This Is An Emergency!

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

We’ve just seen, up close and personal, the huge problems with the declaration of a State of Emergency by some potentate from City Mayor to US President.

Legislators, this is a total usurpation of your legitimate power as specified in the Constitution, which defines the responsibilities and authority of the three branches of government.

Basically, any elected official can say:

“I now personally declare that I have Emergency Powers because of the State of Emergency that I just personally declared to be a real authentic Emergency! Bow before me, mere mortals!”

We’ve just seen this being done by the US President in order to give him power to do things like write the biggest check in US history to student debtors.

How can that be? Legislators, the President is taking the power of the purse away from the Senate and the House and claiming the authority to write a check of any amount to anyone he pleases! That’s totally wrong!

Not to mention Governors claiming the power to keep people in their homes, to force them to take medicines, to close down their businesses, and a host of other restrictions because of the COVID emergency.

And my own fear?

My fear is that these jerkwagons will declare a “climate emergency” that will authorize them to take any “climate” action they want—close down industries, ban cars, require heat pumps, the possibilities are endless.

So … how can we fix this badly broken system?

Here are my proposals:

First, we need to define what an emergency actually is. The dictionary definition is good:

e·mer·gen·cy
/əˈmərjənsē/

noun
a serious, unexpected, and often dangerous situation requiring immediate action.
“your quick response in an emergency could be a lifesaver”

This is a useful definition. For example, they’ve been warning us about the impending climate Thermageddon™ for fifty years. None of their warnings of catastrophe have come true.

And for 50 years they’ve been claiming that we need “immediate action”, right away … and despite us basically doing zip, no climate calamities have happened.

So by definition, the situation with the climate is not an emergency. Not unexpected, doesn’t require immediate action.

In any case, we need clear legislation at both the State and Federal level specifying things like:

• What constitutes an emergency.

• Who can declare an emergency.

• How long does the declaration last.

• What emergency powers the government can legally take.

• What emergency powers the government can not legally take.


With that as prologue, if I ran the circus I’d make the rules like this.

• Adopt the definition of “emergency” given above.

• Only allow a State of Emergency to be declared by a vote of 2/3 of the Legislature. If you can’t get 2/3 thirds of the Legislature to agree it’s an emergency, it’s not an emergency.

• Any State of Emergency expires 14 days after it is voted in. It can be extended twice, but only for 14 days each time, by a new 2/3 vote of the Legislature. After that, pass regular laws in a regular manner.

• No Legislator eligible to vote for the State of Emergency can be granted any emergency powers.

• No Emergency Order can contravene either the State or Federal Constitution.

• Members of the Executive Branch cannot use the State of Emergency to spend money without the approval of the Legislature.

• All Emergency Orders expire when the State of Emergency expires.


Yes, I know that’s just a rough first cut on what we need, subject to “a hundred visions and revisions before the taking of a toast and tea” … but it’s clear that we need something like that.

Because I don’t want someone from either political party empowered to say I can’t leave my home for months on end based on some bogus Chicken Little claim that “The sky is falling! EVERYONE PANIC!”.

And the current system, where the same person declaring the emergency assumes extraordinary emergency powers with no specifications or limits, that’s bull goose looney. Nothing good will come of that.

Regards to all,

w.

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rms
September 12, 2022 10:07 am

Excellent. (but cognitive dissonance will prevent action, sadly)

Robertvd
Reply to  rms
September 13, 2022 2:00 am

If all puppets listen to the same puppet master who can print all it needs to corrupt the system how do we think to achieve this ?
Follow The Yellow Brick Road

Carbon Bigfoot
Reply to  Robertvd
September 13, 2022 6:31 am

On Saturday morning while sipping coffee I happened onto the Bloomberg Channel 353 on DirecTV while they were on what they call Bloomberg Green.
A CEO from Kliner-Perkins was being interview about his new book (I’m not sure that’s what it is) entitled
“SPEED & SCALE” outlining what the author, John Doerr claims what we need is a PLAN.
It was clear after his hyperbole that he like others haven’t a clue or any CV to support his diatribe Sorry to say an engineer like him gives us all a bad name.
https://www.amazon.com/Speed-Scale-Action-Solving-Climate/dp/0593420470

Someone with time needs to dispute his meanderings https://t.co/ZjdazwqyLz

Kevin Kilty
September 12, 2022 10:10 am

All good ideas for a better function system, Willis, except that they will interfere with the natural proclivities of potentates public officials. Personally, I am just going to vote hard against one of the two major parties — I won’t care if Mr. Ed the horse is the other candidate.

tgasloli
September 12, 2022 10:10 am

No, emergency powers need to be altogether removed. Along with a general reduction in the size, scope, and power of government.

In the case of the Federal government back to what it was before the lawless FDR, and preferably before the first “progressive” Wilson.

Felix
Reply to  tgasloli
September 12, 2022 12:32 pm

Amen! Society got along perfectly fine before emergency powers. WW II took a day to declare after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Locals have consistently gotten emergency supplies to disaster areas before FEMA even fired up their word processors, and could have done even more if governments didn’t make “price gouging” illegals.

Government is incompetent, period.

Duker
Reply to  Felix
September 12, 2022 2:46 pm

Roosevelt had a declared a National Emergency well before Pearl harbour ( May27 1941)
Proclaiming That an Unlimited National Emergency Confronts This Country, Which Requires That Its Military, Naval, Air and Civilian Defenses Be Put on the Basis of Readiness to Repel Any and All Acts or Threats of Aggression Directed Toward Any Part of the Western Hemisphere’

Reply to  Felix
September 12, 2022 9:50 pm

Government is incompetent, period.”

Felix,
What you’re witnessing/experiencing is decidedly not incompetence. There’s a reason ANY government program you can name, did not actually help the people that the sugary title said it would. If you understand that our present government, at almost all levels, is really just a money laundering scheme, then all the events you witness and experience at the hands of said government become crystal clear. Persons elected and appointed to government, with very few exceptions (and largely regardless of affiliation), spend their entire time in their jobs continually building a bigger and bigger pipe to carry stolen taxpayer earned dollars to the feeding troughs of their donors, their benefactors, occasionally down to their supporters, but in the end with a pretty large kickback/cut to themselves. All one has to do is chart the financial net worth of anyone in the US Congress, and look at the profitability of the industries with the largest lobbies (e.g. pharma), as proof. I leave that to the reader.

I believe wholeheartedly in the federal government defined in the US Constitution and as functionally described in detail in the Federalist Papers (Madison, Hamilton, Jay). I took an oath, to which I still hold myself, to protect and defend it. The US federal government should be small and reluctant; not the abomination we have today. Hopefully the Convention of States Project will be successful and we can get the US federal government back in the box (of course we also need to forcibly take back the education system to really get the country back on track).

Robertvd
Reply to  Boulder Skeptic
September 13, 2022 2:06 am

Who needs taxpayer if you have a (not)Federal Reserve. A cancer can only grow if it has a unlimited blood supply.

Reply to  Robertvd
September 13, 2022 9:02 am

Agreed, that the Federal Reserve is a significant part of the problem that contributes to the money laundering operation.

Joe Crawford
Reply to  Boulder Skeptic
September 13, 2022 10:02 am

As Mark Twain once said: “We have the best government that money can buy.”

And, the parties starts training them early. As Stacy Selleck said in her article at termlimits.com (April 26, 2016): “Fundraising is big business in Washington, D.C. So big, in fact, that your newly elected Congressional representative is expected to spend half of his or her working hours dialing for dollars at a secret phone bank near Capitol Hill.”

Mark Whitney
Reply to  Felix
September 13, 2022 5:13 am

If it were incompetence it would have positive results on average half the time. Nay, what we are witnessing is pure intent.

Felix
Reply to  Mark Whitney
September 13, 2022 8:46 am

Incompetence is not random. It is incompetence.

Reply to  Felix
September 15, 2022 1:20 pm

The 1976 National Emergencies Act implemented various legal requirements regarding emergencies declared by the President of the United States. As of April 2022, 79 emergencies have been declared; 37 have expired and another 42 are currently in effect, each having been renewed annually by the president.

TonyG
Reply to  Steven M Mosher
September 15, 2022 1:29 pm

emergency – nouna serious, unexpected, and often dangerous situation requiring immediate action

Seems rather misnamed at best – 20+ years doesn’t really seem to fit that definition. Neither do the descriptions of most of those “emergencies”

Reply to  Felix
September 15, 2022 1:22 pm

Prohibiting Trade and Certain Other Transactions Involving Nicaragua (Executive Order 12513)[22] – The United States embargo against Nicaragua,[24] followed the victory by Sandinista candidate Daniel Ortega in the 1984 Nicaraguan general election over the U.S.-backed Contras

EOM
Reply to  tgasloli
September 12, 2022 12:42 pm

Isn’t this how V Lenin did it? Provisional this and provisional that: Emergency powers continued for about 70 years. About 80 million citizens died un-natural deaths as a result. This became an example for power-mad tyrants, not some isolated incident. And, now we see this exact poisonous weed developing a very deep tap root here!

PCman999
Reply to  EOM
September 12, 2022 2:31 pm

Hitler and the rest too “we need emergency powers to save the Republic”

Duker
Reply to  PCman999
September 12, 2022 2:54 pm

Hitlers Enabling Act was passed by the Reichstag, which in the election of March 33 (89% turnout) after Hitler was appointed Chancellor they didnt have a majority

joao Martins
Reply to  EOM
September 13, 2022 2:54 am

A very “legalist” dictator of my country (Salazar, Portugal), legalized the military coup d’etat that started the dictatorship in 1926 with the approval of a constitution (in 1933) whose Article 8 gave to each and every Portuguese citizen the widest democratic rights and freedom.

… But soon after that approval, that very Article 8 was suspended (indefinitely) by law democratically passed whose justification was … emergency, enemies of state, etc.

