The Epistemological Crisis: A Misguided Dive into Supposed Climate Denial and the Danger of Constructed Narratives

In the vast landscape of climate discourse, few articles stand out as starkly as Susannah Crockford’s piece titled “That Which They Will Not See: Climate Denial as a Vector of Epistemological Crisis in the Contemporary United States”. At first glance, the article promises an in-depth exploration of the cultural epistemology of climate denial in the US, particularly in the southern states. However, a closer examination reveals a piece riddled with constructed narratives that seem more intent on smearing a broad group of people than offering a genuine understanding of their perspectives.

“Climate denial continues as a cultural epistemology for anthropogenic climate change in the United States, despite worsening impacts.”

From the outset, the framing of climate skepticism as “denial” is problematic. This term inherently dismisses any counter-arguments and paints a vast group with a broad brush, without delving into the complexities of their beliefs. The use of the term “denial” is a classic rhetorical move, designed to equate skepticism about certain aspects of climate science with the denial of undeniable historical events, such as the Holocaust. This is not just misleading but intellectually dishonest.

“Engaging with the literature on agnotology, the social construction of ignorance, the argument is made that this literature as it pertains to climate denial does not go far enough in accounting for the persistence of the rejection of climate science.”

Here, Crockford insinuates that those skeptical of mainstream climate narratives are merely ignorant. But what if they’re informed by a different set of data, experiences, or perspectives that the mainstream has overlooked or intentionally suppressed? By leaning on the concept of agnotology, the article conveniently sidesteps the possibility that there might be legitimate reasons for skepticism, painting it instead as a mere product of ignorance.

“Theoretically drawing from anthropological work on the incommensurability of paradigms, the argument is based on a tripartite construction of denial as produced through an interaction of a cultural norm of radical empiricism, a political-media ecosystem funded by fossil fuel companies, and a cosmological schema derived from conservative white evangelicalism.”

This tripartite construction is a glaring example of the article’s flawed approach. By attributing skepticism solely to these three factors, Crockford ignores a myriad of other potential reasons for differing viewpoints and perpetuates a false narrative. It’s a reductionist approach that doesn’t account for the vast complexities of human belief and understanding.

“Francis Beer and Robert Hariman (\nCitation2020\n: 20) argue that the Covid-19 pandemic exposed an epistemological crisis of stark knowledge disparities between vernacular and scientific explanations of causality and solutions.”

Drawing parallels between the Covid-19 pandemic and climate change might seem like a stretch, but there’s a strong element of truth here. It’s just that it’s the opposite of what Crockford concludes. In both cases, ideologically captured institutions, academia, and media have marched in lockstep to force approved narratives and suppress and censor unapproved ones. The “epistemological crisis” isn’t just about knowledge disparities but about the suppression of dissenting voices and the dangers of echo chambers.

“I situate this reframing in conversation with anthropological work on white evangelical Protestants, a group associated in particular with climate denial, either through opposition to secular culture or end-times chronotope.”

This is perhaps the most egregious part of the article. By singling out white evangelical Protestants, Crockford engages in a baseless smear campaign, suggesting that this group is the primary driver of climate skepticism without any substantial evidence. It’s a classic case of scapegoating, diverting attention from the real issues at hand.

In sum, Crockford’s article is a glaring example of the very epistemological bubble it purports to critique. By constructing false narratives and failing to genuinely engage with the complexities of climate skepticism, it continues the path of polarization and othering.

Articles such as this are simply expressions of frustration that those ignorant savages just won’t listen to reason. It’s a frustration borne of moral narcissism and unwavering obeisance to expertocracy. The epistemological crisis occurring is one of a failing expertocracy forcing its viewpoints and worldviews through an onslaught of propaganda and censorship on a populace that can see the contradictions and flaws in those viewpoints.

Source: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00141844.2023.2242599

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Ron Long
September 4, 2023 6:24 am

CTM has provided an example of the meme that “some people are not only stupid, but are proud of it”. Ms. Crockford displays the belief that persons that do not think like her are wrong, and are likely so blinded by dysfunctional agendas that they are part of a cult mentality. This mentality was displayed by President Biden, when visiting the hurricane damage in Florida, said that the evidence of climate change was all around us, and, unless you are stupid, you can see it. Wow! Being called stupid by Brandon provokes a flood of emotions, probably resulting in some damaged TV’s.

Scissor
Reply to  Ron Long
September 4, 2023 6:38 am

Tony Heller has been good at pointing out this mentality among politicians and the media. I discovered this morning that his WordPress blog seems to be out of commission. Was he hacked, attacked, chose to abandon it? Anyone know?

Scissor
Reply to  Charles Rotter
September 4, 2023 7:44 am

I don’t do X you see.

Thanks for the info.

Reply to  Scissor
September 4, 2023 9:52 am

You need to write this in proper MSM style – “I don’t do X (the platform formerly known as Twitter) you see.”

People who follow the MSM have such short attention spans that they don’t know that X is the platform formerly known as Twitter.

Reply to  Charles Rotter
September 4, 2023 9:35 am

Thanks for the link/image I missed that post before he was taken offline.

Reply to  Charles Rotter
September 4, 2023 6:14 pm

I’ve passed this on elsewhere where there were enquiries about his site. Thanks for the update.

rah
Reply to  Scissor
September 5, 2023 10:41 pm

Back online now. A few years ago, about the same time Anthony was having problems with WordPress, Tony was informed that the web hosting service would discontinue his blog. Another offered to host the blog free of charge and Tony took him up on it.

