Green Blob, edited. Original by Josh

CPAC Australia – Coal Overboard, Nuclear to Appease the Greens?

Essay by Eric Worrall

To say I’m disappointed with this year’s Australian CPAC would be an understatement.

On a positive note, CPAC USA Chairman Matt Schlapp and and former Trump acting US Attorney General Matthew Whitaker brought terrific messages of hope, though mostly avoided energy issues. Jay Aeba, Chairman of CPAC Japan, also gave an impassioned speech about why freedom and respect for the individual matters.

There were strong appeals for energy sanity from Alan Jones, a prominent Aussie conservative commentator – an appeal for mainstream Aussie conservatives to wake up and listen (“where are they”?).

ADH-TV speakers reminded us of the terrible treatment of the Jirrbal people by wind farm developers – an issue WUWT covered in July. The objections of the Jirrbal people to the destruction of their rainforest in my opinion are being ignored.

What was painfully missing from Australian CPAC 2023 was any indication mainstream Aussie conservatives have the balls to stand up against the green blob.

Keith Pitt, formerly a staunch coal defender, who has a coal mine in his own region, said not one word about the need for more coal. Keith’s talk was how coal plants could be replaced by nuclear reactors, which would avoid the need for new transmission lines.

Barnaby Joyce, former leader of the National Party, declared his vehement opposition to green energy. But I’m not sure his new found opposition to renewables is credible. As leader of the party in 2021 Joyce declared his support for Prime Minister Scott Morrison’s renewable driven Net Zero, a desperate and futile attempt to prevent election defeat by lurching left. In 2016, Barnaby Joyce was guest of honour at the launch of the White Rock Wind Farm. Now Joyce is talking like he always hated renewables. Make of that what you will.

Former Prime Minister Tony Abbott, who in 2022 CPAC Australia brought everyone to their feet when he said “yes I am a climate skeptic”, gave an emasculated speech about why everyone should join the party of their choice – but avoided anything which might have sounded like criticism of the new direction his party has taken on energy issues.

Why do I have a problem with the Aussie conservative switch to support for nuclear?

My problem is, they are not talking about supporting nuclear because it is the best choice, or because it will bring down energy prices. They want to support nuclear because they’re desperately trying to appease inner city greens, with a low carbon “solution” they hope their own supporters will swallow.

To give some insight into how absurd the Aussie mainstream conservative position is, in July, the current conservative mainstream opposition speaker Peter Dutton gave a ridiculous speech in which he suggested using nuclear power to firm renewables.

Opposition leader Peter Dutton’s plan is to use the most inflexible baseload power system, nuclear power, to smooth the volatile ups and downs of a large renewable fleet.

This energy policy is a Frankenstein monster of an energy policy, a political construct rather than a sound engineering blueprint. It cannot possibly work, without wasting gargantuan amounts of electricity. It cannot deliver lower energy prices. In my opinion this Frankenstein policy is a desperate political attempt to create a vaguely plausible narrative which bridges the disunity in his own Liberal (Aussie Conservative) party, about how to respond to public belief in the climate crisis. This policy is not the action of a strong leader, it is the action of a weak leader, who is desperately trying to prevent his party from flying apart.

Speakers like high profile conservative commentator Alan Jones, our answer to Tucker Carlson – he knows the truth. Jones appealed for a “real conservative” politician to come forward and set this right. But nobody in mainstream parties answered his call. They’re too busy jumping at their own shadows, in case more of those terrifying independent green “Teals” appear and strip even more of their weakly held urban parliamentary seats.

The saddest part is, I believe Aussies are ready for a genuine change in direction.

Aussies are currently suffering skyrocketing energy prices, and spiralling inflation and mortgage rates. Industry is on the brink. Mortgage arrears are spiking, as people’s finances reach breaking point. On top of this, we’re likely on the brink of a deep recession, because the Australian economy is deeply intertwined with China’s train wreck of an economy.

The mistruths told by the current government during their election campaign, promises to be good economic custodians, and to bring down energy prices with more renewables, are wearing a bit thin.

A simple, clear spoken commitment to radically slash energy prices, to less than $0.10 / KWh by any means available, using brown coal, black coal, gas, nuclear, whatever works, would resonate with large numbers of Australian people. Right now the millions of ordinary people who have been driven to the brink of financial ruin would be receptive to such a message. Especially with the economics 101 explanation that alleviating energy inflation would also bring down mortgage rates, help secure jobs and prevent people from losing their homes.