Drake
Reply to  tgasloli
September 12, 2022 3:30 pm

FDR got his power through the constitutional amendments for direct election of senators (17th Amendment 1913) and income tax of individuals and businesses (16th Amendment 2013).

He was elected to fix a depression caused by the other problem created in the 1913, the Federal Reserve.

Wow, a lot of damage done to the citizens of the United States in 1913.

BTW, the Federal Reserve was the THIRD US national bank, the previous 2 were repealed.

Apparently by 2013 we were finally screwed.

Robertvd
Reply to  Drake
September 13, 2022 12:47 pm

The Wizards behind the curtain.

Reply to  tgasloli
September 13, 2022 8:32 am

Any emergency action taken should have immediate mandatory review and constant re-evaluation by the supreme court

Richard Brimage
September 12, 2022 10:19 am

Amen.

Philip
September 12, 2022 10:31 am

Yes. But there are two levels at which it has to be fixed. First, at the federal level. The federal government needs to be reined in. The biggest impact way to do this is for the Supreme Court to do it’s job and slap down the abuse of the interstate commerce clause. Maybe to go one step further, and require a review of every existing piece of legislation that invokes that as justification.

This would rear down almost every piece of abusive legislation passed in the past 60 years.

TheLastDemocrat
Reply to  Philip
September 12, 2022 11:50 am

Sure, Philip – let’s hack down ICC..but where do you stand on Ollie’s Barbeque? Or, where would you be allowed to sit?

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Philip
September 12, 2022 6:42 pm

The issue would be who decides what is “abusive” legislation and what isn’t. The only question at the federal level must be does it comply with the powers we the people give to the government via the Constitution. Remember, the power to run the Country is vested in the Congress, to be administered by the Executive branch.
The first issue, and in my opinion the most important, is to repeal the 17th Amendment. This amendment took away the power of the state legislatures to appoint Senators to represent the state at the federal level. In doing so, the federal government removed one of the biggest checks on itself. Now, via a popular vote, Senators are beholding to their monetary backers not to the state they represent.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Philip
September 13, 2022 10:51 pm

It would be interesting to see the current Supreme Court’s take on the original intent of the Interstate Commerce Clause. It seems to me that it was intended to keep individual States from putting up tariffs, discriminatory taxes and regulations & etc. It wasn’t to deny some schmuck the right grow his own marijuana, as a prior Court ruled.

jeffery p
September 12, 2022 10:32 am

They did it because they could. People let them because they were scared witless by the MSM and the experts.

None of the experts have yet to understand Covid-19 has a 99.5%+ survival rate.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  jeffery p
September 12, 2022 12:08 pm

That may be true now, but was not true at the beginning of the pandemic. It was much more lethal to the elderly and the obese. COVID-19 mutated over time in accordance with ‘Smith’s law’, which states that the most favored evolutionary pathway for any pathogen is to become less pathogenic and more transmissible. There are of course always special circumstance exceptions. COVID-19 is simply becoming the fifth known common cold corona virus. It no longer causes ‘ground glass’ deep lung infection. It is mostly now just a nasty URI.

PCman999
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 12, 2022 2:35 pm

Not totally true – most people who had it didn’t even know they had it, no symptoms, so how can you say anything concrete about it. I’m willing to accept the first version might be more lethal, but beyond masks and hand washing it was a panic attack sh!t show.

Duker
Reply to  PCman999
September 12, 2022 2:59 pm

Wrong . its was more like 1/3 had mild or no symptoms.
The excess deaths, not based on those who died and had positive test, show that around 1 mill more people died during the covid period and almost 1/2 mill of those before the vaccines became available

R_G
Reply to  PCman999
September 12, 2022 3:55 pm

I agree, most people who died were mistreated in hospitals. They were also not in good general health having comorbidities. The very efficient early treatment protocols were ignored. The statistics were also gamed (PCR tests with well over 20 cycles, adding deaths with covid to from covid) by the biurocracy to push the covid narrative. All that gave impression that covid was very lethal dissease. The truth is covid was/is similar to flu. It can be deadly to old people and those with compromised immune system.

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Duker
Reply to  R_G
September 12, 2022 7:45 pm

Not the case . It was far more deadly than flu (maybe 10x more died than a very bad flu season like they had in 60s before vaccines) and caused much more severe illness in those who became ill, sure a small proportion but of course when a disease is very very widespread the health system was overwhelmed
As for saying those who died were mistreated in hospital is absurd. A large proportion died away from hospital, maybe they saw their GP or didnt get any medical treatment

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Reply to  Duker
September 13, 2022 1:06 am

In the longer beginning most people in hospitals d1ed because of wrong ventiltion.

Yirgach
Reply to  Krishna Gans
September 13, 2022 12:09 pm

The worst part was that most people should NEVER have been in a hospital. Initially when a patient exhibited symptoms, the SOP was to send them home and tell them to come back in a week.

At that point they were PCR tested positive for Covid and were hospitalized with a Federal billing code worth $32K and put on a ventilator, where most succumbed and were of course labeled as “Covid” deaths.

Other early treatments were being used but suppressed in the health care industry as well as the press.

The Zelenko Protocol was used to treat thousands of infected patients with less than 1% ever admitted to a hospital.

Rah
Reply to  Duker
September 13, 2022 4:57 am

Influenza comes in many strains. The lethality varies a great deal. Since influenza morbidity and mortality virtually disappeared during the first two years of the “pandemic” since treatment did not pay like that for Covid did, you have no valid morbidity or mortality data to back your bull!

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R_G
Reply to  Duker
September 15, 2022 5:40 pm

You have no clue what you are taking about. I work in hospital and I have much broader access to relevant information than you. Some drugs were actively banned from being used on covid sick patients. Sick people were told to wait (do nothing) until they were “blue-in-face” and only then to come to hospital. Early treatment with cheap repurposed drugs could save them. The only drug approve was remdesivir – drug that can damage patients kidneys. In Africa during ebola scare remdesivir was withdrawn from treatment after over 50% ratio of kidney damage to patients. The list of mismanagement’s of covid crisis is very loooong.

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Rocketscientist
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 12, 2022 5:05 pm

I wasn’t aware of Smith’s law, but truth in wisdom.
My grannie used to say a good guest to his host gets invited more often.

Redge
September 12, 2022 10:42 am

So … how can we fix this badly broken system?

Ban Mein Kampf and have compulsory reeducation using The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich as a textbook.

Hey! Just using the watermelons playbook as an example.

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Redge
September 12, 2022 10:44 am

When everything is a crisis, nothing is.

Morgenroth
September 12, 2022 10:48 am

YES!

Duker
Reply to  Morgenroth
September 12, 2022 3:09 pm

Trump proclaimed 11 emergencies in his 4 years
Including one to allow him to divert military funds for his wall
His big emergency was for the Covid pandemic of course
Declaring a National Emergency Concerning the Novel Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) Outbreak’

Clyde Spencer
September 12, 2022 10:53 am

… the President is taking the power of the purse away from the Senate and the House and claiming the authority to write a check of any amount to anyone he pleases!

One might call this Fascist behavior, or a threat to democracy.

Kenji
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
September 12, 2022 11:53 am

The leftist, totalitarian, one-Party uber alles Democrats are DESPERATE to permanently alter Americas Representative REPUBLIC into a tyranny of THE MAJORITY. That … is what they mean by “Democracy” … they want to permanently remove any all opposition from the fly-over States, and concentrate ALL POWER on the coasts. They are desperate to turn America into a Supermajority ONE-Party rule … like California

Mario Lento
Reply to  Kenji
September 12, 2022 12:12 pm

 alter Americas Representative REPUBLIC into a tyranny of THE MAJORITY.”

Agreed.
But it’s worse. With the the 4th estate as they are today, I do not assume they even have a majority with which to base rules of Tyranny.

The current ruling situation is dreadfully bad.

Duker
Reply to  Kenji
September 12, 2022 3:14 pm

Biden won 5.25 mill votes in Texas to Trumps 5.8 mill
Only a few % difference
The tyranny of majority gave all 38 electoral votes to Trump

Trump actually got more votes in California , 6 mill, than he did in Texas
This idea of flyover and coastal states is absurd both Trump and Biden had strong support through most states

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Duker
September 12, 2022 6:50 pm

You do not understand Presidential elections. You do not vote for the candidate. You vote for a slate of Electors. The slate with the most votes gets to vote for which ever candidate they choose to. In most cases Republican Electors will vote for the Republican candidate and the Democrat Electors will vote for the Democrat candidate.

Duker
Reply to  Tom in Florida
September 12, 2022 7:49 pm

You do vote for the candidate , Bidens and Trumps names were on the ballot. Sure its the electors who vote in the Electoral College but thats a formality….. except for faithless electors , which you mention, are very tiny number and many states prohibit them from doing so

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Duker
September 13, 2022 5:34 am

No, the candidate is representative of the slate of electors. The popular vote for a candidate has no meaning and is not used to elect the president.

Drake
Reply to  Clyde Spencer
September 12, 2022 3:33 pm

All US spending bills must originate in the House. But that didn’t stop the Senate from replacing a bill that originated in the House with an amendment that completely replaced the language of the House bill. See Obamacare.

Loren C. Wilson
Reply to  Drake
September 12, 2022 4:24 pm

And our feckless Chief Justice agreed that this was constitutional. What a disappointment he has been.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Loren C. Wilson
September 12, 2022 6:53 pm

No, Roberts declared the fine as a tax and took the position that the Supreme Court does not have the power to change tax law. He threw it back to the Congress to change the fine which they finally did years later. So while you may debate the decision to declare the fine as a tax, but you should not have any disagreement with the Supreme Court not interfering with taxing authority.

jeffery P
Reply to  Tom in Florida
September 13, 2022 4:44 am

Rober5s rewrote the law when he deemed a fine to be a tax. I have a problem with that.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  jeffery P
September 13, 2022 5:36 am

As I said, that is a different debate. While he deemed it a tax, a legal interpretation, he did not rewrite the law. And having done that, it was a simple matter for the Congress to remove the tax or make it zero. It just took them too long to do it.