Now according to Tony:

“The previous hosting service ran out of disk space and deleted tens of thousands of image files without my permission. They also failed to keep a backup of the site before deleting the images. Then they shut the blog down completely and sent me this message :

“(you are) very illustrative of why the country so hates right-wing influencers who can’t see beyond their own grift and selfish hypocrisy”

I am now working with a respectable hosting service, but it will take some time to restore the tens of thousands of damaged blog posts. Thanks for your patience.”

Tony told me via email that he thinks the guy is “losing his mind”.

Obviously he has a lot of work ahead of him recovering the years of accumulated data and posts.

Reply to  Ron Long
September 4, 2023 9:43 am

Took a little while to figure out that CTM stands for Charles The Moderator. What is it with people lacing their writings and conversations with alphabet soup?

Reply to  Steve Case
September 4, 2023 10:00 am

It’s the texting culture – minimize the number of keystrokes on the blasted mobile “keyboard”.

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
September 4, 2023 11:20 am

My dear sweet granddaughter (Starts UW Madison tomorrow) showed me how to talk into the thing and it copies what you say quite nicely. Were I to intone Charles the moderator it would get it right, Uh would it put caps for proper names? Maybe.

Reply to  Steve Case
September 6, 2023 11:38 am

You have to speak like a robot, then the robots can understand you.
Turns out what we call speaking like a robot means enunciating every letter and syllable.

Ron Long
Reply to  Steve Case
September 4, 2023 3:57 pm

Steve, I never will forget CTM, because he “snipped” me twice. And appeared to enjoy it. Just saying.

Reply to  Steve Case
September 6, 2023 11:37 am

OMG, WTF?
GAL!

KevinM
Reply to  Ron Long
September 4, 2023 11:55 am

He is rich, comfortable and above the law. So are his kids. Relatively speaking, yeah maybe he’s smarter.

Reply to  Ron Long
September 6, 2023 11:52 am

The author of this critique has greatly understated the case regarding this person’s work.

Many are hesitant to say it, but here it is: The alarmists are 100% wrong about nearly every word and every detail they spew.

It is against that truism that such tripe as Crockford writes must be analyzed.

denny
September 4, 2023 6:27 am

When are they going to drop the fossil fuels association? All that is needed to become a skeptic is a little basic research into the literature and knowledge of history to realize the establishment narrative has major holes in it. Most who are critical of the so called deniers have never taken a deep dive into the subject matter. Even if they had, they have become so brainwashed, the actual facts would go in one ear and out the other. After bouncing around inside the vacuum for awhile.

Reply to  denny
September 4, 2023 6:36 am

“Most who are critical of the so called deniers have never taken a deep dive into the subject matter.”

Exactly!

Tom Halla
Reply to  denny
September 4, 2023 6:38 am

While a preaching religion can get by without a god, it needs a devil, and fossil fuel companies are The Church of Satan. A hard green believes as much in the everpresent malign influence of Big Oil and Big Coal as much as James I believed in witchcraft being the cause of then current evils.

KevinM
Reply to  Tom Halla
September 4, 2023 12:02 pm

While a preaching religion can get by without a god, it needs a devil,
Sounds like a quote. Who? Or is it an original?

Tom Halla
Reply to  KevinM
September 4, 2023 12:06 pm

It is a paraphrase, and I do not remember where I saw it.

MarkW
Reply to  denny
September 4, 2023 10:18 am

The schools have been conditioning children to just accept what those in “authority” tell you for over a generation now.

KevinM
Reply to  MarkW
September 4, 2023 12:03 pm

for over a generation

Reply to  MarkW
September 6, 2023 11:48 am

She is very young, totally brainwashed, thinks science is a list of facts.
Consequently, she is starting from the assumption that anyone who doubts any detail of the alarmist narrative is wrong and wicked.
She also starts from a place of assuming she is very smart and anyone who does not see things her way is either uneducated, stupid, or both.

It may well be the case that she honestly believes what she is saying, but it hardly matters.
She is not a physical scientist at all, and yet she purports to stand in judgement of people who are highly educated in the physical sciences.
Long story short, she has no idea what she is talking about, everything she says is nonsense of the worst sort, and it may be the case that she will never accept the actual truth of that which she is so woefully in error regarding.

She is a garbage in/garbage out machine with legs.

Robert A. Taylor
Reply to  denny
September 4, 2023 2:14 pm

At first I thought it was a spoof of Education Speak. Obviously a student of the great Prof. Erwin Corey, the world’s foremost authority.

Ian_e
Reply to  denny
September 5, 2023 1:38 am

Gosh: have you met my Mother-in-Law?

johndglobal
September 4, 2023 6:28 am

For a moment I did a double take before double checking to confirm that the paper’s author is not Susan Crockford of polar beam fame. You might want to make this clearer.

andersm0
Reply to  johndglobal
September 4, 2023 7:41 am

I also thought it was Susan Crockford from Polar Bear Science and was completely baffled at the outset. It took a triple take to figure it out.

Reply to  johndglobal
September 4, 2023 8:08 am

Susan Crockford would never write such obscure, jargon-laden drivel.

