Ace Forecaster Bastardi: “Something We Used to See In 1970s”, Warns Of “Spectacular Cold”

From the NoTricksZone

By P Gosselin 

Risk of a “spectacular cold outbreak “…have countries let their guard down?

In his most recent Weatherbell Saturday Summary, veteran meteorologist Joe Bastardi looks ahead at the winter weather over the coming weeks across the globe.

What definitely distinguishes Joe from forecasters I follow here in Germany is that he doesn’t rely solely on the so-called ensemble models to make his longer term forecasts, but goes way back into the archives and searches for similar patterns that took place even decades ago (analogues) in order to better discern which way the weather is likely to turn in the weeks ahead.

German forecasters like here , here and here like to put out videos once or even twice daily to report on what the many model ensembles are showing, which is something no one really needs a meteorological license to do.  Too often you hear these weather pundits suddenly change their 7+ day forecast, in lockstep with whatever the latest ensemble run crunches out. Yet, most of us know that such forecasts are only valid until the next ensemble run because 7 days out the models can and often make U-turns.

“Very concerned” about coming cold

In Joe’s latest forecast, he again makes use of analogue years to forecast weeks ahead. I recall a forecast he made some 2 weeks ago warning that early December likely will turn cold in Europe – long before anyone else – basing it on weather patterns seen over past decades. Lo and behold, now the models are finally seeing wintry weather for next weekend.

In his latest forecast, Joe has become “very concerned” about the coming cold, which is going to be a real problem for not only people in the US, but around the globe.

“Mark my word, if this kind of cold shows up, that we’ve been setting up since the end of summer, and it looks like it at least has merit to consider, there’s going to be a blaming on climate change because of the blocking that caused it.”

Joe worries that many countries aren’t going to have sufficient energy to meet the forecast cold challenges, something politically inexcusable in 2022 with all our modern technology.

The kind of cold and blocking pattern ahead Joe is referring to is something the globe also saw/recorded decades ago and it’s not going to be anything new should it come to past.

Joe shows charts that point to what he says “could be a spectacular outbreak of cold”. Only now are the models showing what Joe had warned of weeks and months ago: northern hemisphere land masses getting gripped by sub-normal cold:

Source: Cropped from Weatherbell

“That’s wild. That’s something we saw back in the 1970s,” Joe notes.

The 1970s also saw energy shortages, and with similar weather patterns. You’d think our leaders would have learned something from all of it. Unfortunately not. Once again a number of countries risk energy shortages this winter.

Of course no forecast is ever certain. But over the years, Joe has often beat the long term forecasts (14+ days out) made by the national weather offices. Goes to show we can learn a lot from weather history.

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Note from Charles. Joe Bastardi’s warning to Ron Desantis on 9/21 can be seen in retrospect as an incredibly prescient prediction for Hurricane Ian.

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November 28, 2022 10:06 am

This CO2 drives warming or climate change is pure nonsense. The only defined mechanism by which CO2 can affect Climate Change is through the thermalization of 15-micron LWIR. That is it. For all intents and purposes, CO2 is a constant in all cross-sectional studies, and if you think of a time series of a chain of cross-sectional studies, CO2 is basically constant. If CO2 is a constant, or its growth rate is constant, then we can start talking about real science.

1) The Quantum Mechanics of a CO2 Molecule don’t change per location, and they don’t change over time.
2) CO2 should cause identical trends regardless of location
3) An increase in CO2 must lead to an increase in warmth according to the GHG Effect, the GHG Effect only describes warming

Here is the evidence:
1) The South Pole has shown no warming with a 30%+ increase in CO2
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2) The US Shows Warming of one trend
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3) Southern Lower Latitudes show 1/2 the rate as the US
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4) The equator shows a different rate
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5) N Hemi warming more than S Hemi
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6) N Pole is warming much more than S Pole
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Basically, the claimed effect of CO2 appears to be dependent upon the location of the molecule. That is nonsense, clearly, something other than CO2 is causing the different slopes in temperature. CO2 won’t warm water, more visible ration does. CO2 is the same at the North as it is at the South Pole, and elsewhere. Bottom like, if you control for the Urban Heat Island Effect and Water Vapor, you will discover that CO2 doesn’t cause warming. NASA Date proves it.