Drake
Reply to  Tom in Florida
September 13, 2022 8:24 am

Robert ruled the fine to be a tax when the Government attorneys arguing the case NEVER used that argument, and in fact called the penalty a fee ONLY.

Roberts made his ruling up out of whole cloth, with no legal justification because his ruling was never argued before the court.

A really bad nomination by Bush, but better than the first person he nominated which the Republicans of the Senate refused.

Mac
September 12, 2022 11:03 am

The saying that hydrogen and stupidity are the 2 most common elements in the universe comes to mind. When it comes down to is that stupidity is the most common element among politicians and the green blob. They never look at things objectively and are incapable of investigating and critical thinking.

September 12, 2022 11:11 am

Time to take back control from the elites. Two parties, alike in corrupt arrogance , monetising every law for their cronies, working for the moneyed elites not the people they simply tax and regulate up the wazoo, is not a democracy. Not for or by the people.Just another version of Putins gangster democracy, but dissengers and truth tellers to power are simply unable to find a platform for the truth or a job to support themselves. When the people you elect are not focussed on what the majority want, and contrive instead to defraud them by law, to prefer their interests and ideology, American democracy as created is probably dead. Happened in Canada already, WEF government under Trudeau, and in NZ, also happening now in the UK. Carl Sagan’s charlatans have come ambling along.

TonyG
Reply to  Brian R Catt
September 13, 2022 8:21 am

Time to take back control from the elites.

Way beyond time.

Peta of Newark
September 12, 2022 11:25 am

Some of us would suggest that there really is an emergency.
But, it’s the classic ‘frog in a pan of water‘ emergency – it’s been building for some time, decades in fact.
However, The Pan is now close to boiling and when it does, is going to boil over and make one hideous mess.

The Emergency is a Health Emergency.
Not just of the physical being, ($4 Trillion per year is reasonably serious) it is a real emergency problem with the mental health of vaaaaaaast numbers of people

We didn’t dodge Ehrlich’s bullet – in a very true sense, it hit us right between the eyes. We starved, or especially, our brains, minds and souls have all died.

Yes, folks appear to be moving around and doing things, but,
They Know Not What They Do.
They are heartless and absolutely scared shitless – because they simply don’t, and in fact can not, understand. And that frightens them even more.

Folks who point and laugh at Ehrlich are the very same sorts who made up The German Delegation – that laughed at Orange Man. It’s a nervous laugh because, in your heart-of-hearts, you know it’s true.

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HotScot
September 12, 2022 11:38 am

Sadly, it seems the ‘conspiracy theorists’ of 2+ years ago were far more correct than most of us believed.

Every country with or without a written constitution has seen their laws and precedents swept aside for the sake of a case of the flu.

The problem is though, it’s 99.999999% certain it was a Wuhan laboratory produced, gain of function flu. Personally, I think it escaped accidentally although I’m now open to the possibility it would have been released deliberately some time later.

The problem is, when it escaped no government had a clue how destructive is was because the research hadn’t concluded so they hit the panic button because, of course, every meaningful nation is doing this type of research and they know damn fine the possibilities.

Despite all the evidence to the contrary countries were locked down for two years+, and restrictions like masking and hysterical jabbing continues.

Even moderate governments suddenly discovered what despots have known for thousands of years, mass fear can make people extraordinarily compliant.

So, here we go again, Fear Porn, the sequel – an energy crisis which inevitably means a food crisis.

Shock, Horror……No government was prepared for this!

Bollox. Governments run over these scenarios as a matter of course and have contingencies (perhaps not good ones) in place. We had an energy crisis in the UK in the 1970’s, we are not strangers to this, and yet somehow our government wasn’t prepared?

I don’t buy it for a second.

I mean, seriously. This kind of thing has been discussed for decades now on WUWT and we don’t have the resources nor the geopolitical intelligence available to western governments.

Whilst the UK and Europe are at the mercy of Russian gas supplies, America never was, and Trump warned the Germans directly about their folly. He did it safe in the knowledge America was self sufficient enough not to go down with Europe if the worst happened.

Then even worse than Trump anticipated happened, Biden was installed as POTUS and he choked off America’s energy security. Then, somehow, Russia and Ukraine went from a fragile but largely peaceful coexistence to a state of war.

So, here we are again, in a state of fear which those with gummy bears for brains contend it’s all Russia, Russia, Russia’s fault agin.

I’m not convinced the mid terms will change anything because if Trump can lose an election with more additional votes than any other sitting POTUS in history, I don’t see the mid terms being any better.

What more damage can Biden do between November 2022 and the 2024 election, and what chance is there of anyone other than the Democrat’s rinsing and repeating with another insane candidate.

I’m not convinced any fiddling about with laws or the Constitution will be enough as nothing has stopped Biden so far.

I sure hope I’m wrong about November because the alternatives are unthinkable.

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Mario Lento
Reply to  HotScot
September 12, 2022 12:19 pm

The problem is, when it escaped no government had a clue how destructive is was…”

It’s worse than that. So our government inflated the fear and the numbers by way of changing how C19 is written on cause of death, paying more money for that outcome, and removing people’s ability to go to a hospital for numerous other maladies.

That tells us they knew it was not bad enough for this yet another Tyrannical act.

Mario Lento
Reply to  Mario Lento
September 12, 2022 2:45 pm

I need to add, …and they outright censured normal and known low-cost health knowledge that would alleviate C19 and other RNA viruses –including the FLU.

The current administration has wittingly and unwittingly committed crimes against humanity.

Duker
Reply to  Mario Lento
September 12, 2022 3:17 pm

Not at all , excess deaths which dont count the actual reason on death certificate, show around 1 mill more deaths than usual in the 2 years of the covid period. 1/2 mill of those were before the vaccines

Remember too it was Trump who initiated the covid national emergency- which was still in force when Biden was inaugurated

mario lento
Reply to  Duker
September 12, 2022 10:28 pm

@Duker: I do not understand why you wrote: “Not at all” Please state part of what I wrote was wrong? If you want to get into statistics, you will first need to understand what I wrote. And then you can understand that there are huge unexpected increases of non-covid deaths, which seem to point to vaccine related.

Regardless, Trump did not mandate vaccines, which is something I would not have forgiven him for.

Mark BLR
Reply to  mario lento
September 13, 2022 3:25 am

And then you can understand that there are huge unexpected increases of non-covid deaths, which seem to point to vaccine related.

Anyone who thinks there is an “obvious” relationship between “Vaccination Rates” and “Excess Deaths” in America hasn’t actually looked at the data (from the CDC).

Yes there have been (a lot !) more deaths than “usual” since January 2020.

The only “correlation”, and it’s a tenuous one at that, might be between the spike due to “third / booster shots” in the last 3 or 4 months of 2021 and the spike in (all-cause) deaths at the beginning of 2022.

NB : People advancing that conjecture then need to explain how the “Doses 1 + 2” during the first half of 2021 managed to “cause” a spike in deaths before they were administered …

More analysis of “confounding factors” needs to be performed, instead of people just jumping to conclusions based on “I read it on the Internet ! … and therefore it must be true ! ! !”.

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mario lento
Reply to  Mark BLR
September 13, 2022 8:24 am

There are monthly figures for non-covid deaths up to 15% above the “expected” deaths. And interestingly, sadly, the die off from people who did not survive covid should have led to fewer deaths in 2022 in the study, but there were significant increases. So there is a tell in the data… not proof.

Further, if you look at the people who lie to you for answers, then you may not find the truth.

Look carefully at the FDA document releases and see the results of the vaccines. Not good right away, and then look at how data is collected and not collected for the adverse reactions including death and extrapolate.

Finally, try to understand what the so called vaccine does within the body, how it changes the cells’ function to produce harmful spike proteins from the medical literature.

Dave Fair
Reply to  mario lento
September 13, 2022 11:32 pm

The Supreme Court made it clear to Brandon that the Executive Branch of the Federal government has no Congressionally authorized power to mandate workplace vaccines for the general public. Since the Congressionally approved law relating to Federal funds for Medicare and Medicaid healthcare providers, however, stated the Secretary had the authority generally to require such measures for healthcare workers, SCOTUS went along with that mandate.

Brandon’s attempts to circumvent Congresses’ purgatories by claiming obscure sections of laws gave him power to significantly regulate items that were never previously so interpretated, in the above case that OSHA could regulate businesses based on general health reasons. SCOTUS has slapped him down over that habit in other cases, including EPA’s regulation of CO2 beyond powerplant point sources.

Neo
September 12, 2022 11:40 am

Now this is an emergency involving CO2 but not the usual way

Brace for the coming beer shortage

Driving the news: A CO2 production hub in Jackson, Mississippi, became contaminated by an extinct volcano, which cut down on an already limited supply of the gas.

Warner Vaughan
Reply to  Neo
September 12, 2022 12:57 pm

Not the beer! God save us:)

Duker
Reply to  Neo
September 12, 2022 3:23 pm

Thats industrial source of CO2, the Jackson Dome .
Beer and soft drinks CO2 is food grade which comes as a by product of processes which use natural gas as the source material mostly refinerys and such of which there are dozens in US

Kenji
September 12, 2022 11:45 am

Brilliant Willis. BTW … how many know that we are STILL under. “Emergency (COVID) Orders” … renewed by the multiple COVID victim in The White House. Yes, Bidinh RENEWED the Emergency Status this past Spring … long after the REAL threat (which never REALLY existed) and the REAL vaccines proved to be worthless. Bidinh is STILL acting supra-Constitutionally … as Dictator in Chief … and has “Deputized” the entire Deep State to act supra-Constitionally.

So my friendly amendment to your proposals, Willis? Prevent ANY renewal of Emergency Orders by The Executive without another 2/3 vote of the full Legislature (no abstentions allowed). And prevent ALL Departments, and Agencies of the Federal and State Governments from imposing EMERGENCY orders unilaterally.