Denis
Reply to  Graemethecat
September 4, 2023 9:45 am

Yes, but you must admit that Susannah Crockford is really really smart as can be seen by her use of phrases and words most of us have never heard of such as “incommensurability of paradigms” and “agnotology.” Then again, perhaps her goal was not to inform us of any new science but to simply impress anybody who tries to read her stuff that she is really really smart.

Reply to  Denis
September 4, 2023 10:08 am

She must be a Ph.D. – probably in epistemology.

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
September 4, 2023 10:52 am

Is that a big word for p*ss-taking? 😉

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
September 4, 2023 1:07 pm

Philosophy majors have been using the word ‘epistemology’ for generations in a hopeless attempt to impress any of their acquaintances that will give them the time of day with their intelligence.

However, since the ‘60’s, when most university philosophy departments were subverted by Marxism, the term has devolved further to become a reliable indicator that the reader is about to buried under an avalanche of post-modern nonsense.

old cocky
Reply to  Frank from NoVA
September 4, 2023 4:36 pm

Perhaps WUWT’s philosophy major and sociologist will be along to provide a translation.

Reply to  old cocky
September 4, 2023 7:12 pm

Or the Eng-Lit failure that can’t write a coherent sentence. !

old cocky
Reply to  bnice2000
September 4, 2023 11:44 pm

Too many Burning Man festivals.

BCBill
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
September 4, 2023 11:48 pm

Epistemology is the study of knowledge by those not bright enough to apply the scientific method to the study of knowledge.

QODTMWTD
Reply to  Denis
September 4, 2023 10:22 am

They pretend that incoherence is depth. Readers either give up, on the assumption that they’ll never penetrate the work of such a massive intellect, or they dismiss the whole topic in disgust, as unintelligible drivel. Either way she goes unchallenged.

Tom Halla
Reply to  Denis
September 4, 2023 12:09 pm

She is playing New Age gobbledegook buzzword bingo. Particularly if she uses variant definitions of the words.

Reply to  Denis
September 4, 2023 12:11 pm

I have noticed a strong characteristic of professors in my career in engineering, and these climastrologists exhibit it in spades. They simply must always speak in the most obscurantist, tortured manner in order to impress their peers and we Hoi polloi with their (self assigned) vast erudition. I have even heard other professors say “WTF did he just say?” In reality, they take their discussion cues from Lewis Carroll– Jaberwocky.

Reply to  slowroll
September 4, 2023 12:35 pm

But the really good ones can explain relativity to a 6 year old.
Like the Meme says, “Talk to me like I took a COVID vaccination in exchange for a doughnut”.

Reply to  slowroll
September 4, 2023 6:21 pm

“Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
      The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
      The frumious Bandersnatch!”

“And hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
      Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!”

Dr. Bob
Reply to  Graemethecat
September 4, 2023 12:48 pm

There is no better way to obfuscate an issue than to use multisyllabic words that even educated people need to look up to understand their meaning. This article has it covered in spades.

abolition man
Reply to  johndglobal
September 4, 2023 8:10 am

Apparently a rose by any other name is not always so sweet! Please do not blaspheme against the wonderful and highly informative Susan Crockford by thinking her responsible for this tripe!
Oh, Susannah!!

Rick C
Reply to  johndglobal
September 4, 2023 9:15 am

I, too, thought it was Susan and my next thought was check if it was published on April 1st. Seemed like a brilliant bit of satire at first. Turns out it’s just another meaningless waste of digital bits from another academic desperate to publish something.

Susan Crockford
Reply to  johndglobal
September 4, 2023 3:18 pm

Um, me too! Especially since I once briefly considered changing my name from Susan to Susannah (during a quasi-midlife crisis on my 40th birthday) when I found out I had essentially been named after the new Queen’s corgie named ‘Susan’ (very common the year I was born, 1954: David Attenborough’s daughter is also Susan, born the same year).

michael hart
Reply to  johndglobal
September 5, 2023 10:19 am

Yes, johndglobal, I initially made the same error before thinking that this was completely out of character for several reasons.

It’s also why I generally try to avoid sarcasm or non-obvious irony when on the interwebs. It’s just too easy for others to grasp the wrong end of the stick.

Reply to  johndglobal
September 6, 2023 11:55 am

I looked up her name and found out immediately that she is most definitely a different person.
Whenever you read something that does not seem to jibe with what you know about a person, stop and find out what you may be missing. Usually it is either sarcasm or a different person.

Ron Clutz
Reply to  johndglobal
September 6, 2023 2:35 pm

I think the paper is an AI bot production and “Susannah” is a deliberate misdirection.

johndglobal
September 4, 2023 6:29 am

sorry “polar bear” – autocorrect strikes again

September 4, 2023 6:31 am

Which makes better sense?
A) Susannah Crockford’s fancy words
or
B) “The climate agenda is a hoax.” (Vivek Ramaswamy)

I think B.

Reply to  David Dibbell
September 4, 2023 7:02 am

It might have helped Susannah Crockford’s case if the hadn’t stated that she was investigating a specific group, then proceeded to wander about all over the damn place, drawing on extremely tenuous connections to make some dubious point. Honestly, it was very difficult to follow at times – her habit of jumping to a new target of anti-sceptic bile without offering much in the way of a connection other than an implied ‘they’re all at it together’ made it extremely difficult to work out what points she was actually trying to make, especially when she wandered completely off course into an anti-Trump diatribe. No, not worth the effort – a confused and meandering mess.