Reply to  CO2isLife
November 28, 2022 1:49 pm

Correction, it should be 20%+ increase in CO2, not 30%+.

MarkW
Reply to  CO2isLife
November 28, 2022 3:14 pm

If the only thing that impacted temperature was CO2, your graphs would have relevance.
Unfortunately there are many things that impact temperature and many, if not most of them vary by latitude.

JC
November 28, 2022 10:09 am

North Central and Eastern Europe according to the very blurry small map, will be impacted. In the US, Norther Tier Mid-western states. The mid-west will be nothing like December and January 1976-1977 when Chicago was hit with minus -14 degree highs for days with 14-16 mile hour winds.

November 28, 2022 10:18 am

I watched Bastardi’s weekly video. I can keep reasonably warm unless the power goes out, but severe cold often breeds a major snowstorm/icestorm, and that often causes power outages for me. Not looking forward to it. But as some seem hoping cold would “convince” anyone to change minds, it won’t. Because the meme now isn’t global warming, it was purposely shifted to “climate change” which includes anything.

Ireneusz Palmowski
Reply to  beng135
November 28, 2022 10:41 am

It’s only when power outages start to occur that some people will start to wonder if there’s something wrong. And this is just the beginning of real climate change related to solar activity.
http://www.bom.gov.au/archive/oceanography/ocean_anals/IDYOC007/IDYOC007.202211.gif
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November 28, 2022 10:35 am

Meanwhile the UK is running close to the wire and pulling out all the stops and pulling all the favours.
See attached – I cropped the gas generation so as to see the others better but it says ‘Gas – 22.6’

A quick eye-ball of UK tempertures right say the avearge is about 8 or 9 Celsius -no wind and it was quite sunny at a lot of places today.
Pea-soup fog in others mind you. such as out here on the Cambridge Fen

UK Elec Gen 28 Nov 18_20 GMT.PNG
nurtureyourchild
Reply to  Peta of Newark
November 30, 2022 2:16 am

Scary isn’t it, talking emergencies already and winter hasn’t really got under way yet!
I’m in UK too, East Yorkshire. Yesterday the temp didn’t get over 4° all day, only 1° this morning when I got up and only 3° now at 10.00. Zero wind not even a breeze, we’re surrounded by literally hundreds of damn windmills and they’re using up energy we don’t have and no sun because of the fog.
Not that anyone in power seems to give a shit 🤷🏻‍♀️

The last really bad winter we had here was 2012, I remember it well as had a dog go into whelp on the 2nd December but didn’t progress as usual. I decided we should go to the vets for oxytocin injection but we couldn’t get out the drive as the snow was too deep and compacted, and we had a 4×4! Luckily she decided to get on with it herself after the shock of seeing the snow lol. I opened the back door and the snow was like a wall half way up, the lowest temperature I took that year was -15°
I thought in early October we were going to get a bad one this year, all the signs were showing in nature.

Mr Ed
November 28, 2022 10:38 am

Ah the ’70’s…winter of ’78-’79 hands down the worst winter I’ve experienced here in
western MT..
Came in on Thanksgiving with a 30″+ snowstorm then the mercury dropped
below zero and stayed there for over 100 consecutive days. Many days the highs
were -30*F. Frozen water lines buried 9ft deep stayed frozen till the end of June.
I can remember how -5*F days seemed warm. Finally in late February we got a chinook
and it warmed up to 30* for a couple of days the back below zero again.. that warmth
drove the frost even deeper in the ground. Trying to keep machinery running was
a challenge. Had me believing the public narrative that we were headed into
a new ice age.

ResourceGuy
Reply to  Mr Ed
November 28, 2022 12:28 pm

and Lake Superior froze completely across

Reply to  Mr Ed
November 29, 2022 4:29 am

“Ah the ’70’s…winter of ’78-’79 hands down the worst winter I’ve experienced here in western MT..”

I remember that one. We had three feet of snow here where I live in Oklahoma. It was impossible to drive for days.

EOM
November 28, 2022 10:51 am

Mauna Loa is a big bleeder, not a dissolved-gas exploder. What may happen is a Big Island that becomes bigger.