John Hultquist
Reply to  Kenji
September 12, 2022 2:09 pm

Gov. Jay Inslee (WA State) announced the upcoming rescission** of all remaining COVID-19 emergency proclamations and state of emergency by Oct. 31. 

Up here in the Great Left Coast State of WA we are still working to flatten the curve — or something.

**The termination of a contract by mutual agreement or as a result of fraud or some legal defect.

I wonder if the Gov — being a lawyer and all — selected the word for a good reason, or whether he is just a dumb schist?

Ivo
September 12, 2022 11:48 am

Seen it, lived it, hated it. Will bet any sum you choose that the trend will be expanded.

Fran
September 12, 2022 11:50 am

Trudeau’s little “Emergency” last winter was a wakeup call for a lot of Canadians. The threat of freezing of bank accounts of donors to the truckers led to a serious run on banks. We withdrew as much as we could first thing next morning.

Our new Conservative leader (Pierre Poilievre elected on the first ballot with 68%) has stated that his Cabinet will exclude anyone participating in any WEF activities. Maybe there is hope if he wins the next election,

David Blenkinsop
September 12, 2022 11:55 am

Along with having some sensible approach as to what is justifiable as an emergency, there is also the point that laws made following an emergency declaration shouldn’t be *retroactive*, as in, say,

https://ablawg.ca/2020/04/06/covid-19-and-retroactive-law-making-in-the-public-health-emergency-powers-amendment-act-alberta/?amp=1

Quoting the summation of the above link,

“Retroactive lawmaking is like getting into Dr. Brown’s DeLorean and travelling back in time to change the past, and then returning to present day. The Alberta legislature has done just this by going back to March 17 when cabinet declared a public health emergency and changing the law governing the exercise of emergency powers under the Public Health Act. Measures such as this which stretch the rule of law to its breaking point must be used sparingly, clearly articulated, and thoroughly justified, if these powers are to be seen as legitimate.”

Mr.
Reply to  David Blenkinsop
September 12, 2022 2:09 pm

Equally, an “emergency” as interpreted in practical situations such as powers of extraordinary expenditures of owners’ funds by Strata Councils, requires that something calamitous HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.

In other words, expenditures can’t be made IN ANTICIPATION OF SOMETHING THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.

An excerpt from typical Strata Corporation laws –

  • Under the Standard Bylaws, even if a strata council member has not been delegated the authority to do so, he or she may spend strata corporation funds to repair or replace common property or common assets if it is immediately required to ensure safety or prevent significant loss or damage.

Mr. President, show us how your “emergency expenditures” will be required to REPAIR OR REPLACE climates in the USA and around the world.

dodgy geezer
September 12, 2022 11:57 am

Your proposals are good, but pointless.

If our legislators/oppressors were interested in logical argument and doing the right thing, then your article would make sense. But they are not – they are solely interested in acquiring more power, and thay have a cadre of complient ‘scientists’ willing to provide any ‘data’ they may require to justify any action.

It really is as bad as that.

drednicolson
Reply to  dodgy geezer
September 12, 2022 1:00 pm

No government is going to outlaw itself.

Old Man Winter
September 12, 2022 12:00 pm

Criminals don’t obey laws that are already written, so new laws
can be just as easily ignored. Since politicians & bureaucrats
behave like criminals, they’ll continue ignoring things that
get in the way of what they want to do anyway.

Gov’t crimes are prosecuted in the DC Circuit, where most of
the jury pool is quite woke. It’s almost impossible to get a
conviction even though the jury forewoman admitted the defendant
committed the crime, like in the Sussman case. Unfortunately for
Michael Flynn, his judge wouldn’t dismiss his case, even after
new evidence convinced prosecutors to withdraw the charge.

Our Constitution, despite its shortcomings, did a good enough
job to point us in the right direction. Unfortunately, people
used those flaws to advance their cause, making those flaws
harder to correct. It always goes back to the character of the
people & those we choose to represent us That’s why elections
need to be hard to steal.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/jury-forewoman-michael-sussmann-case-speaks-out

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Greg Bacon
September 12, 2022 12:04 pm

Stick to climate Eschenbach because you suck at law/politics/medicine.
.
“We’ve just seen this being done by the US President in order to give him power to do things like write the biggest check in US history to student debtors. ”
..
Congress gave him that specific authority.
..
https://www2.ed.gov/policy/gen/leg/foia/secretarys-legal-authority-for-debt-cancellation.pdf
..
Unless of course thing a global pandemic is not an “emergency.”

Greg Bacon
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
September 12, 2022 1:27 pm

 dial back on the ugliness.”
.
Practice what you preach.
..
 ….that these jerkwagons will declare….”
..
Mr. Jerkwagon

Editor
Reply to  Greg Bacon
September 12, 2022 3:35 pm

The difference is that you directly applied some insult to someone in particular in the thread while he insulted no one in particular.

Greg Bacon
Reply to  Sunsettommy
September 12, 2022 4:29 pm

Wrong Tommy, “…Legislators, the President is taking the power of the purse away….”
.
That is a pretty particular person in his “insult” is directed towards.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Greg Bacon
September 12, 2022 4:46 pm

“Not to mention Governors claiming the power to keep people in their homes, to force them to take medicines, to close down their businesses, and a host of other restrictions because of the COVID emergency.”

0 for forever.

Shoulda quit @ 0-0.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Old Man Winter
September 13, 2022 11:54 pm

Actually, the States do have powers (10th Amendment) that the Federal government lacks, especially when Congress has not enacted specific legislation allowing the Executive Branch to do something.

Editor
Reply to  Greg Bacon
September 14, 2022 3:01 pm

Again, no name was given…… which is why it isn’t personal.

Old Man Winter
Reply to  Greg Bacon
September 12, 2022 12:32 pm

“The Supreme Court has repeatedly found that President Biden has
violated the Constitution and overreached in his use of unilateral
executive authority. Biden has, arguably, the worst record of court
losses in the first two years of any recent presidential administration.”

(emphasis mine)

Nice try! The head of the Biden Crime Family will say & do anything
to claim authority. Turley has a much better track record & is a lot more trustworthy & neutral.

https://jonathanturley.org/2022/09/02/college-loan-forgiveness-plan-reveals-bidens-constitutional-cynicism/

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eyesonu
Reply to  Greg Bacon
September 12, 2022 1:04 pm

Damn Greg, Willis really hit home with you on the posting! Maybe you have an emergency with your panties twisting! If there’s anything that I can say to trigger you PLEASE let me know! LOL

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Tom in Florida
Reply to  Greg Bacon
September 12, 2022 7:03 pm

The HEROES Act of 2003 is being claimed to be the authority for the current cancellation of student loans. It is absurd to apply that Act to the fake emergency of COVID. It will eventually fail in the courts.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Tom in Florida
September 14, 2022 12:10 am

But Brandon is counting on it taking some time such that he can get the money out the door before the courts can stop him. Additionally, given the convoluted reasoning of our Judicial system it may be that no citizen has the “standing” to sue!

Mark BLR
Reply to  Greg Bacon
September 13, 2022 4:01 am

Unless of course thing a global pandemic is not an “emergency.”

Data from the Worldometers site for global COVID-19 cases and deaths.

NB : The “consensus” view is that the Case Fatality Rate for the influenza family of viruses is approximately 0.1.

I will take the completely arbitrary criterion (some posters may disagree …) that when the CFR dropped below 1, i.e. “ten times as bad as the flu”, in January COVID-19 stopped being “an emergency”.

Few people would agree with you, however, that “two to three times the flu” counts as “an emergency”.

Passing large spending laws in August or September using a “COVID-19 emergency ! ! !” excuse isn’t justified (or justifiable).

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Dave Fair
Reply to  Greg Bacon
September 13, 2022 11:49 pm

Greg, I believe the Congressional authority to forgive student loan debt was related to military emergencies and affected only service members. It is clear that the continuing COVID19 “emergency” is just a fig-leaf to see if he can get away with it. We’ll see if this is another Brandon overreach that must be slapped down by the SCOTUS.

It is amazing that Leftist members of Congress are cheering for Brandon’s usurpation of their Constitutional prerogatives.

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Steve Case
September 12, 2022 12:08 pm
Rud Istvan
September 12, 2022 12:16 pm

With COVID-19, we have just lived thru another example of Mackay’s Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds. And climate change induced renewables investments bear a strong resemblance to the South Seas bubble and the Dutch tulip mania described in his book.

Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 12, 2022 1:29 pm

Even kooky New Zealand has dropped mask and vax mandates.

MarkW
Reply to  Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
September 12, 2022 2:11 pm

Now that the elections are getting close, New York has decided to end sanctions.

Smart Rock
Reply to  Paul Hurley (aka PaulH)
September 12, 2022 4:28 pm

Yeah, but try getting on a train in Canada. Or a plane.

Travelling across the country by rail? Enjoy wearing a mask for 3 days straight.

eyesonu
September 12, 2022 12:27 pm

One more catagory needed on the scale: The real emergency is calling every lert-wing idea an emergency!

The Dark Lord
September 12, 2022 12:30 pm

first what is needed is a Rumanian christmas party … adorn a few lamposts for the upcoming holiday season and this “problem” will self correct …

Sean
September 12, 2022 12:42 pm

To declare a climate emergency, the government basically has to say it can control the weather with greenhouse gas emission reductions. I’d love to see the proof for that. Then, after sending a large part of the country’s industrial capacity to China, they have to show they can get the Chinese to buy in. As absurd as the first assertion is, the second assertion is even less likely to occur.
At the risk of the emotions of a few college students with high eco-anxiety, show them the change in CO2 emissions over the last 30+ years since Jim Hansen made his famous pitch to Congress. CO2 emissions – Global Energy Review 2021 – Analysis – IEA. Emissions have risen 70% and, even with a Pandemic, at best the world will barely be able to Flatten the curve let alone Net Zero.

fretslider
September 12, 2022 12:45 pm

“First, we need to define…”

If it’s one thing the post-modern left excel at, it’s word play.