But mainstream Aussie conservatives are simply too chicken to grasp the golden opportunity which is staring them in the face, just waiting for one of them to find some backbone and stand up against the greens in their own ranks, let alone outside the party.

Obviously I am only talking from an energy perspective. There were many inspirational speakers, like Pauline Hanson, leader of One Nation, Warren Mundine and liberal (Aussie Conservative) Senator Jacinta Price, aboriginal spokespeople who are vehemently opposed to the government’s attempt to introduce racial bias into the Aussie constitution. I was particularly moved by the courage of the founders of GiveSendGo, who supported the Canadian Truckers during Trudeau’s crackdown on free speech. There was a huge pushback against attempts to outlaw free speech in Australia, except by protected categories of people like academics and government spokesmen.

It was good to catch up with friends I met last year in CPAC 2022.

But on climate change and a return to energy rationality, a sane response to the energy policy madness currently threatening to drown the Australian economy, there was precious little room for optimism.

If you want to see for yourself what I saw, you can watch CPAC Australia 2023 recordings here.

Update (EW): h/t Brian – IMO Alan Jones’ hands are not clean when it comes to promoting affordable energy, a decade ago he joined hands with greens to crush coal seam gas development in Australia.

Update (EW): h/t KevinM, fixed a typo.

Update (EW): I should have mentioned Professor Ian Plimer gave an excellent speech about the madness of trying to control CO2 emissions, and promoted his latest books The Little Green Book for Anklebiters, The Little Green Book for Teens and The Little Green Book for Twenties and Wrinklies. Since Ian Plimer was sitting next to Rowan Dean of Sky News, I said “Why don’t you two write a collaboration book on climate change?”. Fingers crossed.

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August 20, 2023 6:19 pm

In some ways, you now know how Copernicus felt. At least you are not under house arrest yet.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 21, 2023 5:39 am

That must be the next item on the agenda.

August 20, 2023 6:22 pm

I agree with everything said here, though, I take exception to the airbrushing of Alan Jones’ popular and powerful opposition to coal seam gas exploration and development which did *enormous* damage to a vital and valuable industry in this country, and help set in motion the energy crisis we have today.
To his great credit, Jones has been brilliant on the issue of climate change and ruinous renewables ever since, but the damage in the minds of the public has already been done, and Jones played an enormous role in those crucially early years of the debate. He should’ve been an asset against such madness, but instead, he was a very persuasive enabler.

August 20, 2023 6:47 pm

My neighbour and his wife are in their mid 40s. They have just done a year tour around Australia with a van before their only child started school. The van was able to work off-grid if required. Good solar panels, good battery and plenty of gas. They were impressed with that feature.

They have since sold the van and are looking at putting that money into their house to reduce skyrocketing energy costs with a view to eventual retirement at the property. They can cram 12kW of solar panels onto the roof in not quite ideal orientation. They are also looking at a battery.

I have 6kW of solar panels on my roof that have been operating for 13 years so they sought my input on some of their installation details.

From an investment perspective, the two things I can be certain about are (a) Australia will go a long way down the transition path before sanity prevails (b) grid electricity costs will continue to trend strongly upward.. Anyone hoping for Australia to pivot back to new coal power generation will be waiting a very long time. So if you have a 20 year investment horizon and own a sun-blessed roof in Australia, then investing in solar/battery with the objective of eventually getting off grid is a good investment decision.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 20, 2023 7:42 pm

Yes many supporters of house-top solar panels ignore the requirement for grids to supply industry.

We can have both of course, but rooftop solar would then have to subsidise grid-scale dispatchable power for industry?