Reply to  David Dibbell
September 4, 2023 7:10 am

“Susannah Crockford’s fancy words”

She did use a lot of fancy words. Was all that necessary?

Keitho
Editor
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 4, 2023 7:23 am

A well known tactic of those who know little about the subject.

Reply to  Keitho
September 4, 2023 9:46 am

I thought that yesterday’s Technobollocks was indecipherable but this is world championship standard

MarkW
Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 4, 2023 10:21 am

If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS.

KevinM
Reply to  David Dibbell
September 4, 2023 12:08 pm

Which makes better sense?” … you set a low bar for VR

James Snook
September 4, 2023 6:32 am

“Theoretically drawing from anthropological work on the incommensurability of paradigms, the argument is based on a tripartite construction of denial as produced through an interaction of a cultural norm of radical empiricism, a political-media ecosystem funded by fossil fuel companies, and a cosmological schema derived from conservative white evangelicalism.”

BAFFLEGAB ON STEROIDS!

magesox
Reply to  James Snook
September 4, 2023 6:37 am

You beat me to it James! What utter garbage. Pompous word salad. What on Earth does it mean?
The British satirical magazine Private Eye has, or at least used to have, a section entitled “Pseuds’ Corner”. This is precisely the sort of pseudo-intellectual nonsense that they would print there.

Reply to  magesox
September 4, 2023 6:48 am

Private Eye is a captured organisation. They would no more print this as pseudoscience than the Guardian would, unfortunately.

KevinM
Reply to  magesox
September 4, 2023 12:12 pm

Captured.

Reply to  James Snook
September 4, 2023 7:26 am

“Theoretically drawing from anthropological work on… How does one do such a thing? There is a brand of scholars whose vocabularies are too unwieldy for their mediocre intellects.

Reply to  Gary Pearse
September 6, 2023 12:03 pm

I agree, she fails third grade grammar with this sentence fragment.

Reply to  James Snook
September 4, 2023 7:34 am

I thought BigOilBob wrote that.

James Snook
Reply to  mkelly
September 4, 2023 7:45 am

On second thoughts it may be a wind up piece produced by AI

andersm0
Reply to  James Snook
September 4, 2023 7:47 am

She took every 20 dollar word she knew and worked it into that ferociously unreadable sentence. That’s a pathetic ploy to let people know she’s educated so has to be believed by that fact alone.

KevinM
Reply to  andersm0
September 4, 2023 12:13 pm

Thesaurus online.

captainjtiberius
Reply to  James Snook
September 4, 2023 8:47 am

The words are the illusion of someone who considers themselves as infinitely more intelligent than those of us science nerds who question everything. She, obviously, looks down on anyone who questions the “narrative”. They compare skeptics to Holocaust deniers, but they appear to justify a similar fate for “nonbelievers”.

Reply to  James Snook
September 4, 2023 8:52 am

she’s projecting

Reply to  James Snook
September 4, 2023 9:00 am

Is it one of those spoof entries into serious journal that is deliberately tosh? It was incomprehensible…

Reply to  James Snook
September 4, 2023 1:05 pm

Written by an uninformed non-artificial non-intelligence.

Reply to  James Snook
September 4, 2023 1:29 pm

99% certain she used the following methodology:

  1. Ask ChatGPT to write a sentence.
  2. Ask it to make the sentence longer, more formal, and academic sounding with as many pretentious words as possible.
  3. Repeat step 2 about a dozen times.
September 4, 2023 6:34 am

So what happened to Tony Heller’s realclimatescience.com ?

A frenzy of archiving at Wayback over August ending on 29th. The site is now disappeared.

Reply to  It doesnot add up
September 4, 2023 6:41 am
Reply to  Charles Rotter
September 7, 2023 2:21 pm

No, it was more like the server host hates conservatives as they deleted most of his database without his knowledge and then just deleted his website without warning.

LINK

Reply to  It doesnot add up
September 6, 2023 12:05 pm

He is back now.

September 4, 2023 6:34 am

When people refuse to debate an issue based on facts and logic, but rather just assume they are right and those who disagree are in some way defective, they are essentially admitting their beliefs are not the product of critical thinking but rather lazy, self-indulgent egotism.

Jack Eddyfier
Reply to  Andy Pattullo
September 4, 2023 6:50 am

It’s scarier than that. She’s a product of the Uni treadmill, which mass produces junk yet calls it “critical thinking”. This is what she thinks “critical thinking” is – what we read.

barryjo
Reply to  Jack Eddyfier
September 4, 2023 7:08 am

Someone should confiscate her thesaurus.

Reply to  Andy Pattullo
September 4, 2023 7:11 am

That describes climate change alarmists.

Reply to  Andy Pattullo
September 4, 2023 8:54 am

aka: magical thinking
Borne of chronic chemically induced depression
IOW: the words of a sleepwalking zombie

Reply to  Andy Pattullo
September 4, 2023 10:14 am

It is the nature of “belief” to ignore anything rational. By definition, belief can;t be supported by fact.

KevinM
Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
September 4, 2023 12:19 pm

“By definition, belief can;t be supported by fact”
Please supply the definition.I got:

Dictionary – Definitions from Oxford Languages
be·lief /bəˈlēf/
noun

  1. an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.

e.g. I believe I’ve written a resopnse to a comment on WUWT.