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Dave Fair
Reply to  fretslider
September 14, 2022 12:13 am

It all depends on what the meaning of the word “is” is.

Duane
September 12, 2022 12:46 pm

Can’t speak for state and local governments, but Presidents cannot spend money without Congressional authorization, and just because Biden declared forgiveness of college debt he actually does not have the power to do that. SCOTUS is going to shut that down very quickly.

But of course, declaring emergency is just how the warmunists hope to prevail. Since nobody alive is ever going to notice or take note of a temperature increase of 1 deg C in the next three lifetimes, they are going instead with blaming all weather on climate change. As if the earth never experienced weather until 2022. No floods, no droughts, no fires, no storms, nothing – just utter nirvana until this very year. Of course no sentient being is going to be fooled by that, but that’s their plan.

Jay Willis
Reply to  Duane
September 12, 2022 1:29 pm

Yes, because it’s not a plan. If they had a plan, it would be logical and consistent. We have at least 2 popular delusions to contend with: Covid19 and climate/energy policy. They both are so stupid when you really think about it. Only a massive crowd of cretins could have dreamed up two so totally idiotic routes to world domination. The politicians are like surfers trying to convince us that they are steering the wave – they represent an endless supply of gullible idiots exceptional only in their patently unjustifiable self-belief . The elites (gates, Soros, king Charles etc.) Are grossly arrogant intellectual midgets trying to lead the world to some kind of sunlit uplands…oh Christ it’s a catastrophe alright.

September 12, 2022 1:23 pm

Be prepared for an FBI raid, Willie E.
You are obviously a MAGA man
Wanting limited government powers
And more personal freedom.
A libertarian, who may have voted for Trump in 2020
Like I did,
We can’t have that.
Not from someone living on the Left Coast.
We are living in a Marxist Revolution
Based on fear of climate change
Censorship. purges of political opponents,
and political prisoners. And we all see it.
and know it, but are often afraid to say it.

BREAKING UPDATE: Up to 50 Trump Supporters Have Homes Raided by DOJ-FBI Across the US (VIDEO) (thegatewaypundit.com)

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Simon
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 12, 2022 1:52 pm

If you really want the FBI to turn up at your door, just steal a few top secret documents and take them to your beach house. That usually does it.

Kevin kilty
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 2:14 pm

Silliest and most worn out excuse yet. You are arguing the thing that we don’t actually know, and likely is not so.

Simon
Reply to  Kevin kilty
September 12, 2022 3:04 pm

We absolutely know he took documents labelled secret(at various levels). Documents he had no more right to have than you or I. I can send you the photos of the files on his rather crass carpet of you need proof.

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ScarletMacaw
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 5:02 pm

You mean the FBI photoshopped fake photos?

Dave Fair
Reply to  ScarletMacaw
September 14, 2022 12:16 am

Did President Trump declassify those documents?

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 7:05 pm

From the same people that brought you the Russian hoax. How can anyone in their right mine still believe their crap.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Tom in Florida
September 12, 2022 7:06 pm

BTW, those photos were of cover sheets not the documents themselves, that would have been a real violation.

michael hart
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 7:36 pm

Are you talking about the documents he legally declassified but the bureaucrats refused to change the labelling on?

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 9:44 pm

Once Simon gets ahold of a good lie, he just doesn’t let go.
When he first got hold of them, he was president and had every right to them. Then he declassified them, which as president he also has every right to do.
After that, it doesn’t matter what he did with them.

OweninGA
Reply to  Simon
September 13, 2022 6:19 am

When the President of the United States removes an item from the secure facility or authorizes that removal by others, that is a declassifying act. Markings at that point are irrelevant. All classification authorities derive that authority from delegation from the President. The President retains FULL AUTHORITY to override the decisions of any delegated official.

What I have heard rumored is he had all the Crossfire Hurricane files and kept a copy of them for later use against the FBI for their abuses and the whole raid was the FBI retrieving the evidence to bury it. (He issued an order to the Department of Justice two days before he left office ordering the declassification of all such files – an order they disobeyed which should lead to all of them being terminated!)

Drake
Reply to  OweninGA
September 13, 2022 8:33 am

Or more directly tried for RICO and TREASON, a crime with no statute of limitations.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 2:16 pm

Tell me, does Trump pay rent for the space he’s taking up in your mind?

When Trump took the documents he was president. Also while president he declassified the documents. So neither taking them nor keeping them was a crime.

On the other hand Hillary had thousands of classified documents on her home server that was exposed to foreign hacking. Using a private server for government business has always been against the law.
Beyond that, she and her staff erased 10’s of thousands of e-mails that she know were being sought by the congressional investigative committees.

Once again, Simon invents crimes for those he hates, and totally ignores bigger crimes from those he agrees with.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
September 12, 2022 3:00 pm

“When Trump took the documents he was president. Also while president he declassified the documents. “
Absolute nonsense. If you didn’t live under a rock you would know every legal beagle who has been asked about this says it is just not possible and in fact is laughable for him to say he did this. He is not God. He doesn’t just wave a hand.
So neither taking them nor keeping them was a crime.”
Ohh yes it is which is why the FBI raided his property. Watch this at 2:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikOaAg1nWvY

“On the other hand Hillary had thousands of classified documents on her home server that was exposed to foreign hacking. Using a private server for government business has always been against the law.”
Yep and your team bleated about this for years. Funny how you have gone quiet now it’s Trump. But Hillary was investigated and so she should have been. So why is Trump immune from investigation? Truth is he’s not. And it will be very interesting so see what comes of this.

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MarkW
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 9:48 pm

Poor, poor Simon, once again he prefers lies to reality.
The president is in charge of setting security classifications. If the president says something is no longer classified, it isn’t.

As to to your so called legal beagles, they are a lot like your so called scientists. They only get that name because you happen to agree with them.

Trump did nothing wrong, Hillary broke the law. The fact that you are fine with this says nothing good about your judgement or morals.

Simon
Reply to  Kevin kilty
September 12, 2022 3:03 pm

If you believe that propaganda you will believe anything.
But….If Biden has committed a crime specify what it is?

Editor
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 3:37 pm

It has happened many times already, do you live under a rock?

Simon
Reply to  Sunsettommy
September 12, 2022 5:00 pm

Nope I don’t and I read both sides. As far as I am aware Biden has never been prosecuted for a crime. But come on, let’s hear what you got?

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ScarletMacaw
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 6:22 pm

The lack of the ruling Democrats prosecuting one of their own(ed) is proof of nothing.

Simon
Reply to  ScarletMacaw
September 12, 2022 6:47 pm

Umm Biden is over 70. Plenty of time for him to break the law no matter who is in power. Come on sunsettommy please unload your “many times” Biden has been prosecuted for a crime?

ScarletMacaw
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 7:57 pm

Considering the number of laws that exist, he had to have committed several crimes every day, just like everyone else.

The lack of prosecution means nothing. The ruling elite, which includes both parties and much of the permanent ruling bureaucracy, protects its own.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Simon
September 13, 2022 5:39 am

Biden is over 80!

michael hart
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 7:48 pm

That’s a large part of the problem: never been prosecuted.
“10% for the big man”

MarkW
Reply to  Sunsettommy
September 12, 2022 9:50 pm

He doesn’t live under a rock, he’s just psychologically incapable of seeing anything he doesn’t want to see.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 9:49 pm

As usual, Simon only sees what he wants to see, and will tell any lie in order to make sure his supply of free stuff isn’t threatened.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
September 12, 2022 11:14 pm

When you can’t counter what I am saying with facts (which is often)you always defer to some lame comment about nothing. What free stuff are you talking about? I don’t want or need any free stuff. You really are just a low level tyre kicker aren’t you.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
September 13, 2022 9:33 am

So far your claims have been limited to whining that everyone else is wrong and that all the smart people agree with you.

What is there to counter?

Dave Fair
Reply to  Simon
September 14, 2022 12:24 am

Taking 10% of a multi-million dollar bribe from the ChiComs. Violating his sworn oath to uphold the Constitution by openly and admittedly doing illegal “work arounds” on a number of occasions. & etc.

b.nice
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 2:51 pm

Poor Simple Simon.

I see your comments are a COMPLETE FAILURE here, too.

Empty trash talk is about the limit of your ability.

Simon
Reply to  b.nice
September 12, 2022 3:02 pm

Truth is not trash. But if you think I’m lying, please specify where I have. Happy to back any of what I have said up.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 9:51 pm

Truth is not trash, nor does it have anything to do with anything you write.

Mr.
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 5:45 pm

If you really want the FBI to turn up at your door, just steal a few top secret documents and take them to your beach house.

Then some FBI Inspector Clouseaus will turn up to give you some newly-minted Russia collusion pulp fiction pages to round out your collection.
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

Simon
Reply to  Mr.
September 12, 2022 5:56 pm

Collusion!!! Thanks for bringing that up. I see a judge threw out Trumps attempt to get Clinton on the collusion thing. You can read all about it here. OWCH!!!
https://www.axios.com/2022/09/09/judge-dismisses-trump-lawsuit-clinton-2016

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Mr.
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 6:27 pm

Yeah being appealed, but not a serious attempt to “lock her up”
(She’s waaaay too shifty for that)

Also, Trump cast the net on the whole cabal just to get them on record –

“Trump in March accused Clinton and dozens of other Democrats“.

The judge really had no legal basis to work on, as he said –
At its core, the problem with Plaintiff’s Amended Complaint is that Plaintiff is not attempting to seek redress for any legal harm,” 

and this –

“Middlebrooks said Trump exceeded the legal statute of limitations”

As with cases brought before Human Rights Commissions everywhere –
“the process is the punishment”.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
September 12, 2022 9:52 pm

It really is fascinating how Simon’s view of the law changes depending on who is being prosecuted.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
September 12, 2022 11:17 pm

“Simon’s view of the law changes depending on who is being prosecuted.”
You are a class A hypocrite. You wrote these words above…
Trump did nothing wrong, Hillary broke the law. “

Tell me again… who is it changes their view depending on the person being prosecuted?