Reply to  RickWill
August 20, 2023 7:19 pm

I am an engineer who has qualifications and experience in thermodynamics and heat transfer and also know about the basics of electricity production. As an engineer I understand costs and further I have an MBA by which I understand economics and marketing. I know “climate science” (which is not science) is a scam. I thought I would take advantage of subsidies for solar panels. It was a big waste of money with zero return on investment over ten years. I have moved to a smaller residence which has 5kW solar panels. It hardly gives saving anything on electricity costs. There is no chance that I will invest in a battery for the panels. I will be dead before I a pay back for my capital. Beside that with the present battery technology there is a risk of fire. My first solar panels had burn marks at the connections and switch and had to be replaced, as did the inverter twice.
I recommend that no one should take up solar but pressure politicians to a) forget about CO2 b) allow full competition from any power source (including nuclear) c) stop all government subsidies and grants for all electricity production and transmission d) stop governments (including local) having anything to do with electric vehicles e) forget about hydrogen -it never will be viable.

Reply to  cementafriend
August 20, 2023 11:38 pm

Really appreciated hearing about your experience.
I was considering solar, only out of sheer desperation, but after reading this, and what Eric rightly noted above about hailstorms – which I never even considered before – I’m done with the idea.

Reply to  cementafriend
August 21, 2023 7:43 am

I’m off-grid electrically. The batteries are lead-acid, sealed glass mat types. No fire risk ffor me, well not the lithium type anyway.

The cost benefits for me were obvious. For a new connection to the farm gate I would had been up for over $100k in poles, wires, Tx an fees.

So for some the answer is off grid. But not for all, and selling excess solar back to the grid for cents when paying over a dollar a day for a connection fee is an obvious deal breaker. It’s 100% off-grid or don’t bother, the cost benefits are otherwise not to be found.

Reply to  RickWill
August 20, 2023 8:19 pm

I have a 5kw solar system, helps reduce bills a bit in summer when it can be used to run daytime air-conditioning,

Trouble is, I use a lot of electricity with heating, big computers, TV, hobbies that consume etc… so winter bills can be quite “annoying” 🙁

Most of the people around here use wood for heating, but I have nowhere to put a fireplace, and fetching, cutting and splitting firewood is not something I “do” 😉

Reply to  bnice2000
August 20, 2023 8:35 pm

Firewood warms you up 4 times –
cut down the tree
chop it up
tote & stack it
burn it & sit near it

Reply to  RickWill
August 21, 2023 8:50 am

My brother inlaw is an engineer. He had an off grid property at Upper Colo north of Sydney. A couple of years ago he moved closer in to the city, but had to settle for a smaller property.

I asked him what was the main reason for the change, thinking it would be to reduce his commute. No it was to get the hell away from solar panels & battery maintenance.

August 20, 2023 7:00 pm

how to respond to public belief in the climate crisis

Climate crisis please Eric.

And speaking of Canada’s Trudeau, it’s interesting that his last budget very quietly got on the SMR train –
The new program will provide $29.6 million over four years, to:

  • develop supply chains for SMR manufacturing and fuel supply and security to support the crucial elements necessary for Canada’s SMR industry to thrive; and 
  • fund research on safe SMR waste management solutions to ensure that SMRs, and the waste they generate, will be safe now and into the future.

I also read that the Aussie government’s main security and trading partners have also committed funding to SMRs –

Necessity, reality and rationality must eventually drive politicians everywhere to ditch the wind & solar boondoggle and give the ordinary citizenry what they want – affordable, reliable electricity supply.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 20, 2023 8:24 pm

Dutton’s current attitude leaves me no reason to vote Liberal.

One of the minor parties until the Libs wake up to reality.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Mr.
August 21, 2023 3:24 am

To parapharse Churchill ‘Politicians can be relied upon to do the right thing, after they have exhausted every single other alternative’.

Right now they and their chums have made fortunes out of driving energy prices up and building subsidy farms, but the electorate is willing to vote for anyone who will fix this mess and get energy prices down.

They have left it entirely too late, but SMRs and the nuclear renaissance are gathering momentum.

Smart Rock
August 20, 2023 7:16 pm

Nuclear power will never appease the greens. The anti-nuclear stance has been hard-wired into green brains for too long. If the net zero juggernaut reaches the point where they can’t charge their Teslas, laptops and iphones, they will just keep doubling down on wind and solar. And batteries, of course.

Mods – on the WUWT home page, the cookies warning won’t go away. I keep hitting the “Close and Accept” button but nothing happens. I’m using Firefox. A very minor irritation.

Reply to  Smart Rock
August 20, 2023 7:32 pm

Nobody knows the future. Imagine, campus liberals against free speech.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 23, 2023 7:28 am

Cache causing endless “Close or Accept” nags? No.