Jack Eddyfier
September 4, 2023 6:39 am

Nonsense must be inevitable in a a post-Postmodernist world where elites abandoned the concept of truth for tribalism, but the kids are still forced to use words such as “epistemological”, and “epistemic” in their Uni essays! Oh, the irony! does not do it justice. Postmodernism had something called the autocritique, post-Postmodernism seems to have the auto-deconstruction instead = it is so, self-evidently BS, that one does not even need the BS explained. One can read it for oneself. Or is “auto-deconstruction”, just called auto-destruction?

KevinM
Reply to  Jack Eddyfier
September 4, 2023 12:31 pm

post-Postmodern”: I wish academia would come up with a term for that, but it would require modernist thinking?
When the WW2-worshipping, Kennedy-loving, Beatles-listenig generation that builds too-big, too-heavy, too-single-purposed, environmentally unfriendly stuff-that-just-works finally passes away, the world could be in serious trouble. I envision a Western world staring empty-headed at the blank screens of cell phones, not understanding how to put new electrons inside.

September 4, 2023 7:00 am

From the article: “From the outset, the framing of climate skepticism as “denial” is problematic. This term inherently dismisses any counter-arguments and paints a vast group with a broad brush, without delving into the complexities of their beliefs.”

That’s the whole point. They want to dismiss the critics and their criticism without having to address the criticism. That’s the easy way to “win” an argument. That’s what people who don’t have any answers do.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 4, 2023 10:16 am

Usually, argument ad hominem is the last recourse of those whose argument(s) have failed. In the case of climate science, it is the first recourse, before even arguing.

strativarius
September 4, 2023 7:02 am

“”Climate denial continues as a cultural epistemology for anthropogenic climate change in the United States, despite worsening impacts.””

Post modern word salad

Or to the lay man, a load of old bollox. But to some it probably sounds impressive

Reply to  strativarius
September 4, 2023 7:45 am

Pompous, arrogant and privileged.

strativarius
Reply to  Richard Page
September 4, 2023 8:46 am

Exactly, pretentious even

Reply to  strativarius
September 4, 2023 10:17 am

And, considering the international base of this site, it isn’t just the US.

September 4, 2023 7:05 am

‘… (agnotology) the argument is made that this literature as it pertains to climate denial does not go far enough in accounting for the persistence of the rejection of climate science.”

When the literature on behavior of garden variety ignoramuses “does not go far enough… ” that is a strong ‘tell’ for an analyst who isn’t ignorant that there is actually a lot more to this issue than first thought. She should have been piqued to look deeper and see who these ‘ignoramuses’ are. She would have found they included a number celebrated scientists, including Nobel laureate physicists, etc. Now you would have to do a real scholarly study, which strong ‘tells’ from her piece show her incapable of

bpkeyes
September 4, 2023 7:08 am

Hi Charles, an efficacious vaccine against taking this latest foray into heresiomachy seriously is simply to note that:

  1. Susannah Crockford and friend of the site Susan Crockford are different people
  2. The article unironically cites Oreskes & Conway 2010

Need I say more? No. No, I need not.

Rud Istvan
September 4, 2023 7:33 am

A lot of fancy stuff saying nothing whatsoever.
Susannah, what you may not be aware of is that:

  1. None of the climate expert predictions have come true.
  2. The climate models do not work as advertised.
  3. Renewables are intermittent so net zero is impossible.

Ridicule is appropriate.

KevinM
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 4, 2023 12:37 pm

“None of the climate expert predictions have come true.”

Oh, come on, at least one climate expert must have predicted tooth paste and clean underwear tomorrow morning.

MB1978
September 4, 2023 7:37 am

All people in the expert(r)us segment that uses the word climatedenier, don´t want to discuss climatechanges one on one in an open debate, that´s a psychological fact. Why, because wordsalad is simply tools that is easy to prove false.

MB1978
Reply to  MB1978
September 4, 2023 8:03 am

… and this is one of the topics they are affraid of to discuss, VCA and “Offspring Observability”.

Climate Action for (My) Children | Environmental and Resource Economics (springer.com)

The conclusion … scared children is useful tools.

MB1978
Reply to  MB1978
September 4, 2023 8:08 am

put in a (My) between The and conclusion above … !!

Reply to  J Boles
September 4, 2023 11:26 am

Mann wrote, and is promoting another book, according to the link.

I haven’t seen the book, but my guess is it will be full of lies and distortions about the Earth’s climate and weather and temperatures. That’s his signature: Big Lies.

It’s just like MSNBC going to the completely discredited ultra-racist, Al Sharpton, on race matters, and they go to the completely discredited Michael Mann on climate matters.

I guess MSNBC didn’t hear that Michael Mann is a disgrace to the profession. They have something in common with Mann: MSNBC is a disgrace to the journalism profession. We have disgraceful “journalism” interviewing disgraceful climate change liars. The only thing you can get out of something like this is a pack of lies. And that’s what we got from them.

Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 4, 2023 12:28 pm

There is no longer a “journalism profession.” College curricula in journalism today teach creative writing and propaganda techniques to social activists, then load them up with the accepted social narratives. Absolutely untrustworthy. I don’t think today’s graduates could cover a car wreck and get the basic facts right. They’d focus on the gender, race and wealth disparity of the drivers as the two cars just experienced an “intersectionality” (i.e., collision).