If you, or I, or anyone breaks the law, then that person should be prosecuted. I don’t care if they are the president or a pauper. Everyone should be equal in the eyes of the law.

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Reply to  Simon
September 13, 2022 1:48 am

Some are more equal 😀

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MarkW
Reply to  Simon
September 13, 2022 9:35 am

I don’t know if you are as dumb as your posts make you sound. Perhaps that’s why you need to rely on free stuff.

As I and many others have pointed out, Trump broke no laws.
As I and many others have pointed out, Hillary broke many laws.

That is the core difference between the two cases. The fact that you can’t live without hating Trump, is your problem, not mine.

Simon
Reply to  MarkW
September 13, 2022 1:10 pm

Clinton was investigated so what’s your problem with getting to the bottom of the stealing public records thing with Trump?
Even if they were declassified(and they weren’t) it is still an offence to have taken public records. Which is why the National Archives came after him. They asked him nicely. He refused. Then they asked again and he handed over some getting his lawyers to sign a document saying that was all of them. Then hello, we find he still has a stack in a safe at his beach house. That is not the actions of a man who declassified anything. It is the actions of a man who thinks he is above the law.

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Mr.
Reply to  Simon
September 13, 2022 3:33 pm

Well Simon, if Trump is just given the same judicial outcome of “nothing to see here” as Hilary received, that would be completely fair, consistent and equitable, wouldn’t it?

What’s not to like with that outcome?

Simon
Reply to  Mr.
September 13, 2022 10:17 pm

Except he might just be guilty. Just an idea…

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
September 14, 2022 2:20 pm

So far there isn’t a shred of evidence that he has broken any law. But what the heck, he’s evil so he must be guilty.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
September 14, 2022 2:19 pm

Poor Simon, when caught in one lie, he immediately changes the subject.

Hillary was investigated, and extensive evidence found that she had broken the law.

Trump stole documents that he had every right to possess?

They were de-classified, and making copies is not “taking” public records.

He turned over many boxes of documents and invited them over to check the rest.

What is it with you and your absolute inability to actually tell the truth about anything?

Reply to  Simon
September 13, 2022 5:41 am

All documents were declassified by Trump and they were hard copies not the original electronic files. No raid was necessary. 15 boxes were already returned and the others were locked up and guarded by Secret Service personnel. They were safe. You are obviously not interested in what Hillary Clinton did with her in-house server containing CURRENT classified documents. That makes you a hypocrite.

Simon
Reply to  Richard Greene
September 13, 2022 1:08 pm

Can you not read. I wrote. “If you, or I, or anyone breaks the law, then that person should be prosecuted. I don’t care if they are the president or a pauper. Everyone should be equal in the eyes of the law.”
That includes Clinton. By the way just the fact they have conceded this special master thing shows they do not treat Trump like they do other mere mortals.
And no Trump did no declassify anything (except his mind). There is no paper trail and all that worked with him in the WH say he did no such thing. It’s a Trump lie. Come on, are you saying you can’t spot a Trump porky now?
And you got a link that shows these highly classified docs were being protected by the secret service, coz that’s the first I’ve heard.

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Dave Fair
Reply to  Simon
September 14, 2022 12:18 am

But if you stuff them down your pants in a secured repository and take them home nothing happens if you are a Democrat operative.

Simon
Reply to  Dave Fair
September 14, 2022 12:37 pm

Well explain? Ive never heard this one.

MarkW
Reply to  Simon
September 14, 2022 2:22 pm

Why am I not surprised?

Clinton advisor Sandy Berger was caught stuffing classified documents into his underpants and trying to sneak them out of the national archives. His only punishment was to lose his security clearance.

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Dave Fair
Reply to  Simon
September 14, 2022 4:19 pm

Between September 2 and October 2, 2003, Sandy Berger, a Democrat operative and former National Security advisor to President Clinton stuffed classified documents down his pants, in his socks and in briefcases. They were stolen from a secure area in the National Archives.

Berger subsequently destroyed some of the documents by cutting them up with scissors. He also illegally removed handwritten notes from the secure area. When confronted he lied about his actions.

The maximum penalty for the crime to which he was allowed to plead is 1 year in prison and a $100,000 fine. He got a $10,000 fine, 2 years probation, community service and lost his security clearance for 3 years. Separately, he was disbarred in Washington DC.

Following this sad tale, Berger was rehabilitated (although never really called out) in Democrat circles and the Democrat Party. He became a Leftist media darling, appearing on numerous news shows as a national security expert.

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Simon
Reply to  Dave Fair
September 15, 2022 12:32 pm

Interesting. But I see he lot his job and was fined. Didn’t work in the Whitehouse again. If Trump never serves in the Whitehouse again and gets a 10k fine, I’d be happy with that.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Simon
September 15, 2022 9:37 pm

FU2

Simon
Reply to  Dave Fair
September 15, 2022 12:33 pm

Oh and I see he got 100 hors community service. Now that I’d like to see Trump do.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Simon
September 15, 2022 9:37 pm

FJB

Tom.1
September 12, 2022 1:51 pm

Willis: I disagree that the dictionary definition is sufficient because it is still highly subjective. I would limit executive action authority to natural disasters meeting some objective criteria (area affected, population affected, etc.), or an act of war (e.g., 9/11). All executive actions of an emergency nature should require legislative authority. In the case of natural disaster or an act of war, Congress should be required to authorize the action within five days of the declaration of an emergency. Every other type of emergency should require legislative authority before any action is taken of any money is spent. I don’t think that is unreasonable. However, I have little doubt the defenestration of federalism will continue apace.

Gunga Din
September 12, 2022 1:53 pm

The only “Emergency” I can think of that allows Executive Orders that shouldn’t have an “expiration date” would be the Nuclear Football.
Once Congress can meet and act, there is no excuse for the Executive Branch to have the authority of the Legislative Branch.
(Though, in Brandon’s case, I hope they have 2 or 3 Easter Bunnies between him and it to remind him that his ice cream melting is NOT an emergency.)

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Gunga Din
Reply to  Gunga Din
September 12, 2022 2:05 pm

I’ll add that there is nothing in The Constitution that would allow The Legislative Branch to delegate their responsibility to the Executive Branch via bureaucratic regulations that are, in effect, Laws.

TonyG
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
September 13, 2022 8:33 am

“Congress can’t say”

Hasn’t stopped them, though.

Duker
Reply to  Gunga Din
September 12, 2022 3:31 pm

The courts dont agree with you. The regulations are part of the Presidents executive powers – as given by the Acts of Congress that are passed.
Sure some regulations are only vaguely linked to the principal act but the majority arent

Gunga Din
Reply to  Duker
September 13, 2022 6:35 am

Then, at times, our Judicial Branch has also drifted from The Constitution.

BrianB
September 12, 2022 1:55 pm

Not to be a pessimist, but the reason we’re suffering under abusive emergency declarations is because our political system is already so dysfunctional, and the state so powerful, that the process by which these abuses might be reigned in, and the people with the will to reign them in are no longer functional or simply don’t exist.
I am highly skeptical there is a peaceful political path back from the wilderness, not least because those who have tunneled their way to power have no intention of peacefully relinquishing the power they have seized.
There is a path back but I don’t believe it will be allowed by those who seek to rule us to be particularly peaceful. That’s the choice we leave ourselves when we allow authoritarians and autocrats to overtake our institutions and eventually our culture.

Rud Istvan
Reply to  BrianB
September 12, 2022 2:46 pm

My opinion, too pessimistic. I have 4 reasons why more optimistic:

  1. The 2020 election was stolen. That is provable four different ways, one of which being how hard the perps are gaslighting otherwise.
  2. The sequelae of the stolen election are a series of undeniable disasters: food inflation, energy prices, open borders, Afghan withdrawal fiasco, recession—all of which should have major 2022 electoral consequences.
  3. The ‘emergency’ COVID-19 measures have had multiple disastrous consequences on top of the fact that they did not work. Impaired children education, small business bankruptcies, excess deaths… And we can now compare and contrast differing results in ‘emergency’ resistant states like FL to results in compliant states like CA or NY.
  4. Deep State continues to illegally go after PDJT via unlawful means, further exposing their corruption. Most recently, the MaL raid and subsequent court proceedings presently playing out.
Mike Dubrasich
Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 12, 2022 8:55 pm

Pessimist vs. optimist. I don’t have a crystal ball, but I suspect tweaking definitions won’t happen and wouldn’t have any effect anyway. Our crisis with runaway authoritarianism is much deeper than lexicography — and voters, no matter the election outcome, are powerless to abate it. Count me in the pessimist camp.

Reply to  Rud Istvan
September 13, 2022 5:37 am

You seem to forget the 2020 lockdowns and scaremongering by Birx and Fauci was under President Trump BEFORE the election was stolen ! And it was Trump who financed a reckless nine month vaccine development process, which he actually TAKES CREDIT FOR.

Rhys Jaggar
September 12, 2022 2:31 pm

Maybe in the USA they were more ruthless in enforcing ‘staying at home’, but I took precisely zero notice of UK Government suggestions not to venture out in spring 2020, I walked 5-8 miles each and every day during what was a beautifully sunny April. My sunshine-stimulated vitamin D levels developed beautifully and I had zero illness of any note during the entire shambolic fiasco.

5 of those 8 miles each day were walking to an allotment to grow healthy organic fresh vegetables. I didn’t intentionally go near anyone, but I made no detours either. I just did what I would do under normal circumstances.

I certainly contradicted government suggestions by telling every parent I came across to try and ensure that their kids were out of doors as much as possible, taking as much exercise as possible. Easier for the middle classes with back gardens of course.