I’m using DuckDuckGo on Chrome and had the same issue yesterday, 8/22/23.

I use Norton Utilities that clean cache out frequently, checks disk status, cleans memory, and reorganizes the registry.

I was puzzled when it occurred as I had accepted WUWT’s cookie warning just the night before and usually, accepting limited cookies on WUWT is good for at least a week.

I stopped clicking “Accept” and ignored it. Today, I do not see any nagging. So, whatever it was got fixed?

Leo Smith
Reply to  Smart Rock
August 21, 2023 3:31 am

There are three sorts of Greens:

  • Those that genuinely believe the climate nonsense, for whom nuclear is logical.
  • Those who are making vast profits virtue signalling about climate, for whom nuclear would be an utter disaster.
  • Those who are just Mindless Marxist Morons, like Extinction Rebellion, who are mostly funded by the second group.

The reality is that the second two groups are actually a very vociferous minority.
In the end the silent majority is more about ‘net zero is a good idea, but not if it destroys our children’s futures more than climate change would’.

Reply to  Leo Smith
August 23, 2023 7:40 am

Yes and not quite.
I know several people who have made up their minds, obstinately refuse to entertain new ideas on which they’ve already decided or prejudged. Who much much prefer rumors from their distant friends rather than information/links from some unalarmed boring dry scientist.

As many have stated before, it is the people who already know everything they want to know, who don’t care if it is inaccurate that form the bulk of any ‘green’ party.

For them, pseudo science in short alarming sentences is greatly preferred over some scientist’s book length block printed analysis, or discussion from a weirdo who refuses to believe the oceans are boiling.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Smart Rock
August 21, 2023 4:31 am

I see the same problem. But only when on the home page, that message goes away when clicking on the story.

August 20, 2023 7:19 pm

Conservatives need to stand for something, not cave to the crazy Left !!! We need to be seen as having the common sense approach to solving problems, not cave to everything the Left wants in fear of being left behind. If you have a better alternative, say so, and defend it. I’m really getting tired of wishy washy conservatives, who’re conservative in name only. Grow a set !!!

Reply to  kentcm
August 20, 2023 7:33 pm

We need to be seen as
That decision belongs to the seer.

Reply to  kentcm
August 23, 2023 7:45 am

I’m really getting tired of wishy washy conservatives”

They are not conservatives and they’re not “wishy washy”. They are practicing democrats who pretend to be conservatives so they can get elected.

In the USA, most RINOS (Republican in name only) are full fledged members of the ‘uniparty’ run by democrats.

Outward proof are those legislators getting quite wealthy while in elected office.

August 20, 2023 7:23 pm

Typo: “” commentator – an an appeal for”

August 20, 2023 7:35 pm

This is why I say it is so important to inform/educate the the average guy. He is the one who is hurting and he hasn’t seen anything yet. If we can move the average guy the worthless political leaders will have to move our direction. If you think they are afraid of the greens just wait until the average guy finally wakes up.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 20, 2023 9:31 pm

You are absolutely right.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 21, 2023 4:36 am

That is difficult when he MSM continue to fill uniformed minds with mush. Yesterday, on the CBS Sunday morning news propaganda show, they reported the “climate change” scenario for the Maui fires a proven fact. They cited the hurricane as the source of the winds. No mention of anything other possibilities.

August 20, 2023 7:37 pm

One thing I find frustrating is how the mantra of “wind and solar with backup is sooooo much cheaper than fossil fuels” is repeated over and over. Do a quick search of why electricity prices are so high, you get a bunch of results saying because there isn’t ENOUGH wind and solar. It would be great if they could point to a real-world example of a 100% renewable grid and how cheap it is because of wind/solar and storage. So far as I am aware there are no good examples of larger grids where this really exits (possibly exception are places with a lot of hydro?). It has been shown when ff are used as backup it makes generation more expensive, and then they get blamed. As I’ve mentioned before I used to be pro renewables because I believed the hype. After the share of renewables continues to climb and so does the cost of everything, it makes even a left of center self-proclaimed environmentalist and longtime former resident of California second guess things.

Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 20, 2023 7:52 pm

Australia is probably one of the places best suitable for renewables I would imagine as there is plenty of empty space and sunshine, but if there is no economically viable storage solution (especially long-term) isn’t it irresponsible to push the transition in the hopes that this will be sorted out in the near future?

Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 20, 2023 8:38 pm

The phrase which comes to mind is “completely nuts”.

Or – “then a miracle happens”

August 20, 2023 8:33 pm

To give some insight into how absurd the Aussie mainstream conservative position is, in July, the current conservative mainstream opposition speaker Peter Dutton gave a ridiculous speech in which he suggested using nuclear power to firm renewables.

There is one simple reason for this – the fact ALL politicians (including the Libs) are either too lazy or too stupid to do the high school level work and look at the figures for 1, the real cost of ”renewables” – and that includes the economic, future prosperity and security costs, 2, that there is no empirical evidence that carbon dioxide emissions are the cause of the current ”warming” in the first place, and 3, even if they believe there is, given that Australia contributes <> 1% of those emissions, 1% of 1 degree C (over the last 100 years) is 0.01 degrees or 100th of one degree.
In other words the very notion of spending a trillion dollars to reach zero emissions (something which will never happen anyway) is so beyond stupid it should be treated with the contempt it deserves at every opportunity in the capitol.
If we assume co2 has caused 100% of the ”warming” we more likely will end up reducing the temperature of the planet by 1/200th of a degree sometime in the distant future.
So when someone in parliament squawks ”we are ”tackling climate change” someone should perhaps point out exactly what they are doing.
They are all terrified of being called climate deniers, or science deniers or of someone shoving some kind of chart which they don’t understand or have no capacity to verify under their noses. It’s just easier to join the climate club.
I don’t hold much hope of change.
PS. Let’s not forget the role that the CSIRO has in all this nonsense.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Mike
August 21, 2023 4:40 am

For politicians, with a very few exceptions, learning facts is a waste of time for them. Their main interest is seeing which way the polls lean so as to appeal to the most people in order to get reelected.

August 20, 2023 8:35 pm

Story Tip

Antarctic breaks COLD records

The -61.1C (-78F) at the Vito AWS, located on the Ross Ice Shelf, which broke its previous all-time minimum record of -60.6C (-77.1F) set in August 22, 2008; the -59.9C (75.8F) at Willie Field, located at Ross Island Vicinity, which bested the old benchmark of -56.9C (-70.4F) from August 7, 2001; and the -56.7C (70.1F) at Lorne, also sited on Ross Island, which felled the -54.9C (-66.8F) set on July 17, 2010.

Antarctica Breaks *Multiple* All-Time Low Temperature Records; + The BBC Attempts To Rewrite The History Books – Electroverse

Chris Hanley
August 20, 2023 9:40 pm

Aussies are currently suffering skyrocketing energy prices, and spiralling inflation and mortgage rates. Industry is on the brink. Mortgage arrears are spiking, as people’s finances reach breaking point

Mortgage arrears are often self-inflicted (IMO as an octogenarian); the cash rate in the late 1980s hit 18%, similarly the current inflation rate at 6% a drop from pushing 8% a few months ago is higher than the RBA target of 2% – 3% but not historically exceptional.
The most dangerous economic indicator for Australia is the stalling and now falling productivity about which the past chairman of the Productivity Commission Gary Banks wrote: ‘… we have the PM [Albanese] lauding his government’s “smarter approach” to the productivity challenge and the Treasurer [Bowen] saying the energy “transformation” is a boon to productivity, when evidence and logic indicate otherwise’ (The Australian Aug 17 2023).
In other words the current government’s ‘cure’ for declining productivity is itself the disease which it purports to be the cure.

Chris Hanley
Reply to  Chris Hanley
August 20, 2023 10:07 pm

The Treasure is of course Mr Chalmers but Chris Bowen in Energy & Climate (sic) has made the same claims.

August 21, 2023 1:34 am

Older nuclear reactors were indeed inflexible. Any of the newer molten salt fuelled (e.g. Terrestrial Energy) or molten salt cooled (e.g. Kairos or Arc Cleantech) are not inflexible. They can ramp up and down to meet demand at a rate of about 5% or capacity per minute. This is the about the same as gas power stations.

Leo Smith
Reply to  Simon
August 21, 2023 3:37 am

Even the old reactors could do this.

EDF has been managing reactors this way in France for decades.