September 4, 2023 7:45 am

If Ms. Crockford’s intention was producing an imitation of Chat GPT she nailed it.

MarkW
Reply to  Thomas Finegan
September 4, 2023 10:29 am

Maybe it was a Chat GPT imitation of Ms. Crockford?

Reply to  Thomas Finegan
September 4, 2023 1:10 pm

a non-artificial non-intelligence… dressed up in mindless words.

bpkeyes
Reply to  Thomas Finegan
September 5, 2023 9:54 pm

Scientists predict it will be years before Artificial Stupidity is able to produce anything this good. I’m afraid there are still some things humans are better at.

Machnee
September 4, 2023 8:07 am

When I ask any of the writers who push the “climate crisis” agenda and attack “deniers” I ask for proof that CO2 causes temperature change. I specifically ask for a MEASUREMENT of CO2 causing significant temperature change. Nobody replies.
So I have no problem calling the “climate crisis” imaginary and a diversion from the real problems such as out of control debt and the Covid Scam.

Reply to  Machnee
September 4, 2023 11:38 am

“When I ask any of the writers who push the “climate crisis” agenda and attack “deniers” I ask for proof that CO2 causes temperature change. I specifically ask for a MEASUREMENT of CO2 causing significant temperature change. Nobody replies.”

They don’t reply because they don’t know the answer.

Nobody, not one person on this Earth can tell you how much warmth a given amount of CO2 will add to the Earth’s atmosphere. That’s NOBODY.

All the hysteria about CO2 is based on nothing but speculation.

Human-caused Climate Change is the biggest science fraud in human history. There are a lot of factors contributing to this, but evidence of CO2 overheating or even discernably heating the Earth’s atmosphere, is not one of them.

The Scam is an amazing process to watch. Unprecedented. Extremely harmful to human beings who fall for the scam. And pretty damn harmful to those who don’t.

Reply to  Machnee
September 4, 2023 12:20 pm

I have often asked the same thing, and the response is usually fishmouthing, and mumbles about “the experts.” I ask which experts have empirically demonstrated the power of the magic molecule, and the conversation ends.

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alastairgray29yahoocom
September 4, 2023 8:29 am

What a ghastly person this is
Pig ignorant and solid ivory between the ears. So sure of the garbage she has been fed all her life that she can not see that there may be more than one way of looking at a situation. I can forgive her most of that but her massacre of the English language is unforgiveable. She is truly Kamala-esque in her corruption of language to obscure meaning.
A social an medical anthropologist – University of Exeter so no surprise there as it is a hotbed of wokery , pseudoscience and quaint “socialscientists”

Reply to  alastairgray29yahoocom
September 4, 2023 9:00 am

so you’ve met Tim Lenton then, of Exeter’s Climate dept.
We see his name round here quite often

I have (virtually) met him, via the Futurelearn platform.
scarred for life – he’s a lot like the unspeakable and unstoppable Chris Stark
(who I have met in person)

Reply to  Peta of Newark
September 4, 2023 10:32 am

Regrettably, Peta, I don’t live in the green and sceptered isle, only vists from time to time so my wife can see her homeland again. Who are Tim Lenton Chris Stark? What are their positions of prominence such that I might care?

Reply to  Retired_Engineer_Jim
September 4, 2023 11:24 am

The Chris Stark threw me but I assume it’s this one not the BBC Chap

John Hultquist
September 4, 2023 8:30 am

 “ethnographic engagement in the US South” — Arizona, Louisiana, and Missouri – – Say what?

Hey Y’all, Susannah doesn’t know the difference between Schist and Shinola, or even Kudzu.

Others have already mentioned her sesquipedalian style. 🙂

MarkW
Reply to  John Hultquist
September 4, 2023 10:34 am

Most people consider Arizona to be part of the SouthWest.
Culturally, very different from areas traditionally considered to be “South”.

She’s attempting to “culturally” analyze these people, and she doesn’t know something that basic?

old cocky
Reply to  John Hultquist
September 4, 2023 4:30 pm

Isn’t Missouri considered mid-Weat?
Did Texas and Florida miss out on being US South?

My brain hurts.

September 4, 2023 8:31 am

Not to be confused with the great Susan Crockford.

strativarius
Reply to  K.F.Smith
September 4, 2023 8:47 am

But I bet that was the idea

Neil Lock
Reply to  strativarius
September 4, 2023 9:28 am

Susannah Crockford is to Susan Crockford as Strativarius is to Stradivarius. (No offence meant to Strativarius or to his violin!)

September 4, 2023 8:46 am

Excellent. From the very beginning the framing of climate change has been a rhetorical prop meme to create, engage and force a collective mentality viz. brainwashing … alternate universe as George Orwell’s “1984.” I recall very well from the very early times of the early 1970s when I was in grad school. Reference another recent article along the same lines in the Guardian in 2021 “Sixty years of climate change warnings: the signs that were missed (and ignored)” link https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/05/sixty-years-of-climate-change-warnings-the-signs-that-were-missed-and-ignored. However, this piece bemoans with the opposite read saying we totally missed the prop story and shoulda’ taken the advice being given. I prefer the Orwellian story line that we have been mind washed.

September 4, 2023 8:51 am

Not to be confused with the great Susan Crockford.