I made a great effort not to agree per se with anything Bill Gates had to say about healthcare, climate or food production. I am strongly opposed to his vaccine positions, his views on climatology and his farcical nonsense about making food in factories. If he wants to go live on Mars and make food in labs from primary chemicals, be my guest, fly away and don’t come back. But we’ve lived on this planet for millennia and our guts are absolutely not adapted to eating insects.

It’s not just legislators that are to blame, Mr Eschenbach. It’s the uncontrollable billionaires who are the prime malignancy that needs lancing.

I’d be interested to see your views on what controls you think need to be placed on Mssrs Gates, Zuckerberg, Soros etc etc based on their malignant corruption of a whole raft of institutions initially designed for public benefit, now transformed into billionaire playthings.

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar
September 13, 2022 5:45 pm

Maybe in the USA they were more ruthless in enforcing ‘staying at home’, but I took precisely zero notice of UK Government suggestions not to venture out in spring 2020″

In the US it was up to each state as to whether to lock down at all. I live in northwest Washington State, and we were supposedly locked down, but I was out doing deliveries 5 days a week, and no one ever asked me why I was out. They did go after some restaurants for not shutting down. As you can imagine, they were restaurants run by conservatives.

TonyG
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar
September 14, 2022 7:21 am

Maybe in the USA they were more ruthless in enforcing ‘staying at home’

Depending on the state. In CA they famously arrested a lone surfer for surfing on an empty beach. Several gyms were run out of business as well – not in CA, don’t remember where but you can guess how those states lean politically.

Frank from NoVA
September 12, 2022 3:10 pm

‘So … how can we fix this badly broken system?’

Having perused WE’s and other’s suggestions to this point, am surprised that no one brought up that all this tyranny is financed by the Federal Reserve (the Fed) and it’s member banks. Specifically, the former buys the government’s debt and in the process creates reserves upon which its members can create money to purchase even more debt. So unlike the Roman emperors of antiquity, our government not only devalues our money over time, but also requires us to eventually pay back the borrowed principal and interest through higher taxes and/or further monetary debasement. There’s a reason big government began with progressivism and their passage of the Federal Reserve Act.

Andy Espersen
September 12, 2022 3:32 pm

Ha – here is a new one : A US President whose duty is to defend the constitution now breaking it himself!!!

Where I live we have an English restricted monarchy electoral system with elected legislature and an appointed Governor General – whose responsibility is to dismiss the government if the government ever acts unconstitutionally.

I suggest USA apply to join us in the British Commonwealth of Nations – accept Charles III as your political boss – and appoint a trustworthy US citizen as Government General with the powers to sack your president if he/she ever breaks the US Constitution.

Tom in Florida
Reply to  Andy Espersen
September 12, 2022 7:11 pm

Anyone with that power is not trustworthy.

Dave Fair
Reply to  Andy Espersen
September 14, 2022 12:33 am

I believe the Constitution prohibits a Monarchy.

Olen
September 12, 2022 4:02 pm

Emergency powers that limit or abolish freedom are never justified. Governors have enough at their disposal without interfering with personal freedom. Personal freedoms are limited when a person has committed and been convicted of a crime worthy of jail time.

If a governor cannot work with what he has he should resign or be removed. Ben Franklin stated those who would give up freedom for safety deserve neither. Adolph Hitler gained dictatorial power by telling the legislator he could only restore order with the powers granted in the Enabling Act. Hitler promised he would use restraint. The fact the Nazi party caused the problem was not considered but the threat to the legislators was there. The rest is history.

fah
September 12, 2022 4:16 pm

There is another side to the use (or non-use) of emergency declarations, particularly in totalitarian governments. While they will enthusiastically declare emergencies against “threats to the state/”democracy”/soul of the nation, they have a bad record with actual emergencies. I just watched (at the behest of my son) the HBO mini-series Chernobyl. While it is just a film, the reaction of the apparatchiks to the disaster rings true to my recollection of Soviet state thought. The first imperative was to protect the butts of apparatchiks from possibility of blame, to avoid being the bearer of bad news, to avoid losing face among nations, to expect heroic sacrifices from common people, and to treat casualties as if they were to blame for their predicaments. If the disaster does not serve The Party’s purposes it is ignored.

September 12, 2022 4:29 pm

In reality, the Covid-19 “Emergency” was not a real emergency – it was a deliberate international scam and all the quality data supports this conclusion. This totalitarian scam was already in progress with Climate as the primary driver, and then along came Covid-19, a relatively mild flu that only killed the very elderly and infirm, and Covid was enlisted as a second front for the wolves to stampede the sheep.
 
NO TOTAL DEATH BUMP MEANS NO REAL PANDEMIC – AN ILLNESS YES, BUT CERTAINLY NOT A PANDEMIC – IN A REAL PANDEMIC A LOT OF PEOPLE DIE AND THEY DID NOT.
 
In Alberta and Canada there was no “total death bump” (no increase in the trend vs previous years) in the 12 months ending 1July2020 – the end of the first “flu season” of Covid-19. NONE! We did early treatment, didn’t even do sensible treatments like Ivermectin and Vitamin D.
 
The Covid-19 death bump that occurred in the USA was caused by incompetent treatment protocols, primarily “stay home until you’re almost dead, then we’ll zap you with remdesivir, destroy your liver and kidneys, and put you on a ventilator to finish you off, and your
hospital will get a bonus!”.
 
In Alberta in 2020 the average age of death attributed to Covid-19 in 2020 was 82 – think about what all that means – the lockdowns and vaccines were never justified. We were systematically misled by our health authorities and governments.

See my paper CorrectPredictions.ca for a plot of the six-year, no-bump, death trend in
Alberta and Canada to 1July2020.
 
Covid-19 was a WHO scam. I called it correctly in a note published on 21Mar2020, ~6 days into the needless, destructive lockdown. Covid-19 was an illness that was only fatal to the very elderly and infirm, but not even close to a real epidemic. Six months later on 4Oct2020, world experts wrote the same conclusion in their Great Barrington Declaration.
 
I wrote our Alberta & Canadian politicians and North American media on 8Jan2021 to NOT release the Covid-19 “vaccines”. These so-called “vaccines” are toxic – some informed parties call them “bio-weapons”.
 
In Alberta now, the leading cause of death is listed as “unknown”. It’s actually the toxic Covid-19 vaxxes. Deaths jumped in 2021 after the Covid-19 vaxxes were deployed – most of
the “Covid” deaths , especially of people under ~75 , were caused by the vaxxes, not the virus.
 
GERMAN REPORT REVEALS 1 IN 25 INSURED INDIVIDUALS TREATED FOR COVID SHOT REACTIONS – THE VACCINE REACTION
https://thevaccinereaction.org/2022/08/german-report-reveals-1-in-25-insured-individuals-treated-for-covid-shot-reactions/
 
Recent History of this Decades-Old Climate Scam (Pre-Covid):

THE LIBERALS’ COVERT GREEN PLAN FOR CANADA – POVERTY AND DICTATORSHIP October 1, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/10/01/the-liberals-covert-green-plan-for-canada-poverty-and-dictatorship/
“Unregulated consumerism was unsustainable and people would have to learn to make do with less. The government would have to have more control over people to enforce their austerity and the wealth of developed nations would have to be redistributed to help undeveloped nations.”
 
WHAT THE GREEN NEW DEAL IS REALLY ABOUT — AND IT’S NOT THE CLIMATE July 19, 2019
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2019/07/20/what-the-green-new-deal-is-really-about-and-its-not-the-climate/
“The interesting thing about the Green New Deal, is it wasn’t originally a climate thing at all. Do you guys think of it as a climate thing? Because we really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing,” – Democratic New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti.

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Reply to  Allan MacRae
September 13, 2022 5:32 am

There was a Covid pandemic in 2020 in the US
I can’t speak for Alberta, Canada
You are deluded and providing disinformation

US excess deaths spiked in April 2020 and are still high
US all-cause mortality did not jump in 2021
It stayed about the same as in 2020.
The vaccines did not help
Excess deaths remain high in 2022
Obviously not caused by Omicron which is a common cold wih a very low infection fatality rate. The vaccine’s long term adverse side effects are one reason, along with damage caused by Covid infections in 2021.
The spike proteins are damaging for anyone with a weak immune system whether they are from a natural infection or created by a vaccine.

Of course many 2020 deaths were in nursing homes of people already in bad shape. Their deaths should have been blamed on heart disease, cancer, etc — whatever sent them to the nursing home. But with a positive PCR test or just Covid like respiratory symptoms, they became Covid deaths.

The deaths WITH Covid statistic sounds like it would be inaccurate, but in 2020 that statistic explained the excess deaths as well as a deaths FROM Covid statistic would have.

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Reply to  Richard Greene
September 14, 2022 2:03 am

AHS rescinds requirement for employees to have COVID-19 vaccine | Calgary Sun

FIFTH LARGEST LIFE INSURANCE COMPANY IN US PAID OUT 163% MORE FOR DEATHS OF WORKING PEOPLE AGES 18-64 IN 2021 AFTER COVID-19 VACCINE MANDATES June 17, 2022
Company cites “non-pandemic-related morbidity” and “unusual claims adjustments” in explanation of losses from group life insurance business
https://crossroadsreport.substack.com/p/breaking-fifth-largest-life-insurance
Five months after breaking the story of the CEO of One America insurance company saying deaths among working people ages 18-64 were up 40% in the third quarter of 2021, I can report that a much larger life insurance company, Lincoln National, reported a 163% increase in death benefits paid out under its group life insurance policies in 2021…
The reports show a more extreme situation than the 40% increase in deaths in the third quarter of 2021 that was cited in late December by One America CEO Scott Davison — an increase that he said was industry-wide and that he described at the time as “unheard of” and “huge, huge numbers” and the highest death rates that have ever been seen in the history of the life insurance business.
The annual statements for Lincoln National Life Insurance Company show that the company paid out in death benefits under group life insurance policies a little over $500 million in 2019, about $548 million in 2020, and a stunning $1.4 billion in 2021.