Machnee
November 28, 2022 10:56 am

Trudeau and the NDP in Canada have been using the “climate crisis” fiction as a diversion from debt and deficit since 2015. Students do not know what debt is as long as they have their fossil fuel based little phones.

November 28, 2022 11:31 am

Unfortunately, facts don’t matter. The global warming agenda is about tyranny and control.

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n.n
November 28, 2022 11:33 am

climate cooling… warming… change undeniable, unfalsifiable, a standard of physical systems that keeps the science in play.

rah
November 28, 2022 12:01 pm

Ha! And it comes when the NH snow extent is well above the average for this time of year.
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This trucker is not looking forward to this coming Arctic blast.

Not just the driving in it but dealing with getting the equipment going. It sucks coming in during the wee hours in -15 deg F temps to find your fuel line frozen and brake shoes frozen to the drums. It sucks trying to slide the tandems on trailers when there is ice everywhere and you can’t get traction. And it sucks dealing with frozen trailer brakes and climbing under the trailer and beating on the brake drums with a 3 lb. hammer to get them to release.

One would think that as an old winter warrior I would be used to the difficulties of operating in very cold temps. Everything is harder and slower to accomplish except for the occasional slip that puts you on your ass. But age makes it ever more difficult to deal with the cold and the challenges it brings.

These are the times that try a man’s soul. I will put my head down and push through it but I am thinking that this may be my last winter trucking. We shall see. Sitting in my living room feeding logs into the fire during such times is sounding awfully inviting right now.

ResourceGuy
November 28, 2022 12:26 pm

Humans already have a problem with linear thinking–they don’t need the Climate Crusades making it worse by erasing cycles from the lexicon.

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Amo_timeseries_1856-present.svg

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November 28, 2022 1:20 pm

The entire UK wind fleet rated at >25GW is currently generating 0.25GW which by my maths is 1% of capacity and 0.75% of demand. According to my Weather App there’s not going to be much wind until the weekend when things should pick windwise up in Scotland at least.

http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/

auto
Reply to  Ben Vorlich
November 28, 2022 3:42 pm

But Little Rishi looks like he’ll go for the more bat-buster option.
Tories are ‘reported’ to be ‘about to’ overturn the ban on onshore wind mills . . . .
Tho it is not clear to me why he thinks more stationary windmills will give more electricity than the stationary windmills we have now.

But I’m not a pollie.

Auto

Reply to  auto
November 29, 2022 4:36 am

The old, familiar “Doubling down on stupid”.

Windmills are not producing enough electricity because the wind isn’t blowing, so let’s build more windmills.

Spud Mack
November 28, 2022 1:28 pm

wind mills will haft to work extra hard

MarkW
Reply to  Spud Mack
November 28, 2022 3:16 pm

wind mills will have to work
for once

observa
November 28, 2022 2:27 pm

Don’t worry as long as the climate changers have Demand Flexibility Service whereby they pay poor folks to freeze in the dark-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/other/electricity-supplies-tight-as-national-grid-issues-two-separate-notices/ar-AA14Enwa
Just make sure you’re not a poor folk saving the planet.

observa
November 28, 2022 3:21 pm

Meanwhile on another planet far far away in a distant Galaxy Teal MP Allegra big Spender is shocked that local taxpayers aren’t funding local Darling Point Tesla owners with street chargers-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/markets/lack-of-public-charging-facilities-makes-owning-an-electric-car-a-challenge-for-sydney-residents/ar-AA14EClD
https://www.realestate.com.au/nsw/darling-point-2027/
It’s a tough gig saving the planet but somebody has to do it.

Reply to  observa
November 29, 2022 4:45 am

There is a four-bay electric car charger located along the main drag through my hometown, and, although I don’t drive down this highway every day, every time I do drive through there, the chargers are always empty. I have never seen a car being charged at that location. Maybe there are not that many electric cars around here. I don’t know.

I just found myself a gas station that sells gasoline without any added ethanol. I’m a happy camper. That’s where I’m buying my gasoline from now on. Of course, it was high octane and cost $3.66 per gallon.

I blame Joe Biden for the high gasoline prices.

Martin
November 28, 2022 5:27 pm

Weather history is probably better but models pay the bills with no repercussions if they are wrong.

roha1946@gmail.com.au
November 28, 2022 8:14 pm

This proves Climate Change is real and we’re all going to burn to death in a year or two unless we drive electric cars powered by windmills.