Susannah strikes me as one who is very impressed with herself and her use of the language. I guess she thinks this would remove all doubt as to her varacity:

“Theoretically drawing from anthropological work on the incommensurability of paradigms, the argument is based on a tripartite construction of denial as produced through an interaction of a cultural norm of radical empiricism” Nice try, Susannah. You might have succeeded in a career in comedy, but someone beat you to it:

Reading her abstract, I thought of someone who had a command of the language, only better, and funnier: Terence Aloysius ‘Slip’ Mahoney, Leo Gorcey, from the old East Side comedy.

Susannah, meet Slip.

Reply to  K.F.Smith
September 4, 2023 11:48 am

Susannah kind of reminded me of Pottie Tang:

“What does Pootie Tang say?

Pootie Tang : Baby, I’m going to sine your pitty on the runny kine! Pootie Tang : Sa da tay! Pootie Tang : See, my damie, Pootie Tang don’t wa-da-tah to the shama cow… ’cause thats a cama cama leepa-chaiii, dig? Pootie Tang : Cole me on the panny sty.”

That’s one hell of a funny movie!

Reply to  Tom Abbott
September 4, 2023 11:55 am

Or George H.W. Bush, who said: “Na-ga-da”!

Meaning, “not going to do it”. In this case regarding rasing taxes, which he ended up raising anyway.

KevinM
Reply to  K.F.Smith
September 4, 2023 12:45 pm

I see a pressure cooked introvert quietly hunched at Google thesaurus seeking academic success as a path to validation.

September 4, 2023 8:58 am

Ah, a different Crockford!

Fran
September 4, 2023 9:09 am

I am surprised at the comments that discus the “substance” of Crockford’s bilge. Her language is straight from the Sokal Hoax.

https://www.sciencealert.com/cultural-studies-sokal-squared-hoax-20-fake-papers

September 4, 2023 9:12 am

I initially thought the article might have been an AI-generated spoof on current trends in academic, post-modernist logorrhea.

But no, she’s a real lecturer in anthropology at Exeter University, which has some sort of symbiotic relationship with the Met Office Hadley Centre next door. A few quotes plucked from the net will illustrate:

Professor Richard Betts Chair in Climate Impacts at the University of Exeter Head of Climate Impacts Research at the Met Office Hadley Centre

Exeter Climate Systems (XCS) is an innovative world leading centre in climate modelling

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has seven contributors from Exeter; more than any other university in the world

Get the picture?

Dr. Crockford seems to have an interest in saying bad things about religion (but, as far as I can see, she only focuses on Christianity): “Susannah Crockford is an anthropologist specializing in religion, ecology, and political economy. Her first monograph, Ripples of the Universe: Spirituality in Sedona, Arizona, is due out in May 2021 from the Class 200 list of the University of Chicago Press. Her work has also appeared in Religion Dispatches, Religion, State & Society, and The Immanent Frame

She also published her analysis of the Trump phenomenon:Republicanism as Bad Religion – The “Cult” of Trump in Contemporary American Politics
In short, given her location, she really has no choice but to adopt full-on authoritarian climatism, and given her academic “discipline” she really has no choice but adopt full-on authoritarian progressivism. And given her apparent lack of critical thought and objectivity, she really has no choice but to hide them under an absolute tsunami of opaquely impenetrable verbose jargon.

At least – as we used to say in the politically incorrect 1960s – it keeps her off the street.

Disputin
Reply to  Smart Rock
September 4, 2023 9:55 am

If we think about it, giving plenty of publicity to this mound of ordure could gain us more recruits. Some people might well be so appalled be its obvious dross that they might be driven to look into the truth. Well, it’s worth a try.

CD in Wisconsin
Reply to  Smart Rock
September 4, 2023 10:31 am

Smart Rock,

I was going to post a comment on the fact that she teaches anthropology at Exeter in the UK, but you beat me to it.

The paragraph below from her article seems to connect climate skepticism with capitalism (she calls it “racial capitalism”) and white supremacy. If I understand her correctly, she attempts to discredit skeptics by claiming the need to maintain “racist” or “white supremacist” capitalist systems (from which only whites apparently benefit in her mind) requires skepticism of the CAGW narrative.

“The silences of those living in the Global North on climate change mirror those other omissions produced through profiting from racial capitalism (Mills Citation
1997: 20). Race operates as a condition of vulnerability to both ongoing impacts and proposed solutions to anthropogenic climate change (Vaughn Citation
2022). Systemic white supremacy, referring to whiteness as a dominant category in a racialised hierarchical structure of capitalism (not the behaviour of individual white supremacists), coproduced with colonialism the socioeconomic conditions of domination underlying anthropogenic climate change. Racial capitalism generated an ideology of freedom for white people, and most of all for white, wealthy men. But for white people to enjoy this freedom, they have to deny its nature because ‘very few people willingly embrace what they perceive to be evil’ (Stovall Citation
2021: 7). The prosperity that bought this freedom sustains a sense of innocence that absolves hegemonic whiteness and masculinity. Anthropogenic climate change entails an existential threat for which systemic white supremacy has no epistemological space. Those who benefit the most from racial capitalism have the most to gain from refusing to acknowledge this threat.”

In a nutshell, she attempts to discredit climate skepticism with standard leftist political narratives as well as with anthropology and sociology. Is she even aware that this evidence even exists to support the skeptics position? I will hazard a guess and say no.

Reply to  Smart Rock
September 4, 2023 10:36 am

Yes, she fits in well in academia.

