
Hint.
NEITHER has any human causation.
Both are totally natural.
The Nail doesn’t understand the meaning of “accelerate”.
Yep, the old chestnut of ocean heat content again. The overall change in temperature is smaller than the resolution of the thermometers.
Like all alarmist bedwetters, Rusty is a stranger to the science of Metrology.
Well it’s a bit more complex than that.
Density of seawater depends on heat content and salinity. Since seawater is not perfectly incompressible, it also varies slightly with pressure, so the deeper you go the more compressed seawater becomes. So melt water from icecaps and glaciers is densest a 4’C 0.9998395 g/ml at 0°C it is 0.99987, whereas Seawater at 35000ppm and and 0°C at the surface 1.02813 and 2000 metres depth is 1.03747 g/ml.
What you have to is take that lot and work what is going to happen as icecaps melt and mix with the salt water altering the salinity and there’s a miniscule heating at depths. Plus the problem of floating and land ice melts.
So I’d be interested in your professional opinion of just how much this will ad to sealevel?
Pat agreed to “vanishing small thermal expansion”. Do you not also agree that the vast thermal inertia of the oceans means that the bulk temperature change of thousandths of a degree means correspondingly minuscule change in volume? It appears that you threw out this thermal expansion “red herring” rather than address the fact that ice caps have been melting since the end of the last ice age and the land based ice cap melting is the primary source of sea level rise and that the rate of rise is not accelerating.
The most important thing that has been vanishing is the credibility of the alarmists.
If all the warmist/alarmists stop crying over a non existent crisis then the sea level rise will stop therefore the solution is stop crying so hard…….
The oceans do not have straight sides. See “Archimedes” or the Eureka effect for context.
Or there are several beaches you could visit. Either way, up your game. You are getting tiresome.
“if the rate of ocean heat content is increasing”
Where is this being measured ?
Real data.. you have none.
There is no sign of any acceleration in global sea level in any physical measurement period.
Only the continual adjustments give that appearance in the satellite data.
“if the rate of ocean heat content is increasing, then what magical charm prevents a rise in the rate of sea level rise?”
Physics. To double the rate of sea level rise means doubling the rate at which energy is absorbed into the ocean. Which in turn means double the TOA radiative imbalance from a doubled effect of CO2 and feedbacks if you want to blame that.
Yep it’s gone from tickling my toe tips deep to splashing my toenails deep in the last decade. If this keeps up my shoes might get wet around 2050 and they’re about 15′ back up the beach
it’s going up at a steady rate – but not accelerating- there is a difference- look it up Mr. Physics
Oh my god we are doomed!
LOL
The oceans were much warmer during the MWP than it is now, yet no one stopped sailing and swimming in it.
How do you know the ”ocean heat content” is increasing or that it has accelerated?
Mioke,
Also, did you notice the scientific ignorance about untis, where the RATE is claimed to have ACCELERATED?
Time derivative is distance > velocity > acceleration > ?some odd, unphysical concept.
Geoff S
Graphs don’t look like they are accelerating… steepest part was around 2000.
Anyway, ARGO only started around 2005, so anything before that is pure guesswork based on highly random and sparse measurements.
They also say…“For example, warm waters jeopardize the health of corals,”
Sorry guys, but corals LUV warm water !!!
OHC in perspective
See that little red squiggle at the end.
You know NOTHING about physics, so the rest of your comment is meaningless.
TFN,
Please read what I just wrote about the need to show the walls and floors of the ocean basins are not affecting the measured changes.
BTW, what is the uncertainty range for measurements of ocean temperatures of the type that you mention?
Geoff S
We know that ocean seismic activity matches atmospheric temperature very well…
We know that CO2 doesn’t…
… in fact, there is zero evidence of any CO2 warming in the atmospheric data.
There isn’t any magic charm. What there IS, is the simple fact that infra red (heat) from above cannot warm water as it cannot penetrate the surface layer. If you don’t believe this, fill a bath with cold water, then heat it from above with a blowlamp until it’s warm enough for you to take a bath. We’ll wait.
What? This knucklehead is suffering without reason and will likely lose his job for a non-problem?
Anyone but WUWT readers won’t fund the humor I bet:
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2023/oct/04/climate-scientist-faces-sack-for-refusing-to-fly-to-germany-from-solomon-islands-archipelago
Lots more where he came from
I’m puzzled as to how he got to the Solomon Islands in the first place.
By rowing boat?
Well, at least he isn’t so much a hypocrite as the Stop Oil Now and partner members.
“… a journey he estimates will take two months, but that will, he estimates, save 3.6 tonnes of carbon emissions.”
I will do my best to compensate for his lack of care for the CO2 needs of Gaia. She recognized the slow depletion underway and allowed humans to develop a carbon-based fuel. Her plan for humans, when the CO2 level is satisfactory, is unknown. Maybe she will keep us.
[A hat tip to George Carlin — plastics.)
Here is a link to DROWNED cities of the distant past the ones that were swallowed up when Glaciation ended, and the ice caps melted way back causing sea level s to rise 400′ or so rather rapidly too for a few thousand years.