November 28, 2022 8:25 pm

Joe Bastardi is predicting a severe winter based upon its similarity to the weather of the 1970’s.

However, the weather of the 1970’s was due to a massive increase of Industrial SO2 aerosol emissions into the atmosphere, which climbed to 136 million tons by 1979, cooling the planet.

Nothing like that now. We could see some wild weather, which happens when global temperatures increase, but my prediction would be that (globally) it will be warmer than last winter.

Elliot W
Reply to  BurlHenry
November 28, 2022 9:07 pm

“it will be warmer than last winter”

Even if it’s much colder than last winter, you can be confident the news media and the politicians will tell us all it was the warmest winter evah.
And the tens of thousands of winter cold deaths were due to Covid, racism, or both.
And that deadly power outages were caused by greedy fossil fuel companies, not the disruption to the grid caused by unreliable wind and solar generators.

See? We both can play at predictions.

rah
Reply to  BurlHenry
November 30, 2022 12:53 am

Not true. Joe compared the winter that is coming to what was experienced in the 70’s.

But his forecast is based on analogs of weather patterns from past years and not just the 70’s.

He also notes the fact that the MJO is moving from phase 6 which is a warmer phase towards phases 7,8, and 1, which are cold phases. Specifically says that phase 8 “sets off triggers”.

Plus the AO (Arctic Oscillation), EPO (East Pacific Oscillation) and NAO (North Atlantic Oscillation) are all going negative just as they did in the analog years showing similar weather patterns.

The one significant difference between now and the weather we were having in the 70’s is that the AMO (Atlantic Multi decadal Oscillation) was in the negative back then and is in the positive now.

Joe has “old eyes” he says. What that means is he has been at this so long that he can look at current weather and pressure patterns and teleconnections and knows off the top of his head where to look in the records for times when the patterns were similar and then from them can check out what the weather in a particular area actually was.

Ireneusz Palmowski
November 28, 2022 11:59 pm

The graphic shows that the lows from the Atlantic reaches over Svalbard, almost to the pole. This means that the polar vortex is broken up. Real winter is approaching Poland. Europe get ready for the east wind.
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Ireneusz Palmowski
November 29, 2022 1:45 am

Valentina Zharkova: “in the next 30 years global warming will be the last thing we think about.”

ImNoneBidenary
November 29, 2022 2:59 am

Maybe we need to increase taxes now and get rid of fossil fuels. Just cut them off because I guess now we only have months to live….right marxists?

pjar
November 29, 2022 9:50 am

So… thank goodness for renewables then, without which we would currently be missing the entire 2.5GW, out of the 41.6GW we are currently using. Interestingly, and worryingly perhaps, 8GW or 19% is coming from Interconnectors in Europe. What could possibly go wrong?

November 29, 2022 5:13 pm

In mid-January 1976 I left a hot summer Sydney and disembarked at Amsterdam. It was cold. The canals were freezing. Four nights in a row had minimum temperatures below -8C (17.6F). People threw bicycles into the canals quite often as Wiki notes – nearly 15,000 bikes are pulled out from more than 160 canals in Amsterdam every year, but the first night dawned with bicycles unsunk, sitting on a few inches of ice. I wish my camera had been ready, but alas.
http://www.geoffstuff.com/amsterdam.jpg
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Why mention this? because strange events happened to global climate around 1975-6. The great Pacific climate shift has been named. Scientists have not yet provided a complete description of the change. Causes, events, consequences, parallels, mechanisms are mostly missing or guesses.Yes, there was a lot of talk about a coming global winter with threats to our ways of life in the mid-70s. from those few of us who were there and remember it.
It is starting to look as if the global warming effort will go down in history as a fable from 1975 to 2010. Look forward to further climate cooling, although the weather will give us some quite hot days, getting less frequent as time passes. Watch for alarmists trying to turn these into lasting signs of existential crisis for humankind.
What a sham! Geoff S

November 30, 2022 12:50 am

The amount of heat lost from the north atlantic with the month of solid storms we have had is staggering. A Hurricane can rip 1000 watts per meter out of the sea. Ad we have had month of storms.

I can see a cold winter coming.