Dave Andrews
Reply to  Smart Rock
September 5, 2023 7:29 am

You missed James Dyke from Exeter who regularly writes articles for the UK i newspaper and whose recently published book ‘Fire,Storm and Flood:The violence of climate change’ gives you an idea of the content of those articles 🙂

September 4, 2023 9:13 am

“Educated beyond her intellectual means”.
George Jonas.

September 4, 2023 10:07 am

In which learned journal was this research published?

BTW, with regard to “…a cultural norm of radical empiricism, a political-media ecosystem funded by fossil fuel companies, and a cosmological schema derived from conservative white evangelicalism”:
(a) anyone who knows me would laugh at the idea of my being radical. I do, however, set great store by rational empiricism;
(b) I’m still waiting for that check from any company associated with the fossil-fuel industry;
(c) well. I’m white, and I’m Christian, so I guess I don’t fit into all three of her criteria. (She did use “and”.)

MarkW
September 4, 2023 10:15 am

Those on the left find it impossible to believe that there are any good reasons for disagreeing with them. Thus they invent ever more fanciful and convoluted reasons why these others fail to follow the true faith.

Look at all the weird and convoluted reasons for why the masses fail to understand the wisdom of communism.

kwinterkorn
September 4, 2023 10:17 am

Crockford is only talking to other church members who have deep faith in the climate alarmism belief

She “knows” the Truth, and is trying to explain to her fellow church members how the devil (aka regard for real world data as opposed to hallowed climate models) has misled the infidels.

QODTMWTD
September 4, 2023 10:34 am

To quote Stephen Fry: “It is complete loose stool water. It is arse-gravy of the worst kind.” Sure, he was speaking of The DaVinci Code. The sentiment still applies here.

Mr Ed
September 4, 2023 10:41 am

This gal is on Utube–>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip3dWshlPXw

I made it thru a couple of minutes and just on gut feel she’s a piece of work..

John Hultquist
Reply to  Mr Ed
September 4, 2023 7:41 pm

Mr Ed,
Please refrain if ever again you get the urge to direct us to such garbage.

Mr Ed
Reply to  John Hultquist
September 4, 2023 8:41 pm

Sorry, I could only stomach a couple of minutes, but that was enough to
make more than make up my mind on the level of this gals credibility.
Was “piece of work” an understatement?

KevinM
September 4, 2023 11:52 am

Theoretically drawing from anthropological work on the incommensurability of paradigms…
Garbage writing style. Using longer words increases “written on grade level” scoring, but using longer words should also allow the writer to express more thoughts more precisely. The word use quoted is obvious thesaurus-mining for the sake of dressing up opinions as scholarly work.

September 4, 2023 12:05 pm

I just read this woman’s curriculum vitae. She is a failed academic who chases an eclectic range of subjects with no verifiable knowledge of any of them. Her list of publications is laughable, and she is employed as a part-time, non-tenured adjunct instructor. She gets on by uncritically regurgitating the party line on any given subject. (WARNING: Students should steer clear of her classes)

That third quotation of hers listed above is an incomprehensible run-on sentence of pseudo-academic gobbledygook. I pity her family, if she has one.

KevinM
Reply to  pflashgordon
September 4, 2023 6:57 pm

Easy A?

Reply to  KevinM
September 4, 2023 8:51 pm

I found dumb instructors’ courses to be the hardest to obtain a good grade in. They don’t have the intellect to understand different arguments/perspectives (or where you went wrong in a technical course/math problem) so unless you can force yourself to align perfectly with their idiot mindset, your grade is likely to suffer.

September 4, 2023 12:27 pm

She apparently never heard of her late countryman Winston Churchill’s admonition to use simple short English words. He who was one the greatest speakers/writers of all time.

Boff Doff
September 4, 2023 12:30 pm

Definitely a Good Brainbox. Work indistinguishable from that produced by:

https://www.elsewhere.org/pomo/

At some point Liberal Arts grads will be recognised for what they are and treated accordingly. Until then we can only marvel at their gormless addiction to faith.

Reply to  Boff Doff
September 4, 2023 1:27 pm

Google finds her on the Religious Studies Project.

The cult of climatism fits well in her ignorance of any sort of rational science.

KevinM
Reply to  Boff Doff
September 4, 2023 7:00 pm

What happens when every kid goes to college? Who wouldn’t want a dog walker with a PhD if the PhD is willing to walk the dog for even money?

KevinM
September 4, 2023 12:54 pm

Quoting comments:
she teaches anthropology at Exeter in the UK,
plus
wandered completely off course into an anti-Trump diatribe
equals
Huh?

So weird, don’t foreign countries have the things to worry about than a US president 3 years out-of-office?

KevinM
Reply to  KevinM
September 4, 2023 12:57 pm

the->other. Spell correct appears to be working too hard today.

Bob
September 4, 2023 1:40 pm

What a bunch of gibberish. I am not impressed.

September 4, 2023 7:07 pm

Epistemological

Does that mean they were totally pissed very drunk at the time of writing?

Just plucking random words out of the CO2?

September 5, 2023 2:49 am

I think during the writing all this garbage, she identified as a white Anglo Celtic male….to get right into character and “experience” the denial on another more cosmic plane…

John XB
September 5, 2023 6:25 am

Climate denier: someone who denies that the climate can change unless Mankind burns fossil fuels.

Alternative description: Climate stasis believer.

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