DEPOPULATION: “500,000 AMERICANS HAVE DIED AFTER THE VACCINATION” (BRANDNEWTUBE.COM) Dr Russell Blaylock
https://brandnewtube.com/watch/depopulation-quot-500-000-americans-have-died-after-the-vaccination-quot_5cUcjKp6qiXd3Vr.html
And that is just the first wave of Covid-19 vaccine deaths – there will be many more to follow.
In Canada, that is ~50,000 deaths directly caused by Trudeau’s toxic “vaccines”, with many more to follow.

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Reply to  Richard Greene
September 14, 2022 2:12 am

Richard Green – You mix in a few truths with your lies to make them more credible.
It appears you are the one spreading misinformation, and deliberately so.

VACCINE SAFETY MONITORING
By Zachary Stieber September 13, 2022 

The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has acknowledged publicly for the first time that the agency gave false information about its COVID-19 vaccine safety monitoring.
Dr. Rochelle Walensky, the agency’s director, said in a letter made public on Sept. 12 that the CDC did not analyze certain types of adverse event reports at all in 2021, despite the agency previously saying it started in February 2021.

Reply to  Allan MacRae
September 14, 2022 1:54 am

US Life Expectancy Falls Again in ‘Historic’ Decline
Analysis by Dr. Joseph Mercola September 14, 2022

 

STORY AT-A-GLANCE
·   According to the latest statistics, life expectancy in the United States dropped precipitously in 2020 and 2021. In 2019, the average life span of Americans of all ethnicities was nearly 79 years. By the end of 2021, life expectancy had dropped to 76 — a loss of nearly three years
·   Even small declines in life expectancy of a tenth or two-tenths of a year mean that on a population level, a lot more people are dying prematurely than they really should be
·   Native Americans and Alaska Natives have the highest rate of diabetes out of any ethnic groups — 1 in 7 — and obesity is also common. Both of these conditions have been identified as comorbidities that make you more susceptible to serious COVID-19 infection
·   Aside from COVID, causes of death listed as contributors to this loss of life expectancy include accidental deaths, drug overdoses, heart disease, chronic liver disease and cirrhosis. However, excess deaths from all causes are wildly elevated, across age groups
·   That life expectancy has dropped by three years since the start of the pandemic can be explained by the simple fact that the primary “remedy” for COVID — the experimental mRNA COVID jabs — are the most lethal drugs in medical history

September 12, 2022 5:02 pm

After two mild years, Alberta could face severe flu season | Calgary Herald
 
I emailed the following to the Alberta government and other politicians and media on 8January2021. My warning was in sufficient time to stop the carnage!

The Covid-19 vaccine developments were rushed and are not proven safe or effective and should NOT be taken, especially by the low-risk population – those under-65 or recovered from Covid-19. The two experimental Covid-19 vaccines that contain mRNA (Pfizer and Moderna) are especially risky – due to unknown future side-effects, the risk-to-reward is far too high for the low-risk group.” 

I could not have been more clear – and I only publish when I am certain. See CorrectPredictions.ca
 
These dead physicians are a small part of the total – there are much greater numbers of dead and vaccine-injured citizens from all careers, and that total is growing every day and will accelerate as more people take more toxic Covid-19 “vaccines”. The numbers of vaccine-caused dead and injured will exceed those lost in our foreign wars – our corrupt governments and health authorities cannot hide this truth and perpetuate this disaster any longer.
Regards, Allan MacRae, Calgary

32 YOUNG CANADIAN DOCTORS “DIED SUDDENLY” IN THE PAST 16 MONTHS WHILE FULLY COVID-19 VACCINATED!
Dr. William Makis MD
https://gettr.com/user/makismd

Bob
September 12, 2022 6:22 pm

Of course Willis you are right. I get so frustrated when I hear people saying covid caused this or covid caused that. Covid didn’t cause a damn thing, covid makes you sick, some real sick, some not so sick and some may die. It is the out of control government that has done all the damage and I curse them for it. They took a healthy economy and flushed it down the toilet, it will take brave and talented leaders to right the wrongs they have committed. I curse those rotten polecats.

John
September 12, 2022 9:51 pm

You should add to your charter
Any leader or bureaucrat breaking his charter is immediately guilty of treason and hung from the nearest tree until dead and any mate pulling his leg to hasten death is also hung until dead

this should keep the bureaucrats at bay and stop bad decision
lets start with the governor of California

every body must buy EVs but Nobody can charge them because I said so

and anybody cheating (German idea) will be fined

Editor
September 12, 2022 10:28 pm

Sure, but we know it’s coming anyway. The pandemic has shown them there are no limits to what they can do to us.

Hivemind
September 13, 2022 1:00 am

Agree 100% – but we all know that self-interest and outright hunger for power will prevent it from happening.

TonyG
September 13, 2022 7:49 am

Problem is that in many cases the legislators who you’re asking to fix it are the very ones who caused it in the first place (by passing the laws governing emergency declarations), and those who are not directly responsible don’t have the will or spine to fight it.

September 13, 2022 8:29 am

Willis agree with everything you said

Myself I would like to see 4 things done with any regular legislation

1) all laws must have a sunset clause and be re-affirmed by vote at most every 10 years, no law can be re-affirmed in an ad hock vote.
2) all laws must have metrics to be tested against for effectiveness
3) all laws must be clear concise and understandable by a layman
4) all laws must address only one matter at hand
5) all laws should be no more then 10 pages in length
6) congress should not be allowed to cede any of its duties or responsibilities to the executive branch

Reply to  bob boder
September 13, 2022 8:29 am

sorry thats 6 not 4, got a little crazy there

Doonman
September 13, 2022 11:09 am

As I age into the septuagenarian world, the only emergencies I’ve encountered in daily life so far is whether I will make it to the restroom and get my pants down in time. This is not to say that there cannot be other emergencies that have not occurred yet. But I have yet to encounter any politician that is willing to declare such an emergency or offer solutions. Calling 911 does not help.

rd50
Reply to  Doonman
September 13, 2022 9:04 pm

Safe here but octonagenerian! A little older than you! If you find a solution, let me know.

September 14, 2022 12:26 pm

In any case, we need clear legislation at both the State and Federal level specifying things like:
• What constitutes an emergency.

I have to laugh at the idea that you could define an emergency

define a hill.

a usually rounded natural elevation of land lower than a mountain 

how round?
how much lower
define mountain

an elevated portion of the Earth’s crust, generally with steep sides that show significant exposed bedrock

how steep
how significant
what bedrock?

or define cup mug and glass

https://skilja.com/classification-and-context/

early in my linguistics career. first class actually

i was exposed to this piece which makes me laugh at every request for

definition

Labov, W. (1973). The Boundaries of Words and their Meanings.

requests for definitions are feigned claims of ignorance

emergency is an english word.

we all understand what it means. but for

in generic terms it is a situation where the outcomes are so dire that we may wish to forstall our normal modes of decision making.

Reply to  Steven M Mosher
September 15, 2022 1:48 pm

not that nothing can be defined. but rather

  1. we already understand the meaning. its english
  2. your definition will never be clearer than our ordinary understanding. never.
  3. if your definition excludes a known emergency, your definition is wrong
  4. i say definition is hard, not impossible
  5. definition is best left to professionals.
  6. the test of a definition is whether it fits the ordinary understanding, so it cant

be better than the ordinary understanding

  1. many disciples use definitions IFF the ordinary understanding has conflicts
  2. you need to show the conflict
  3. asking for definitions is a 5th grade level tactic. unless you have a definition or unless you can demonstrate the ordinary understanding is in conflict.

you didnt do the basic work alice. which would include

a. talking about the existing law around emergencies
b. discussing the various kinds of emergencies
c. discussing the history.
d. citing examples of emergencies that prove your point and that count against your point

e. researching the existing reports on emergency powers in the usa.

but your spelling and grammar were great as always.

C-/D+

September 15, 2022 1:28 pm

this is the kind of advice i would give to freshmen

before you rail about emergencies. look at examples.

data is good

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_emergencies_in_the_United_States

there are military emergencies, trade, sanctions, economic, public health

break it down alice!!! you cant make a case against all emergencies

Declaring a National Emergency (Proclamation 3972)[18] – declaration in response to the 1970 United States Postal Service strike. The third of four emergencies cited by Senate Report 93-549 as never having been terminated.[9]

to make a case against all emergies will require a stupid argument like “define emergency”

Blocking Iranian Government Property[20] (Executive Order 12170)[20] – ordered the freezing of Iranian assets as part of the U.S. response during the Iran hostage crisis[4]

Further Prohibitions on Transactions with Iran (Executive Order 12211) – prohibitions revoked on January 19, 1981, but national emergency neither terminated nor continued[21]

September 15, 2022 1:35 pm

since i spent years correcting poot alices freshman screeds.

let me give the kind of advice i would give alice or bobby

ALICE!!
why dont you compare emergencies before and after 1976

national emergency is a situation in which a government is empowered to perform actions not normally permitted. The 1976 National Emergencies Act implemented various legal requirements regarding emergencies declared by the President of the United States.[1][2]
As of April 2022, 79 emergencies have been declared;[3] 37 have expired and another 42 are currently in effect, each having been renewed annually by the president.[4][5][6]

before you play junior senator making your own law

look at what the law is

before you crown yourself king solomon

read something

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Report_of_the_Special_Committee_on_the_Termination_of_the_National_Emergency

Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
September 17, 2022 8:51 am

theres more, especially since trump try to use emergency powers to build the wall

you see ALICE.

you get a far more interesting paper when you look at actualy facts,
than when you stomp your foot and demand defintions

you know what an emergency is. dont play stupid

https://youtu.be/FUtT9O3iyw0

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