Viz a very old paper outline the issues and the technology…

Reply to  Simon
August 21, 2023 4:43 pm

The problem is that wind and solar can drop 100% in a matter of minutes.

August 21, 2023 2:11 am

I read the whole article adn am none the wiser for what CPAC stands for. Will people please observe the basic rule, once taught to pupils in school, at least, that if you want to use intials you should first use the term in full.

August 21, 2023 2:38 am

The highlight of CPAC was the address given by the “special representative.” from the United Nations. It was hilarious.

Your right Eric, the LNP need to change and change quick. The problem is that we are talking about politics, so it’s all smoke, mirrors and factions. In terms of energy policy try this —

Exit Nut-Zero, this happens day 1, introduce legislation to overturn Nut -Zero and all meaningless targets and dates.No further build out of grid scale renewables. No offshore wind, onshore wind or solar connected to grid.Overturn, all bans on fracking.Approve all pending gas projects.Provide investment incentives to build coal fired power stations.Abolish the Climate Change AuthorityAbolish all emissions reductions regulations, including but not limited to the NGER scheme, and the inanely named Safeguard Mechanism.Re-organize the current department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water. Abolish Climate Change entirely as a federal government department.Create a standalone Energy portfolio.Re-establish the CSIRO as a weather bureau. Abolish all departments with the CSIRO that address Climate Change.Place Environment & Water into its own portfolio.Commence immediately the process to establish a nuclear power industry in Australia.Cease all subsidies for wind, solar, batteries and EV’s.Cease all investment in hydrogen and “green” hydrogen.Abolish all renewable aspects of “re-wiring the nation”. Make improvements to the grid, sans renewables.Should be a good start, but lots more work to do!

Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 22, 2023 4:54 am

imagining a teal lurking in every dark corner.”

It is their timidity and non-conservative agenda that allowed the Teals in, in the first place.

Continuing down that path is totally counter-productive.

Leo Smith
August 21, 2023 3:17 am

Yeah. Whatever.

Never mind why they are saying they need nuclear power, as long as we have it, it will undercut renewables and the case for renewables will vanish.
We had the same nonsense spouted here (UK) with nuclear being proposed as a backup for renewables. No one seems in the slightest bit concerned about this massive contradiction.

I have a short paragraph on this matter:

There is nothing a fleet of dispatchable nuclear power plants cannot do that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon emissions and more adverse environmental impact than by adding intermittent renewable energy.

Never mind ‘for the right reason‘ . In politics you are lucky to get the right solution even if it is entirely for the wrong reasons…

Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 22, 2023 5:03 am

Brown coal is mainly in Victoria…

NSW has mainly good quality black thermal coal,..

Qld is the main exporter for metallurgical coal, but has good thermal coal as well.

August 21, 2023 5:38 am

Twas always the same – ever since Cassandra at least!

August 21, 2023 6:28 am

From The Australian (21/8/23)-

Victoria will pay to keep AGL Energy’s Loy Yang A coal power station open until 2035, striking a secret safety-net plan to avoid blackouts before replacement green power is built.

The Andrews government has agreed to underwrite the state’s biggest electricity generator, removing a risk that could have seen the energy plant shut down years earlier if low wholesale electricity prices eroded its profits.

Victorian Climate Action, Energy and Resources Minister Lily D’Ambrosio refused to be drawn on the details of the risk- sharing mechanism agreed with AGL, the second secret deal struck to prop up coal after a similar pact with EnergyAustralia’s Yallourn station two years ago.

Following on from islanded Western Australia’s recent backpedalling on coal generation-
Coal-fired closure delay sparks calls that Australia’s ‘running out of runway’ for green energy targets – ABC News
Strictly interim measures for their Great Transition you understand.

Gunga Din
August 21, 2023 8:42 am

Why do I have a problem with the Aussie conservative switch to support for nuclear?

My problem is, they are not talking about supporting nuclear because it is the best choice, or because it will bring down energy prices. They want to support nuclear because they’re desperately trying to appease inner city greens, with a low carbon “solution” they hope their own supporters will swallow.

So they were right but for the wrong reasons?

Gunga Din
Reply to  Eric Worrall
August 22, 2023 10:27 am

Thanks for the clarification.
The problem isn’t adding nuclear. The problem is rejecting coal now and hindering going back to it later?

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