Drowned Cities
LINK
Seriously? Is that the best you can do? Link to a website that is full of rubbish starting with the claim that “The gradual rise of the oceans is thus another clear relic of the Deluge.”
Do you really expect us to believe in the story of Noah’s flood?
Yet you “believe” in far more idiotic things !!
It depends which story of Noah’s Flood. There is a very good book by Ryan and Pitman, a couple of chaps at the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory. It seems to make a great deal f sense.
HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW, it is clear you didn’t read through the link as there are embedded sources in part of it and that it was referring to the rise of 400+’ of sea level that covered over cities and roads of many thousands of years ago some as far back to 10,000 years ago.
In recent years research on the long-vanished cities have picked up pace as a new field to explore.
Really and what exactly do you make of this:
“n 1985, several hundred miles east of the Azores, a Russian submarine under the command of Nikolai Seleznev, was filming the ocean floor with a special deep-diving camera, when, at a depth of 120 feet, they noticed a string of stone columns and then a massive dome-topped building.
“We couldn’t believe our eyes,” he said. “We were viewing an entire city with magnificent boulevards and avenues and they were lined with what looked like temples and halls, government buildings and homes.”
Suddenly their power flickered. The engines shut down on their own and then the needles on the instruments, including clocks, began to quiver and run backward. Many of the crew began to hallucinate. The terrifying experience ended as suddenly as it began, after about 15 minutes. (Australasian post, January 30, 1986)
Other explorers have reported a mysterious energy field in the area.
”
So in addition to believing in Noah’s flood you also appear to want us to believe in mysterious energy fields that cause clocks to run backwards and people to hallucinate. Then there is
“The sunken city of Ys is placed traditionally close to the French coast. Here was played out an intriguing story of juvenile delinquency. It is reputed that Dahut, the daughter of Gradlon, king of Ys, during a drinking bout with her lover, opened the city floodgates with a stolen key, to see what would happen….”
again complete nonsense. The entire page is full of rubbish. Again if you really believe that nonsense then it is no surprise you believe in many conspiracy theories peddled on this site.
Are you on drugs?
I made no reference to a flood or energy fields, what I have referred to was rapid Sea Level rise that drowned cities and roads that is all I did.
You can stop trying to put words into my mouth and your stupid attempts to LIE your through it.
So that link is less than worthless. Why would anyone post it beside their name? It is about as crazy and silly as any site I have seen. Did you even read it? Go to the main page and tell me honestly what you feel? I can tell you I would be ashamed. And yet at least one other person upvoted you. http://www.beforeus.com/
“It is about as crazy and silly as any site I have seen.”
You should read your own comments !
Manic delusion and ignorance.
So you support the nonsense written on that site do you? I am not surprised……Your filter for truth that broken is it? Oh and hows that El Nino warming going for ya soldier?
Yawn, some of these drowned cities have been talked about on the Discovery Channel and Readers Digest books too bad you don’t keep up with it with since you show a profound lack of understanding that we are going further back in history at a slow pace because some of it is hard to reach and to see due to changes over time such as the cities that were on or near the shore 10,000 years ago and up to 400″ lower in elevation which have been drowned deeply so long ago that they were lost to history.
Yawn… I don’t doubt there may be an element of truth in this stuff (probably, there certainly wasn’t in the Jaques Cousteau bollocks), but the website is clearly by a nutter, and only a nutter would quote it or think it reasonable. Sorry but it looks like it was developed by a 14 year old in 1990. You want to be associated with it… it says more about you than the silly site.
Never disputed that he makes outlandish claims but the part about Drowned cities is real as I have already pointed out from the start and see it talked about on the discovery channel a reality you seem to be fighting against as they not long ago discovered a whole Town that is found well underwater in Greece that vanished over 2,000 years ago which was caused by those melting glaciers and ice pack as the Interglacial period was warming and had been for over the first 8,000 years of the interglacial period.
Meanwhile your insult is funny because you have 100% dodged a fact that Drowned Cities do exist as you seem desperate to avoid admitting is real because it upsets you….. for no reason at all.
HAW HAW HAW…..
It shows that you are a very small, minded person.
I’m merely pointing out you are a clown for siting a clownish website to back up your statements. Find something credible if you want to be considered credible.
I always liked this one because we used to go to this beach when I was young.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/forest-of-borth
The flooded ruins off Alexandria are probably the most famous.
https://www2.ljworld.com/news/2010/may/26/divers-explore-sunken-ruins-alexandria/
Dunno, as don’t run the site. But have a couple of speculations, since my basic failed predictions list seems to have triggered you.
One simple fact check that puts the BS to rising sea levels is the real estate value of oceanfront properties around the world. Hint: they ain’t going down folks! https://wordpress.com/post/silvercityburro.com/113v
Very nice.
The CDN does great work. 👍
Oh come on, Denison sea level is affected by el nino, the sea level drops, so if you compare a la nina year to an el nino year you will find a drop in sea level. The overall trend is up though.
Come on CDN, you discredit yourself by not knowing this, or if you do, lying about it, which is even worse